09:31 AM - April 29, 2013 by jpdavis82
UTC has posted their Madden NFL 25 gameplay roundtable. A few of the guys there have had hands-on time with the game.
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Madden NFL 25 News Post
09:31 AM - April 29, 2013 by jpdavis82UTC has posted their Madden NFL 25 gameplay roundtable. A few of the guys there have had hands-on time with the game.
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I think the bottom line is that everyone's perception of "What Football" should look like ranges across a broad spectrum and that it doesn't mean that one is right, while the other is wrong.
With that, I believe this is what's represented in various post concerning EA's brand of football on just about any/every discussion board concerning the sport.
Oftentimes when I see posting from those who have had some pre-release play time (at whatever build stage) I immediately know that my perception of football and the in's and out's of the video game representation will be very different.
My point of view comes from my experience at all 3 levels as well as from a coach's point of view, which in many ways, may be why I'm so critical about what plays out on the screen. I know that vast number of other gamer's will post perceptions that will in some ways agree, and in many disagree with what I see (even from a simple screen shot).
Take this and the history of the game maker and it's football game, one can see why gamer's viewpoints of EA's football games range from one end to the other.
The truth is that the "Sports Gaming Standards" are against Madden and NCAA which adds to the dissection of their football games.
The question isn't...
Will Madden 25 be better than any other prior Madden release?
But rather, will Madden 25 meet or be better than the Sports Gaming Standards that other games have set?
This question is what I look for in any pre-release play review/write-up concerning any sports game.
In the case of Madden/NCAA, I'm just not seeing in their words something/anything that says the games have finally met and/or exceeded that standard.
I guess my personal perception's "WOW" factor is set TOOOO high for this game maker!!!
Good feedback though.
With that, I believe this is what's represented in various post concerning EA's brand of football on just about any/every discussion board concerning the sport.
Oftentimes when I see posting from those who have had some pre-release play time (at whatever build stage) I immediately know that my perception of football and the in's and out's of the video game representation will be very different.
My point of view comes from my experience at all 3 levels as well as from a coach's point of view, which in many ways, may be why I'm so critical about what plays out on the screen. I know that vast number of other gamer's will post perceptions that will in some ways agree, and in many disagree with what I see (even from a simple screen shot).
Take this and the history of the game maker and it's football game, one can see why gamer's viewpoints of EA's football games range from one end to the other.
The truth is that the "Sports Gaming Standards" are against Madden and NCAA which adds to the dissection of their football games.
The question isn't...
Will Madden 25 be better than any other prior Madden release?
But rather, will Madden 25 meet or be better than the Sports Gaming Standards that other games have set?
This question is what I look for in any pre-release play review/write-up concerning any sports game.
In the case of Madden/NCAA, I'm just not seeing in their words something/anything that says the games have finally met and/or exceeded that standard.
I guess my personal perception's "WOW" factor is set TOOOO high for this game maker!!!
Good feedback though.
We appreciate the feedback guys. Thanks for reading. Just remember that no matter if we're Game Changers or not, we still have concerns and issues. We're always trying to improve the games we play but that doesn't necessarily mean they listen to us at all times.
Keep hitting us with feedback and we'll keep bringing it to the studios.
Keep hitting us with feedback and we'll keep bringing it to the studios.
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Have you played any parts of the game, yet? pre-alpa, alpha? etc.......
I was wondering if you have seen more wrap-up tackles, yet, vs some of these collision style hits with these trailers we are seeing?
I haven't played the game as of yet, but what I can say is that I'll be playing the game very soon. More of my focus will be on CCM, but my hope is to get a good handle on the gameplay as well. Once I've got my time in, you can expect me to be around here more and more to communicate some things.
I also have a thread up in the wishlist section in regards to CCM feedback, so feel free to add to it if there's anything you want me to bring up. Think about adding it sooner rather than later
I'll take all of your questions into account and report back once I have some hands-on. Cool?
I also have a thread up in the wishlist section in regards to CCM feedback, so feel free to add to it if there's anything you want me to bring up. Think about adding it sooner rather than later
I'll take all of your questions into account and report back once I have some hands-on. Cool?
"Madden had the best overall player movement on the PS2/Xbox era of gaming. EA needs to take from that and make something better than anything else that was ever produced in the past. There was no such thing as “zig-zag running”, “route mirroring”, or “hummingbird movement” back then, it definitely shouldn’t be there now, especially when you’re talking about realism and authenticity."
PS2 Madden had the best player movement? No route mirroring on PS2? No zig zag running?
Whaaaat?
PS2 Madden had the best player movement? No route mirroring on PS2? No zig zag running?
Whaaaat?
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And there is very much so route mirroring on PS2, and zig zag running. It is possible to shake the entire 11 man kickoff team, multiple times, on one kickoff return, without employing a single special move from a button or right stick on PS2. I know because I have done it many times, and have multiple friends that could do it at will as well.
And the term psychic DB's was in use before this generation.
The movement, animations, and momentum on PS2 was terrible. Just not AS terrible as now.
I must be older than all of you or something.
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It had worse animations than Joe Montana. Worse animations than Gameday. Worse than 2K. Worse than... well there isn't anything for it to be worse than now, but if there was, I can assure you it would be. The same goes for it's basketball games, tennis games, Baseball games.. let's just put it out there, EA Sports in general has a very bad track record for animation tech. And player models, but's that's a whole other can of worms. I have no idea how, because none of the others have anywhere near the resources put into Mo-Cap that EA does.
Last gen animations at the very least did not suffer the OBVIOUS hitching in rendering that the current gen does, but that, in and of itself, doesn't make them realistic.
It's just bizarre. They use state of the art motion capture to capture movement. What exactly is their technology and or process that it comes out looking the way that it does? I seriously can't see how it would be possible for a mo-cap actor to run hunched over like that without falling over unless he was in a wire harness...
Maybe I'm onto something lol.
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I didn't even know about this site existed until last week but considering who the founder is and how he behaved here last year. I'll personally have a hard time considering information posted their unbiased.
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But good read fellas and some enlighten stuff for me to think about these next few months. Game goes gold soon and im actually tired of "patch city" out of the gates with this game.
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I dont care how early in production this game footage was in at the time, I still have a hard time understanding why they're not building on existing code with tweaks and updates to its features but instead goes full on re-write every cycle?
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There are some out of those listed that I will pay more attention to.
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Not to get too far into comparing the two, but I think that Euphoria in BackBreaker had a ton of more potential than the Infinity Engine. And before anyone gives me the obligatory post about how buggy BB was, I agree, it was. IE was buggy too though. The difference is that everyone, for some reason, is OK with giving Tiburon as much time as they need to get IE perfected, but Natural Motion had to get it right the very first time and they didn't even have any kind of budget.
I can only imagine the kind of Football game that could have been produced from all that potential of Euphoria, if it were handled by a team that actually knew the first thing about American Football.
/rant.
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In particular, anyone I ever played football games with on Gen-6 consoles (PS2/XBOX) preferred Madden to other football games from an animation perspective because it was perceived as more fluid and less jerky, notably when the ballcarrier was running. The technology before that point wasn't good enough for any game to have "good" animation or for there to be any useful comparison, IMO.
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