Werewolf II - Flight to Hawthorne Manor

[Qwikshot]

I think Qwik's reasoning is pretty sound.

That said, part of the reason that everyone piled on Airhog was because some of us believed he may have wanted out of the game. At the time, I hadn't even considered the possibility of him being the Duke, as I wasn't sure the Duke could save himself.

True, the game is fairly new, and most did not deduce that, but I did not think Airhog would play to die. I think he was hoping some of us villagers would not vote for him, and try to figure out (possibly by the speed and rapidity of those voting for his death) someone from that six to accuse.

Thus the reasoning he had for accusing Taz, who's only fault was being paranoid enough to accuse him first. Never directly accuse nobility, ever.

But once the idea that he could be duke was brought up, votes didn't change, the train was on it's way, the mob was being whipped into frenzy. And the wolves just smiled and placed their picks on Airhog, because everyone was doing it, except two, and one of those is dead now.

The wolves won another round, shame on us villagers.

[Desnudo]

The benefit of eating Airhog is that he is definitely not a wolf supporter. So basically he's risk free. Of course the wolves probably know that he's an obvious target for the bodyguard and/or doctor, so that might change things.

[Swaggs]

After reading over the roles again, I am intrigued over a few of them.

The Sorcerer may be trying to "out" the Seer right now or the Seer may be trying to "out" the werewolf right now, but it's 50/50 that we lynch the right (or wrong) person. Kind of sticky.

[Desnudo]

True, the game is fairly new, and most did not deduce that, but I did not think Airhog would play to die. I think he was hoping some of us villagers would not vote for him, and try to figure out (possibly by the speed and rapidity of those voting for his death) someone from that six to accuse.

Thus the reasoning he had for accusing Taz, who's only fault was being paranoid enough to accuse him first. Never directly accuse nobility, ever.

But once the idea that he could be duke was brought up, votes didn't change, the train was on it's way, the mob was being whipped into frenzy. And the wolves just smiled and placed their picks on Airhog, because everyone was doing it, except two, and one of those is dead now.

The wolves won another round, shame on us villagers.

The wolves didn't win the round, Airhog wanted to be lynched so he could kill what he thought was a wolf. He got what he wanted. I think his strategy was executed prematurely, but how would you have decided to lynch someone else? There is no evidence pointing to anyone right now.

It was brought up fairly early in the dialogue that he might be the duke, but in the end, I would have voted for him Duke or wolf, over the near given of killing another innocent. I figured he had some insight, which obviously wasn't the case.

[Qwikshot]

The benefit of eating Airhog is that he is definitely not a wolf supporter. So basically he's risk free. Of course the wolves probably know that he's an obvious target for the bodyguard and/or doctor, so that might change things.

Why? Why waste your attacks on someone that is no longer a threat, he's outed, he's used his get out of hanging free card.

In fact, Airhog /helped/ the wolves by killing a hapless villager.

If I was a werewolf, which I am most certainly not I would concentrate on the others, the bodyguards, the doctors, the seer, especially the seer, because he's the one that can do me in. While trying not to eat the sorceror or cultist, (if they are in the game).

My deduction stands, you concentrate on one of those six and you'll find your wolves. Far better odds than guessing from the whole group.

[Qwikshot]

The wolves didn't win the round, Airhog wanted to be lynched so he could kill what he thought was a wolf. He got what he wanted. I think his strategy was executed prematurely, but how would you have decided to lynch someone else? There is no evidence pointing to anyone right now.

It was brought up fairly early in the dialogue that he might be the duke, but in the end, I would have voted for him Duke or wolf, over the near given of killing another innocent. I figured he had some insight, which obviously wasn't the case.

No you are wrong, they /did/ win the round...an innocent was killed, no wolf was found, and /then/ they managed to kill the witness, if that isn't a nice win, I don't know what is (perhaps getting the seer).

Plus, Airhog is now rendered useless, that is the only villager victory, one less person we can implicate as a wolf, but that's hardly a victory when shorty, taz, and mcsweeny are all dead, and 3 to 5 wolves are lurking about. :eek:

[BrianD]

I voted for Airhog mostly because I was annoyed. He was being so crazy and I couldn't figure out a real reason for that ploy. Once talk about him being the Duke came up, I was still too annoyed to think that he had a real strategy. I guess we did fail on that one.

[Desnudo]

Because their ultimate goal is to get rid of all of the villagers. Since you know he is definitely one, and definitely not helping them, it's easy. Maybe they have some insight into who the seer or doctor or bodyguard is, but I haven't seen much that gives anyone's role away to this point. So without evidence, you go back to the obvious choice.

[Qwikshot]

I voted for Airhog mostly because I was annoyed. He was being so crazy and I couldn't figure out a real reason for that ploy. Once talk about him being the Duke came up, I was still too annoyed to think that he had a real strategy. I guess we did fail on that one.

Not to implicate you BrianD, but this will be when we get the "I voted for Airhog because..." rationalizations because now everyone is going to be trying to prove they aren't the wolves. Let's see how quick everyone comes to stating the obvious, that they voted for Airhog because everyone else did.

Notice, I think BrianD is the first of the six to try to defend his voting method.

[Desnudo]

No you are wrong, they /did/ win the round...an innocent was killed, no wolf was found, and /then/ they managed to kill the witness, if that isn't a nice win, I don't know what is (perhaps getting the seer).

Plus, Airhog is now rendered useless, that is the only villager victory, one less person we can implicate as a wolf, but that's hardly a victory when shorty, taz, and mcsweeny are all dead, and 3 to 5 wolves are lurking about. :eek:

Personally I'd like to lynch Airhog for needlessly sacrificing a villager, but I suppose we need live bodies at this point.

The wolves were foiled in their attempt to eat someone (assuming it wasn't the cursed guy), so the round is even. What do you mean about the witness being killed? And how do you know it's 3-5 wolves?

[Qwikshot]

Because their ultimate goal is to get rid of all of the villagers. Since you know he is definitely one, and definitely not helping them, it's easy. Maybe they have some insight into who the seer or doctor or bodyguard is, but I haven't seen much that gives anyone's role away to this point. So without evidence, you go back to the obvious choice.

How is Airhog the obvious choice? Because he was raving? We all know that the wolves wouldn't openly show themselves, when I saw Airhog's posts all I thought was, he's trying to smoke them out, and then I realized he was the duke, he had no fear, he was trying to pull the wolves out, perhaps prematurely, but I think if we look at those six, we may be able to get a crucial kill.

I think the obvious choice was to look at who voted for him even with all the information we were receiving.

[Qwikshot]

Personally I'd like to lynch Airhog for needlessly sacrificing a villager, but I suppose we need live bodies at this point.

The wolves were foiled in their attempt to eat someone (assuming it wasn't the cursed guy), so the round is even. What do you mean about the witness being killed?

McSweeny was eaten, he was the witness, he died before he could witness anything, and thus a critical loss to us, the villagers.

[Qwikshot]

The night passes slowly, many of you are haunted by strange dreams and spend the night tossing and turning. In the morning, cold sunlight fills the halls of the old manor. You are hungry, and there is not enough food, though there is plenty of wine. The Duke in particular seems to have started his battle with the bottle quite early. He is quite alive, for all his predictions. You count heads and realize that tonight, someone is indeed missing. You travel room to room largely as a group, afraid of what you might find. In one small room, more of a closet than a bedroom, you find the remains of McSweeny, slashed to ribbons. Even worse is you see that his room is filled with scribbled notes and journals, apparently he has been travelling the halls at night, watching. It's painfully obvious that he was the Witness!

Day Turn 3

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
Airhog - Duke
NoMyths
Qwikshot
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness)
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD
Condors
Eaglesfan
GWB
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

Cast your votes by 8 PM EST


Here is the latest.

[Desnudo]

How is Airhog the obvious choice? Because he was raving? We all know that the wolves wouldn't openly show themselves, when I saw Airhog's posts all I thought was, he's trying to smoke them out, and then I realized he was the duke, he had no fear, he was trying to pull the wolves out, perhaps prematurely, but I think if we look at those six, we may be able to get a crucial kill.

I think the obvious choice was to look at who voted for him even with all the information we were receiving.

Airhog is the obvious choice because they know he is not an evil helper. You talk about them trying to kill the seer, etc., but don't forget that there are evil helpers out there as well that the wolves don't know the identity of. So they can definitely eliminate a villager who they know is of no use to them.

[Mustang]

The wolves won another round, shame on us villagers.

I warned of the worst case scenario.. that is a wasted Duke opportunity, an innocent dead and then another kill at night... (cost us the witness at that).. Unfortunately, I hoped Airhog knew what he was doing... It is really important to get one right tonight folks otherwise we are another 2 down..

Qwik, maybe I'm reading too much into your statements but, seems your comments are more in line with accusing Eaglesfan/NoMyths.. based on the fact that Eaglesfan went with the flow and you stated NoMyths might have been doing a ruse? I'm still perplexed at why the wolves didn't take you out in potentially setting up Neuqua for a lynching.. probably a whole lotta nothing in my head...

[BrianD]

My deduction stands, you concentrate on one of those six and you'll find your wolves. Far better odds than guessing from the whole group.

Far better odds for you since you didn't put yourself in that group. Truth is, you can't know what the odds are. It is true that the odds are decent that a wolf is in that group. If we are guessing 3-4 wolves and 16 people still in the house, you've got about a .01% chance of guessing wrong on 6 random guesses. Of course if you've managed to isolate only 1 wolf in your deduction, then the odds are better picking from the group as a whole.

I think we need to go back and form our deductions from situation outside of the Airhog affair. His play was so crazy that a bunch of us picked him without thinking about it properly.

