Papinho & Royce's PES Tactics.

[RoyceDa59]

Quote: Originally Posted by kilay

Thank you for the Klashman tutorial, good to know... I did not know about whoscored "philosophy", so what source to understand pressing behaviors?

I feel like there is numerous of ways to tell but one of the good examples is Tackles to foul ratio with teams. Barca can be a special case because if you look at there stats they are much lower compared to most teams and that is because they usually have ALOT more possession than other teams.

[kilay]

Take a look

I think now is right, my mistake about Manè too

Quote: Originally Posted by RoyceDa59

I feel like there is numerous of ways to tell but one of the good examples is Tackles to foul ratio with teams. Barca can be a special case because if you look at there stats they are much lower compared to most teams and that is because they usually have ALOT more possession than other teams.

and where i can find this parameter? on whoscored?

[papinho81]

Quote: Originally Posted by kilay

Thank you for the Klashman tutorial, good to know... I did not know about whoscored "philosophy", so what source to understand pressing behaviors?

That's one of the trickiest to get with may be the defending zone (middle vs. center).



You can use the site FourFourTwo to have a look at teams defensive dashboards: (ie Bay Lev vs Liepzig)

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone...wrapper-anchor

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone...wrapper-anchor



For bigger teams, it is relatively easy to find very complete tactical analyses. Here are some example I used for Serie A.

https://runningtheshowblog.wordpress...lsating-derby/

http://www.blackwhitereadallover.com...ampions-league

https://blog.wyscout.com/ivan-jurics...and-formation/

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2016/10/...-and-3-points/




Otherwise, videos. Anything you can find, highlights, past full matches.

[papinho81]

Quote: Originally Posted by kilay

Take a look I think now is right, my mistake about Manè too

Sorry, my english is average to say the least... For the OUT possession formation I meant moving upper pitch Wijnaldum and Lallana above the half line (closer to the opponent GK). The lower you put them, the further away they are to press in the opponent half.

[kilay]

Now ?


Thnk you for all those source

[papinho81]

Quote: Originally Posted by kilay

Now ? Thnk you for all those source

Yep! Looking better! May be the two CMF are slightly to high now lol. Also I would move Hendersen (CDM) slighlty lower and/or the defense upper to close the gap in between the defense and the midfield.

I do the peaky guy, but after all man, it is your tactics. If you find they do work well when you test them, then it is all good!

[kilay]

This is what you was talking about ?
Soemething like that
for Liverpool 10,5 / 0,193 = 54%
for Tottenham 13,7 / 0,168 = 81%
but leverkusen is 13,9 / 0,209 = 66,5%


then the Tottenham is more aggressive?








here I see that the number of interception per game of Leverkusen are the double of tottenham. What should I think?


Here another article about Liverpool

http://www.foarsite.com/2016/10/tact...fensive-block/

[dmendenhall_9]

Been playing some Serie A using the tactics from Papinho. Plays really great, here is the last game I played. Was so much fun.