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  • Mike Lowe
    All Star
    • Dec 2006
    • 5286

    #1

    Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders



    Version: 2.4

    FAQs

    Yes, I believe these will work fine on other difficult levels and whatever hitting/pitching/fielding settings you prefer. My official recommendations (seen below) are zone Legend hitting, meter Legend pitching, and auto fielding.

    Yes, these are up in the Vault. Search for Mike Lowe.

    I use zone hitting on Legend, but with the cursor off.

    I do move my cursor around, but also keep a simple gameplan in place for each at bat/situation, and try not to over-complicate my ABs.

    I pitch on Legend, and pitch for the edges to look to get the AI to chase, so walks and Ks will happen.

    I always use maximun pitch effectiveness in all 3-ball counts. This helps w walks.

    I try to not throw pitches in the dirt with runners on base.

    Yes, the AI will throw some beanballs, but your HBP will be in-line with the rest of the simulated games.

    Introduction

    Thanks for checking out my sliders for MLB The Show 20. This is my sixth season working on sliders for this game, which includes multiple seasons of 162 games where all games and all pitches were played. This slider set has been the most downloaded and highest-rated slider set the past three years in the MLB The Show Vault.

    I've been involved in game development as a freelance hobby for years now, most recently as a beta tester for Out of the Park Baseball, and I'm heavily focused on details and accuracy of simulation, striving to have a slider set that matches modern-MLB output, but also across the simulated game spectrum.

    Goals of this Set (approximates, and won't be every single game)

    60% first pitch strikes
    62% ball:strike ratio, but 65-68% for higher-end pitchers
    .300 team BABIP (use a BABIP calculator)
    15-18% foul balls per total pitches
    21% swings and misses per total number of swings (misses plus strikeouts)
    1.1-1.2+ HRs per game, per team.
    HBP should fall in-line with simulated games.
    Depending on repertoire, varied flyball to groundball ratios.

    The rest of your statistical accuracy will come from this output.

    Nutshell Explanation

    This set is based on accurate first-pitch strikes, ball-to-strike ratios, BABIP, foul ball %, swinging miss %, HR ratios, and groundball-to-flyball ratios. This is also the only slider I set I've seen that will give you accurate HBP totals for played games.

    Detailed Explanation

    These sliders are designed for people who've found they're in need of a more challenging and realistic set for MLB The Show. I've been playing The Show since the game first came out, and I'd say I'm a good player. Most importantly, I love baseball and am always looking for ways to make The Show as realistic as possible, even if that means I don't win the division every year. I hope you find some value in these sliders.

    It's important for you the gamer to take ownership of YOUR sliders and move beyond slider dependency/slideritis and learn how to comfortably tweak them without feeling as though the sky is falling or always needing my approval.

    Dynamic difficult is a brilliant idea, but it's too simplified--instead, take up the challenge to dynamically adjust your OWN difficulty (sliders/settings) as you go. I'm not a fan of "final" or "locked" sliders because you should always be evaluating and tweaking to adjust to your improved gameplay during the season; You're going to be better on game 162 than you are in game 1.

    At the same time, this game is clean and balanced enough that you don't need to restart over and over just because you bumped a few sliders up or down. Just play and continually check yourself against the league stats and rankings, and keep sample size in mind.

    The game plays well out of the box, and variety AND oddities are a part of baseball; Over the course of 162 games, it will level itself out just fine, and the cream will rise to the top. Don't worry if you're not the cream every season.

    Use these sliders as a base and tweak, because we ALL play differently and have our own unique skill sets. You don't need to wait to start a franchise to use these sliders, you don't need to start anything over, and you can tweak during your season as you won't be seeing anything out of the realm of possibility, and certainly nothing that won't stand the test of time over 162 games.

    Staying locked into a bad slider set for 162 games is the only thing that will skew your results one way or another.