[Qwikshot]

Airhog is the obvious choice because they know he is not an evil helper. You talk about them trying to kill the seer, etc., but don't forget that there are evil helpers out there as well that the wolves don't know the identity of. So they can definitely eliminate a villager who they know is of no use to them.

If you say so, if I were to think like a wolf, I'd concentrate on other threats. But seeing as I'm not, I'm at least trying to figure out who they are.

One of those six, I'm telling you, I may not live to say more.

Though you are trying really hard to defend the rationale that Airhog should be dead, but the wolves went after someone else.

[NoMyths]

Notice, I think BrianD is the first of the six to try to defend his voting method.Except of course for myself, who defended it when challenged by Airhog last night. Interesting that you get this wrong, as well as information about my posts from last night in your list of 'suspects'.

It's also interesting to me that just about every post from you except the last one has been overemphasizing words that tie you to villagers...almost all of which protestations followed your 'slip of the tongue.' Then tossing out six names to take the heat off of yourself? Especially considering how quiet you've been up to this point? It's all pretty suspicious.

Still, I'm willing to take you at your word for now, and continue to consider others...speaking up as you've done has gone a ways towards me dropping your name down the list a bit.

[BrianD]

Not to implicate you BrianD, but this will be when we get the "I voted for Airhog because..." rationalizations because now everyone is going to be trying to prove they aren't the wolves. Let's see how quick everyone comes to stating the obvious, that they voted for Airhog because everyone else did.

Notice, I think BrianD is the first of the six to try to defend his voting method.

You realize that a "not to implicate" opening to your post is a bit wasted when you spend the rest of the post implicating. :)

[NoMyths]

Personally I'd like to lynch Airhog for needlessly sacrificing a villager, but I suppose we need live bodies at this point.

The wolves were foiled in their attempt to eat someone (assuming it wasn't the cursed guy), so the round is even. What do you mean about the witness being killed? And how do you know it's 3-5 wolves?dola...

Very good point...I was under the impression that we had two wolves, with possibly someone being Cursed. Pretty specific information for not saying much up to this point.

Not to mention, why would you want to repeat Peregrine's information from last night on this page, rather than having people read page 10? Suspicious indeed.

[Qwikshot]

I believe I was one of the last to vote last time, I read through it all, and took my time, I knew Airhog was not a wolf, and was probably the duke. In not voting for him, I strayed from the mob mentality and voted against someone who I knew would not be harmed.

You want to implicate me of something go ahead, but I went back and checked. Thinking improperly or not one of those six was quickly going with the flow to not be implicated as a wolf.

NoMyths went into a long long discussion with himself and still wound up with the same conclusion, to vote for Airhog.

The equivalent possibly of a murderer crying at his victim's funeral.

That is all I'm saying, I haven't implicated anyone yet; I have implied guilt but not directly accused, I want to see where the discussion leads, I want to hear more from those six.

Everyone is so tight lipped, we have to speak, discuss.

We have to start somewhere, I say start with those six.

[Qwikshot]

Except of course for myself, who defended it when challenged by Airhog last night. Interesting that you get this wrong, as well as information about my posts from last night in your list of 'suspects'.

It's also interesting to me that just about every post from you except the last one has been overemphasizing words that tie you to villagers...almost all of which protestations followed your 'slip of the tongue.' Then tossing out six names to take the heat off of yourself? Especially considering how quiet you've been up to this point? It's all pretty suspicious.

Still, I'm willing to take you at your word for now, and continue to consider others...speaking up as you've done has gone a ways towards me dropping your name down the list a bit.

I'm hardly quiet, I may be the highest poster in this thread.

[Qwikshot]

You realize that a "not to implicate" opening to your post is a bit wasted when you spend the rest of the post implicating. :)

Merely wanted to state now will be the time, since I stated it, that will have spindoctoring on the whole this is why I voted for Airhog.

[BrianD]

If you say so, if I were to think like a wolf, I'd concentrate on other threats. But seeing as I'm not, I'm at least trying to figure out who they are.


I agree with Qwik (as I said last night) that Airhog is probably no longer a target. He is someone the villagers *know* isn't a wolf, but villagers without a special role are less dangerous to the wolves.

[NoMyths]

You've been one of the last to vote both times, and have had little to say until you came under the gun. The text of your posts today has been incredibly suspicious, and the fact that you'd repeat Peregrine's info on this page to keep people from reading much of the accusations or info from the last page makes me more than curious. It makes me almost certain we've rousted a furry.

I'll be first, this time: Qwikshot is scrambling for cover, and trying to scatter his fire in a lot of directions. But everything adds up to him.

I vote Qwikshot

[Qwikshot]

dola...

Very good point...I was under the impression that we had two wolves, with possibly someone being Cursed. Pretty specific information for not saying much up to this point.

Not to mention, why would you want to repeat Peregrine's information from last night on this page, rather than having people read page 10? Suspicious indeed.

I repeated the post on what happened to save Desundo the time because I was posting some long posts.

We've had two botched attacks, maybe they weren't botched, plus the possibility of a brutal wolf?

I'd go with three or four at this point, which is why the Taz/McSweeny deaths are that much more disconcerting.

[Qwikshot]

You've been one of the last to vote both times, and have had little to say until you came under the gun. The text of your posts today has been incredibly suspicious, and the fact that you'd repeat Peregrine's info on this page to keep people from reading much of the accusations or info from the last page makes me more than curious. It makes me almost certain we've rousted a furry.

I'll be first, this time: Qwikshot is scrambling for cover, and trying to scatter his fire in a lot of directions. But everything adds up to him.

I vote Qwikshot

Oh, one of the six votes for me. Figured as much, yet I don't see you looking at the wealth of information going on.

I don't think I'm grasping at straws here, I think I'm proving my point.

But I'm not a wolf, but I can be sure the wolves will be joining the rest of my hapless colleagues in voting my death.

How am I scrambling for cover, I'm shouting at all of you to look at the truth?

Are you frightened of the truth NoMyths?

[Desnudo]

If you say so, if I were to think like a wolf, I'd concentrate on other threats. But seeing as I'm not, I'm at least trying to figure out who they are.

One of those six, I'm telling you, I may not live to say more.

Though you are trying really hard to defend the rationale that Airhog should be dead, but the wolves went after someone else.

It's mainly because if someone was going to be eaten, I'd prefer it to be him for killing Taz. Obviously I was wrong about him being the obvious choice, in that they went after McSweeny instead. I think McSweeny refutes the whole "quiet = wolf" argument since he didn't say a thing.

It's certainly possible that they could be playing the good cop, bad cop routine, with some laying low, and others being more vocal.

[Qwikshot]

I got to take a shower and get ready for work, I'll check in again once more before I leave, can't wait to see what goes on...while I'm gone.

[Qwikshot]

It's mainly because if someone was going to be eaten, I'd prefer it to be him for killing Taz. Obviously I was wrong about him being the obvious choice, in that they went after McSweeny instead. I think McSweeny refutes the whole "quiet = wolf" argument since he didn't say a thing.

It's certainly possible that they could be playing the good cop, bad cop routine, with some laying low, and others being more vocal.

McSweeny was out for the weekend as he stated. The weekend messes things up a little, I'd say let's look at those who were active, they're the ones who were most interested in what was going on...and thus have a tie to things.

[BrianD]

I want to hear more from those six.


You want to hear more from the six that you named, but you believe any answer they give on the Airhog vote will be spin to justify their wolfish ways. Kind of hard to figure out what you want me and the others to do now that you have cast suspision on us.

Really, if you read my posts around the time of the Airhog affair (which it shall now be known as :) ), I think my annoyance was pretty clear. You can cast that as being intentional from the start (which it wasn't), but you can't call it spin after the fact.

[NoMyths]

Oh, one of the six votes for me. Figured as much, yet I don't see you looking at the wealth of information going on.Of course you don't. Once again you dismiss the analysis I've done up to this point, misrepresenting my approach. Heck, I'd encourage everyone to read through my posts again in light of your statement...I've done plenty of looking. Enough to have me as one of the most vocal in the thread, and thus under the gun.

I don't think I'm grasping at straws here, I think I'm proving my point.

But I'm not a wolf, but I can be sure the wolves will be joining the rest of my hapless colleagues in voting my death.

How am I scrambling for cover, I'm shouting at all of you to look at the truth?Based on your posts up to today, you've given no indication of any special knowledge of the truth. In fact, based on your analysis, I think we'd be lucky to hit a single wolf out of your list of suspects.

My vote might change, but since I know how your analysis is leading you astry in at least my case, I'm not too convinced by any of your posts today. In fact, mostly they just dig your hole deeper in my opinion.

Are you frightened of the truth NoMyths?I'm frightened of being hung and being eaten. I'm interested in finding out the truth.

[BrianD]

I've got to say I am all mixed up at this point. I can't blame Qwik for his analysis since I've occasionally looked at bandwagon jumpers as a good place to find wolves, but since I am on his shortlist, I also have to question that strategy. I could vote for one of the people on the shortlist, but that would look like I am shifting blame to another shortlist member. I could vote away from the shortlist, but that might look bad too.

I guess I need to go back and read from the start and hope I find something that catches my eye.

[KevinNU7]

Does the voting close at 8pm now that the weekend is over?

[Qwikshot]

My analysis is a sound one, I haven't heard too many others with any sort of idea.

Yet for speaking up, I'm being attacked.

Why am I assuming the loud ones right now are villagers, and the quiet ones are wolves.

I think NoMyths might be the sorceror, but he's in all probability not a wolf, he's being too vocal.

