Solid Hits Slider

[johnpreyes]

For slider creators, I'm wondering why most of you set the subject slider to 4. Is it to get better hit variety? I'm asking because with this set to 4, I've noticed that a lot of the hits are of the bloop variety and it feels cheap. Thoughts?

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Quote: Originally Posted by johnpreyes

For slider creators, I'm wondering why most of you set the subject slider to 4. Is it to get better hit variety? I'm asking because with this set to 4, I've noticed that a lot of the hits are of the bloop variety and it feels cheap. Thoughts?

I'm not a slider creator per se, but I do a ton of testing and stat tracking. What you see with this slider will also depend a lot on other sliders, like Contact, Power, Fielder Speed and others. With certain settings you may not even see enough bloop hits on 4. I have been using 3 with my current settings. It also depends on what you consider bloop hits. If you are seeing a lot of near-pop-ups falling in, that's one thing, as opposed to soft line drives making it over the infield.

[HighCmpPct]

This isn't a specific breakdown of how these ratings work in game but this is how I like to think about it.

Contact: How often/ How easy you can touch the ball with the Bat.

Power: Duh

Solid hits: How often you square up/get underneath/get on top of the ball.

So I slightly lower SH slider allows for those dying qualils, falling liners and what not you see all the time in real life MLB.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Quote: Originally Posted by HighCmpPct

This isn't a specific breakdown of how these ratings work in game but this is how I like to think about it. Contact: How often/ How easy you can touch the ball with the Bat. Power: Duh Solid hits: How often you square up/get underneath/get on top of the ball. So I slightly lower SH slider allows for those dying qualils, falling liners and what not you see all the time in real life MLB.

Yes, that's pretty much it I think, with an added fact that Contact creates a larger PCI which can also create more or less squared up balls and line drives depending on its size and placement over the pitch location.

[HighCmpPct]

Quote: Originally Posted by NolanRyansSnowmonkey

Yes, that's pretty much it I think, with an added fact that Contact creates a larger PCI which can also create more or less squared up balls and line drives depending on its size and placement over the pitch location.

Yeah I play with directional, personally i feel like solid hits probably has less of an impact with zone hitting as you are kinda in control of that yourself.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by HighCmpPct

Yeah I play with directional, personally i feel like solid hits probably has less of an impact with zone hitting as you are kinda in control of that yourself.

Agreed, and I think this also applies to the CPU since it seems to "use" Zone when it hits.

[nomo17k]

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

Agreed, and I think this also applies to the CPU since it seems to "use" Zone when it hits.

This isn't actually true I think. The closest hitting mechanism CPU uses would be Directional (or what used to be called Timing more precisely), and pretty much the only difference is that swing decision/timing is up to the user.

All hitting mechanisms uses PCI (if by Zone this was actually meant). PCI for Directional was hidden from our view since it led to frequent complaint when A.I. (which is mostly the same as the one used for CPU) didn't place it where it made sense to the user.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

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Quote: Originally Posted by HighCmpPct

Yeah I play with directional, personally i feel like solid hits probably has less of an impact with zone hitting as you are kinda in control of that yourself.

I havent played directional, only zone, and I see a big difference with only one notch of the solid hits slider in any direction. In the past it's made too much difference with one notch in my opinion, I still haven't decided how much of a difference the solid hits slider makes this year, but there is still a very noticeable difference so far with this slider.

Edit: After further review, I realize you said "less of" an impact, which may very well be true since I strictly use zone and havent used directional other than practice..