Werewolf II - Flight to Hawthorne Manor

[Eaglesfan27]

Well I see where the vote is going but I stand behind my theory strongly. I suspected eaglesfan earlier in the game, and today I suspect him even more. Vote for BrianD if you like but I think it is a mistake.

You are 100% wrong. But, I'm voting for who I think is most likely a werewolf. I'm not going to vote based on any grudges.

[Mustang]

Aha! he must be the brutal wolf :D If thats the case, it was fun playing :D

*L*

good point. You've made a case Airhog but, it is one of those things that I hate second guessing myself because then I'll always be under the 'what if'...

[Airhog]

my count is

Brian D - 6
ntndeacon - 2
eaglesfan27 - 1

[Swaggs]

Refresh.
Refresh.
Refresh.

[ntndeacon]

Well, unfortunately I can't stay around to see the lynching. Dinner awaits. Talk to all of y'all later.

[Swaggs]

Well, unfortunately I can't stay around to see the lynching. Dinner awaits. Talk to all of y'all later.

Creme of Villager?

[Mustang]

Lots of non-voters... 4 out of 13 missing? (of course, my math could be wrong)

Why does that worry me? They thinking their vote doesn't matter?

[Lathum]

Who hasn't voted?

[Swaggs]

Who hasn't voted?

They probably won't reply, either.

[Barkeep49]

Sitting here at work with nothing better to do, the suspense of finding out whether the villagers will find get something completely right is killing me.

[BrianD]

If I was a brutal wolf, I wouldn't claim two dead villagers. Think about it.

[Peregrine]

Interesting vote swing there at the end:

ntndeacon - 2 (briand, mustang)
desnudo - 1 (swaggs)
eaglesfan - 1 (lathum)
briand - 7 (jon, airhog, nomyths, ntndeacon, desnudo, eaglesfan, kwhit)

not voting - Neuqua, KevinNU7

Your group surrounds BrianD, who is still proclaiming his innocence to the end. He is strung up on the porch of the manor with businesslike efficiency, you guys are getting used to this. After he dies, you search his room and find a medical bag and other equipment. BrianD was the Doctor!

Night 5

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
Airhog - Duke
NoMyths
Qwikshot - Lynched on Day 3 (Cultist)
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness)
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD - lynched on Day 4 (Doctor)
Condors - killed by the Hunter on Night 4 (Villager)
Eaglesfan
GWB - killed on Night 4 (Hunter)
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum


Have your night actions in by midnight, please.

[BrianD]

And you just killed a villager who could have helped save a villager tonight.

[Eaglesfan27]

Darn, things are not looking good for us.

[Lathum]

And you just killed a villager who could have helped save a villager tonight.
Sorry man, I tried.

If I don't live through the night I hope you guys see the light tomorrow.

[BrianD]

Edit - Post deleted since NoMyths deleted his shot.

[NoMyths]

*sigh*

Getting irritated at the dead ain't going to help us. We're floundering in deep water, and all of the well-meaning analysis hasn't led us any closer than before. What a mess.

[Swaggs]

Well, as I said, I suspected BrianD had a specialized role, although I thought it might have been the seer. Sorry Brian, we could have used you. :(

[BrianD]

Good luck guys, it is getting close.

[KWhit]

This just keeps getting worse.

[Joe]

boooo

[Lathum]

*sigh*

Getting irritated at the dead ain't going to help us. We're floundering in deep water, and all of the well-meaning analysis hasn't led us any closer than before. What a mess.
Maybe next time you guys will listen to me.

[Eaglesfan27]

Maybe next time you guys will listen to me.
I don't know why you are so fixated on me. If they listen to you and vote for me, they will be making another tragic mistake. I don't vote based on grudges, but I'm starting to think you are afraid I'm going to figure out something about you.

[Mustang]

There isn't a Duke of the Werewolves is there? I'd suspect Airhog if there is... :p

[McSweeny]

man, we've been pretty terrible haven't we? I'm still convinced the 6 that Qwikshot listed are all innocents

[Airhog]

I never said my assumptions were correct, I just made them. So far Im batting 0 for 0 and nothing I said has seemed to be correct.

[Mustang]

I never said my assumptions were correct, I just made them. So far Im batting 0 for 0 and nothing I said has seemed to be correct.