Yet NM is so apt to vote for my death? Do what you will, I'm not afraid, even if I have to face death, I'll die and the truth will be clear that I was not a wolf, but if I die and am a villager, what will that say about you NM?

:)

Prove me wrong, think of a significant different means of acquiring a motive...for all your rantings, you still voted for Airhog, for all your analysis, you still voted for a villager.

The clues are right there, at least the motive is...maybe if I have time, I'll go back to Shorty's voting...maybe I'll see a pattern before those too paranoid (or worse) silence me.

[NoMyths]

Shh...like I said, my vote might change. We have to try some strategeries for flushing comments out of the woodwork, don't we? ;)

[Eaglesfan27]

I voted for Airhog because I thought he wanted out of the game. I remember that people were jumping on him for not participating and I thought he decided to expedite his exit from the game. Basically, I tried to use my intuition to figure out his motives for his behavior and didn't use enough deduction. I was hardly alone in my mistake as 16 people voted for him. I think casting blame on 6 people from that 16 is suspicious. I know I'm not a werewolf.

[Desnudo]

I wish Froggy was playing, we could use one of his spreadsheets.

[Qwikshot]

Your group has heated discussions all through the day, but in the end it comes to voting, and Shorty gets the short straw. At the end, with everyone surrounding him, he starts to mount an impassioned defense of his innocence but is cut short by several people with knives stabbing him to death. Unfortunately, he is an innocent villager.

Votes:

Airhog - 3 (KevinNU7, Desnudo, Lathum)
Desnudo - 3 (condors, ntndeacon, Airhog)
NoMyths - 5 (Neuqua, Shorty, EaglesFan27, KWhit, Mustang)
Shorty - 7 (NoMyths, Swaggs, TazFTW, Jon, George W Bush, McSweeny, Qwikshot)
Neuqua - 1 BrianD


There was a flurry of furious votes here...

Condors drew first blood though.

NoMyths drew a lot of attention, but ultimately survived due to Shorty's apparant inactivity.

Surprisingly, Desnudo and Neuqua both were picked.

Where did the 6 go:


Airhog - 3 (KevinNU7, Desnudo, Lathum)
Desnudo - 3 (condors, ntndeacon, Airhog)
NoMyths - 5 (Neuqua, Shorty, EaglesFan27, KWhit, Mustang)
Shorty - 7 (NoMyths, Swaggs, TazFTW, Jon, George W Bush, McSweeny, Qwikshot)
Neuqua - 1 BrianD

Note: NoMyths was one of the accused.

Granted there was some furious activity and a lot of pointless accusations, but I can see why NoMyths is quite high strung about all of this.

[Qwikshot]

I voted for Airhog because I thought he wanted out of the game. I remember that people were jumping on him for not participating and I thought he decided to expedite his exit from the game. Basically, I tried to use my intuition to figure out his motives for his behavior and didn't use enough deduction. I was hardly alone in my mistake as 16 people voted for him. I think casting blame on 6 people from that 16 is suspicious. I know I'm not a werewolf.

So having a theory is suspicious, c'mon Eagle, I'm game, if having a theory is suspicious then I'm as crazy as T.O. wanting more money to play for the Eagles (probably a bad analogy, but I'm off to work, will try to check in there, but I will be less vocal due to work demands).

Oh, and please note: I'm enjoying the game, my deductions are only meant to challenge your ingame characters, not your real personnas.

Fire away...I hate work.

[Eaglesfan27]

Well, you are only one of the few that didn't vote for Airhog. Is that because you knew he wasn't a werewolf since you are one and didn't want to risk getting hit with his power of retribution?

I agree that this is all fun ingame and I hope no one is taking anything personal :)

[KevinNU7]

I vote Qwikshot

http://www.riverblue.com/hughes/gleasonnew2.jpg

[Desnudo]

I vote Condors

Jumped all over me when I made a joke to him about him being a werewolf. Later jumped on the Airhog bandwagon awfully quick and seemed very excited at the prospect of an early lynching. In-between has been pretty quiet.

[KevinNU7]

I'm torn now, I love voting for Condors :)

[Lathum]

I am holding off on my vote for now. All I can say is I voted for Airhog in the first round and his antics did nothing to shift my suspicions from him.

[Lathum]

OK, I am going to lunch then I have an afternoon meeting so I'll be gone for a while. It is kind of sad that I feel the need to post my schedule for fear of suspiscion :)

I will be back in time to vote

[Jon]

I'm not sure who to vote for. But, since I'm at work, I'm going to have to step back a little bit and vote later.

[condors]

I vote Condors

Jumped all over me when I made a joke to him about him being a werewolf. Later jumped on the Airhog bandwagon awfully quick and seemed very excited at the prospect of an early lynching. In-between has been pretty quiet.

actually if you read the posts Kevin was the first to bring your name up i just agreed with the logic, in my posts i asked for other people's thoughts

you thought i was a hairy ugly werewolf

Instead of stating your case you just accoused me. i still believe your a werewolf.

i vote Desnudo

[Mustang]

I don't know if I'm buying that Qwik is a Wolf.. why swap from Airhog to Neu? With that act alone and standing out like a sore thumb, he had to know that would put him at the top of the list of suspects...

[Swaggs]

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Swaggs, BrianD, Fonzie, JeeberD, Mustang

JeeberD is a werewolf stalker.

[BrianD]

I don't know if I'm buying that Qwik is a Wolf.. why swap from Airhog to Neu? With that act alone and standing out like a sore thumb, he had to know that would put him at the top of the list of suspects...

Of course that could be his strategy. Stand out like a sore thumb and then point out it would be dumb to stand out while being a wolf. Hide in plain sight. I don't think he is a wolf, but you never know.

[Mustang]

Of course that could be his strategy. Stand out like a sore thumb and then point out it would be dumb to stand out while being a wolf. Hide in plain sight. I don't think he is a wolf, but you never know.

True.. Seems as though we agree that Qwik is calling attention to himself. I hope that Qwik is just a common villager, we already had the Duke jumping around calling attention to himself, I don't think we need someone else with a role calling attention to themselves.

Although, if the Sorceror wants to speak up, by all means.. we'd like to hear from you. :D

[TazFTW]

That said, part of the reason that everyone piled on Airhog was because some of us believed he may have wanted out of the game.
That was my reasoning, why possibly lynch someone innocent when someone wants to die. I had a feeling about one person being a ww but decided to wait and try to find out more info. Lot good that did me.

[Peregrine]

Not much voting yet, I've noticed. Current vote counts:

Qwikshot - 2 (NoMyths, KevinNU7)
Condors - 1 (Desnudo)
Desnudo - 1 (Condors)

Around 3 hours to go until lynching time.

[Mustang]

Is the deadline tonight at 8:00 or when is it??

Seems like the only case stated for someone right now is for Qwik and I'm not buying right now...

Condors and Desnudo voted for each other but, I think condors and Desnudo just voted for each other out of spite.. Although, If one was a wolf, would make sense to even up the voting rather quickly which would suggest Condors would be the wolf in that scenario since he voted second.

When I get home, I'll have to reread comments.. I'm still stuck on Neuqua and NoMyths mentally right now... maybe it is just because of Qwik's list of 6 candidates right now.

Be interesting to see if some people come out to join us tonight.. a whole lotta quiet people. :confused:

[Mustang]

Around 3 hours to go until lynching time.

Answers my question...

[Swaggs]

We need some more people to speak up with what's on their mind.

To me, I'm more suspicious that some of the more outspoken among us are either the seer, the sorcerer, the cultist, or the doctor rather than the werewolf.

[ntndeacon]

I have a couple of thoughts.
First, the wolves may have intentionally not targeted Nequa to get us to lynch Qwik. Especially since going after a quieter person may confuse us more.
I do agree that McSweeny was somewhat random. The wolves getting lucky.
i tend to think that the wolves have not been in much of a danger to this point (I realize this is somewhat obvious since the only person that was close that hasn't got lynched was NoMyths ) It seems that it might be time to look at some of the other names. A couple stick out to me as possible wolves either from what they have said or the timing of their posts or lack therof.
I vote for Jon
He has voted for the bandwagon pick twice. He even voted for Shorty after saying that he liked Shorty's analysis. For the Airhog pick, he waited pretty late (but not last.) to go with the majority. Plus he has been somewhat silent.

[Lathum]

i've been really busy at work. I will re read everything when I get home around 7:00

[Airhog]

Here's and interesting theory. What if both Condors, and Desnudo are wolves? Everyone might just think they are fighting amongst themselves, but if they only vote for each other, then what is the big deal?

[ntndeacon]

Well, I am going to go play some poker. I won't be back until after the deadline. Let's hope we have a bit better luck than we have been having. Night all

[Eaglesfan27]

Here's and interesting theory. What if both Condors, and Desnudo are wolves? Everyone might just think they are fighting amongst themselves, but if they only vote for each other, then what is the big deal?
That is an interesting idea. I have to admit that I'm very confused. I feel like we've gained very little valuable information so far. I'm going to spend another hour or so thinking about info in this thread, and then hopefully make a good decision that will help us lynch a werewolf.

[Fonzie]

That is an interesting idea. I have to admit that I'm very confused. I feel like we've gained very little valuable information so far. I'm going to spend another hour or so thinking about info in this thread, and then hopefully make a good decision that will help us lynch a werewolf.
I rather suspect that you'll spend the next our cleaning your fur and straightening your whiskers, sir! http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Joe]

sorry for not being active as much today guys, first day on a new job and orientation the first few days this week. I'll be voting after I read through the latest developments.

