Werewolf II - Flight to Hawthorne Manor

[Neuqua]

Maybe it's the alcohol or maybe it's the late time of night, but I don't follow your reasoning.. Airhog's proclaimation that he is a werewolf and that he is going to eat you, puts my suspicion firmly on his shoulders.

By bringing my name into it however in a way he's already whether on purpose or not made a connection between our two characters. So now my own unbiased thinking would be that by proclaiming he was a werewolf and then using my name as well, he could possibly just be trying to use reverse psychology and have the rest of you instead NOT vote for us two because he couldn't possibly be dumb enough to out himself and his partner in crime now could he? It would be an insanely high stake gamble on his part, and unfortunatly for me and my fellow villagers it is not one we need to take up on. We are already down one villager, we cannot even the stakes even more for the bad side.

I can sit here and tell you for sure that I am indeed a villager and that executing me would be a mistake. The wolf is among us, whether it be my own personal paranoia of the game or not, I am going to have to give a hard strong look in Airhog's direction now.

[Qwikshot]

c'MON people

[KWhit]

By bringing my name into it however in a way he's already whether on purpose or not made a connection between our two characters. So now my own unbiased thinking would be that by proclaiming he was a werewolf and then using my name as well, he could possibly just be trying to use reverse psychology and have the rest of you instead NOT vote for us two because he couldn't possibly be dumb enough to out himself and his partner in crime now could he? It would be an insanely high stake gamble on his part, and unfortunatly for me and my fellow villagers it is not one we need to take up on. We are already down one villager, we cannot even the stakes even more for the bad side.

I can sit here and tell you for sure that I am indeed a villager and that executing me would be a mistake. The wolf is among us, whether it be my own personal paranoia of the game or not, I am going to have to give a hard strong look in Airhog's direction now.
Yeah, that would be a pretty bold gamble for him to say that he was the werewolf if he actually WAS the ww. I doubt he did that.

[Eaglesfan27]

Hiding in plain sight can sometimes be very effective. Perhaps, that is airhog's strategy?

[Lathum]

Well at the very least whoever the seer is may be keeping a close eye on him.

[Desnudo]

Sorry Shorty. I think whoever makes the most noise at the start always runs the risk of getting waxed.

[Barkeep49]

Man this looks like fun. I hope to join in next game. Poor shorty.

[Mustang]

Of course, doesn't necessarily mean that the wolves are the slackers. Anyone with a role could be... don't think either side has an advantage knowing there are slackers.

[Lathum]

you know, some people also have lives. I'm just not one of them

[korme]

Your group has heated discussions all through the day, but in the end it comes to voting, and Shorty gets the short straw. At the end, with everyone surrounding him, he starts to mount an impassioned defense of his innocence but is cut short by several people with knives stabbing him to death. Unfortunately, he is an innocent villager.

Votes:

Airhog - 3 (KevinNU7, Desnudo, Lathum)
Desnudo - 3 (condors, ntndeacon, Airhog)
NoMyths - 5 (Neuqua, Shorty, EaglesFan27, KWhit, Mustang)
Shorty - 7 (NoMyths, Swaggs, TazFTW, Jon, George W Bush, McSweeny, Qwikshot)
Neuqua - 1 BrianD


Night Turn 2

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW
Airhog
NoMyths
Qwikshot
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD
Condors
Eaglesfan
GWB
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

Night draws close. I need PMs from the wolves, doctor, bodyguard, seer, and sorceror if I don't already have them.
Everyone can suck my dick now

[korme]

Sorry Shorty. I think whoever makes the most noise at the start always runs the risk of getting waxed.
Well it started because I hadn't posted yet, ironically. Was too suspicious. http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[KevinNU7]

Everyone can suck my dick now
Grow up

[KevinNU7]

Can we just lynch the lazy bastard who forgets to PM Peregrine?

[Eaglesfan27]

Everyone can suck my dick now
I vote for someone else and this is the thanks I get.... ;)

[korme]

I vote for someone else and this is the thanks I get.... ;)
Well thanks for not persuading anyone else to follow suit http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Airhog]

I am not a werewolf. I may be a hunter, a seer, an bodyguard, a werewolf, but I am not a porn star.

[McSweeny]

ok well since we lynched an innocent, should we be discussing strategy?

[Eaglesfan27]

ok well since we lynched an innocent, should we be discussing strategy?

Personally, I think we need to wait to see who gets eaten to really discuss strategy in depth.

[Joe]

ok well since we lynched an innocent, should we be discussing strategy?

We could, but it would be helpful to see what happens in the night turn. We have nothing more to go on than yesterday, other than Shorty being a villager.

[Eaglesfan27]

*puts some garlic around his neck. Wonders if his memory is correct and werewolves don't like garlic, or is that only vampires?*

[ntndeacon]

Let's lynch a werewolf this time.

[Eaglesfan27]

Good gameplan.

[korme]

*puts some garlic around his neck. Wonders if his memory is correct and werewolves don't like garlic, or is that only vampires?*
Looked that up when I figured out I could throw silver spoons at NM. Silve = bad for werewolfs. Garlic is bad for vamps.

[Lathum]

Good idea

[Lathum]

Alot of people hanging around. Not that I'm in a hurry to be eatin or lynched, but what's the holdup?

[Eaglesfan27]

*puts a silver cross around his neck in addition to the garlic. Hey it can't hurt.*

[Eaglesfan27]

I think Peregrine is still waiting for some PM's. Of course, he also might not around now..

[KWhit]

Let's lynch a werewolf this time.
Brilliant!

[Lathum]

This is so much freakin fun

[KWhit]

Everyone can suck my dick now
Necrophelia is gross. Especially with guys.

[Airhog]

I can't wait to see who gets killed tonight

[Peregrine]

The morning is cloudy, with fog covering your view of the outdoors through the few unshuttered windows. It's one of those quiet, dead mornings where nothing seems quite real. You all get up and cautiously make your way to the main room, where you do a headcount and realize the no one is missing, for the second night in a row! Were you mistaken about the werewolves? Possibly, but no one wants to face that possibility now that there is blood on all of your hands. No, they must still be among you, but who?

Day Turn 2

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW
Airhog
NoMyths
Qwikshot
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD
Condors
Eaglesfan
GWB
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

[Peregrine]

Sorry for the delay all, got tied up with some errands with the GF today and took longer than expected to get back and put up the reply. For now I'll set the lynch deadline as 11 pm Eastern on Sunday night. However, if you guys think that won't be enough time since a lot of today was lost, we can move it back to Monday. We'll see how the discussions go.

[Eaglesfan27]

Hmm, this is a most unexpected turn of events.

[Airhog]

Most interesting, maybe someone has a secret angel watching above them. Either that, or one of the bodyguards chose to protect the one who should have been eaten. Interesting indeed.

[TazFTW]

I vote Airhog

He says he's a werewolf, lets find out.

[Joe]

I think its enough time for sunday

[BrianD]

So did we have a really smart bodyguard, or really smart wolves who picked the cursed one? As glad as I am that we didn't lose a villager, now we don't have much more to go on than we did for the first lynching.

[TazFTW]

The doctor could have also saved the victim.

[Joe]

The doctor could have also saved the victim.

But that would've been announced, and the victim wouldnt be able to vote for the next lynch, so we'd know.

[TazFTW]

Is it announced? I didn't see anything about it being announced, so the person who was saved could just say that RL took them away from voting.

[korme]

Yea, but if someone gets saved they'd want to tell people, not hide it or lie

[KevinNU7]

I would think you'd see something like this, "Person X was seen at breakfast but in horrible shape, chances are he will be in bed the rest of the day and not be voting."

I Vote Airhog

You wanna "joke" that you are a werewolf then you get what is coming to you. Exteremly poor stradegy.

