2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

[ksig24]

I am going to start working on the top prospects right now.

I am stingy when it comes to A potential players and feel that A ratings should be dedicated to players with All-Star potential. I, on the other hand also believe that players with unlimited ceilings should also be considered A potential, but wont rate them accordingly.

I am going to take a look and see what we have and I will report back. As of now there are 26 positional A rated players and 13 pitchers.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

This will be interesting.

For perspective, I had 29 position players in the A range and 27 pitchers in the A range, so that means based on a 26/13 split, C.J. Cron, Austin Hedges, and Marcel Osuna get left out (and even Rymer Liriano if we include him). As for pitchers, only Dylan Bundy, Gerrit Cole, Shelby Miller, Trevor Bauer, Archie Bradley, Matt Harvey, Tyler Skaggs, Martin Perez, Jameson Taillon, Taijuan Walker, James Paxton, Manny Banuelos, and Yu Darvish would get the nod. Danny Hultzen, Carlos Martinez, A.J. Cole, and Jarred Cosart would be among those left out.

[ksig24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

I actually found 30 A rated positional players out of the box and 14 pitchers.

[ilstu24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

For what its worth, heres my list of A's.

Bryce Harper
Jurickson Profar
Manny Machado
Anthony Rendon
Dylan Bundy
Trevor Bauer
Gerrit Cole
Shelby Miller
Jameson Taillon
Devin Mesoraco
Tyler Skaggs
Taijuan Walker
Danny Hultzen
Miguel Sano
Bubba Starling
Carlos Martinez
Martin Perez
Archie Bradley
Travis d' Arnaud
Wil Myers
Gary Brown
Brett Jackson
Oscar Taveras
Rymer Liriano
Christian Yelich
Francisco Lindor
Nolan Arenado
Jake Marisnick
Anthony Gose
Matt Harvey
Zack Wheeler
Yu Darvish
Yoenis Cespedes
Javier Baez
Manny Banuelos
Xander Bogaerts
A.J. Cole
Will Middlebrooks
Jorge Soler
Michael Choice
Trevor May
Marcell Ozuna
Josh Bell


Real Close
Billy Hamilton
Jonathan Singleton
Mike Montgomery
Jarrod Cosart
Starling Marte
Sonny Gray

[ilstu24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

43 players. Out of those, 16 pitchers.

[xxbigjerm13xx]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

Sonny Gray just made the A list... but yet just missed it at the same time.

[ilstu24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

Sonny Gray just made the A list... but yet just missed it at the same time.

Fixed it. Meant Trevor May.

[ksig24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

Got a pretty good portion done tonight with the A rated guys.

Harper
Profar
Brett Jackson
Starling
Myers
Soler
Cespedes
Rendon
Lindor
Machado
Castellanos
Gary Brown
Yelich
d'Arnaud
Singleton (due to the fact that he is coming to the AL)
Arenado
Sano
Wheeler
Bauer
Bundy
Archie Bradley
Martin Perez
Hultzen
Walker
Montgomery
Carlos Martinez
Cole
Taillon
Skaggs
Banuelos
Shelby Miller
Darvish


All I got now. I need to catch some zzzzzz's

[BatsareBugs]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

Hmm... to avoid redundancy on my two teams, whoever I see created here I will just leave a place holder, maybe just the players initial and have Knight or whoever import those players.

So far I have three overlapping prospects, all with the Diamondbacks:

Trevor Bauer
Archie Bradley
Tyler Skaggs

Coincidentally they are the only A's I have for the Diamondbacks, so it works out fine.

[ksig24]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

Maybe we should have everyone who is working on a team just do the whole team and then I will rate the prospects accordingly and ARoid will do the faces. Seems less redundant to me.

[adamj2281]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

Yeah, I have an A prospect on the stock Braves Roster, that I'll probably just move to the Free Agents for roster making, as the Braves only have B and below now that all of their A prospects are in the SCEA roster.

[juicer420]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

Maybe we should have everyone who is working on a team just do the whole team and then I will rate the prospects accordingly and ARoid will do the faces. Seems less redundant to me.

Yea, sorry Ksig, I was a little confused of the process. At first I thought you guys were making them and then I thought we were making them to send to ARoid for faces and then to you to touch up ratings and stuff.

The roster I posted for ARoid to grab had Brown, Cespedes, Choice, Cole, and Panik. All of them A's...so I'm guessing Cole and Panik needed to be B's instead.