[Mustang]

Here's and interesting theory. What if both Condors, and Desnudo are wolves? Everyone might just think they are fighting amongst themselves, but if they only vote for each other, then what is the big deal?

I was thinking one (Condors) potentially but, not both..

[Airhog]

Okay, I am ready to throw out my vote. He has been quiet, but not too quiet, he hasnt openly accused anyone of being a werewolf. I think he has played the game too well upto this point. Either he is a werewolf, or another important role.

I vote Eaglesfan27

[Mustang]

Hmm.. since voting is few and far between, I believe I will have to

Vote Condors

I'm subscribing to the werewolves laying low theory. Just seems like there is not a whole lot to go on. . . . Condors has already voted for Desnudo once, hopped on the Airhog bandwagon and then voted for Desnudo pretty quickly once again after Desnudo voted for him. With so little people voting right now, I'd be fearful of being lynched because 2 or 3 votes may do it at this rate.. hence the quick vote.

Barring any new insight into anything..

[Joe]

I read through the thread, and am suspicious of a few people. I question NoMyths trying to out the seer (which I did last game rather foolishly), but he didn't specifically name names. Maybe he didn't want to draw too much attention to himself in that case, or maybe he just erred on the side of caution. I don't really buy that Quikshot is a wolf, not yet anyway. He could be throwing out that list of people to draw attention away from himself and other wolves, but I don't know yet. But something stood out enough to make me vote this way. Mainly for his thoughts of wanting to lynch someone who he knows is not a wolf (Airhog):

I Vote For Desnudo

[Jon]

I have a couple of thoughts.
First, the wolves may have intentionally not targeted Nequa to get us to lynch Qwik. Especially since going after a quieter person may confuse us more.
I do agree that McSweeny was somewhat random. The wolves getting lucky.
i tend to think that the wolves have not been in much of a danger to this point (I realize this is somewhat obvious since the only person that was close that hasn't got lynched was NoMyths ) It seems that it might be time to look at some of the other names. A couple stick out to me as possible wolves either from what they have said or the timing of their posts or lack therof.
I vote for Jon
He has voted for the bandwagon pick twice. He even voted for Shorty after saying that he liked Shorty's analysis. For the Airhog pick, he waited pretty late (but not last.) to go with the majority. Plus he has been somewhat silent.

It's called work.....I'm a lawyer and a I had ton of cases on today. I wasn't sure who to vote for, but...
I vote ntndeacon

[Eaglesfan27]

Well, I'm too thrilled with some real life news to think coherently now (see my thread about being nervous) but I will go with my thinking to this point.

Qwikshot, I don't consider myself the grammar or spelling police. However, much can be revealed by subtle slips of the tongue. You've referred to us villagers as the villagers. One could deduce that you don't consider yourself a villager. You've tried to throw aspersions on a group of 6. That is convenient. 6 people to hopefully be lynched while you eat people at night. You are quite clever, but I do believe you are a werewolf.

I vote Quikshot

[Peregrine]

Looks like the voting is going the complete opposite of yesterday's:

Qwikshot - 3 (NoMyths, KevinNU7, Eaglesfan27)
Condors - 2 (Desnudo, Mustang)
Desnudo - 2 (Condors, GWB)
Jon - 1 (ntndeacon)
Eaglesfan27 -1 (Airhog)
Ntndeacon - 1 (Jon)

[Mustang]

Looks like the voting is going the complete opposite of yesterday's:


At least the votes are coming out now though.

[Peregrine]

Approximately an hour left to vote, hopefully the votes will coalesce around someone, and there are several people who haven't voted yet.

[Desnudo]

I read through the thread, and am suspicious of a few people. I question NoMyths trying to out the seer (which I did last game rather foolishly), but he didn't specifically name names. Maybe he didn't want to draw too much attention to himself in that case, or maybe he just erred on the side of caution. I don't really buy that Quikshot is a wolf, not yet anyway. He could be throwing out that list of people to draw attention away from himself and other wolves, but I don't know yet. But something stood out enough to make me vote this way. Mainly for his thoughts of wanting to lynch someone who he knows is not a wolf (Airhog):

I Vote For Desnudo

If I wanted to lynch Airhog I would have voted for him. I'm definitely not a wolf.

[Jon]

After reading the thread, instead of voting out of spite, I'm going to agree with Eaglesfan and
Unvote ntndeacon.
and
I vote for Qwikshot

[BrianD]

I read through the thread, and am suspicious of a few people. I question NoMyths trying to out the seer (which I did last game rather foolishly), but he didn't specifically name names. Maybe he didn't want to draw too much attention to himself in that case, or maybe he just erred on the side of caution. I don't really buy that Quikshot is a wolf, not yet anyway. He could be throwing out that list of people to draw attention away from himself and other wolves, but I don't know yet. But something stood out enough to make me vote this way. Mainly for his thoughts of wanting to lynch someone who he knows is not a wolf (Airhog):

I Vote For Desnudo

This sounds like pretty good logic to me and since I haven't been able to come out with a great position of my own...

I Vote For Desnudo

[Airhog]

Well, I think I know where this is headed, and since I dont have any reason to fear repurcussions, I am changing my vote

UNVOTE Eaglesfan27
Vote Qwikshot

Not that I dont think that Eaglesfan27 isnt suspicious, but I think Qwikshot is more suspicious

[Neuqua]

Sorry guys, I've been running errands in the city all day and am just now catching up. I'll read the comments earlier and post my vote in a few short minutes.

[BrianD]

You guys really think Qwik is a wolf? I wasn't happy that he put me on his short list, but I didn't think he was a wolf...

[Airhog]

Well based on what he said, he is definately suspicious, but I think Eaglesfan is just as suspicious, I just dont see the votes coming in for eaglesfan

[Lathum]

OK. I just got home for work.

Based on the combination of his slip of the tongue, his accusations of 6 other people without much to go on, and the fact that he knew airhog wasn't a werewolf I vote for Qwikshot

[Neuqua]

I don't know if Airhog had planned what he did right from the start but I do think that it was very well played. It is just too unfortunate he couldn't nail one of the wolves while he was at it.

I want to go in either one of two directions here with my vote. I can vote one way and basically go "with the mob" or I can go with my own personal little *hunch* on who I think is a wolf.

Since it is very early in the game and to me no real evidence has pushed me towards one player or another, I am going to for now Vote for Qwikshot .

[BrianD]

He figured Airhog was the Duke and he was right. If everyone is going to vote for him, I hope you are right.

[Airhog]

He did, but if he was the werewolf, he would know I wasnt a werewolf, and had to be the duke :D

[Swaggs]

Qwikshot is a tough call to me. It is possible that he is the seer (who right now we badly need w/ the witness out of the picture), but he could be the sorcerer or cultist, too. Since he could be one of those two or a werewolf (of which I'm assuming there are more than one), I'm going to go with the odds and barring any last minute changes I vote Qwikshot.

[Qwikshot]

Ah the mob mentality kicks in...

well kill me if you must...but you all lose in the end.

Vote Eaglesfan27

He's one of the six, I say look there.

I just love how everyone has nothing to go on, but it's there.

10 mintues till death for me, rather swing from the gallows than meet the canines.

But I will say this, you all are pretty cowardly, and some of you will regret my death.

[BrianD]

If Qwikshot is not a werewolf, it will be interesting to see how many of his 6 voted for him.

[Qwikshot]

I don't know if Airhog had planned what he did right from the start but I do think that it was very well played. It is just too unfortunate he couldn't nail one of the wolves while he was at it.

I want to go in either one of two directions here with my vote. I can vote one way and basically go "with the mob" or I can go with my own personal little *hunch* on who I think is a wolf.

Since it is very early in the game and to me no real evidence has pushed me towards one player or another, I am going to for now Vote for Qwikshot .

No real evidence, did you read my postings?!?!

At least have a theory, have something...

[Qwikshot]

Shame I don't have till 11 to convince you all...damn shame.

[Lathum]

I voted for him but it wasn't out of spite. I just think the most evidence points his way.

[Qwikshot]

5 minutes till the end...

Let me ask you all, do you really think I would go out of my way to discuss my theories if I was the wolf? You guys are more paranoid than I thought, I find it comical.

[Qwikshot]

You all are basically giving the wolves an "out" again.

I know some of you must be the wolves voting for my death...

Look deep, 3 minutes...

You guys won't sleep well tonight...

[Qwikshot]

"hangman, hangman...wait a little while...I think I see my friends a-comin, riding a many a mile..."

[Qwikshot]

"Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls...dyin' time's here..."

You guys chose wrong...I've said my peace.

[Swaggs]

My vote is still up for grabs...

[Qwikshot]

My vote is still up for grabs...

It won't make a difference.

[Qwikshot]

8 is the deadline right?

[jeff061]

I have one name in my head, I feel has gotta be a wolf, based the way this persons has been talking since the beginning, just a subtle little feeling I get.

I think Eaglefan now has an unfair advantage!!! ;)

[Swaggs]

I believe so. But I don't think everyone voted.

[Qwikshot]

Unless some think it's still at 11, but I doubt it.

[Qwikshot]

Theme from "Jeopardy" is playing...

[korme]

But I will say this, you all are pretty cowardly, and some of you will regret my death.
Shitty isn't it. I don't know if you are a wolf or not, but I met my demise the same way. Everyone's mentality is honestly that of a coward, thinking along the lines of "better him than me", and usually people just gang up on one as long as it isn't them themselves, because then they are safe for another day.

[Lathum]

Shitty isn't it. I don't know if you are a wolf or not, but I met my demise the same way. Everyone's mentality is honestly that of a coward, thinking along the lines of "better him than me", and usually people just gang up on one as long as it isn't them themselves, because then they are safe for another day.
pretty realistic if you ask me. And I went through it the first game, so I know what it is like.