[Eaglesfan27]

He is either a barmy villager or a barmy werewolf since he declared himself a werewolf. Either way, he is a threat.

I vote Airhog

[NoMyths]

I agree with everyone else...if you tell a room full of drunk paranoiacs that you're a furry, you get what's coming to you.

I vote Airhog

[Lathum]

well things cartainly are getting strange, but mob mentality is starting to take over pretty quickly.

I Vote Airhog

[KWhit]

Wow. Another no kill?

And I'm not sold on Airhog yet. I'm hoping somebody will say something stupid between now and tomorrow night to earn my vote.

[KWhit]

Another wow. Look at all the Airhog votes!

In the time it took me to type my last post another 2 people voted for him.

I know what strategy NOT to try next time!

[BrianD]

Is it announced? I didn't see anything about it being announced, so the person who was saved could just say that RL took them away from voting.

I can't find the post that answers this, but I thought I remember hearing that we would hear about someone being attacked but being saved.

[Joe]

What was said above is as good reasoning as any I've seen thus far. And I voted for him last time before changing my vote, so:

I Vote Airhog

[Mustang]

I would think you'd see something like this, "Person X was seen at breakfast but in horrible shape, chances are he will be in bed the rest of the day and not be voting."


I would hope that we would see something like this. Inactivity breeds suspicion so, just a lack of vote would raise some eyebrows.

Airhog says Neuqua is going to be killed and then no kill? Make sense for the bodyguard to guard Neuqua in case the wolves were setting up Airhog. Of course, that just seems all too obvious but, would account for no killings yet.

We either have a really good bodyguard, some extra wolves running around or some really lazy or cunning wolves running around.

[Peregrine]

Yes, you would be notified if the doctor saved someone.

[Desnudo]

Which raises the question, assuming Nequa was the one protected and the wolves tried to eat him, was it Airhog that tried to eat him, or is it the wolves are trying to set Airhog up? It does seem interesting that Airhog says Nequa is going to get eaten, then no one dies. However, it seems crazy to announce who you're going to eat ahead of time, even as a joke. I'd like to hear what he has to say.

[Airhog]

I can assure you, if you lynch me, I will not die!

[TazFTW]

The Duke?

[KWhit]

I can assure you, if you lynch me, I will not die!
Huh?

[KWhit]

Oh yeah. Forgot about the Duke.

He's already said he's the werewolf. Now he's claiming he's the Duke??

[Airhog]

Because you cannot kill a werewolf! :P

[Mustang]

However, it seems crazy to announce who you're going to eat ahead of time, even as a joke. I'd like to hear what he has to say.

Does seem crazy and risky and high unlikely... which then again is the perfect time to do that. Of course, this comes from a person that thought BrianD was lying about being a seer in the last game. :D

[Lathum]

Perhaps Airhog did try to eat Neuqua and he was the cursed one. It would make sense for no one being eatin and now there is one more werewolf? For now I am sticking with my vote for Airhog, but I may need to rethink it.

[Joe]

Can the Duke save himself? That wasn't addressed in the rules.

[KWhit]

I already said I didn't think Airhog was a WW. But now he's just starting to bug me. It is plausible though that he is the duke. That might have given him the stones to come out and say he was a WW, just to mess with us.

Hmmmm....

[Peregrine]

Yes, the Duke can save himself. That should have been in the role explanation but I may have left it out, I'll edit it back in.

[Airhog]

Im not the duke, Im just the brutal wolf.

[Joe]

Im not the duke, Im just the brutal wolf.


then you can be killed.

[Fonzie]

Im not the duke, Im just the brutal wolf.
You have an intriguing strategy, Airhog.

[Mustang]

You are the Duke of Hawthorne Manor! You are A number one!!



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[KWhit]

You have an intriguing strategy, Airhog.
But I don't think it's going to work.

[BrianD]

I have no idea what Airhog is playing at, but he seems crazy enough.

I vote Airhog

[Peregrine]

It's funny because I was kicking around a role, which I decided not to use this game, called the Lunatic, which was a person driven crazy by the stresses of werewolves and being lynched. Maybe Airhog broke into my notes! ;)

[Mustang]

You have an intriguing strategy, Airhog.

Sure asking to be killed... why, I have noooo idea. :confused:


follow up - Although, maybe he did break into Peregrine's notes. Sure would explain alot. :D

[KWhit]

It's funny because I was kicking around a role, which I decided not to use this game, called the Lunatic, which was a person driven crazy by the stresses of werewolves and being lynched. Maybe Airhog broke into my notes! ;)
Hehe.

Now that would be a fun role to have!

[Airhog]

Einnie, Minnie, Miney, Mo,
Catch a Dukie by the Toe,
If you lynch him he will say,
Tis not the duke who'll die today.

He might just point at one of you,
Since you fingered him with much ado,
It wont be long before your dead,
And the Duke will sleep soundly in his bed.

[KWhit]

Einnie, Minnie, Miney, Mo,
Catch a Dukie by the Toe,
If you lynch him he will say,
Tis not the duke who'll die today.

He might just point at one of you,
Since you fingered him with much ado,
It wont be long before your dead,
And the Duke will sleep soundly in his bed.
I think your rhythm is a little off.

[Airhog]

Hey its kind hard for a crazy wolf pretending to be the duke to write poems

[Desnudo]

Going through the thread there are some interesting posts:

If there were bodyguards and an attempted killing, Just stating the choices that would have some logic to them to be protected and that I could state a case for. Anyone else would just be too random and wily nily to have both the bodyguards and wolf pick. There is absolutely no reason to have picked say.. Airhog by both the bodyguard & wolf because there is no history there..

Just throwing that out there if you subscribe to the No Killings is because of protection.

And later

For a lack of posting and taking someone else spot I vote Airhog

I stated that several posts ago I would follow this 'logic'.

I vote Airhog

Although, there are a few well reasoned out posts in here that might sway me to jump on the bandwagon.

I find it odd that NoMyths is a little too happy over Shorty getting all the attention, hmm.. I think most people are a little apprehensive about ending someone's game this early... He is just toooooo giddy.. :D If Airhog comes around, my vote will swing to NoMyths...


Odd that Airhog's name comes up so early in a random post. Maybe just a coincidence.

[Mustang]

Well, the way I figure it right now is either Airhog is potentially a Werewolf or the Duke...

If he is the Duke and we do lynch him, he will get pretty much a random shot in the dark to kill a Werewolf. Bad thing is, if he is the duke... and chooses poorly that means it has outted him, killed another villager and will allow the werewolves to kill a separate villager tonight. Thats a swing of 3 villagers (2 dead, 1 known and with his special powers gone..)

If you are the Duke Airhog, hope you are reallllllly sure of what you are doing. Just seems like a wasted opportunity...

[Airhog]

Do you hope that I am really sure of what I am doing if I am the werewolf?

[BrianD]

There is a part of me that wonders if Airhog is either the Sorcerer or a Cultist trying to make sure we lynch him and not a wolf. It is a good way to help the wolves, though he wouldn't be able to claim a win if he is dead.

[Mustang]

Odd that Airhog's name comes up so early in a random post. Maybe just a coincidence.

I just threw a name in as an example of a person that it wouldn't make sense for the bodyguard to protect the first night because there was no history of anyone else other than those that played the first game.

Plus, I stated that I would pick someone that wasn't active.. which, at the time was Airhog.

[Desnudo]

It seems a little early to pull out that strategy though

edit: meaning BrianD's

[korme]

Perhaps the wolves tried to eat Airhog but he turned into the cursed wolf. Now maybe he is trying to sabotage the wolves by having them lose their new wolf.

Or maybe he's fucked up

[Mustang]

Now maybe he is trying to sabotage the wolves by having them lose their new wolf.