Apologies, if you need me to resend a B version or anything else, let me know.

I'm working on both the Giants and A's....so let me know what you need from me for these teams.

Juice

[beardawnwood]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

Mayo and Law are as good as it gets when it comes to prospect scouting. I'd link Law's list, but you need espn insider to view it. I hope this can help you guys out with any prospect questions. Good luck and thank you for all of your hard work.

You can find Jonathan Mayo's list by googling Mayo prospect watch list 2012

[Jason_19]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

I'd link Law's list, but you need espn insider to view it.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/b...st-2012-a.html

The Guidelines

• The rankings are limited to players who still have rookie eligibility; that means they have yet to exceed 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the majors and have not yet spent 45 days on the active roster of a major league club, excluding call-ups during the roster expansion period after Sept. 1.

• Only players who have signed professional contracts are eligible.

• I do not consider players with experience in Nippon Professional Baseball "prospects" for the purposes of this exercise, which means no Yu Darvish.

• When ranking players, I consider scouting reports on players -- usually my own, supplementing with conversations with other scouts and front-office executives as needed -- as well as performance, adjusted for age and context. I've made one adjustment in my ranking philosophy in recent years, favoring higher-upside prospects over lower-ceiling prospects who are closer to the majors. This better reflects how these players are valued now by front offices and scouting departments, and gives me a chance to deliver more information on prospects whose names or scouting reports might be new to you.

• I use the 20-80 grading scale in these comments to avoid saying "average" and "above average" thousands of times across the 100 player comments. On that scale, a grade of 50 equals major league average, 55 is above average, 60 is plus, 45 is fringy or below average and so on. Mike Stanton has 80 raw power. Bengie Molina has 20 speed. An average fastball for a right-hander is 90-92 mph, with 1-2 mph off for a lefty.

• I've included last year's rank for players who appeared in the top 100 last offseason. An "ineligible" player (IE) was still an amateur at this time last January, whereas an "unranked" player (UR) was eligible but didn't make the cut. I've also tagged players who were on last year's sleepers list or list of 10 players who just missed the cut.