[Qwikshot]

Shitty isn't it. I don't know if you are a wolf or not, but I met my demise the same way. Everyone's mentality is honestly that of a coward, thinking along the lines of "better him than me", and usually people just gang up on one as long as it isn't them themselves, because then they are safe for another day.

I'm not concerned, I'm going to have a good joke afterwards...I'm not even a wolf, I did what I had to do.

[Peregrine]

Final vote tally as I have it:

Qwikshot - 8 (NoMyths, KevinNU7, ntndeacon, Eaglesfan, Airhog, Lathum, Neuqua, Swaggs)
Condors - 2 (Desnudo, Mustang)
Desnudo - 3 (Condors, GWB, BrianD)
Jon - 1 (ntndeacon)
Eaglesfan27 -1 (Qwikshot)

At the end of the day, the panicky villagers surround Qwikshot, who is still trying to give his rational explanations for why someone else should be chosen. At some point he seems to snap, though, and starts laughing and cursing you all. "You fools, my death won't matter, my werewolf masters are still among you, and none of you will ever leave this place alive!" Luckily someone interrupts his witty banter by bashing his head open with a piece of firewood. Qwikshot was the Cultist!

Night Turn 4

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
Airhog - Duke
NoMyths
Qwikshot - Lynched on Day 3 (Cultist)
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness)
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD
Condors
Eaglesfan
GWB
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

Please have your night actions PMed to me by midnight tonight.

[Eaglesfan27]

Looks like those who voted for Qwikshot had it right. Good riddance, Cultist.

[Qwikshot]

You guys are running short on villagers...:)

[jeff061]

I'd imagine people will be going over his posts very closely now ;).

[Swaggs]

Finally a win...sortof! :)

[Lathum]

Well we didn't get a werewolf but at least we got the next best thing

[Lathum]

lol, 20 people viewing this thread right now.

[Qwikshot]

Well we didn't get a werewolf but at least we got the next best thing

I thought sorceror would be the next best thing...but I'm dead, so I digress.

It was all so amusing though...and another big win if my masters get an innocent tonight.

[Swaggs]

lol, 20 people viewing this thread right now.

Better than television, I tell you. :)

[Mustang]

Sweet. Everyone have a role here or something?? Duke, Cultist, Witness in the last three people...

[KWhit]

FYI:

I have been swamped at work today (teaching a training class) and haven't been able to post. Just got in and am catching up. Please don't take my absence to mean anything more. Believe me, I would have much rather been playing werewolf!

[NoMyths]

GOTCHA!!!

Or at least close enough. :)

[Airhog]

two possiblities
1. since he called out Eaglesfan27 he is a wolf
2. since he called out eaglesfan27 he isnt a wolf

Which fits better?

[Eaglesfan27]

I think the second option fits much better :)

[BrianD]

So Qwik wasn't on our side, but this wasn't really a win for the villagers. One more villager down, one step closer to a wolf win. At least he won't be able to talk us out of any wolf kills now.

[Lathum]

two possiblities
1. since he called out Eaglesfan27 he is a wolf
2. since he called out eaglesfan27 he isnt a wolf

Which fits better?
you mean "he" as in eaglesfan?

[Eaglesfan27]

So Qwik wasn't on our side, but this wasn't really a win for the villagers. One more villager down, one step closer to a wolf win. At least he won't be able to talk us out of any wolf kills now.
He counted as a wolf for the final count, so this most certainly was a win for our side.

As far as a bit of info in regards to that last question. Remember that Qwikshot called me out when the vote was in question and he wasn't necessarily going to be hung. Therefore, it wasn't just a ploy to throw attention away from me. He genuinely wanted me dead. Perhaps, he somehow knew that I'm an innocent villager.

[BrianD]

He counted as a wolf for the final count, so this most certainly was a win for our side.

As far as a bit of info in regards to that last question. Remember that Qwikshot called me out when the vote was in question and he wasn't necessarily going to be hung. Therefore, it wasn't just a ploy to throw attention away from me. He genuinely wanted me dead. Perhaps, he somehow knew that I'm an innocent villager.

I didn't think he did count as a wolf in the final count. I'm pretty sure that only the wolves could as wolves. Either way, if we are going to kill a villager, better kill a cultist than an ordinary villager.

[NoMyths]

I think the vote for Eaglesfan was probably a distraction vote as well -- after all, he wouldn't have wanted to get a wolf. Lord knows I've adjusted my notes somewhat based on all the 'analysis' he gave us earlier. :)

[Airhog]

Yes, but he did do that after I said that I felt he was only less suspicious than Qwikshot.

[Barkeep49]

As I read the rules the game is over when there are no wolves OR there are only wolves and the Cultist and/or Sorcerer left as the latter two win if the wolves win.

[Peregrine]

Actually the wolves win if they ever reach a 1:1 ratio with the remaining villagers. Cultist and/or sorceror don't count for the werewolves in this, as it would be overpowering, I think.

[Sidhe]

I don't watch television, but I can't keep from coming back to this thread..

So it *must* be better than tv!

[Airhog]

besides the wolves have no idea who the sorcerer or cultist is, so they could just as easily eat one of them on accident.

[Lathum]

I'm holding off any speculation until the next turn ( assuming I'm not eatin) however, Qwik's comments and votes are very interesting. Especially his votes.

[ntndeacon]

The question is did Qwik completely exclude a wolf from his list of 6 or did he split them up. Even if Qwik wasn't killed, it seems that Qwik would be high on the Seer's list would could probably see his evil. If he was outed, who is safer but the 6?

[Mustang]

The question is did Qwik completely exclude a wolf from his list of 6 or did he split them up. Even if Qwik wasn't killed, it seems that Qwik would be high on the Seer's list would could probably see his evil. If he was outed, who is safer but the 6?

I don't think we can run the risk of excluding everyone on the list of 6 as being innocent just as much as we can include everyone off the list as being guilty. Qwik saw how Airhog's strategy blew up so, I'd imagine he took precautions to avoid that and snuck a wolf or wolves onto the list.. Only person that is 100 percent verifiably innocent right now is Airhog.

[Qwikshot]

:) I'm smiling in hell, really I am.

[ntndeacon]

That makes sense Mustang. Well except for the Airhog having strategy part. :) Qwik was adamant that the wolves were on his list even up to the end. He knew we would question his words making those 6 safer. I do think he might have split them up, but it does still make those 6 more likely to be wolves ...at least in my eyes.

[Swaggs]

Only person that is 100 percent verifiably innocent right now is Airhog.

And Shorty.

And McSweeney.

And Taz.

[Mustang]

And Shorty.

And McSweeney.

And Taz.

Sorry.. alive & innocent. Dead and innocent doesn't do us a whole lotta good. :p

[Peregrine]

I should have the night time update shortly, just waiting on one thing.

[Peregrine]

Many of you heard a commotion last night, but no one was willing to go out of their rooms to investigate. The morning breaks cold and bleak, and as you check the rooms, your discovery makes things seem much, much bleaker. There are not one but two bodies in the room. One, George W Bush is slashed and gnawed to the bone in many places, obviously a victim of the werewolves. However, from the blood trail, after the wolves had left he apparently was still alive long enough to go down the hall and stab Condors to death as well, taking his final revenge. Obviously GWB was the Hunter, but even more unfortunately Condors was an innocent villager!

Day Turn 4

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
Airhog - Duke
NoMyths
Qwikshot - Lynched on Day 3 (Cultist)
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness)
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD
Condors - killed by the Hunter on Night 4 (Villager)
Eaglesfan
GWB - killed on Night 4 (Hunter)
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

Have your vote in by 8 pm. I don't need to tell you that the villagers need to get this one right.

[TazFTW]

Wow. The villagers suck.

[Joe]

oops. there goes my theory of my death being a set up for desnudo.

[condors]

well that is a fine how do you do!

[KevinNU7]

NO!

That is horrible for us. And there's a brutal wolf out there that will take someone with us. Hopefully when that happens he will kill the Sorceror

[Mustang]

umm.. would I be alone in saying.. What the f*ck?

[Lathum]

oops

[jeff061]

What happens if a Brutal takes out a Hunter, or vice versa, and then the victim takes out his attacker. Would there be three victims?

[Peregrine]

I think three victims would only be possible if say the Hunter was killed, picked his target as the brutal wolf, then the brutal wolf could also kill someone else. Would be quite eventful. :)

[BrianD]

So Qwik knew who the wolves were and to throw us off, he picked out six people. Knowing that Qwik was trying to throw us off, ntndeacon is still pushing the same six that Qwik was pushing. I think ntndeacon might be a wolf.

[Mustang]

What are the plans through 4th of July weekend for the game?

[Peregrine]

Well there are 13 people left, and 2 will be killed each day. By Friday night the game could be over, either way. If we go into the weekend we'll decide later on in the week.

[Qwikshot]

This is a beaut.

[KevinNU7]

So Qwik knew who the wolves were and to throw us off, he picked out six people. Knowing that Qwik was trying to throw us off, ntndeacon is still pushing the same six that Qwik was pushing. I think ntndeacon might be a wolf.
I'd have to read it all over but I have to agree. Qwik accused the six before it was clear that he would be lynched. This to me means that most of the 6 are not werwolves. Anyone who thinks otherwise is suspicious to me

[Mustang]

I'd have to read it all over but I have to agree. Qwik accused the six before it was clear that he would be lynched. This to me means that most of the 6 are not werwolves. Anyone who thinks otherwise is suspicious to me

Bah.. darn server issue, lost my response. :mad:

I would also tend to agree that most of the list are probably not werewolves. Since he knew all of the wolves, (That is a true statement right? I have to reread the roles again... ) I can't imagine he would leave that much of a road map pointing to all of the wolves even if he knew he was or wasn't going to die. At some point, he could have been exposed and this could have been one heck of a road map. Of course, I'd expect a seer to do the exact opposite that most of the list would be wolves... Maybe a 4/2 split either way. I missed NTN's earlier comments about the 'list of 6'.. I find that a curious statement seeing a few of us have the same opinion of the list right away....