Not sure what the point of playing would be then to mess everyone up and cause your side to potentially lose? :confused:

[Airhog]

Here is every post I have made so far, for easy reference ;)


You know some of us do have jobs I havent even been on until 5 minutes ago. Nice to see people voting for me only on the basis of that 1 item. Of course, this early in the game you are really just shooting blanks here. I havent had time to properly read this thread so I am witholding a vote for now, besides I need to go cook some huma...err chicken for dinner.

Personally I dont think the werewolf would be so vocal in the beginning. I think the werewolf would be someone that would join the bandwagon so to speak. They want to try to draw the least amount of attention to themselves. Also, I dont think the wolves would vote for the same person unless that person was already getting alot of vote.

I knew Shorty wasn't a werewolf. However someone had to be lynched this first day without any sort of clues to go on. It's really a coin toss as to who to choose. No hard feelings Desnudo. I didnt vote for you to be lynched because I thought you were a werewolf, so much as a didnt think Shorty or Nomyths was one. I guess I could have abstained from the vote, but that might have been construed as being suspicious.

Because im the werewolf!

Yeah, and I plan on eating Neuqua next!

I am not a werewolf. I may be a hunter, a seer, an bodyguard, a werewolf, but I am not a porn star.

I can't wait to see who gets killed tonight

Most interesting, maybe someone has a secret angel watching above them. Either that, or one of the bodyguards chose to protect the one who should have been eaten. Interesting indeed.

I can assure you, if you lynch me, I will not die!

Because you cannot kill a werewolf! :P

Im not the duke, Im just the brutal wolf.

Einnie, Minnie, Miney, Mo,
Catch a Dukie by the Toe,
If you lynch him he will say,
Tis not the duke who'll die today.

He might just point at one of you,
Since you fingered him with much ado,
It wont be long before your dead,
And the Duke will sleep soundly in his bed.

Hey its kind hard for a crazy wolf pretending to be the duke to write poems

Do you hope that I am really sure of what I am doing if I am the werewolf?

[korme]

My line of thinking there is he originally would have then been on the villagers side, and would want them to still win

[BrianD]

It seems a little early to pull out that strategy though

edit: meaning BrianD's

I agree. I'm just trying to make sense of what he is doing.

[Joe]

I agree. I'm just trying to make sense of what he is doing.


Yeah... good luck with that.

[Mustang]

I think my headache just came back. :(

I've been battling this one all day.. I'll log back on later to see what other roles Airhog is...

[Desnudo]

I agree. I'm just trying to make sense of what he is doing.

It is the only explaination that makes sense so far.

[KWhit]

That string of gibberish (Airhog's posts) doesn't help his cause, IMO.

[Airhog]

Q: Mommy, why do all the other Kids call me a Werewolf?
A: Stop talking and brush your face!

Q: What gift did the werewolf parents give to their son?
A: A comb !

Q: What happened when the wolf fell in the washing machine ?
A: He became a wash and werewolf !

Q: What happened to the werewlf who ate garlic ?
A: His bark was worse than his bite !

Q: Who are some of the werewolves cousins ?
A: The whatwolves and whenwolves !

Q: Where does the werewolf sit in the cinema ?
A: Anywhere he wants to !

Q: What do you get if you cross a werewolf and a frog ?
A: A creature that can bite you from the other side of the road !

Q: How do you know if a werewolf's been in the fridge ?
A: The paw prints in the butter !

Q: How do you know if two werewolves have been in the fridge ?
A: Two pairs of paw prints in the butter !


Q: What does it mean if you find a werewolf in the fridge in the morning ?
A: You had some party the night before !

Q: How do you stop a werewolf chasing you ? A: Throw a stick and say fetch !

Q: What do you get if you cross a hairdresser and a werewolf ?
A: A creature with an all over perm !

Q: What happened when the werewolf swallowed a clock ?
A: He got ticks !

Q: Why shouldn't you grab a werewolf by it's tail ?
A: It might be the werewolf's tail but it could be the end of you !

Q: Why are werewolvse thought of as quick witted ?
A: Because they always give snappy answers !

Q: Why did the parents call their child "Camera" ?
A: Because they were always snapping !

Q: What do you call a hairy beast with clothes on ?
A: A wear-wolf !

Q: What do you call a hairy beast that is lost ?
A: A where-wolf !

Q: What happens if you cross a werewolf and a sheep ?
A: You have to get a new sheep !

Q: What is fearsome, hairy and drinks from the wrong side of a glass ?
A: A werewolf with hiccups !

Q: What do you call an extinct hairy beast ?
A: A were-wolf !

Q: What do you call a dentist who cleans a werewolf's teeth?
A: CRAZY!!!!!

Q: What kind of monster is washing machine safe?
A: A wash and wear wolf

[korme]

I can't wait for Airhog to get lynched just so I can see what role he has been playing.

[Jon]

I was informed by Comcast that my internet is going to go down for an alleged upgrade this evening and should be back by tomorrow. I don't know who I'll be voting for, but, just in case, I'll vote for Airhog .

[Airhog]

I vote Nequa

I wasnt able to eat him, but I can try to give him a good old fashioned lynching. Then I'll eat him when no-one is looking!

[BrianD]

Is anyone else going to be seriously annoyed if we find out that Airhog didn't have a reason for his oddness and he is just fucking around?

[Desnudo]

Maybe The Afoci hacked his account

[Airhog]

Some people are playing this game to win. Other people are playing this game just to eat some humans. You decide which one I am doing

[KWhit]

I Vote Airhog

[Airhog]

oooh, 3 for me and none for you!

[Qwikshot]

Airhog must be a Malkavian Vampire, I just know it.

I loved all the jokes.

I just watched "Young Frankenstein" last night and I was thinking about the game when they went into the whole werewolves bit.

[wolf howl]

Inga (Terri Garr): Werewolf?! (frightened)

Frederick (Gene Wilder): Werewolves? (incredulously)

Igor (Marty Feldman): [pointing] There wolf.


I don't know Airhog's ploy, I'm amused by it, but unsure what to think about it. He definately is gaining the attention and thus keeping attention from other suspects at bay, but who do we really have as other suspects?

My whole Shorty in cahoots with BrianD theory was shot to hell once Shorty turned up human.

Sorry Shorty.

[Qwikshot]

Btw I just watched the Thing tonight and I thought about the whole concept of paranoia and the game we're playing (plus last game they had some images from the movie).

In that movie, I still wonder if at the end MacReady and Childs face off, die, or actually survive (very slim). I've often wondered if Childs is an alien at the end, just resigned to the fact that they're both going to die.

I wonder more how the hell Kurt Russell would wear that hat.

[condors]

I vote airhog

i want to see what role he is if not a werewolf

[Peregrine]

Qwikshot, The Thing is definitely THE classic "Werewolf" movie. Paranoia, lynching, shapechanging bad guys, etc.

[Mustang]

I vote airhog

i want to see what role he is if not a werewolf

I think alot of people are curious. I'd love to hear other theories but, seems everyone went from the mob rules mentality to curiousity killed the cat mentality.. (so to speak)

I vote Airhog

[Fonzie]

I'm very skeptical of Airhog's ploy, but I'll keep my reasons to myself since I'm not playing. :)

[Lathum]

I'm very skeptical of Airhog's ploy, but I'll keep my reasons to myself since I'm not playing. :)
Who wouldn't be?

[TazFTW]

Vote tally

Airhog - 10 (TazFTW, KevinNU7, Eaglesfan27, NoMyths, Lathum, George W Bush, BrianD, KWhit, condors, Mustang)

Neuqua - 1 (Airhog)

[ntndeacon]

I vote for Airhog

I am confused about which role could benifit from drawing the attention his way this early.

[Peregrine]

I'll throw out the idea of carrying out an early lynching, since it's very obvious who it's going to be. I don't usually like the idea of lynching before the deadline (though it is done in some games) but since it's already 11 votes for Airhog and no one shows any signs of changing their votes I'm open to the option if people want to do it.