RANK POSITION PLAYER TEAM HEIGHT WEIGHT AGE
1 CF Mike Trout L.A. Angels 6-1 217 20
2 RF Bryce Harper Washington 6-2 245 19
3 LHP Matt Moore Tampa Bay 6-2 205 22
4 SS Manny Machado Baltimore 6-3 185 19
5 RHP Shelby Miller St. Louis 6-3 195 21
6 C Travis d'Arnaud Toronto 6-2 195 22
7 SS Jurickson Profar Texas 5-11 165 18
8 C Devin Mesoraco Cincinnati 6-1 220 23
9 DH/C Jesus Montero Seattle 6-3 235 22
10 RHP Gerrit Cole Pittsburgh 6-4 220 21
11 RHP Dylan Bundy Baltimore 6-1 200 19
12 SS Hak-Ju Lee Tampa Bay 6-2 170 21
13 OF Wil Myers Kansas City 6-3 205 21
14 RHP Arodys Vizcaino Atlanta 6-0 190 21
15 OF Bubba Starling Kansas City 6-4 180 19
16 RHP Jameson Taillon Pittsburgh 6-6 225 20
17 3B Anthony Rendon Washington 6-0 190 21
18 RHP Julio Teheran Atlanta 6-2 175 21
19 RHP Archie Bradley Arizona 6-4 225 19
20 LHP Martin Perez Texas 6-0 180 20
21 RHP Trevor Bauer Arizona 6-1 175 21
22 RHP Carlos Martinez St. Louis 6-0 165 20
23 LHP Manny Banuelos N.Y. Yankees 5-11 155 20
24 RHP Taijuan Walker Seattle 6-4 195 19
25 LHP Tyler Skaggs Arizona 6-4 195 20
26 3B Nolan Arenado Colorado 6-1 205 20
27 RHP Zack Wheeler N.Y. Mets 6-4 185 21
28 3B Miguel Sano Minnesota 6-3 195 18
29 RHP Jacob Turner Detroit 6-5 210 20
30 LHP Danny Hultzen Seattle 6-3 200 22
31 RHP Jarrod Parker Oakland 6-1 195 23
32 RHP Casey Kelly San Diego 6-3 195 22
33 RHP A.J. Cole Oakland 6-4 180 20
34 OF Mason Williams N.Y. Yankees 6-0 150 20
35 SS Francisco Lindor Cleveland 5-11 175 18
36 1B Anthony Rizzo Chicago Cubs 6-3 220 22
37 3B Nick Castellanos Detroit 6-4 195 19
38 RHP Matt Harvey N.Y. Mets 6-4 210 22
39 RHP Wily Peralta Milwaukee 6-4 240 22
40 OF Rymer Liriano San Diego 6-0 211 20
41 RHP Zach Lee L.A. Dodgers 6-4 190 20
42 RHP Drew Hutchison Toronto 6-2 165 21
43 3B Cheslor Cuthbert Kansas City 6-1 190 19
44 SS Jean Segura L.A. Angels 5-11 160 21
45 LHP Drew Pomeranz Colorado 6-5 230 23
46 1B/LF Jonathan Singleton Houston 6-2 215 20
47 OF Jake Marisnick Toronto 6-4 200 20
48 OF Christian Yelich Miami 6-4 189 20
49 RHP Joe Ross San Diego 6-3 185 18
50 OF Eddie Rosario Minnesota 6-0 170 20
51 LHP James Paxton Seattle 6-4 220 23
52 LHP Mike Montgomery Kansas City 6-4 185 22
53 OF Oscar Taveras St. Louis 6-2 180 19
54 RHP Daniel Corcino Cincinnati 5-11 165 21
55 C Gary Sanchez N.Y. Yankees 6-2 220 19
56 3B Jonathan Schoop Baltimore 6-1 187 20
57 SS Nick Franklin Seattle 6-1 175 20
58 RHP Taylor Jungmann Milwaukee 6-6 220 22
59 OF Anthony Gose Toronto 6-1 190 21
60 OF George Springer Houston 6-3 205 22
61 RHP Allen Webster L.A. Dodgers 6-3 185 22
62 SS Xander Bogaerts Boston 6-3 185 19
63 RHP Chris Archer Tampa Bay 6-3 185 23
64 SS Billy Hamilton Cincinnati 6-1 160 21
65 C Yasmani Grandal San Diego 6-2 205 23
66 3B Zack Cox St. Louis 6-0 215 22
67 OF Josh Bell Pittsburgh 6-4 195 19
68 CF Gary Brown San Francisco 6-1 190 23
69 1B Yonder Alonso San Diego 6-2 240 24
70 RHP Garrett Richards L.A. Angels 6-3 215 23
71 RHP Jake Odorizzi Kansas City 6-2 175 21
72 OF Starling Marte Pittsburgh 6-1 170 23
73 RHP Sonny Gray Oakland 5-11 200 22
74 RHP Tyrell Jenkins St. Louis 6-4 180 19
75 3B Mike Olt Texas 6-2 210 23
76 RHP Trevor May Philadelphia 6-5 215 22
77 OF Michael Choice Oakland 6-0 215 22
78 RHP Jarred Cosart Houston 6-3 180 21
79 RHP Nate Eovaldi L.A. Dodgers 6-3 195 21
80 OF Aaron Hicks Minnesota 6-2 185 22
81 RHP John Hellweg L.A. Angels 6-9 210 23
82 3B Matt Davidson Arizona 6-3 225 20
83 RHP Dellin Betances N.Y. Yankees 6-8 260 23
84 LHP Enny Romero Tampa Bay 6-3 165 21
85 OF Oswaldo Arcia Minnesota 6-0 210 20
86 OF Robbie Grossman Pittsburgh 6-1 190 22
87 OF Mikie Mahtook Tampa Bay 6-1 200 22
88 RHP Taylor Guerrieri Tampa Bay 6-3 195 19
89 CF Brett Jackson Chicago Cubs 6-2 210 23
90 3B Jedd Gyorko San Diego 5-10 195 23
91 RHP Chad Bettis Colorado 6-1 195 22
92 RHP Jordan Swagerty St. Louis 6-2 175 22
93 C Derek Norris Oakland 6-0 210 22
94 C Christian Bethancourt Atlanta 6-2 190 20
95 SS Javier Baez Chicago Cubs 6-0 180 19
96 RHP Aaron Sanchez Toronto 6-4 190 19
97 RHP Addison Reed Chicago White Sox 6-4 215 23
98 RHP Randall Delgado Atlanta 6-3 200 22
99 RHP Neil Ramirez Texas 6-3 185 22
100 C Blake Swihart Boston 6-1 175 19

[gator3guy]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Top Prospects

I like Law's list as well. He seems to project a little better IMO.