[Mustang]

I should have the night time update shortly, just waiting on one thing.

I missed this the first time, guess that one thing was waiting on the hunter's kill...

[BrianD]

Bah.. darn server issue, lost my response. :mad:

I would also tend to agree that most of the list are probably not werewolves. Since he knew all of the wolves, (That is a true statement right? I have to reread the roles again... ) I can't imagine he would leave that much of a road map pointing to all of the wolves even if he knew he was or wasn't going to die. At some point, he could have been exposed and this could have been one heck of a road map. Of course, I'd expect a seer to do the exact opposite that most of the list would be wolves... Maybe a 4/2 split either way. I missed NTN's earlier comments about the 'list of 6'.. I find that a curious statement seeing a few of us have the same opinion of the list right away....

The cultist knows all of the wolves, but the wolves don't know him. The seer may or may not know any of the wolves depending on who that person has viewed.

[Mustang]

The cultist knows all of the wolves, but the wolves don't know him. The seer may or may not know any of the wolves depending on who that person has viewed.

That's what I thought... although, was saying that if the seer did a list like that he might have weeded out a few wolves since they just couldn't come out and say it for fear of retribution.

[Lathum]

I have meetings all day but I am going to try and check in from time to time.

[Swaggs]

This sucks. I'm not liking the shrinking numbers.

And Qwikshot did a hell of a nice job confusing us by splitting up the groups.

[Jon]

I have a very busy day ahead, but I will check in at some point.

[Mustang]

Seems like the same 4 or 5 people are formulating opinions, options that aren't leading us any closer to the wolves and all we are doing is just prattling on, steering ourselves in the wrong direction and giving ourselves enough rope to hang ourselves.. both figuratively and literally... :confused:

[Eaglesfan27]

Well, I just woke up a few minutes ago. This was a very unfortunate turn of events. I'm going out with a buddy for 4-5 hours. Please do not take my absence "as playing the game" or signs that I'm a werewolf. I'm not a werewolf and we really need to make a right decision and get one of those wolves tonight. I'll be back in time to read through the comments, think about them, and vote this evening.

[Lathum]

OK, I just got back and I am going to throw this out for discussion. I am starting to be a little guilty of Eaglesfan. My reasoning is this. It is safe to assume that at least one of the 6 people on qwik's list is a werewolf. Eaglesfan is on that list, with that being said, once Qwik knew he was going down he voted for Eaglesfan. It seems to me he is trying to defer suspicion away from eaglesfan by both putting him on the list and by voting for him.

My feeling is this. I think eaglesfan is the brutal wolf, why do you ask. My assumption is that Qwik was trying to mess with us by putting eaglesfan on his list and then voting for him when it was already to late. The reason he picked eaglesfan is because he is the brutal wolf, and if someone sniffed out his plan at least eaglefan could take one of us down with him. I realize by suggesting this theory there is a good chance eaglesfan will take me with him, but I am willing to chance it.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm not a werewolf. I think Qwik put 6 innocents on it, but I don't know that. All I know is that you will be killing an innocent villager if you kill me.

[Lathum]

Hi jeebs

[Swaggs]

I'm not a werewolf. I think Qwik put 6 innocents on it, but I don't know that. All I know is that you will be killing an innocent villager if you kill me.

I don't like assuming there are six innocents on Qwik's list, frankly, because I'm not on the list and do not want to be wrongly lynched. To me, there might be some information that is useful on those lists, but what it really does is potentially split us into two groups to vote against one another and by doing that, the wolves (whichever side they are on) could swing things and continue to pick us off. :(

The only thing we have going for us is that the seer should be able to pick up a werewolf or two in the next few days, because the odds are getting better and better.

[Mustang]

My feeling is this. I think eaglesfan is the brutal wolf, why do you ask. My assumption is that Qwik was trying to mess with us by putting eaglesfan on his list and then voting for him when it was already to late.

Does the cultist see which person is the brutal wolf or do they just see wolf?

[Swaggs]

Does the cultist see which person is the brutal wolf or do they just see wolf?
Only the dead know. :)

[Fonzie]

Wow - this is getting pretty ugly for the villagers.

[Peregrine]

Apparently Qwikshot took most of the discussion with him to his grave, it's so quiet you can hear a werewolf pounce in this thread. ;)

[Fonzie]

Wow - this is getting pretty ugly for the villagers.
This post was #666 of this thread.

Cool.

[Mustang]

Apparently Qwikshot took most of the discussion with him to his grave, it's so quiet you can hear a werewolf pounce in this thread. ;)

Ya.. no kidding. Guess I better start formulating opinions again. Was hoping my comments would spur some people to chat and come up with some fresh ideas and thoughts.

[Mustang]

This post was #666 of this thread.

Cool.

If the game was hunt for the devil, you'd be dead tonight. :D

[jeff061]

Everyone who sparks a discussion gets lynched, can you blame them for being quiet? ;).

[KevinNU7]

*crickets*

[Swaggs]

The only things I feel like I know are that Airhog is not a werewolf sympathizer and that Eaglesfan27 either clearly is a werewolf or clearly is not (depending on whether or not Qwikshot thought reverse psychology would work on us). That's a 1 of 2 choice to me right now, while everyone else is a 1 of 11 (taking myself and Airhog out of my consideration). Any thoughts?

[Qwikshot]

The Dead can Dance, they can't speak...

[BrianD]

Here are the 6 that Qwik picked: KevinNU7, Eaglesfan27,NoMyths, Lathum, GWB, BrianD.
I'm not a wolf, and GWB is dead. KevinNU and NoMyths jumped up and voted for Qwik right after he made his list. Eaglesfan and Lathum joined in later. GWB, Mustang and I voted elsewhere. Condors got a few votes and Desnudo got a few votes. ntndeacon was the only one to vote for Jon.

I thought ntndeacon was a wolf earlier, and now I'm thinking that his solo vote for Jon makes him look more like a wolf. His vote seemed completely random and designed to avoid notice since he didn't follow any of the other groups. I think he was trying to avoid notice.

I vote ntndeacon

[Swaggs]

Actually, adjusting over what I said before, I guess everyone else is probably more like 2 or 3 (depending on how many wolves there are) out of 11, so I guess the odds are a little closer than I originally placed them.

[ntndeacon]

What I meant last night is that we can not rule out the 6 on Qwik's list out of hand, just because he was the cultist. Several others have said basically the same thing. Y'all are right that Qwik gave the list when it wasn't clear who was going to be lynched. It is his harking back to his list once it WAS clear he was going to be lynched that makes me nervous abous some of the people on the list. He had to know it was a possibility at the point he made the list. (I think he had a couple of votes already.)
As for my singular for for Jon, well I was not here long afterward. I was convinced that Jon was a werewolf. However after reading some of the posts as to what others were thinking I could see myself changing my vote, if I had gotten back soon enough.

[ntndeacon]

Well since my voting for someone who has not been mentioned up until that point, I will vote this time for someone who has been mentioned on several occasions. At least until i see a more likely suspect.
I vote Desnudo

[Desnudo]

I think ntndeacon and Eaglesfan are the most likely suspects at this point, although if you asked me to base something on anything other than intuition, I'd have to admit there's not much to go on.

I also think that if we fail to get a werewolf tonight, and someone also gets eaten, that we are nearly lost. So it's important to take the time to make the right decision.

[Jon]

While I'm not sure who I'm voting for, my gut tells me that EaglesFan is not a wolf.

[Raven]

Man, I was I had joined this. Looks like a lot of fun.

[Mustang]

I'm a little skeptical of ntndeacon at this point.. There was the initial agreement by 3 of us on the content of Qwik's list. NTN seemed to be trying to steer us towards the people on the list as werewolves and then quickly backtracked when called on it and changed his tune. I think he was putting out feelers on if anyone would still believe in this list and get some backers. I would have expected that his wolf companions would have jumped in to help but, given the lack of response today, the other wolves may not have seen his comments yet.. Of course, now that probably won't happen as he has been questioned and accused by a few people.

For now, I'll have to go with the lone odd comments of the current day and

Vote NTNDeacon

Barring any new revelations that I hope will still come as we have what.. 4 hours left to vote???

[Mustang]

Hm.. although, odd that Desnudo just brought up NTNDeacon's name right after NTN voted for him... With a NTN having a few votes, is Desnudo trying to steer us towards NTN?

I'll have to relook at past voting...

[BrianD]

I don't know if this means anything, but ntndeacon voted for Desnudo after I voted for ntndeacon. It is possible that Desnudo jumped on ntndeacon since he alread had a vote.

[Airhog]

Seeing both went guns blazing...and since there is a deadlock, I really can't decide between NoMyths and Shorty...cheese pizza is cooking for me.

Vote: Shorty

Don't really think it's NoMyths, Shorty got highly defensive, the only guy really defending him is BrianD, so I at least see a support group there, NoMyths no one has spoken up for, so I'm guessing he's just a lowly villager.
This makes me highly suspicious of Nomyths.

[Swaggs]

Are seers and sorcerers revealed when they die?