You did say you were the Duke.. :D You were right there...

although, you also did say you were a werewolf so... :(

[Airhog]

Here is an updated table of who alive has voted where...


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BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=68>Round 1 F.</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>Round 2</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 60pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=80>Round 2</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 54pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=72>Round 3</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>Round 3 F.</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>Round 4</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>Round 4 F.</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Desnudo</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Condors</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Condors</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">brianD</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Eaglesfan</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">nomyths</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">nomyths</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">quikshot</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">quikshot</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">ntndeacon</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">brianD</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Jon</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Shorty</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Shorty</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">ntndeacon</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">qwikshot</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">brainD</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">brainD</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>KevinNU7</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Qwikshot</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Qwikshot</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Kwhit</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Nomyths</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Nomyths</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">BrianD</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Lathum</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Qwikshot</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Qwikshot</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">eaglesfan27</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">eaglesfan27</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Mustang</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Nomyths</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Condors</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Condors</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">ntndeacon</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">ntndeacon</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Neuqua</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Nomyths</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Nomyths</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Airhog</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Qwikshot</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Qwikshot</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>NoMyths</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Shorty</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">Shorty</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> </TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; 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[Qwikshot]

man, we've been pretty terrible haven't we? I'm still convinced the 6 that Qwikshot listed are all innocents

The Dead Can't Speak :p

[Airhog]

Yeah but I lied about the werewolf bit. All of my other posts after that have been my thoughts.

My personal thoughts is that at least 2 werewolves voted for BrianD. I don't think that the werewolf is ntndeacon either. Only because everyone swung over so easily. I dont think my argument was THAT convincing.

My thoughts on who I think is a suspect now

Khwit - Too quiet, and since he hasnt voted much, its hard to draw a bead on him

Lathum - keeps calling out eaglesfan27, has flown under the radar. could definately be a werewolf except that he makes himself obvious since him and swaggs were the only two dissents from the brianD vote

Desnudo - BrainD was his only voted that actually went towards a lynching

mustang - felt no need to switch voting over to ntndeacon. Smart move if he was a werewolf, especially if both of them are villagers

Swaggs - been quiet, and hasnt stuck out any.

[Airhog]

I dont think that anyone who voted for brianD will be killed. Since most of the BrianD supports are likely suspects except for myself. And that 5 others who have shadows of doubt cast on them.

[Airhog]

but I've been wrong so much, maybe you people should do the exact opposite of whatever I say :D

[Lathum]

but I've been wrong so much, maybe you people should do the exact opposite of whatever I say :D
I didn't wanna be the one to point that out but...

[KWhit]

First we have Quik's list. Now we have Airhog's. Well, at least we know Airhog's not siding with the werewolves. But, so far his judgement has been... well... it's been about as good as the rest of ours!

As far as my inclusion on the list: I told you why I have been so quiet the past couple of days. Before that I was very active. It was a situation out of my control.

[ntndeacon]

Well, Crud! In hindsight, if the choices were Brian and me I would rather me gone. At least he could watched over someone else. Well, mmaybe we can get a wolve tomorrow.

[Mustang]

mustang - felt no need to switch voting over to ntndeacon. Smart move if he was a werewolf, especially if both of them are villagers


I stood by my original vote and saw no reason to shift to BrianD as I didn't think he was a werewolf. I thought about it but, I made a case earlier in the day and seemed people were in agreement but, shifted in the last few minutes. I decided to stick with my instincts in the end. Can't speak for anyone else that flip-flopped.

[Desnudo]

It seems odd that so many people would choose to switch on the dime. I hope the seer finds something tonight.

[Mustang]

I dont think that anyone who voted for brianD will be killed. Since most of the BrianD supports are likely suspects except for myself. And that 5 others who have shadows of doubt cast on them.

Not to mention the 2 that didn't vote. Which they were either busy with real life items or didn't feel that voting on either would matter.

[ntndeacon]

It should be clear why I voted how I did, but I will say it anyway. I was preserving my hide with my vote. I did see the points others were making, and jumping on a lifeline I took it. I did think he could be a werewolf, and since I knew that I was a bad choice for werewolf, I went with what would save me.

