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  • Mweemwee
    Banned
    • Sep 2016
    • 495

    #1

    The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

    I said during the Prelude on the impressions thread that the new smooth driving animations etc seemed fishy but without the benefit of instant replay I didn't know what was causing it and I started to enjoy it.

    Today I found this game breaking reason why. I'm seriously struggling to carry on playing. I know it sounds dramatic, but how can I drive to the basket and feel good about my moves? Knowing that i didny do really well to get past, but in fact just morphed through?

    These are clips from one game but trust me, go to your own game and get past someone and watch the replay. Every. Time.

    Sorry for YouTube links but I don't know anywhere easier to upload it

    UPDATED CLIPS





    Last edited by Mweemwee; 09-24-2017, 01:33 PM.
  • whatitisinsports
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 355

    #2
    Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

    I just finished mentioning players going through players in my recent thread. Glad to see someone else who immediately saw how bad it is.

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    • Gramps91
      MVP
      • Sep 2010
      • 2116

      #3
      Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

      Personally, I really like the driving game this year


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      • jlaz
        Rookie
        • Aug 2017
        • 132

        #4
        Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

        i only drive to the basket with elite slashers like wb, durant, curry, superstars etc. you've gotta discipline yourself when players like craig ehlo can get past anyone whenever they want by simple running into them.

        really wish 2k would have worked to find a middle ground there instead of just throwing together an easy solution and then spending the rest of their time on microtransactions and neighborhood gimmicks. *sigh* i'm enjoying the game regardless.
        Last edited by jlaz; 09-24-2017, 12:49 PM.

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        • The 24th Letter
          ERA
          • Oct 2007
          • 39373

          #5
          Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

          These are just random inconsequential videos of clipping...its ugly, yes.but it doesn't really show us how 'game breaking' the driving is supposed to be...

          We didn't even get to see how these possesions ended..

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          Last edited by The 24th Letter; 09-24-2017, 05:07 PM.

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          • El_Poopador
            MVP
            • Oct 2013
            • 2624

            #6
            Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

            This kind of clipping has been in the game for years; it’s not new.


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            • Mweemwee
              Banned
              • Sep 2016
              • 495

              #7
              Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
              These are jusy random inconsequential videos of clipping...its ugly, yes.but it doesn't really show us how 'game breaking' the driving is supposed to be...

              We didn't even get to see how these possesions ended..

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              The possessions ended successfully, the drives worked. My problem is HOW they work.

              Game breaking was dramatic as I'm really enjoying the game but it's disappointing to know that the only reason you get past people easily is because you clip through them. Probably could have provided better clips. I might hop on the Xbox and update them

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              • Mweemwee
                Banned
                • Sep 2016
                • 495

                #8
                Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                Originally posted by El_Poopador
                This kind of clipping has been in the game for years; it’s not new.


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                Yes but it happens on every single play
                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                These are jusy random inconsequential videos of clipping...its ugly, yes.but it doesn't really show us how 'game breaking' the driving is supposed to be...

                We didn't even get to see how these possesions ended..

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                updated the first post with this clip, this is the first 5 minutes of a MyCareer game

                Last edited by Mweemwee; 09-24-2017, 01:41 PM.

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                • El_Poopador
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 2624

                  #9
                  Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                  Originally posted by Mweemwee
                  Yes but it happens on every single play updated the first post with this clip, this is the first 2 minutes of a MyCareer game

                  https://youtu.be/lIzXuoBRSHc


                  None of these show anything that would really affect the play though.


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                  • Mweemwee
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                    • Sep 2016
                    • 495

                    #10
                    Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                    Originally posted by El_Poopador
                    None of these show anything that would really affect the play though.


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                    You don't see that the only reason you're getting past people is because you're morphing through them? How does that not affect the play? It cheapens everything because you're not even going around people you're going through them

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                    • Mweemwee
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 495

                      #11
                      Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                      don't get me wrong because I'm enjoying the game and the driving this year but seeing this today has soured it for me

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                      • El_Poopador
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 2624

                        #12
                        Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                        Originally posted by Mweemwee
                        You don't see that the only reason you're getting past people is because you're morphing through them? How does that not affect the play? It cheapens everything because you're not even going around people you're going through them

                        It’s not pretty, but it is still considerably better than in the past. I would rather arms go through each other and have a realistic outcome than the defender slide back into place in front and stonewall the ballhandler.

                        They just need to add more body movement to react to other body parts. If they just made everything tangible but left everything else the same, every play would result in a foul. We would just see a bunch of headbutts and clotheslines based on those clips.


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                        • Mweemwee
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                          • Sep 2016
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                          #13
                          Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                          Originally posted by El_Poopador
                          It’s not pretty, but it is still considerably better than in the past. I would rather arms go through each other and have a realistic outcome than the defender slide back into place in front and stonewall the ballhandler.

                          They just need to add more body movement to react to other body parts. If they just made everything tangible but left everything else the same, every play would result in a foul. We would just see a bunch of headbutts and clotheslines based on those clips.


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                          I agree that it feels better in the moment when you're driving and the outcome is better, it just seems like a bit of a cruddy fix for the problem from previous years

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                          • El_Poopador
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 2624

                            #14
                            Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                            Originally posted by Mweemwee
                            I agree that it feels better in the moment when you're driving and the outcome is better, it just seems like a bit of a cruddy fix for the problem from previous years


                            I think they just need more time. They said they implemented a new movement system this year, so I’m willing to give it time to get better as long as they keep improving on it.

                            When the ball goes through a player and if affects the outcome of the play, that’s when I get upset. But to see a limb clip here and there doesn’t bother me, because I know it’s virtually impossible to eliminate all clipping.


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                            • The 24th Letter
                              ERA
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 39373

                              #15
                              Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                              Originally posted by El_Poopador
                              None of these show anything that would really affect the play though.


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                              Basically this.

                              You're equating those inconsequential clips of the head to your drives success, when they don't have anything to do with one another.

                              If you go back and play 2K17, where it was much, much harder to get past your man...you will see the same thing if you go into replay....the kind of clipping you are showing has been going on, it's not really a new discovery.

                              That said, there is definitely an uptick in clipping in 2K18 due to the new animation system, and there are real examples where clipping has actually caused an unrealistic outcome...but I wouldn't say any of these clips are examples of that.
                              Last edited by The 24th Letter; 09-24-2017, 01:57 PM.

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