    GAMEPLAY OPTIONS
    BATTING & BASERUNNING
    Hitting Difficulty - Legend

    Hitting View – The Show 15 (or whatever non-zoom camera you prefer)

    In-Play View Offense - Broadcast

    Ball Trail - Off

    Hitting Interface - Zone

    Input Type - Buttons

    Plate Coverage Indicator - Off

    Guess Pitch - Off

    Baserunning Decisions - Assist

    Baserunning Interface - Default

    Sliding Decisions - Assist

    Runner Windows - On

    PITCHING

    Pitching Difficulty - Legend

    Pitching Interface - Meter

    Pitch Feedback - On

    Pitching View – Broadcast

    Pitching Ball Marker - Off

    Pitch Confidence - On

    Pitch Delay - Normal

    API - Off

    FIELDING

    Throwing Interface - Buttons

    Throwing Meter - No Feedback

    Fielding Decision - Auto (or Assist for manual fielding)

    Throwing Decision - On (or Off for manual fielding)

    In-Play View Defense - Broadcast

    Throw Cancelling - On (for manual fielding)

    One Button Dive/Jump - Off

    Auto INF Jump Reaction: On

    Auto INF Dive Reaction: On

    Catch Position Indicator - On (it's hidden on Auto Fielding)

    Defensive Shift - Auto (but adjust yourself too if need be. Auto just helps save time.)

    Off the Wall Ribbon - Off

    GENERAL

    Strike Zone - Off

    Hot Zones - Always Preview

    Warm Up Pitchers - On or Off

    Tutorial Tips - Off

    Post Game Auto Save - Off

    Scorebar Display - On

    Pitch Select Display - On

    Swing/Pitch Info - On

    Balks - Off (AI wil never have one)

    Umpire Accuracy - Personalized

    Umpire Close Plays - On (new replays this year are great)

    Check Swing Appeals - On

    Injuries - On

    Ejections - On

    Vibration - Off

    Game Log Order - Default

    Presentation, Audio, & Mode-Specific Options

    All user choice

    SLIDERS

    Human Contact 5 or 6 (depends on your circumstances. I'm using 6 currently)

    Human Power 4

    Human Timing 5

    Human Foul Frequency 3

    Human Solid Hits 5

    Human Starter Stamina 6

    Human Reliever Stamina 5

    Human Pitch Control 0

    Human Pitcher Consistency 1

    CPU Contact 3

    CPU Power 4

    CPU Timing 0

    CPU Foul Frequency 0

    CPU Solid Hits 5

    CPU Starter Stamina 6 (sim at 8)

    CPU Reliever Stamina 5

    CPU Pitcher Control 6

    CPU Pitcher Consistency 5

    CPU Strike Frequency 5

    CPU Manager Hook 5 (bullpen at 8, and sim at 8)

    CPU Pickoffs 5 (-4)

    Fastball Pitch Speed 5

    Offspeed Pitch Speed 5

    Fielding Errors Infield 7

    Fielding Errors Outfield 7

    Throwing Errors Infield 7

    Throwing Errors Outfield 6

    Fielder Run Speed 4 (-1)

    Fielder Reaction 4 (-1)

    Fielder Arm Strength Infield 5

    Fielder Arm Strength Outfield 5

    Baserunner Speed 5 (+1)

    Baserunner Steal Ability 7

    Baserunner Steal Frequency 6

    Wind 5

    Injury Frequency 6 (7 is more realistic, but can create depth issues w only 90 players)

    Trade Frequency *(5 for Spring Training, 1 for April, 3 for May, 4 for June, 5 for July 1-29th, 10 for July 30-31st, 0 for rest of the regular season, 5 for offseason)

    HOUSE RULES (Optional)

    I recommend signing any top FAs to teams in your roster before starting as the AI teams will never sign anyone during the season. I try and find fits that make the most sense.

    I would also highly recommend spending a little time balancing each organization's roster balance as this seems to prevent some of the horrid first month trades.

    Try and keep LR spot open for AI teams. I scroll through the AI teams each day and just move the LR guy down to an open MR spot.

    I would turn the CPU Strike Frequency to 0 when facing a knuckleballer.

    Manager contracts - On

    If you want the artist-rendition bio pictures, start your franchise with a fantasy draft, and then back out of it before the first selection is made. Rosters will still be intact.