[KWhit]

Now to my reason for voting for Desnudo. I suspected him early on as he began to accuse several people of being a wolf. He did do this in a joking manner, but accusing several people at the time was suspicious. If it had just been me or just been condors, I could have just ignored it. Of course that made the votes of condor and myself "getting back at Desnudo." And after Airhog was exposed as the Duke there was no one credible that had voted for him. Now, we get to the next vote. 3 people vote for Desnudo. Condors, who still holds a percieved grudge, and two new folks that do not have a percieved grudge against him. GWB and BrianD. Of course who is next to go? One of the two. GWB's killing of Condor was an unexpected bonus.
Finally, it is clear that his earlyvotes have all been seen to be not werewolves. There maybe others who have this distinction, I don't know, but here are his votes.
Day 1...Airhog (the Duke)
Day 2 ...Airhog (the Duke) I will admit that practically everyone voted here so not much support is gained from this vote.
Day 3...Condors (villager) perhops GWB's errant killing can have a silver lining here.
Day 4...me (villager) I realize this isn't known by a lot of us yet, but it is true none the less. I assume 3-6 folks know I am not a wolf at least. the 2 original wolves, a possible 2 additional cursed wolves, a possible brutal wolf not a part of the two, and me. (Although I was under the assumtion that one of the 2 original wolves would be brutal, but icould be wrong there.)
This logic strikes me as odd. The whole post is pretty contrived, wouldn't you say?

It seems he's trying his damnedest to make us understand why he voted for Desnudo, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

We have thrown out some theories that a wolf would probably vote with the pack to avoid standing out. So maybe ntndeacon is a wolf who decided to step out on a limb, vote for somebody different, and try to justify his vote.

It just seems like he may be trying too hard with this post.

[Swaggs]

Out of curiousity, how many wolves does everyone suspect that there are?

I think there are 3.

[Eaglesfan27]

I was initially guessing there are 4. If that is true, we are very close to losing this game :(

However, I'm starting to think there might only be 3.

[Mustang]

3 or 4 with probably 1 cursed.

[ntndeacon]

This logic strikes me as odd. The whole post is pretty contrived, wouldn't you say?

It seems he's trying his damnedest to make us understand why he voted for Desnudo, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

We have thrown out some theories that a wolf would probably vote with the pack to avoid standing out. So maybe ntndeacon is a wolf who decided to step out on a limb, vote for somebody different, and try to justify his vote.

It just seems like he may be trying too hard with this post.

I was trying hard. I was under the gun already at this point. I knew that I had not contributed much to the discussion either.

[ntndeacon]

I think there are 3 too. I think the brutal wolf was one of the two original wolves. And one of the first two nights a cursed got picked.

[Mustang]

Of course, all these comments may be for nothing depending on the results of the night turn...

[Desnudo]

I'm hopeful that it's just the original three. It would take pretty long odds for them to get that lucky.

[Swaggs]

I think there are 3 too. I think the brutal wolf was one of the two original wolves. And one of the first two nights a cursed got picked.

That is pretty much my thinking. If the doctor would have saved someone, we would have been short in the voting the following day (per the rules) and it would been damn near impossible for the bodyguard to pick right both nights.

[Desnudo]

I think the bodyguard only had to get lucky the first night. With Airhog's ravings, it was pretty easy to see that Nequa was going to get eaten the second night. So basically a 50/50 shot on cursed. I do think we started with three originals though. Two regulars and the brutal.

[Lathum]

I think there are 3, but here is an interesting thought, maybe the cursed one is trying to get eaten because he see's the werewolves are doing so well?

[McSweeny]

but the cursed doesn't know he's cursed right?

[Mustang]

I think there are 3, but here is an interesting thought, maybe the cursed one is trying to get eaten because he see's the werewolves are doing so well?

Do the cursed even know they are cursed? I thought they only found out upon death?

[ntndeacon]

Right. The cursed does not know he is cursed. In his mind he is a plain villager.

[TazFTW]

Interesting. The guy I thought was a wolf is still alive. If he turns out ot be a wolf, I'm going to kill Airhog. :p

[Mustang]

Interesting. The guy I thought was a wolf is still alive. If he turns out ot be a wolf, I'm going to kill Airhog. :p

Is the person you thought is a Wolf on this list?

Jon
Airhog
Swaggs
KWhit
Neuqua
NTNDeacon
Mustang
Eaglesfan
KevinNU
Desnudo
Lathum
NoMyths

???