[ntndeacon]

I don't know if this means anything, but ntndeacon voted for Desnudo after I voted for ntndeacon. It is possible that Desnudo jumped on ntndeacon since he alread had a vote.
Plus it probably annoyed Desnudo that this is the second time I voted for him.

[ntndeacon]

I believe everything but cursed is revealed when you die, Swaggs.

[Airhog]

A few other reasons that Makes Nomyths suspicious.

1. He defends eaglesfan as being just a villager, and that Qwikshot would never vote for a wolf.

2. He stated before that he was actively looking for the seer. He says it's for guidance, but I believe that he wants to eat him.

[BrianD]

A few other reasons that Makes Nomyths suspicious.

1. He defends eaglesfan as being just a villager, and that Qwikshot would never vote for a wolf.

2. He stated before that he was actively looking for the seer. He says it's for guidance, but I believe that he wants to eat him.

Could be. I've been a little curious myself....

[Swaggs]

A few other reasons that Makes Nomyths suspicious.

1. He defends eaglesfan as being just a villager, and that Qwikshot would never vote for a wolf.

2. He stated before that he was actively looking for the seer. He says it's for guidance, but I believe that he wants to eat him.


These are good points--particularly the second one.

[Fonzie]

Everyone who sparks a discussion gets lynched, can you blame them for being quiet? ;).
Ah, spreading your wolvish lies into other threads, eh? ;)

[NoMyths]

Are you kidding me???

I was the first person to vote for Qwikshot--the only evil person we've correctly targeted yet. Throughout this whole game I've been consistently vocal in leading the charge against suspicious characters...in fact, the only success we've had has been because of me targeting Qwik at pretty large risk to myself.

As far as trying to get our attention focused on how the seer might be trying to give us hints, I specifically concealed any information that might point to his identity, trying to protect him. If I was trying to kill him, I wouldn't have bothered.

Meanwhile, Airhog, you've been uniquely responsible for the death of one innocent. All game I've had fire on me, and I've kept trying to win things for our side. If you ask me, it's been working against us that you keep trying to target me. By now the seer has already verified that I'm not a wolf. If it wouldn't hurt our chances, I'd lynch you just out of spite for consistently leading us in the wrong direction.

I said that I felt Eagles was probably not a wolf. Probably. He's certainly raised some questions, but I've got bigger questions about others. However, as we can once again see, me leading the charge only seems to get me in hot water, even when I'm right. Fine. Y'all take over the analysis. I'll vote how you want me to. Sticking my neck out isn't worth a puddle of piss.

The only success we've had has been directly because of me. But do what you want.

[Mustang]

Seems NoMyths has been relatively quiet since the opening days and the near lynching...

[NoMyths]

dola...

And since I might be out tonight, I'll go ahead and vote for one of the quieter folks that I've been suspicious about.

I vote ntndeacon

[Mustang]

So much for NoMyths being quiet. :D

[ntndeacon]

Now to my reason for voting for Desnudo. I suspected him early on as he began to accuse several people of being a wolf. He did do this in a joking manner, but accusing several people at the time was suspicious. If it had just been me or just been condors, I could have just ignored it. Of course that made the votes of condor and myself "getting back at Desnudo." And after Airhog was exposed as the Duke there was no one credible that had voted for him. Now, we get to the next vote. 3 people vote for Desnudo. Condors, who still holds a percieved grudge, and two new folks that do not have a percieved grudge against him. GWB and BrianD. Of course who is next to go? One of the two. GWB's killing of Condor was an unexpected bonus.
Finally, it is clear that his earlyvotes have all been seen to be not werewolves. There maybe others who have this distinction, I don't know, but here are his votes.
Day 1...Airhog (the Duke)
Day 2 ...Airhog (the Duke) I will admit that practically everyone voted here so not much support is gained from this vote.
Day 3...Condors (villager) perhops GWB's errant killing can have a silver lining here.
Day 4...me (villager) I realize this isn't known by a lot of us yet, but it is true none the less. I assume 3-6 folks know I am not a wolf at least. the 2 original wolves, a possible 2 additional cursed wolves, a possible brutal wolf not a part of the two, and me. (Although I was under the assumtion that one of the 2 original wolves would be brutal, but icould be wrong there.)

[Lathum]

Ok, I am reading through the posts before I leave work and I am going to mull things over on my ride home. I'll vote when I get there.

[Mustang]

Day 3...Condors (villager) perhops GWB's errant killing can have a silver lining here.


How is that? Because Desnudo had to pick a new target?

I think you lost me on the last part though? (#4)

[McSweeny]

man i guess i shouldn't have waited around to use my witness powers huh?

Perhaps Qwikshot put 6 innocnets in his list so he'd effectively waste the seer's viewings on a bunch of villagers

[ntndeacon]

How is that? Because Desnudo had to pick a new target?

I think you lost me on the last part though? (#4)
Yes he had to pick a new target. So he picks one that had already voted for him at least once. I don't remember if Condor voted for him and if Condor did, the order of the voting.
On the last part, I did say that not everyone knows that I am not a werewolf. Obviously you fall into those that don't.

[dubb93]

I'm making my own shortlist of possible wolves and have it narrowed down in my mind to 4. Too bad I wasn't around when the signing up was going on, I got some good cases for all 4 of them. Would love to play this game the next time around.

[jeff061]

Yes, I'd say bringing this game to FOFC has been a rousing success.

[Airhog]

Nomyths: you do have some good points there, I think some of your actions have been suspicious, but not enough so that I feel like you need to be voted against.

[Joe]

Nomyths: you do have some good points there, I think some of your actions have been suspicious, but not enough so that I feel like you need to be voted against.

Yep I agree. I was thisclose to killing him last night, and killed an innocent villager anyway. Yay for me.

[Eaglesfan27]

I think NoMyths has some good points. I'd like to also point out that I was an early adopter (and advocator) of hanging Qwikshot. Our only good lynching up to this point.

I vote ntndeacon

[Swaggs]

Man... I have some real strong suspicions for the other roles, but just gut feelings on the wolves.

[ntndeacon]

One other point against Desnudo. His first post in this thread occured only 6 minutes before Peregrine "found" the missing persons PM in day 1. (post 75 for Desnudos post, post 80 for Peregrine's)

[Mustang]

On the last part, I did say that not everyone knows that I am not a werewolf. Obviously you fall into those that don't.

Judging by the voting coming, seems to be more than just me that don't believe you aren't a wolf...

[Lathum]

OK, it seems like the masses are leaning towards NTN but I'm not so sure. I still am suspiscious of eaglesfan. He was on Qwik's list and I find it hard to belive all 6 people on that list are villegars. I know I am one, so that narrows it down to 5. Combine that with the fact that Qwik voted for Eaglefan it seems obvious he is trying to mess with us.

I Vote Eaglesfan27

[Desnudo]

Now to my reason for voting for Desnudo. I suspected him early on as he began to accuse several people of being a wolf. He did do this in a joking manner, but accusing several people at the time was suspicious. If it had just been me or just been condors, I could have just ignored it. Of course that made the votes of condor and myself "getting back at Desnudo." And after Airhog was exposed as the Duke there was no one credible that had voted for him. Now, we get to the next vote. 3 people vote for Desnudo. Condors, who still holds a percieved grudge, and two new folks that do not have a percieved grudge against him. GWB and BrianD. Of course who is next to go? One of the two. GWB's killing of Condor was an unexpected bonus.
Finally, it is clear that his earlyvotes have all been seen to be not werewolves. There maybe others who have this distinction, I don't know, but here are his votes.
Day 1...Airhog (the Duke)
Day 2 ...Airhog (the Duke) I will admit that practically everyone voted here so not much support is gained from this vote.
Day 3...Condors (villager) perhops GWB's errant killing can have a silver lining here.
Day 4...me (villager) I realize this isn't known by a lot of us yet, but it is true none the less. I assume 3-6 folks know I am not a wolf at least. the 2 original wolves, a possible 2 additional cursed wolves, a possible brutal wolf not a part of the two, and me. (Although I was under the assumtion that one of the 2 original wolves would be brutal, but icould be wrong there.)

Day 1, read the posts. Airhog voted for me, so I voted for him, it's simple. Day 2 means nothing. If you read my posts, I was looking for a reason to pick someone else, but there was no one else.
Day 3 I did really think Condors was a wolf. Just like every other lynching so far, I was wrong.
Day 4 I haven't voted yet.

[Eaglesfan27]

OK, it seems like the masses are leaning towards NTN but I'm not so sure. I still am suspiscious of eaglesfan. He was on Qwik's list and I find it hard to belive all 6 people on that list are villegars. I know I am one, so that narrows it down to 5. Combine that with the fact that Qwik voted for Eaglefan it seems obvious he is trying to mess with us.

I Vote Eaglesfan27

He was trying to get you all to think this way and hang me, an innocent villager. Don't fall for his ploy.

[ntndeacon]

Judging by the voting coming, seems to be more than just me that don't believe you aren't a wolf...

And since I don't believe for a second that most of those who have voted for me are wolves themselves. I think that you are right... most of those voting for me believe I am a wolf, or at least evil. However they are wrong. Which looks as if will be plain soon. And another victory for the wolves will be at hand.

[Airhog]

Here is a list of what each person has voted for that is still in the game. I included Qwikshot since his votes were important.

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[Lathum]

Currently Active Users Viewing this Thread: 12 (12 members and 0 guests)
Lathum, Airhog, Barkeep49, BrianD, Desnudo, dubb93, jeff061, JeffR, Jon, Mustang, ntndeacon, SirFozzie


the crowd begins to gather

[Desnudo]

One other point against Desnudo. His first post in this thread occured only 6 minutes before Peregrine "found" the missing persons PM in day 1. (post 75 for Desnudos post, post 80 for Peregrine's)

Please read the history before making random comments. I live on the West Coast, my first post was at 9 AM PST. What else do you want?

