2016-17 NBA MVP

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Doesn't have to go to the 1 seed everytime but they'd have a stronger case evey year for consideration than a 6th seeded team player.

[dubcity]

More wins and a way, way more efficient scorer. Only real statistical argument for Westbrook is his advantage in rebounds, which, meh.

[ojandpizza]

Quote: Originally Posted by dubcity

More wins and a way, way more efficient scorer. Only real statistical argument for Westbrook is his advantage in rebounds, which, meh.

Efficiency is actually fairly close. Both well under LeBron and a little under Kawhi though. But Harden is above Westbrook.

Russ also has PER, OBPM, BPM, VORP. Number 1 in the league in all of them.

I think it's more along the lines of the only real statistical argument for Harden is wins and win shares.


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[dubcity]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

Efficiency is actually fairly close. Both well under LeBron and a little under Kawhi though. But Harden is above Westbrook. Russ also has PER, OBPM, BPM, VORP. Number 1 in the league in all of them. I think it's more along the lines of the only real statistical argument for Harden is wins and win shares. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well, my definition of scoring efficiency is pretty simple. Westbrook is taking 24 shots to score 32 PPG. Harden is taking 19 to score 29. Westbrook has taken like 400 more shots the Harden, and has 300 more missed FGs.

[ojandpizza]

Quote: Originally Posted by dubcity

Well, my definition of scoring efficiency is pretty simple. Westbrook is taking 24 shots to score 32 PPG. Harden is taking 19 to score 29. Westbrook has taken like 400 more shots the Harden, and has 300 more missed FGs.

That's fair. I was just looking at the percentages, Harden has him beat by a little in each but not by much. I guess a little in each adds up to a large level when it's all combined though. Harden's overall output will actually end up being similar to Curry last year, despite Curry's percentages being off the charts. I guess the free throws make up the ground in that comparison. Impressive either way.


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[BleacherBum2310]

I would go Harden, Kawhi, Westbrook, Lebron.

though it has been really fun to have a loaded mvp field.

[The 24th Letter]

Seeing all these reasons as to why RWB should be disqualified make me wonder why Kawhi isn't the consensus....

Wins: check
Efficiency: check

Stats...Hardens averages are clearly better. but the weight they have seems to shift based on the conversation....

Explanation?

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Quote: Originally Posted by BleacherBum2310

I would go Harden, Kawhi, Westbrook, Lebron. though it has been really fun to have a loaded mvp field.

I still haven't decided my final rankings, but for now, I'd go with Harden, Kawhi, Westbrook, and then LeBron. This is a really tough year and I think it'll come down to the wire for me.


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