:D

[Desnudo]

??? has been quiet, a little too quiet.

[Desnudo]

BTW, anyone want to lay odds on who's eaten tonight?

[TazFTW]

Not Airhog.

[Mustang]

Not Airhog.

*L*

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm hoping Peregrine will post that info soon.

[Lathum]

I'm not so sure I want to know

[Swaggs]

I'm hoping Peregrine will post that info soon.

Why? Hungry? ;)

[Desnudo]

I'm hoping Peregrine will post that info soon.

Want to see if you ate the seer or not?



(Disclaimer: the above was a joke and was not meant imply Eaglesfan27 is anymore a werewolf than you or I. Nor was it done to deflect attention from myself.)

[Swaggs]

So... It really sucks getting through the lynching only to have to wait and see if I get eaten day after day.

[Eaglesfan27]

Ok, I knew I was opening myself up to jokes and or suspicion with that comment, but I'm honestly afraid I'm going to get eaten tonight. Even moreso, I'm afraid a more important villager is going to get eaten.

[Peregrine]

The night passes quickly, without dreams for most of you. You wake up and troop down to the main room, trying to forget the innocent corpses stacked outside the door. There is one less of you this morning, and you find NoMyths half-eaten in his room. He seems strangely peaceful, perhaps because, from the scrying equipment you were able to find, he was the Sorceror. The rest of you (the humans, anyway) take some comfort in that.

Day Turn 5

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
Airhog - Duke
NoMyths - killed on Night 5 (Sorceror)
Qwikshot - Lynched on Day 3 (Cultist)
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness)
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD - lynched on Day 4 (Doctor)
Condors - killed by the Hunter on Night 4 (Villager)
Eaglesfan
GWB - killed on Night 4 (Hunter)
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum

Get your votes in by 8 pm.

[ntndeacon]

Wow. The best possible scenario for us. At least the Seer is safe now.

[Fonzie]

It would appear the wolves made a bit of a mistake with their last snack selection.

Oops.

[NoMyths]

Hehe. :)

And here I thought I was being too obvious. Stupid wolves. :p

[Lathum]

Well another small victory for us. Now we need to get a wolf tomorrow and we may stand a chance.

[Fonzie]

Hehe. :)

And here I thought I was being too obvious. Stupid wolves. :p
With friends like that...

[Eaglesfan27]

Woo hoo! Finally, we aren't the ones making a mistake.

[SirFozzie]

Just some idle thoughts (since I'm not playing)

10 are left. Speculation is there is 3-5 wolves.

IF there are 3 wolves, you have at least 1 more "Wrong" chance to lynch a villager (considering that the wolves will munch one not of their own every day). Miss the lynching opportunity and it'll be 7 v 3 down to 5 v 3 (assuming that they don't hit a Cursed... Probably unless the bodyguard at that point steps up and announces that he protected that target, everyone will assume its a cursed)

If there are 4 wolves, well.. you are in deep doo doo. Miss the lynching once, and when the wolves gnaw on one of you, it's 4 v 4.

if there ARE 5 wolves with the cursed counting. You're on your last strike and pretty much doomed. There are 5 of you, and 5 of them. Miss once, and they have you outnumbered, and they win. I THINK Peregrine stated that they were going to win if they equaled.. but not sure.

Very interesting, I think the Wolvies are going to win this one.

[Airhog]

The clues did add up though, him wanting to help the seer and all. The wolves exactly opposite of the direction I thought they would. I figured they wouldnt eat anyone from the group that picked brianD to die since there is a good chance at least 1 of them picked him. I also have an idea as to who the seer is. Of course Ive been dead wrong about 90% of the time, but there are some sublte clues left behind.

I still believe there are 6 major suspects.
Desnudo, Jon, Swaggs, Khwit, mustang, and lathum.

Here are my reasons why I dont think the others are suspects

Eaglesfan - I dont think that qwikshot would intentionaly pick a wolf, especially since he picked eaglesfan before he knew he was going to get lynched. I might see this if he knew he was going to be lynched though.

KevinNu7 - While it isn't impossible, I just dont see him being a wolf two games in a row. I think peregrine would want to give someone else the chance to be a wolf. The was partially proven correct in the fact that GWB was not a wolf again either, however, the possiblity remains that KevinNu7 has a special role.