    Do not "visit mound" at the very start of an inning.

    No going back to the bag on a steal attempt.

    Assume the AI teams only want to deal primarily from their trade block, and don't abuse the shop player feature.

    No changing of coaching staff until the offseason unless AI team does so first.

    Important

    You will get accurate sim stats too IF you follow these suggestions, AND IF you revert after a save/sim anytime you see your league totals for complete games going above a total of 10 per month (about 60 total for the entire season).

    Before simming any AI games, scroll through the other teams to ensure they do not have any pitcher in their LRP role. Only a day-to-day injured player not on the DL should appear here.

    I stream some games from my franchise, and you can see my results, box scores, etc during those streams.
    Last edited by Mike Lowe; 09-19-2020, 02:48 AM.
  • Mike Lowe
    All Star
    • Dec 2006
    • 5286

    #2
    Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

    Assorted Slider Demos







    Last edited by Mike Lowe; 03-22-2020, 07:14 PM.

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    • Adrianw1992
      Just started!
      • Oct 2016
      • 2

      #3
      Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

      Been using your sliders for years, just got back into my save from last year, into my second season with the Giants. Following all the house rules as best i can. One thing im not sure about is the September call ups, as ive been removing the middle relief pitchers so that the innings are up to par, but im not sure if i need to re order everyones rosters to remove extra pitchers. Or keep them. Also, if you need any testing done once the new games releases then i can happily do that for you. If played over 6 or 7 full seasons over multiple games all only using your sliders. So i have a lot of ways to test sliders for you. Also i tend to have lots of time to play which may result in more sample size to show you. Not looking to change your sliders or replace your own testing. Just offering up another pair of hands to get you some stats. If not all good man. Thanks for the sliders as per usual.

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      • Mike Lowe
        All Star
        • Dec 2006
        • 5286

        #4
        Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

        This is super helpful, and I'll definitely appreciate seeing your updates.

        As for the bullpens in September, I'm assuming you're talking about the AI teams and where they slot guys? The most important part is to ensure guys stay out of that long reliever role as much as possible, or if you have to have someone there, just make sure it's a lesser pitcher with some stamina.

        You can take it a step further by ensuring their best RP isn't ALWAYS in the setup role, or at least not their top 2 guys after the closer. Basically, I want one of those top 3 RPs in a MR slot so that they'll get used more often.

        I really really hope Show 20 makes some adjustments to bullpen and starting staff logic, but I'm not optimistic, unfortunately. I have legitimate reason to believe nothing was changed in regards to pitching logic, and with the new 3-batter minimum, I am worried that no adjustments to substitution logic were made to counter how MLB teams will handle pitching staffs. This 3-batter minimum could end making things worse.

        We shall see though. I hope I am wrong.

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        • saintrules
          MVP
          • May 2016
          • 1393

          #5
          Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

          Currently using your Madden 20 sliders and am having a blast...no brainer to try your MLB 20 stuff when they get released. Haven't played The Show since '16 (played OOTP), so very excited to get some baseball back on the console with your set.
          ~ Return of the King ~

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          • tuckermaine
            Banned
            • Nov 2017
            • 922

            #6
            Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

            Mike I have rediscovered your sliders as of late..maybe too late. Early on I was all over the map with sliders because I thought it could fix the BR aggressiveness or lack there of. However I’ve found through Bacons fictional rosters he had bumped up the player BR Agg attribute.

            Went back and fired up your sliders and the game jumps off the screen with realism. Your sliders always produced a variation in game results and great outfielder/ baserunning chemistry but now with the adjustments to my roster I am finally immersed in the game..I should state I’m a Cpu vs Cpu guy .

            I am looking forward to your sliders for 20 and appreciate all the hard work that you put into it.
            I’m hoping 20 will have BR aggressiveness fixed but if not I think I’ve solved it with help from you and Bacon
            Once again thanks...

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            • hitman23
              Rookie
              • May 2014
              • 278

              #7
              Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

              Hi Mike, every year I use your sliders. I like them very much. I do have question though. Why do you only have fast pitch set in the middle and not all of the way? You must have a reason. I would be interested on your reasoning. Thanks again for doing these sliders every year.

