NBA 2K10 Patch Details Announced PS3/360 (Updated 10/22)

[Bornindamecca]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Some of you guys on OS need to cut the act of "entitled gamer." Really making us look like a bunch of grumpy old men who will never be pleased.

That can be a blurry line though. If there is something about the game that you don't like, or that you don't think is sim, then whatever. You can complain but you're not entitled to having it changed to suit your needs. In that sense, you're right.

However, when servers don't allow people to play online, freezes prevent a game mode from functioning or bugs change the very nature of the experience, people are entitled to have their product repaired, or return it flat out.

People do need to realize that 2k is not a person, but a team, and that some members of the team have no control over some things. In this sense, 2k members can only communicate what they think will happen, but may not have been the cause or solution for certain issues.

All the same, people are entitled to a working product. If an issue prevents the game from working as promised(or as games work according to the standard of the industry), the consumer has indeed been denied what they are entitled to receive upon the agreement of purchase.

[pimpmonsta]

Quote: Originally Posted by ddaugherty

actually looks good.....i am hopin it fixes kick out issues.....LOL and the 2k forums are about ready to explode.....these ppl must be some little B*****S on that forum...LOL

f u. im on that forum

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vast

great post once again. I would absolutely love if 2k could act like the Madden team in regards to community feedback. example. Hey guys this is Simballer, were thinking of making a my player mode, if we did what do you think we should include? Something along those lines. But i know EXACTLY why they dont and Madden can..... its called competition. And unfortunately for us it forces 2k to Limit community interactivity during the game making process.

Exactly....EA is such a huge company. They can afford it.

[drewbaby1414]

Now that I have the Nogster Roster I am really wanting to start my association. I think that I will have to hold off until the patch is released as I would like the player progression/shot tendencies/Player Moral/Contract issues patched before I roll into it.

I really hope a dev. can shed some light about this and if the patch would allow us to continue in our association.

If not I guess I will have to wait until December when the patch comes out. Patch is coming in first part of December correct?

[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bornindamecca

That can be a blurry line though. If there is something about the game that you don't like, or that you don't think is sim, then whatever. You can complain but you're not entitled to having it changed to suit your needs. In that sense, you're right. However, when servers don't allow people to play online, freezes prevent a game mode from functioning or bugs change the very nature of the experience, people are entitled to have their product repaired, or return it flat out. People do need to realize that 2k is not a person, but a team, and that some members of the team have no control over some things. In this sense, 2k members can only communicate what they think will happen, but may not have been the cause or solution for certain issues. All the same, people are entitled to a working product. If an issue prevents the game from working as promised(or as games work according to the standard of the industry), the consumer has indeed been denied what they are entitled to receive upon the agreement of purchase.

QFT

[drewbaby1414]

I went to the 2K10 website/forum. They stated that the patch details have been updated for the Xbox but I can't seem to find them.

Maybe they are just the same. Not sure.

Does anyone know what the difference in the two patches are?

[BroMontana82]

Quote: Originally Posted by cujomatty

Great read. Here's my problem with this though. 20 out of 20 testers must have noticed the framerate issues. NBA 2k10 is easily my favorite bball game to date but I'm sick of this under resourced, short development excuse crap. I can accept players teleporting once and a while or defence not double teaming the right way, stuff like that. I can understand how stuff like that could be missed or considered low priority. I have no problem waiting on the patch for that stuff But waiting 2 months for a patch that fixes the most glaring issue, the framerate, some accountability needs to be taken here. I don't want to see an article like ^^^^^ Just tell me u effed up and we will move on. I have to wait and enjoy this awesome game till mid - end November? that's garbage. It's like putting unwrapped presents for your kids under the tree in November. Sorry kids you can't play with that xbox 360 till December 25th. Sorry guys I'm just tired of crap like this. Accountability!!

yeah i agree about the framerate. i understand where they are coming from and the testers and short dev. cycles, but it's interesting that this was passed over as it was one of the major issues last year at release and even after the patch when they said it was fixed. plain and simple, it wasn't fixed. for it to still be a problem this year points towards some sort of upper management decision to pass over the problem and focus on other things until people got really frustrated. either that, or it was tough to find a good fix without affecting anything else. who knows, but it would be interesting to hear about or know the real truth behind things like this.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bornindamecca

That can be a blurry line though. If there is something about the game that you don't like, or that you don't think is sim, then whatever. You can complain but you're not entitled to having it changed to suit your needs. In that sense, you're right. However, when servers don't allow people to play online, freezes prevent a game mode from functioning or bugs change the very nature of the experience, people are entitled to have their product repaired, or return it flat out. People do need to realize that 2k is not a person, but a team, and that some members of the team have no control over some things. In this sense, 2k members can only communicate what they think will happen, but may not have been the cause or solution for certain issues. All the same, people are entitled to a working product. If an issue prevents the game from working as promised(or as games work according to the standard of the industry), the consumer has indeed been denied what they are entitled to receive upon the agreement of purchase.

You're right. I wish people would take the stance that they have, however, and stop acting like you're defending the casual consumer.

You can work around pretty much most of your issues, can you not? If you're here on OS, you're an informed gamer. You know they're patching X, Y and Z. What does that make you when you keep complaining about it?

Old school members here worked with developers in making our games better, not telling them what to do. It's that latter mindset and not the former that is permeating the community now, for some unknown reason.

I remember you saying in the Live forum that time was something they certainly did not have enough of. The same can probably be said here. It seems like the patch will prove that, and we as a community of knowledgeable gamers to understand that. (EDIT: And carry ourselves as such.)