Neuqua - I only called him out because only one person voted for him in the previous round. Which was BrianD. I figured it would be too easy for the wolves to setup BrianD as the wolf, and frame me for it. I believe moreso that he was'nt attacked and that the bodyguard protected him. I am assuming here that if he was cursed and turned into a wolf, that the cultist would know, and since Qwikshot voted for him the next round that might help prove that he is a villager.

ntndeacon - I am most unsure about this one. If he is a wolf, then clearly desnudo cannot be a wolf. However, It might be suspicious that Jon swung the votes away from him. I was all to eager to jump on that bandwagon.

[Fouts]

I wish I could comment, because it is pretty obvious (at least to me) who one of the wolves are. Good luck villagers.

[Peregrine]

SirFozzie, actually 11 people are left, which gives the villagers a little more breathing room.

[NoMyths]

Yeah, tried to leave enough clues that the furries would catch on. Guess they didn't. Fun game, though...had to work at it. And since I can still scratch a win out of this one, I'll wait for the victory party to properly "thank" the folks who ate me. :)

[Mustang]

Well NoMyths, that fully explains your diminishes my potential somewhat statement that you made. Unfortunately, I didn't force the issue otherwise you would have been uncovered earlier...

As for your comments AirHog, doesn't surprise me I'm in your suspect group. Everyone left has what.. a 50/50 chance of being a wolf right now. But, a note on your list. You also have to put Neuqah in the same group as Eaglesfan if you are using the logic that Quik wouldn't have voted for a Wolf although, I would put Eaglesfan before Neuqah on the suspect list just because of the more varied options that day...

Personally, I'm surprised I'm still around for as much as I talk but, I figure I'm being used as a disinformation source.. not as much as you are mind you since you've been off a whole lot. I picked up on NoMyths little information but, unfortunately didn't press it and didn't ask again and I sure wouldn't ax him off or vote to lynch him if I had the slightest inkling he was one of my 'helpers' if I was a wolf...

[Mustang]

Sorry.. Neuqua... not Neuqah.. :)

[Neuqua]

Jeeez. I suck at this game.

I did not get to vote in the last go around and i take full responsibility for it. My bad guys. I won't try to let that happen again.

[Swaggs]

Small victory, but a wolf would have been much better for our diminishing numbers.

I had a feeling that NoMyths was one of the remaining role players (sorcerer, bodyguard, or seer). With the seer still out there, we should be beginning to see the shape of the wolfpack, so I think we should all trying to see who is being subtle in suggesting people without trying to draw attention to themselves.

[Mustang]

I did not get to vote in the last go around and i take full responsibility for it. My bad guys. I won't try to let that happen again.

Wouldn't have mattered actually..

All it probably would have done is drawn attention to you..

[SirFozzie]

ah whoops. Missed Airhog is the Duke and #11.

[Jon]

This will be a very busy day for me, again, but I won't be able to check in too much, I don't think, so I'm going to make one comment on my perception of everything. II think we've been making a mistake by focusing on people who haven't been posting a lot. Looking at that, as well as the content of the postings (good evidence of diversion) and trying to get us to focus attention on other people. But, what really sticks out is this particular post. Now, it will be argued that it's a typo or that I'm taking it out of context, but I look at it as a clue: I'm holding off any speculation until the next turn ( assuming I'm not eatin) however, Qwik's comments and votes are very interesting. Especially his votes.. It doesn't say eaten. It says eating. Who else does the eatin, but a wolf.

Vote Lathum

[Airhog]

Im really torn here. I see two people that could either be a wolf, or the seer. This is the first vote that lathum has gotten in this game.

However Jon, I dont see this as a clue. I also don't think we have been focusing on the people that are quiet, since nearly everyone we have axed was very vocal.

[jeff061]

Yeah, stop focusing on the quiet ones and start lynching the poor typists ;).

In any case I have one guess on a seer, one guess on a wolf I've suspected since the very start, and maybe another guess on a wolf (do to the actions of my suspected seer).

I hoped I didn't contribute at all with this post.

[KevinNU7]

Didn't get to vote yesterday. Very disappointed in the way things turned out. I also think Lathum is a wolf because he was the first to do last game.

[Jon]

Im really torn here. I see two people that could either be a wolf, or the seer. This is the first vote that lathum has gotten in this game.