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              Last edited by hitman23; 03-01-2020, 08:08 PM.

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              • Mike Lowe
                All Star
                • Dec 2006
                • 5286

                #8
                Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

                Originally posted by hitman23
                Hi Mike, every year I use your sliders. I like them very much. I do have question though. Why do you only have fast pitch set in the middle and not all of the way? You must have a reason. I would be interested on your reasoning. Thanks again for doing these sliders every year.

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                Fast pitch? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

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                • hitman23
                  Rookie
                  • May 2014
                  • 278

                  #9
                  Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

                  Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                  Fast pitch? I'm not sure what you're referring to.
                  Sorry, Fastball Pitch Speed.

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                  • Mike Lowe
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 5286

                    #10
                    Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

                    Originally posted by hitman23
                    Hi Mike, every year I use your sliders. I like them very much. I do have question though. Why do you only have fast pitch set in the middle and not all of the way? You must have a reason. I would be interested on your reasoning. Thanks again for doing these sliders every year.

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                    Because 5 is the default. It doesn't mean it's slow or anything like that, but it matches at 5 across all game modes. It's rare when I ever touch that slider out of respect for people who play other game modes. 5 is actually realistic as it helps with the proper amount of pull hitters.

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                    • hitman23
                      Rookie
                      • May 2014
                      • 278

                      #11
                      Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

                      Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                      Because 5 is the default. It doesn't mean it's slow or anything like that, but it matches at 5 across all game modes. It's rare when I ever touch that slider out of respect for people who play other game modes. 5 is actually realistic as it helps with the proper amount of pull hitters.
                      Understood.

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                      • tuckermaine
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 922

                        #12
                        Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

                        Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                        Because 5 is the default. It doesn't mean it's slow or anything like that, but it matches at 5 across all game modes. It's rare when I ever touch that slider out of respect for people who play other game modes. 5 is actually realistic as it helps with the proper amount of pull hitters.
                        Would that apply for Cpu Cpu games...( helping pull hitters) ..or are you using that slider at five for people who actually manually play?

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                        • Mike Lowe
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 5286

                          #13
                          Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

                          Originally posted by tuckermaine
                          Would that apply for Cpu Cpu games...( helping pull hitters) ..or are you using that slider at five for people who actually manually play?
                          If you're playing CPU v CPU, I don't think pitch speed will make any difference. I seem to recall a dev saying a few years ago that not even steal success is impacted by pitch speed, but I have no idea whether that's the case as I've never messed with pitch speed.

                          To answer your question, yes I was referring to players who play out their games.

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                          • Mike Lowe
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 5286

                            #14
                            Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

                            My vacation got canceled, but I have the game and will be working on things this weekend. Stay tuned!

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                            • agentlaw13
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 557

                              #15
                              Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

                              Glad to see you back and looking forward you your set as always. Loving how the game plays so far. Getting some games under my belt and will gladly provide feedback here if needed. Can’t wait to see how much better the slider adjustments will make this year’s game.

                              2 questions for you:

                              - Which pitching interface are you planning on using this year? I got into classic last year and played w/ meter the year before that. Been testing with pulse this year and I believe that will be my preferred option for this year. Just curious which you’re leaning towards?

                              - I believe most of us in here like to play w/clean screen approach. But with the upgrades to the pci are you planning on playing with it on or to fade this year? I’ve been playing w/ it on fadeout just to try it and not clutter my view once the pitch comes in. I keep going back and forth with turning it on and off. Haven’t settled in that yet.

                              Regarding the clean screen approach, I’ve noticed that even with the swing/pitch info turned to off, the pitch type/location/speed still pops up after each pitch but the swing info does not (like it should). Have any of you noticed this? I’ve submitted a bug report and hopefully they’ll patch that and allow for a true clean screen approach. Really wish they would allow us to access that info with a button touch after each pitch instead of having to have it on or off. I jump into the options menu often in a game to just to turn the option on to get the swing info an a previous pitch and then turn it off so. I know it’s minor but tying that info to a button would be so much easier.

                              Alright, enough rambling...back to playing/testing!




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