[condors]

early lynching!

[Mustang]

I'll throw out the idea of carrying out an early lynching, since it's very obvious who it's going to be. I don't usually like the idea of lynching before the deadline (though it is done in some games) but since it's already 11 votes for Airhog and no one shows any signs of changing their votes I'm open to the option if people want to do it.

In Airhog's defense, I wouldn't do it too early just in case there are people that change their mind. Plus, it might not matter to do it early if the roleplayers are thinking they need to come back on later tonight so, we still might be delayed.

[Peregrine]

In Airhog's defense, I wouldn't do it too early just in case there are people that change their mind. Plus, it might not matter to do it early if the roleplayers are thinking they need to come back on later tonight so, we still might be delayed.

Yeah I will wait for some more votes to be cast in any case, there are several non-voters still so another bandwagon could form.

[Airhog]

It doesnt look good for ole Airhog. If its not a lynching, then I am sure I will be eaten this next night. So lets just see how this plays out.

[Airhog]

Im surprised none of my furry friends have came to help me. Why havent you tried to sway the vote yet? Do you really want to give one of your own yet? Sure I may have been cursed, and I am kinda new at this whole eating people thing. But don't leave me to be hanged!

[Qwikshot]

I really don't think it's Airhog.

I worry that if Airhog is the duke, he will randomly pick one of the accusers and put him to the rope.

I worry that if Airhog is the wolf, then I will be accused for helping subvert from voting him dead.

I worry that if I don't believe Airhog is a wolf, and vote for someone else, that I may raise ire with the person I have voted to lynch be it wolf, duke, etc...

So many choices, so little time. So many risks...

On top of all that I may be eaten tonight regardless...

[Qwikshot]

As a side note, real life is calling me...I will be at a birthday party after 12:30 PM E.S.T.

I should be back before votes are cast, I want to read through before making a final decision.

But this will verify my need to be inactive for a bit.

[jeff061]

I am going to have to try and get in on this next time. This looks like my kind of fun.

[Airhog]

On an interesting side note. If I am the duke, and I choose someone else to die in my place, who will it be?

[McSweeny]

ok well i'm going to be gone all day and back pretty late tonight

so i'll go with the mob

Vote Airhog

[Desnudo]

Since I can't see any argument to vote for someone else, Vote Airhog

[Airhog]

I applaud you all. I firmly believe that I am cursed with lycanthropy. I also believe that Neuqa isnt one of the furry creatures. I know, because I tried to have him eaten last night, but there was a bodyguard in front of his door! I hope he doesnt take it personally, but all's fair in love, war and werewolf hunting. BriainD has been pretty vocal. I said it once, and I will say it again, I dont believe the werewolfs would single out someone different than the bandwagon, unless one of there own was under the gun. So I dont believe that Shorty, neuqua, or BriainD are werewolfs. Nomyths might be a werewolf. GWB and KevinNU7 are definately not werewolfs. So this is where I am at right now. Based on Mustangs tell, I also dont think he is a werewolf. Swaggs has been totally inactive. He hasnt even been on since the 24th. He also said he would be out of town, but he didnt pop the first vote on Shorty. I think swaggs has a speical role but im not too sure which role it is.

Unlikely to be a werewolf
Shorty
Neuqua
BrianD
KevinNU7
GWB
Mustang

Possible Werewolfs
Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW
Qwikshot
ntndeacon
McSweeny
Kwhit
Condors
Eaglesfan
Desnudo
Lathum

[Lathum]

Well that is brilliant, youve narrowed the field of possible werewolves down to 2/3 of the players.

[Airhog]

now, with all that being said I think it is finally time to change my vote to who I firmly believe is a werewolf.

I unvote Neuqa
I vote TazFTW

Now you guys can either A. Vote for me believe I am a werewolf
B. Change your vote and vote for someone else.
C. Vote for me believing I am the duke. If that is the case, my vote should let you know who will be taking my place tonight :)

[jeff061]

Razzie or Oscar, I can't decide ;).

[NoMyths]

now, with all that being said I think it is finally time to change my vote to who I firmly believe is a werewolf.

I unvote Neuqa
I vote TazFTW

Now you guys can either A. Vote for me believe I am a werewolf
B. Change your vote and vote for someone else.
C. Vote for me believing I am the duke. If that is the case, my vote should let you know who will be taking my place tonight :)How would voting for someone else help us out? If you're Cursed, then getting rid of you kills off one of the wolves...keeping you around wouldn't. Voting for Taz wouldn't guarantee that we kill a wolf, whereas voting for you almost certainly does. I just don't see the benefit in keeping a 99% certain wolf for another chance. Besides, we can check on Taz tonight to find out if he's a wolf, unless a better candidate comes along.

[ntndeacon]

If Airhog is cursed, We won't know that until the end of the game, will we. For all we kknow we have already gotten rid of a Cursed person when we lynched Shorty. Of course I am assuming that we get theidentity of the person that was sent to them. And since Cursed folks got something saying they are villagers wouldn't they appear as villagers?

[Fouts]

Fun read. Good play by Airhog, assuming he has ousted a ww. If he hasn't, then he peaked too early!

[TazFTW]

That would be correct, if I remember it right. You only see two deaths, a villager or a werewolf. If a villager had a role, it would not be shown.

I don't care if Airhog is the Duke. If he uses his power to kill me then he will kill an innocent villager and the wolves will know Airhog is someone to eat.

[Airhog]

hmm maybe nomyths is the seer/ He is 99% sure that I am a wolf. I wonder if he watched me last night while I was trying to eat Neuqua

[Swaggs]

Sweet. Back in town and just did the most reading that I have done since college. :)

[KevinNU7]

Can we get this lynching over with already?

[Mustang]

I don't care if Airhog is the Duke. If he uses his power to kill me then he will kill an innocent villager and the wolves will know Airhog is someone to eat.

Unfortunately, I have to believe one of two things that I believed yesterday. Either Airhog wants us to believe he is the Duke and that Taz will be killed tonight if he is indeed the Duke and we lynch him therefore changing votes to kill Taz but, the bad thing is.. what if Airhog is a wolf trying to get us to do that?

Worst case, we could have an absolutely horrific turn of events happen if Airhog is just a normal villager and Taz is a normal villager and we swap votes... Taz would be lynched, Airhog would probably be left alone and STILL be a suspect and probably left alone by the wolves and then we start all over tomorrow with Airhog still a suspect.

Unfortunately, I feel like I'm voting for Airhog to avoid the worst case scenario in my head as opposed to if I believe he is a werewolf or not...

If my thinking is all messed up.. someone please correct me.. still have what... 4 hours to straighten this all up. :confused:

[KevinNU7]

He said he was a werewolf. Why even stress out about it? If he is the Duke he will have us lynhc someone else and then the werewolves will kill him tonight. If he is a werewolf we are fine. If he is jsut a villager then he is a moron and probably just didn't want to play this game anymore

[Peregrine]

That would be correct, if I remember it right. You only see two deaths, a villager or a werewolf. If a villager had a role, it would not be shown.

Special roles are also shown after death, it would be too confusing otherwise. Of course the Cursed is a special role where even the person who is cursed doesn't realize it unless they are killed by a werewolf, if they are lynched they would appear as a normal villager.

[Mustang]

probably just didn't want to play this game anymore

Sometimes, the simplest option is probably the correct one.

[TazFTW]

Special roles are also shown after death, it would be too confusing otherwise. Of course the Cursed is a special role where even the person who is cursed doesn't realize it unless they are killed by a werewolf, if they are lynched they would appear as a normal villager.
Ahh. I stand corrected. I could have sworn you said something about not revealing the roles at the end of the first thread.

[Peregrine]

There was some discussion about that but I decided to reveal in this game. No-reveal is still an option for future games, though it makes things a lot trickier. There's a lot more of people pretending to be one role or another.