However Jon, I dont see this as a clue. I also don't think we have been focusing on the people that are quiet, since nearly everyone we have axed was very vocal.

This may be the first vote that Lathum has gotten in the game, but that's not really significant, IMO. The reason he hasn't gotten a vote is b/c he's done a good job of flying under the radar. This is most important lynching, IMO, and we need to make sure we get it right. I know you suspect me, but, trust me Duke, I ain't no wolf.

[BrianD]

Yeah, tried to leave enough clues that the furries would catch on. Guess they didn't. Fun game, though...had to work at it. And since I can still scratch a win out of this one, I'll wait for the victory party to properly "thank" the folks who ate me. :)

Damn you (and good job) for turning my suspicion of you into mass hysteria against me. My only consolation is that you really can't still scratch a win out of the game because you are dead.

Villagers, you really need to be less happy about seeing a cultist or sorcerer die. While it takes someone away from the wolf team, it still brings you closer to losing. Having the wolves eat a sorcerer is better than having them eat the seer, but it is still one more villager down.

[Mustang]

Is the Brutal Wolf a known role or does it just happen? Right now, there are 11 people left. Broken down by role -

1 Seer?, Unknown
1 Cursed?, Unknown
1 Bodyguard?, Unknown
1 Duke, Airhog
3 Wolves?
4 Villagers

There is a good chance that whomever is lynched is going to have a role (7 out of 10.. Airhog doesn't count). If it is an innocent person, that means that tomorrow, there would be 9 left. I feel that the wolves were lucky in hitting the cursed one on the first or second night which would make it 4 werewolves right now. Under the above scenario, if an innocent is lynched tonight and the brutal wolf is a known role then we have to be very careful that the wolves don't steer us towards the brutal wolf as that would end the game.

I'll agree with Jon.. this IS the most important vote. Not ruling Lathum out at all but, we need something more than eatin' vs eaten. Qwik was called out on the us/you thing (or whatever grammer error there was). I definitely buy that..

[KWhit]

Yeah, and there could even be 5 wolves now. We just don't know.

[NoMyths]

My only consolation is that you really can't still scratch a win out of the game because you are dead.Actually...I asked for clarification about this issue from Peregrine when the game began. He stated that a win for the wolves is still a win for the Sorcerer, even if he has been lynched. I'm assuming that this is in part because the Sorcerer still counts as a villager in the ratio count to determine if the wolves have evened things out or not. After all, otherwise there's no benefit to the Sorcerer role.

[Mustang]

Yeah, and there could even be 5 wolves now. We just don't know.

Which then we have to worry about that possibility now...

[Lathum]

This will be a very busy day for me, again, but I won't be able to check in too much, I don't think, so I'm going to make one comment on my perception of everything. II think we've been making a mistake by focusing on people who haven't been posting a lot. Looking at that, as well as the content of the postings (good evidence of diversion) and trying to get us to focus attention on other people. But, what really sticks out is this particular post. Now, it will be argued that it's a typo or that I'm taking it out of context, but I look at it as a clue: . It doesn't say eaten. It says eating. Who else does the eatin, but a wolf.

Vote Lathum
Whoa there. Go back and read any of my 1500 posts and there will probably be misspellings in most of them. I am a world champion misspeller. If you wanna vote for me go ahead and make that mistake, but at least find a better reason then that.

[Lathum]

Didn't get to vote yesterday. Very disappointed in the way things turned out. I also think Lathum is a wolf because he was the first to do last game.
Again, I need to argue this logic, it would be pretty obvious for me to be a wolf or to have a different role this game, I'm actually surprised I haven't been called out on this sooner.

I am suspicious of the 2 people who didn't vote. At this late stage in the game it is very dangerous to call someone out. It would be alot safer to miss a vote and not piss anyone off, especially if you see the vote is heading in a certain direction.




P.S. I realize people have lives, I am soley making this comment with the strategy of the game in mind.

[KevinNU7]

I can respect the suspision you have for me. The truth is I was shopping for an overn with my future mother-in-law and lost track of time. Trust me, I'd rather have been on here posting :)

[Lathum]

I can respect the suspision you have for me. The truth is I was shopping for an overn with my future mother-in-law and lost track of time. Trust me, I'd rather have been on here posting :)
What's an overn?