[Jon]

I really don't think that EaglesFan is a wolf. His voting pattern doesn't seem consistent enough. As for NoMyths, I've previously indicated that I don't think he's a wolf, based upon the strategy he's used. However, although I'm not positively sure, ntndeacon has drawn enough of my suspicion based upon his voting pattern, that I vote for ntndeacon

[ntndeacon]

Day 1, read the posts. Airhog voted for me, so I voted for him, it's simple. Day 2 means nothing. If you read my posts, I was looking for a reason to pick someone else, but there was no one else.
Day 3 I did really think Condors was a wolf. Just like every other lynching so far, I was wrong.
Day 4 I haven't voted yet.

Sorry about day 4 then. I do agree that day 2 means very little. Almost everyone picked Airhog for some reason or another.
Most of the possibilities in my head about who are wolves are are vague as to why they are there. Call it intuition. So I am going with the name on my list about whom I am most suspicious. Could I be wrong? Sure I could. I don't think so, but it is a possibility. Do I have other suspicions. Yes. Most of those are more vague in my mind as to why I think they might be wolves.

[Swaggs]

I voted for Shorty the first round, too.

[Mustang]

hmm.. why did Qwik vote odd twice? Only vote for Eaglesfan and Neuqua..

[Lathum]

I really don't think that EaglesFan is a wolf. His voting pattern doesn't seem consistent enough. As for NoMyths, I've previously indicated that I don't think he's a wolf, based upon the strategy he's used. However, although I'm not positively sure, ntndeacon has drawn enough of my suspicion based upon his voting pattern, that I vote for ntndeacon
I'm basing my strategy solely on Qwik's history, not so much on eaglesfans voting. I think Qwik had another agenda and my gut says he was using eaglesfan to throw us off.

[Airhog]

Here is what I think of the people I suspect Strongly

BrianD - Every vote has been for a villager. Except for the Nomyths and desnudo vote, everyone else has been proven to be a villager

Jon - been very quiet, also the only person to change their vote last round

Kwhit - Been extremely quiet, albeit busy at work. Didnt vote last round.

Swaggs Been quiet also. Almost too quiet.


BrianD's voting pattern has been extremely erractic so far. I sincerely believe that at least 1 wolf is playing quiet, since GWB's outspokeness got him killed last round, I think one of the wolves is someone no-body has really talked about much so far.

[Jon]

Here is what I think of the people I suspect Strongly

BrianD - Every vote has been for a villager. Except for the Nomyths vote, everyone else has been proven to be a villager

Jon - been very quiet, also the only person to change their vote last round

Kwhit - Been extremely quiet, albeit busy at work. Didnt vote last round.

Swaggs Been quiet also. Almost too quiet.


BrianD's voting pattern has been extremely erractic so far. I sincerely believe that at least 1 wolf is playing quiet, since GWB's outspokeness got him killed last round, I think one of the wolves is someone no-body has really talked about much so far.

I don't really base things on how quiet a person is, especially considering some have a lot of work to do. However, the way I perceive things, Eaglesfan is not. I'm certainly not. However, based upon your astute analysis above, I think I'm going to change my vote

Unvote ntndeacon. Vote BrianD

(BTW, I apologize for the apparent rambling. My g/f's mom had emergency surgery after discovering something very bad recently. So my mind is not completely coherent.)

[Lathum]

I don't really base things on how quiet a person is, especially considering some have a lot of work to do. However, the way I perceive things, ntndeacon is a wolf while Eaglesfan is not

Why is that?

[Mustang]

I think today's vote will tell the tale more... Round 2 was a wasted opportunity with the Bandwagon, the 1st round was shooting blanks. Round 3 voting is definitely interesting..

[Jon]

Why is that?

I changed my mind (see above).

[Lathum]

(BTW, I apologize for the apparent rambling. My g/f's mom had emergency surgery after discovering something very bad recently. So my mind is not completely coherent.)

best wishes to her

[Airhog]

I firmly believe that ntndeacon is not a werewolf. It seems too easy to lynch him. I think I am going to vote with my gut on this one

I VOTE BrianD

He did call out ntndeacon

[Mustang]

Gotta admit, Airhog is the only one we can trust right now...

[Jon]

That's why I changed my mind. I took a step back and tried to observe how things were looking. There's the spite part of me that voted for ntndeacon, but an overall analysis seems to be that Brian D is a wolf.

[Mustang]

Gee... I have 20 minutes to decide... Although I guess I've already decided but, having doubts.. :confused:

[Airhog]

yeah mustang, but that doesnt mean I picked the right person.

[Desnudo]

His recent history on gut feelings isn't so hot though. ;) I'm positive that one of the quieter people is a werewolf. However, it's impossible to pick that person out from people who are just busy in R/L. That also leaves at least a few of the more vocal ones as possibilities.

[NoMyths]

Some good points have been made. And yes...BrianD's record has been very erratic. Too much so. Not to mention that I'm tired of defending myself against some of his accusations.

BrianD's analysis has led us to nothing but dead ends (literally). I've been suspicious that it's been on purpose. He's one of the few names still on my list with a question mark next to it based on his commentary. Now I'm willing to let others take the lead in accusing him of such, and throwing my vote in that direction. At the very least, I won't need to worry about him forcing me to defend myself yet again.

So to that end:

Unvote ntndeacon
Vote BrianD

[ntndeacon]

Since it seems clear that I will be killed soon, I might as well tell y'all my list of possible suspects. (I wish I could just tell you that I am the Seer and out the wolves that way, but that isn't true either.) Several of these you know that I suspect already, because I voted for them. Desnudo and Jon.

I have listed my reasons for believing Desnudo was a wolf. It is more intutive with Jon. He has been one of us quiet ones. Someone mentioned that he was the only one to change his vote for yesterday. If he is a wolf, he would have known he was changing from one non-wolf to another. remember wolves don't know the cultist's identity. So then he is assuring another villager gone by joining the piling on that was happening at the time. Plus he might think that unvoting me might make me question his motives less. He was doing a nonvindictive thing by not voting for me after I voted for him.
I don't have much reason for the next few except they have been quiet too. I am just a little nervous around them. Swaggs and Kwitt.
Now after reading a few more posts, I see what some others are saying. I am not convinced, but I am now suspicious of BrianD as well.
Obviously not all of these are wolves, and for those I wrongly suspect I apologize. But since I do not believe I will have much chance to speak after today,I might as well say my piece.
i hope that after today that you will start finding actual wolves instead of innocents. Good Luck in that quest. Go villagers. Kill the werewolves.

[ntndeacon]

well it seems a lot happened since I started to count myself out. Perhaps it is time for a change of vote.
Unvote Desnudo
Vote for BrianD

[Desnudo]

You can lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong Deacon. I'm sure I'll be high on the list. Although it seems like you're almost asking me to vote for you, I vote BrianD. You're going to think I'm a werewolf no matter I do, so I'll vote logically and hope for the best.

[ntndeacon]

The good thing is I bet either BrianD or myself will get looked at tonight by the Seer. Which would clear me and possibly implicate Brian.

[Eaglesfan27]

I've re-read this thread and am having doubts about my vote. I also find a few of the points about BrianD quite interesting. Therefore,

I unvote ntndeacon

I vote BrianD.

[Swaggs]

Hopefully going in a little different direction won't hurt me if I'm wrong, but I'm with ntdeacon here. I feel like I have some evidence of the others being voted for having different roles that could help us win. I have felt suspicious of the the Desnudo-Condors feud for awhile, and now that we know that Condors was an innocent I'm going to vote for Desnudo because I thought they were each trying to shift attention from their werewolf buddies.

[BrianD]

I'll admit that my voting has been erratic, but that is only because I didn't have any strong feelings for the wolves. The first night I moved myself away from Shorty because I didn't think he was a wolf. I was right there. I jumped on the Airhog bandwagon, which was a bad move, and I moved myself away from Qwik because I didn't believe he was a wolf. Right again. I don't think you should penalize me for not following the bandwagon on villagers.

If you guys lynch me tonight, you'll be that much closer to having the wolves win since you'll pretty much guarantee two villager deaths tonight.

[Mustang]

Sure alot of late comers to the BrianD party... there are either really a bunch of undecideds and Airhog has help us out tremendously or there are wolves hanging around and swinging the vote. I guess we will find out in the next 10-15 minutes.

[KWhit]

A lot has happened since I was gone! I had to fly to Connecticut for a training class. Sorry I missed the vote last night. I honestly thought I'd have the time after the class to participate, but they sprang one of those company dinners on us, so I went out.

But I think I have caught up with the goings on. I feel that we can trust Airhog since we know he's no werewolf. I also agree with his points about BrianD. I think that either he or ntndeacon is a werewolf.

I vote BrianD.

[BrianD]

You all should take special note of who started the bandwagon against me. This might help you learn from the mistake you just made.

[Lathum]

Well I see where the vote is going but I stand behind my theory strongly. I suspected eaglesfan earlier in the game, and today I suspect him even more. Vote for BrianD if you like but I think it is a mistake.

[BrianD]

Mark my words, two villager deaths tonight.

[BrianD]

Can we get a quick vote count?

[Mustang]

Well, if you are indeed a villager, it would be best to spit some final words out to help us...

[BrianD]

I am a villager, and I gave my analysis. Switch back to ntndeacon.

[Airhog]

Aha! he must be the brutal wolf :D If thats the case, it was fun playing :D