[weinstein7]

I'm just lurking, but here's my theory about Airhog:

He's the sorceror.

He's already identified the seer, so he figures his work is done. If he can put the seer under suspicion, then he'll make the wolves' job that much easier.

Another possibility is that he's the hunter, and wants to make sure he gets a chance to kill somebody.

[Airhog]

The possiblities are mind boggling :D

[Airhog]

I think mustang makes a good case. I have chosen the path to walk down. Who said I wasnt enjoying this? Can you people not fathom that this is just a game and I'm having fun? Or maybe you people arent having any fun :D

[korme]

My take: Airhog played the werewolf card to get a better idea on everyone else. The werewolves are like "WTF? Oh well, easy villager kill". I mean if he was a werewolf, the others wouldn't be like "Oooh, good idea! Let's waste one of our few players!"

I think Airhog is not a werewolf, just my 2 cents.

[KWhit]

Airhog:

Why do you think Taz is a WW? What did I miss (or forget)?

[Peregrine]

Final lynching will be at 11 pm EST, the night turn players can send me their actions ahead of time if they want to speed things up a bit.

[Airhog]

I think by now, it is indeed obvious that I am not a werewolf. I would have never intentionally tried to get myself lynched if I was, that would be a disservice to the other wolves.

[Airhog]

March me to the gallows fellows, I am ready to die!

[jeff061]

What is the starting Villager:Wolf ratio? Is there a set one?


I've found this entire Airhog situation quite entertaining :). I've formed my opinions, but I'm going to stay out of it.

[Airhog]

We dont know, in a normal game the ratio is 2 wolves. however there could be as many as 4 wolves.

[Desnudo]

Yes, it's obvious you're enjoying it, since you have the most, and the longest, posts of anyone. But if I'm to change my vote, I need more information on why I should. BTW, good job on figuring out that Shorty isn't a wolf, seeing as how he's dead. ;)

If you're a good guy, then why not come clean? I'm sure the bodyguard or doctor would protect you if that's the case.

[Neuqua]

Just for fun:

I vote Airhog

Next time leave me alone! :)

[Qwikshot]

I don't think Airhog is a wolf.
I don't think Airhog is the seer.

Vote Neuqua

Simply because I don't want to go with the flow.

[Swaggs]

I vote for Airhog

[BrianD]

I don't think Airhog is a wolf.
I don't think Airhog is the seer.

Vote Neuqua

Simply because I don't want to go with the flow.

I think you are right, but considering how much he has distracted everyone from trying to find the real wolves, I think we'd be better off without him anyway.

[Airhog]

Watchout Qwikshot, they might turn on you next. Especially when I turn into a wolf after I die! Besides Neuqua wasnt a wolf, although he might have been the cursed one. Someone protected him last night. Dont thank me for it.

[Airhog]

T-minus 1:30 and counting. The suspense is killing me... Literally

[Qwikshot]

Watchout Qwikshot, they might turn on you next. Especially when I turn into a wolf after I die! Besides Neuqua wasnt a wolf, although he might have been the cursed one. Someone protected him last night. Dont thank me for it.

I don't believe you are a wolf, unless you are the cursed. They may turn on me next but I know I'm not a wolf, turkey, or real estate salesman.

And Neuqua take heart, I only picked you because no one else has, I know you are safe at least from a lynching.

[Eaglesfan27]

Should be time to get some answers soon (hopefully.)

[Lathum]

Peregrine is online...

[Joe]

i don't think everyone voted though, does it matter?

[Fonzie]

Peregrine is online...
And he's viewing this thread.http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif

[Peregrine]

The decision is made early today, and many people busy themselves with food gathering from the garden, though several watch Airhog's drunken antics and poetry during the day. At the end of the day everyone gathers to get ready for the inevitable with Airhog. As people surround him, he stands up and launches into a drunken speech about how he can't be a werewolf, and how he has proof. He reveals his noble medallion and papers that reveal him as the Duke! The mob grudgingly agrees that he is indeed who he says he is, and when Airhog points towards TazFTW, everyone quickly turns towards him. Taz's eyes go wide as he realizes what's going on, and he starts stammering "But I'm...I'm not..." until there is the loud pop of a pistol shot and the stink of gunpowder smoke fills the air. Taz's body collapses near the fireplace, shot in the head. Unfortunately, TazFTW was an innocent villager.

Airhog - 16 (TazFTW, KevinNU7, Eaglesfan27, NoMyths, Lathum, George W Bush, BrianD,Jon, KWhit, condors, Mustang, ntndeacon, Desnudo, McSweeny, Neuqua, Swaggs)

TazFTW - 1 (Airhog)

Neuqua - 1 (Qwikshot)


Night Turn 3

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
Airhog - Duke
NoMyths
Qwikshot
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD
Condors
Eaglesfan
GWB
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

Send in your night turn actions if you haven't already

[Lathum]

i don't think everyone voted though, does it matter?
I dunno, the deadline is passed

[Airhog]

Well, Im boned

[NoMyths]

Innnnnnnteresting.

[Joe]

it makes a little more sense now

[Eaglesfan27]

Very interesting.

[BrianD]

it makes a little more sense now

It does? Airhog wanted to get lynched so he could use his Duke powers, but all we gained was a dead villager. Did you really think Taz was a wolf?

[Lathum]

Wow, what a turn of events

[Airhog]

Yes I did. Besides, you should never call out nobility. Although, I now wish I had gone with my second choice, but if I live to see the light of tomorrow, I will set my sights upon a new target.

[Barkeep49]

To me the only way Airhog's antics made sense, that is an attempt to get lynched, was if he was the Seer and had successfully identified a vampire. But even if that had been true this would be one of the more "interesting" tactics I've seen in a game like this.

[weinstein7]

Look at it from Airhog's point of view.

You know he's not a wolf, so there's no reason to lynch him (except spite).

The wolves know he's not a threat, so there's no reason to eat him.

Selfish, but clever.

[Fonzie]

Oops.

[BrianD]

I guess now Airhog is pretty safe for quite a while. Since he is now the same as a regular villager, we aren't going to lynch him....again. The wolves have no reason to eat him because eating a seer, doctor, or bodyguard would serve them better. I think Airhog played us to grant himself safety.

[Airhog]

Now the biggest question left unanwsered is Nequa a werewolf now? Or did the bodyguard prevent him from being eaten?

[Joe]

It does? Airhog wanted to get lynched so he could use his Duke powers, but all we gained was a dead villager. Did you really think Taz was a wolf?

I didn't think Taz was a wolf. But like someone else said earlier, maybe being the Duke gave Airhog the stones to act like he did.

[Airhog]

I personally think the wolves will eat me tonight. They can eat me and no-one will know who stood out, since only everyone voted for me. Seems like a safe move to me. Unless like someone posted above, they feel like they should try to eat someone that isnt a villager.

[BrianD]

Now the biggest question left unanwsered is Nequa a werewolf now? Or did the bodyguard prevent him from being eaten?

Why do we think the wolves tried to attack Neuqua?

[Airhog]

Because I called him out and said I was going to eat him. I find the odds way to random that a bodyguard just happened to randomly pick someone, and the wolves randomly picked the same person...

[Airhog]

I think the wolves felt like if they ate nequa everyone would know I was a werewolf and lynch me giving them a free villager lynched. My goal was to then get someone to present himself and I could lynch the wolf. However, I erred in judgement and selected a villager.

[BrianD]

Interesting. Seems a little early to try that game, but I can see the logic behind it. I guess we'll have to see who dies tonight and figure out who to go after tomorrow.

[TazFTW]

Well, Im boned
Idiot.

[Qwikshot]

I think that it would be a poor decision for the wolves to go after Airhog, he's now no longer a threat to anyone (except Taz, poor Taz).