[KWhit]

What's an overn?
You know, the thing under the storve.

[Lathum]

You know, the thing under the storve.
Boo

[Lathum]

Hi Jeebs

[Eaglesfan27]

Well, I have to go to lunch with my soon to be new boss. I also have to do some orientation things. I might not be back online until this evening as a result. However, I'm positive that I should be back on at least an hour before the lynching to consider all of the new evidence in this thread.

[Lathum]

Ok, after JON casted his vote based on my spelling I felt compelled to take a close look at his reasons. The werewolves have been making seemingly random kills throughout and have been very lucky. All of the roleplayers are dead except the bodyguard and maybe the cursed, the bodyguard is a very valuable asset to us villagers. Killing the sorcerer was a setback for the wolves, and now they are probably scheming to try and get the bodyguard lynched.

Now the point was made about me getting killed first last game so I MUST have some kind of role as a reward, I don’t agree with this logic but I can understand the thought process behind it. If the wolves subscribe to this theory then they must be sure I am the bodyguard and they are trying to cast suspicion on me. Up until now I think they left me alone because they suspected me as the sorcerer, now that the sorcerer is dead they think I am the bodyguard. If they feel I have a role it has to be the cursed or the bodyguard. Only the wolves know if the cursed was already attacked, I find this very unsettling because if the cursed was attacked the wolves numbers are even greater and they are the only ones who would be able to make a better guess as to who the bodyguard is.

My philosophy is that the wolves think I am the bodyguard and want the villagers to lynch me, then they get another kill tonight and they will be dominating us.

I think they are trying to put this plan into motion with Jon’s vote early. Then in a few hours one of the other wolves speaks up and tries to get the mob mentality going. Then a few hours later another wolf speaks up, they want to space it out so it doesn’t look suspicious, and by Jon voting so early that allows them to do that.

.Jon was the first one to act and vote extremely early for me, this sticks out like a sore thumb if you ask me. Jon’s pattern has been to sit back and take in information then vote, he has changed twice, usually after the vote has pretty much been decided and has always voted for the majority. For him to single me out and vote so early is very strange.

I think I owe eaglesfan an apology, I’m not sure if he is innocent but it seems to me Jon is up to something. He only posted once in the first 165 posts, didn’t want to draw attention to himself? Then he started posting once the talk shifted to lynching shorty, then he became very active when comments started to fly about being cautois of quite people. He also has changed his vote twice, both times changing to the majority, is that so he doesn’t piss anyone off?

If you want to vote for me based on suspiscouns you have then it is your choice to make that mistake, but at this critical point I think it is silly to base your vote on someone’s poor spelling. We need to be very carefull here. Based on everything I see

I VOTE FOR JON

I didn’t want to have to vote this early, but this vote is so crucial I felt the need to bring these points to light then back them up with my vote. The history of this game is not very good for people who speak out early, but this is the most important vote we have had so we need to get it right.

[KWhit]

I have 2 people that I am looking at closely right now.

I'm suspicious of anyone who jumps on a post and twists it to throw suspicion on them. The latest was by Jon who tried to twist an obvious typo or misspelling (eatin vs. eaten) into a clue that Lathum is a wolf. The context of the statement made it obvious what he was trying to say. Anybody could see that. But Jon chose to make it into a big clue. Strange.


The other example of this I pointed out last night by ntndeacon. I'll post it again here. Maybe I just didn't follow his reasoning, but it seems like a stretch to me:

Now to my reason for voting for Desnudo. I suspected him early on as he began to accuse several people of being a wolf. He did do this in a joking manner, but accusing several people at the time was suspicious. If it had just been me or just been condors, I could have just ignored it. Of course that made the votes of condor and myself "getting back at Desnudo." And after Airhog was exposed as the Duke there was no one credible that had voted for him. Now, we get to the next vote. 3 people vote for Desnudo. Condors, who still holds a percieved grudge, and two new folks that do not have a percieved grudge against him. GWB and BrianD. Of course who is next to go? One of the two. GWB's killing of Condor was an unexpected bonus.
Finally, it is clear that his earlyvotes have all been seen to be not werewolves. There maybe others who have this distinction, I don't know, but here are his votes.
Day 1...Airhog (the Duke)
Day 2 ...Airhog (the Duke) I will admit that practically everyone voted here so not much support is gained from this vote.
Day 3...Condors (villager) perhops GWB's errant killing can have a silver lining here.
Day 4...me (villager) I realize this isn't known by a lot of us yet, but it is true none the less. I assume 3-6 folks know I am not a wolf at least. the 2 original wolves, a possible 2 additional cursed wolves, a possible brutal wolf not a part of the two, and me. (Although I was under the assumtion that one of the 2 original wolves would be brutal, but icould be wrong there.)
He admitted later that he did it just to get out of hot water and get the heat off of himself.