Still, he gave enough away that I felt not the slightest bit interested in voting to lynch him and thus get a retribution lynching. It would be my luck to not get eaten only to die by the rope.

I guess Airhog should've played that he was the duke in a better fashion, enough for the bodyguards to defend him, but not enough that through sheer paranoia everyone would be out to lynch him.

Things will be more interesting come tomorrow, if one of us doesn't make it through the night.

[Mustang]

Well, guess that was the plan all along for Airhog, to get lynched and pull out the Duke card... guess it makes kinda sense now. Guess the Duke thing is like a timeout in the NFL.. can't save them up and if the wolves got him it would have went to waste. (Only can use it on lynchings right?). Still seemed like too risky a chance but, it will be interesting to see how this is used in subsequent games...

On antother note, I think that happened to Desnudo last game where the wolves took him out and everyone was thinking BrianD did it guess the same scenario with Neuqua..

[Mustang]

i don't think everyone voted though, does it matter?

Who didn't vote?

[Mustang]

Who didn't vote?

Nevermind, looks like everyone voted. There were 18 people left with 18 votes..

[Swaggs]

This game needs to be made into a major motion picture.

[Eaglesfan27]

Actually, I think it would be a good choice for the wolves to eat Airhog. We aren't going to lynch him because we know he is a human. Since, he is a free pass on the lynching phase of things that increases the chances that we will stumble upon a wolf with our lynching. However, if they kill him they eliminate our only sure thing and create more confusion thereby increasing their chance for survival.

[Mustang]

This game needs to be made into a major motion picture.

I think we are all in agreement that it has.. it's called 'The Thing'. :D

Speaking of motion pictures, would be interesting seeing if there were rules adapted for this game for Star Wars and for Lord of the Rings. For Star Wars, you could have a group of people trying to weed out the Sith and for Lord of the Rings, a few Ringwraiths trying to find the ringbearer . . .

Having said that, I'm going off to play Guild Wars for a bit.. check to see if the night turn is done before I go to bed. Anyone else feel like we are starting over on day one? :confused:

[Peregrine]

Just a note, I've gotten some complaints about the number of posts by people who are watching the thread but not playing. I don't have a problem with people making an occasional minor post, but it's definitely unfair to have them doing a lot of analysis since they just help the villagers and can't be killed since they're not playing. So keep lurking and chip in with some humor or whatever all you want, but try to keep the actual analysis to a minimum, thanks!

[Airhog]

Nomyths: Still 99% sure that I'm a wolf? I think you were 99% sure I wasn't the wolf since you are either the wolf, or the sorcerer

[TazFTW]

Just a note, I've gotten some complaints about the number of posts by people who are watching the thread but not playing. I don't have a problem with people making an occasional minor post, but it's definitely unfair to have them doing a lot of analysis since they just help the villagers and can't be killed since they're not playing. So keep lurking and chip in with some humor or whatever all you want, but try to keep the actual analysis to a minimum, thanks!
Does this include the recently deceased?

[Lathum]

Nomyths: Still 99% sure that I'm a wolf? I think you were 99% sure I wasn't the wolf since you are either the wolf, or the sorcerer
And it begins again.

[NoMyths]

Nomyths: Still 99% sure that I'm a wolf? I think you were 99% sure I wasn't the wolf since you are either the wolf, or the sorcererUm, with Taz's body still warm on the floor, I'm not so sure that your deductive abilities are the best ones to follow. :)

I said I was 99% sure after two pages of you posting that you were. Obviously you were lying, and I fell for it. If I were a wolf, I would have known you weren't one and if I were a sorcerer I'd have wanted to target a non-wolf. I was one of the first to take you at your word. Since I'm not the one with the history of lying in this game, I'll not worry to much about your accusation. I can't say I'm not a wolf any clearer than I've already said it.

[Eaglesfan27]

Does this include the recently deceased?
Yeah. Dead people don't talk ;)

[NoMyths]

And in the interest of rooting out the actual wolves: my gut feeling is that we need to take a closer look at the folks who've been playing quiet games. Obviously being vocal has put me under the microscope...I'm looking more closely at the folks who've been keeping their cards close to the vest.

[Lathum]

I agree, not to mention I figured there would be a kill by now. Maybe one of the wolves isn't around to cast their vote?

Airhog guarenteed himself more time. I am looking forward to see how that strategy plays out.

[Peregrine]

Speaking of motion pictures, would be interesting seeing if there were rules adapted for this game for Star Wars and for Lord of the Rings. For Star Wars, you could have a group of people trying to weed out the Sith and for Lord of the Rings, a few Ringwraiths trying to find the ringbearer . . .


Mustang, if you're interested in reading some REALLY long games, here are the BGG threads for the movies you're talking about. The LOTR one already has 1200 posts and it's only Day 4. Star Wars has 1400 but at least it's over ;)

LOTR
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geekforum.php3?action=viewthread&threadid=68805

Star Wars

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geekforum.php3?action=viewthread&threadid=65401

[Lathum]

Mustang, if you're interested in reading some REALLY long games, here are the BGG threads for the movies you're talking about. The LOTR one already has 1200 posts and it's only Day 4. Star Wars has 1400 but at least it's over ;)

LOTR
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geekforum.php3?action=viewthread&threadid=68805

Star Wars

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geekforum.php3?action=viewthread&threadid=65401
lol, this will give me something to do at work tomorrow.

[ntndeacon]

Actually, I think it would be a good choice for the wolves to eat Airhog. We aren't going to lynch him because we know he is a human. Since, he is a free pass on the lynching phase of things that increases the chances that we will stumble upon a wolf with our lynching. However, if they kill him they eliminate our only sure thing and create more confusion thereby increasing their chance for survival.

A problem with this is that the wolves have not been able to eat anyone yet, especially the cursed (that we know of.) Wouldn't they go after someone who at least has a chance of being something other than a common villager like Airhog is now. I know others have said this too, but it seems to make sense to me.

[Eaglesfan27]

Well basic math would give them a reason to go after airhog. Right now there are 17 of us left and we presumably aren't going to vote to lynch Airhog. Therefore, we have a 1/16 of voting for a werewolf as of this moment. If they eat someone besides Airhog that chance drops down to 1/15 chance of lynching a werewolf. However, if they eat Airhog we will still only have 1/16 chance of getting them. It's not a HUGE difference, but there is a statistical advantage to them going after Airhog. Of course, the bodyguards could protect him in which case it would be a wasted attack. It will be very interesting to see what the Werewolves do.

[Swaggs]

There haven't been any werewolf attacks yet, right?

It would be funny if Peregrine is just messing with us and didn't put any werewolves into this game. :)

[ntndeacon]

If everyone was worth the same I might agree with you Eaglesfan. However some folks are weighted more than others. Eating the seer is mmuch better than eating Airhog. Of course eating the Cultist would be worse for the wolves than eating Airhog. Plus since basic math says pick Airhog, wouldn't the wolves have to be leary of the bodyguard for just that reason. I am not convinced that we will be lucky tonight.

[NoMyths]

There haven't been any werewolf attacks yet, right?

It would be funny if Peregrine is just messing with us and didn't put any werewolves into this game. :)Yeah, either there haven't been any attacks or our bodyguard is doing a damned fine job. If it's option A, that emphasizes the fact that we need to look at folks who have been quiet...seems like they just haven't been around enough to eat anyone. At this point, we've been more dangerous than the wolves have been. :p

[NoMyths]

dola...

Can't sleep because this effing game has got strategerie thoughts running through my head. :)

First off: After some reflection, I think Airhog's strategy was very well played. While his efforts to draw comments out of possible wolves seems to have been ineffective, he still took a free shot at a possible wolf and has set himself up as basically an immune vote--there's no chance he'll be lynched now, as he isn't a wolf, and there's little chance he'll be eaten, as the wolves will want to dine on a role that's more helpful (such as the doctor, seer, or bodyguard). Basically we now have a free vote against the wolves...smartly played, Airhog. Just too bad it didn't pay off in forcing a reveal.

The second thing I've been considering is the role of the seer. While this diminishes my potential somewhat, I'm going to try to help us out a bit: I'm not the seer. Because of this, I've been trying to figure out who might be, so I can look to them for clues...after all, if the seer has hit upon a wolf, he'd be trying to direct us to it subtly, right? Now in considering these things, I want to make sure I don't jeopardize our seer's identity, and so I'm not pointing out who accused who of what. But by reading back over things, a little bit of data revealed itself.

To this end I went back through the thread to see if there were any outstanding votes that jumped out at me. Offhand a couple of things did. A handful of us have been tossing out feelers to try and roust any wolfy comments...myself, BrianD, Condors, and Airhog have been the leaders in that particular group. And a handful of folks haven't said much of anything, and have voted at the last minute -- suspicious to a degree, but certainly forgivable considering the correlation between being vocal and getting lynching attention; these would include folks like ntndeacon, McSweeny, Jon, and Swaggs.

The only outstanding votes and/or suspicions I've seen cast at this point have been the following: a handful of accusations towards Neuqua, Desnudo, and Condors. I'm assuming that after the first night the seer would have viewed me to verify that I wasn't a wolf, considering how the vote went down. With the Airhog strategy the bandwagon gathered steam early, and so the seer might not have been able to point us in the right direction right away...likewise, he wouldn't have burned a view on Airhog, considering that he was a lock to be lynched.

So I guess all of this thinking comes down to this: it's certainly possible that our seer hasn't hit upon a wolf yet, and so we'll have to keep our antenna up for the subtle broadcast. But if he has, we might need to take a closer look at some of the outlying folks...or at the very least hear a little bit more from them.

Lord knows if any of this rambling is useful in helping us to divine who the furries are, but since I've got insomnia, I figured it'd be better to ramble here than in my head.

[Peregrine]

Can't sleep because this effing game has got strategerie thoughts running through my head

I suggest watching The Thing to calm your nerves. ;)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084787/

[NoMyths]

I suggest watching The Thing to calm your nerves. ;)Heh...mostly I'm just chalking it up to the fact that I was in the emergency room until 5:30 am last night with my girlfriend (she seems to be ok, but was a tense evening) and slept into the afternoon...system hasn't adjusted to the time. Glad I'm on a teaching schedule right now rather than an 8-5 job, though. :)

[Peregrine]

Well I'm usually alone on the boards this time of night since I work midnight-8 am. So insomnia is fine with me.

[NoMyths]

Well, at least we're keeping graveyard shift watch over the Carolinas, eh? ;)

Edit: Oh, and since the video store is closed: here's a link to the script (http://www.scifiscripts.com/scripts/TheThing.txt) for The Thing, in case anyone wants to be unnerved.

[Peregrine]

Yeah The Thing is a real classic, it's pretty much the best portrayal of the effects of paranoia on a small, isolated group that I've ever seen.

Charleston is a nice place to be, except in the summer. My brother went to C of C.

[Mustang]

huh.. interesting. Would have expected the next nights moves to have been posted by the time I logged on this morning. Unfortunately, not a whole lotta information that we can glean from this other than someone is slow in getting their nightly moves in.. Have to put it in the mental banks for later in the game. If play suddenly speeds up after a lynching or eating then we could use that information against the wolves. Of course, guess the opposite is true...

Not sure about anyone else but, I'm waiting for this night turn to end so I can make some comments related to Airhog...

[Peregrine]

I'm hesitant to skip the last people I haven't heard from, but I don't want to burn the whole day waiting for them. I'll give them another 45 minutes or so and then post the results.

[KevinNU7]

We need to set PM deadlines, this is getting silly

[Peregrine]

I agree, PM deadlines should be in place. I'll think about what they should be. Probably midnight or something, and if there's a problem, send your action to me earlier, make it conditional if you think you really can't be around.

[condors]

taps foot

[Peregrine]

The night passes slowly, many of you are haunted by strange dreams and spend the night tossing and turning. In the morning, cold sunlight fills the halls of the old manor. You are hungry, and there is not enough food, though there is plenty of wine. The Duke in particular seems to have started his battle with the bottle quite early. He is quite alive, for all his predictions. You count heads and realize that tonight, someone is indeed missing. You travel room to room largely as a group, afraid of what you might find. In one small room, more of a closet than a bedroom, you find the remains of McSweeny, slashed to ribbons. Even worse is you see that his room is filled with scribbled notes and journals, apparently he has been travelling the halls at night, watching. It's painfully obvious that he was the Witness!

Day Turn 3

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
Airhog - Duke
NoMyths
Qwikshot
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness)
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD
Condors
Eaglesfan
GWB
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

Cast your votes by 8 PM EST

[BrianD]

That is a shame, we could have used his talents later. Looks like Airhog's plan worked for him. He isn't worth eating yet.

[jeff061]

You guys give Airhog too much credit :).

[Lathum]

You guys give Airhog too much credit :).
Or not enough. He is still alive and drinking, err, I mean kicking.

[jeff061]

Heh yeah, but I doubt he had this whole thing planned out. He was just having some fun and is probably happy with what he stumbled in to ;).

[Mustang]

Hmm.. anything McSweeny said that could have lead to his being uncovered as a witness or was it just a completely lucky pick for the wolves?

I'd agree, Airhog seemed like the choice to make given that he is really an advantage to us right now as no one will vote for him but, he still has a vote. Was hoping the wolves would come to that conclusion and maybe the witness could get one in the action.. In hindsight, seems the last few nights have had a few targets that were high likely bodyguard/witness types to be viewed. Maybe Neuqua was protected and that pushed the wolves to do something completely random??

[Mustang]

The second thing I've been considering is the role of the seer. While this diminishes my potential somewhat

Odd statement, reduces your potential for??

I'd agree, there is a good chance the seer probably viewed you given the voting the first night. Unfortunately, given the way that the voting went with Airhog the person that was the seer didn't have much of an opportunity to jump ship without drawing attention to themselves.. I know Qwik voted for Neuqua.. trying to tell us something?? Wolves wouldn't have killed off someone that voted different than Airhog would have been way too easy to detect.. especially if Neuqua was a werewolf.. he knows he would be suspect #1...

[BrianD]

Hmm.. anything McSweeny said that could have lead to his being uncovered as a witness or was it just a completely lucky pick for the wolves?

I'd agree, Airhog seemed like the choice to make given that he is really an advantage to us right now as no one will vote for him but, he still has a vote. Was hoping the wolves would come to that conclusion and maybe the witness could get one in the action.. In hindsight, seems the last few nights have had a few targets that were high likely bodyguard/witness types to be viewed. Maybe Neuqua was protected and that pushed the wolves to do something completely random??

I'm guessing McSweeny was a random kill, and it is a pretty good one. There is nothing that points to him, and nobody had a beef with him. Our job didn't get any easier with this one.

[BrianD]

Odd statement, reduces your potential for??

I'd agree, there is a good chance the seer probably viewed you given the voting the first night. Unfortunately, given the way that the voting went with Airhog the person that was the seer didn't have much of an opportunity to jump ship without drawing attention to themselves.. I know Qwik voted for Neuqua.. trying to tell us something?? Wolves wouldn't have killed off someone that voted different than Airhog would have been way too easy to detect.. especially if Neuqua was a werewolf.. he knows he would be suspect #1...

I thought the wolves might go after Qwik because he voted for somebody other than Airhog. It would seem to be a good way to throw suspicion on Neuqua like suspicion was thrown on me last time. I wonder if Neuqua is a wolf and that is why they didn't eat Qwik?

[Lathum]

I'm guessing McSweeny was a random kill, and it is a pretty good one. There is nothing that points to him, and nobody had a beef with him. Our job didn't get any easier with this one.
I agree. I think the thought process was this:

There is pressure on one of the werewolves, maybe they decided to do a random killing as opposed to killing someone who is heading in the right direction. It would definantly cause more confusion and not really give anything away. I'm not ready to accuse anyone just yet though.

[Mustang]

It would seem to be a good way to throw suspicion on Neuqua like suspicion was thrown on me last time. I wonder if Neuqua is a wolf and that is why they didn't eat Qwik?

Possibility.. would account for why Qwik wasn't eaten. Anyone paying attention to the last game would have seen the ramifications of doing that again right away..

[condors]

how do you get the thread stats?

like who posted how much

I am leaning towards those who have said nothing as prime wolf canidates

try and stay below the radar type thing

[Qwikshot]

I was just voting elsewhere because I correctly assumed Airhog to be the duke, and I didn't want to be picked by him as a retaliation hanging...Airhog basically did a shot in the dark and failed, I'm leaning that he really had no idea, it could have been anyone of us.

I don't think Neuqua is a wolf, I've stated that, I picked him because it was the least likely to cause any conflict (as opposed to say, picking someone else whom I had assumptions on).

So the witness is dead before he could witness anything, sucks for the villagers.

But if you guys are that paranoid, you can follow my lead from last vote, and vote Neuqua.

[Lathum]

So the witness is dead before he could witness anything, sucks for the villagers.

slip of the tounge?

[Fonzie]

how do you get the thread stats?

like who posted how much

I am leaning towards those who have said nothing as prime wolf canidates

try and stay below the radar type thing
You get them by clicking on the number listed under the "Replies" column in the main forum.

[Qwikshot]

slip of the tounge?

It is tongue.

And no, I was thinking in relation to werewolves vs villagers.

[Eaglesfan27]

It's a shame that the Wolves got the witness before he could tell us anything useful. In scrolling through our notes (this thread), I don't see any useful information from him. Anyone see anything that we are missing in his notes?

[Peregrine]

The Witness is a one-shot role in terms of witnessing an attack, I just assumed that he would be skulking around the halls the rest of the time. No new information there unfortunately

[Qwikshot]

It's a shame that the Wolves got the witness before he could tell us anything useful. In scrolling through our notes (this thread), I don't see any useful information from him. Anyone see anything that we are missing in his notes?

I think McSweeny was out much this weekend...which could account for his lack of input. Do witnesses get to see after a successful werewolf attack, or any attack?

[Eaglesfan27]

Hmmm, that is suspicious. I and most of my fellow villagers talk about us villagers. However, Quikshot talks about the villagers.. That is suspicious.

[Qwikshot]

I was thinking aloud, I believe in my past statements, I used "us". Take it for what you will, I'm not a wolf.

[KevinNU7]

McSweeny only has 5 posts

[Qwikshot]

Oh it's Qwikshot...I think Quikshot, does an injustice to Quiksand, as I am nowhere near as brilliant as he.

[Lathum]

Oh it's Qwikshot...I think Quikshot, does an injustice to Quiksand, as I am nowhere near as brilliant as he.
spelling police :)

[Qwikshot]

Better to be the spelling police, than the grammar police who I think have a harder job, though both are far better than the fashion police.

Let me repeat

I am not a werewolf.

I knew Airhog was the duke because his hints were hardly subtle.

I know Neuqua is not a werewolf, well, maybe I don't know this for a fact, but I think so, but I could be wrong.

I'm more inclined to think that our furry friends (if there is more than one) are in the quiet.

[Swaggs]

I would also like to proudly proclaim:

I am not a werewolf

(don't be the last) ;)

[Eaglesfan27]

I would also like to proudly proclaim:

I am not a werewolf

(don't be the last) ;)
ROFL :)

[Fonzie]

Better to be the spelling police, than the grammar police who I think have a harder job, though both are far better than the fashion police.
All of which pale incomparison to being the dream police. Now there's a tough job.

[Mustang]

I'm more inclined to think that our furry friends (if there is more than one) are in the quiet.

I'd assume based on the ratios of the last game that there are 3 or 4 starting plus an unknown # of cursed. Worst case scenario, if the first 2 nights were cursed victims, we are looking at 5 or 6 wolves currently??? :eek:

[condors]

I am not a werewolf

but saying your not really doesn't mean anything imho

[Mustang]

All of which pale incomparison to being the dream police. Now there's a tough job.

http://www.musicmerchant.com/07464357731.jpg

[Qwikshot]

Airhog - 16 (TazFTW, KevinNU7, Eaglesfan27, NoMyths, Lathum, George W Bush, BrianD,Jon, KWhit, condors, Mustang, ntndeacon, Desnudo, McSweeny, Neuqua, Swaggs)

TazFTW - 1 (Airhog)

Neuqua - 1 (Qwikshot)

Okay, let's look at this...it's painfully obvious, the furry ones joined the Airhog bandwagon, Airhog made it easy for them, what I find more distressing is that majority of us, villagers also went that way. Everyone is afraid of going against the grain because it implies questioning their motives, my motives are clear and precise.

Taz died as a result of Airhog's deduction (I have yet to forumulate on what grounds Airhog had for this accusation)(edit-motive deduced below, Taz was first to accuse Airhog).

Everyone is saying my voting against the group is dangerous, but if anything, I am proving that I'm not a wolf, the wolf was voting with the majority because it was the easiest way not to gain suspicion, this was our greatest failure as villagers.

While we were all joining in voting Airhog's death, who was the most vocal in doing so?


Taz started the run, and I think that is why Airhog picked him...

Next up was KevinNU7, faulting Airhog's strategy, and then voting for him to be lynched.

Then surprisingly for one who I felt was serious about deduction, Eaglesfan27 joined in. I thought someone like him wouldn't be so apt to go with the flow, unless maybe it was to hide something. He did this a mere 7 minutes after following KevinNU7's lead.
So quick to hang someone.

6 minutes later, NoMyths chimed in, with a rather "go with the majority" rejoinder, he later wrote a long monologue analyzing the choices, but I think that may have simply been a ruse to cover such a quick decision to hang Airhog.

2 minutes later, Lathum picks Airhog, the dominos are falling, everyone is picking Airhog. I concur with his statement, mob mentality is kicking in.

5 minutes later, GWB decides to join in the mob, going with the reasoning that the rantings of a mad duke is enough to do him in.

Rather fast and furious, BrianD finishes up the assualt in the assault on Airhog a few minutes later (I would have to hit the link and thus lose what I wrote).

I think your furry friends are part of this group...I'd bet on it. I'd be very careful with any of them.

[condors]

good stuff Qwikshot

[McSweeny]

well it's a shame i got eaten so early, i was planning on witnessing the next kill so we'd at least have a line on one of the wolves. And yes my lack of participation was due to the fact that i was not around for most of the weekend

[Qwikshot]

good stuff Qwikshot

Are you saying that because you are part of that group :p

Seriously, one or two of those six is a wolf.

Not saying that a wolf could have joined in afterwards, but they were just so fast and furious to do Airhog in and then even afterward when we knew there was a possibility that he was duke, nobody changed their vote. I find that perplexing.

The truth is there, just look at the vote times. You got a wolf in there.

[Fonzie]

well it's a shame i got eaten so early, i was planning on witnessing the next kill so we'd at least have a line on one of the wolves. And yes my lack of participation was due to the fact that i was not around for most of the weekend
Absence makes the heart grow...deader?

[Swaggs]

I think Qwik's reasoning is pretty sound.

That said, part of the reason that everyone piled on Airhog was because some of us believed he may have wanted out of the game. At the time, I hadn't even considered the possibility of him being the Duke, as I wasn't sure the Duke could save himself.