I was trying hard. I was under the gun already at this point. I knew that I had not contributed much to the discussion either.
So did we change our minds about ntndeacon too rashly?

I personally think that both of these guys could be werewolves, but I'd bet that at least one of them is.

[KWhit]

Hehe. Didn't see Lathum's post before I posted mine.

[Mustang]

*L*

Ping:KWhit your box is full? Been getting alot of private messages there lately have we KWhit??? :D

I did notice that the poster has 1 post. Now, either a wolf was trying to send a message to KWhit and his box was really full and couldn't put their own ping out there so, had to create a new userid OR one of the wolves is trying to be really creative in trying to point to KWhit.. I didn't send a PM to KWhit to test if his box is really full as I believe that would really be cheating since players can not PM each other. If KWhit was a Wolf, another Wolf would not have to be the smartest to do something like this and really point out KWhit...

I have to believe it is the former and not the later.. Plus, I'm stuck between thinking that tactic was ingenious :D or kinda cheesy.. :rolleyes:

[ntndeacon]

No Kwhit. I did not admit to JUST to get myself out of hot water. Was that a reason for me posting more, yes, but it wasn't the only reason. Even in the second post you quote I mention two reasons there. I had not said much of any consequence was the second, and more important reason. Also, I knew for a fact the folks voting for me were wrong. Plus it wasn't like I hadn't voted for Desnudo before.

[KWhit]

And no, my PM box is not full. And it hasn't been full recently. Looks like the wolves have me targeted for a set up. Pretty good tactic, actually.

They probably see me as vulnerable since I'm on Airhog's new list and I'm being vocal again. Being vocal seems to be the kiss of death in this game.

[Lathum]

Being vocal seems to be the kiss of death in this game.

No denying that. The funny thing is a recurring theme in this game is to be cautious of the quiet people, then the ones who speak out get lynched. Does that strike anyone else as odd?

[Qwikshot]

You guys shouldn't be peeking at inboxes...I don't think that is kosher.

Just my .02 cents.

[KWhit]

I thought I remembered addressing this issue in the first game:

Sounds like PMing is going to be important for the wolves in this game. So before roles are assigned, everyone make sure you have plenty of space in your PM box.

Seems like it might be a dead giveaway if someone were to post "PING: So-and-so. Your PM box is full."
Talk about using my own words against me! I gave somebody a great idea.

[Mustang]

I thought I remembered addressing this issue in the first game:


Talk about using my own words against me! I gave somebody a great idea.

Ahh... but half the fun of the game is having people use your words against you. Now you know how Tom Cruise feels.. :D

[Swaggs]

Does anyone feel like the seer has tried to send us a message yet?

[KevinNU7]

Lathum didn't mention the seer in his big rant which made me think he was the seer

[ntndeacon]

Ahh... but half the fun of the game is having people use your words against you. Now you know how Tom Cruise feels.. :D

You mean Katie Holmes. Oh wait! You said HOW he feels. That would be the electric moonbeams that go through the talky box that shows his movies.

[Desnudo]

I see a couple of possible factions right now. One might contain KWhit and Lathum, the other is led by Jon. Now which one is good and which one is evil? I have to admit that so far the points seem to be stacking up against Jon. His voting record is especially odd. However, I'd like to hear some more discussion.

And you all realize that we almost got the sorcerer on day 1? I swear if Get Shorty wasn't such a cool phrase, this game would have turned out differently.

[korme]

Hehe. :)

And here I thought I was being too obvious. Stupid wolves. :p
5 days later you finally go down!!! http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Swaggs]

5 days later you finally go down!!! http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Bitter corpses.

Told you that we should have burned them.

[KevinNU7]

Well everyone I am heading out of the office and most likely won't psot again tonight. For the sake of us villagers I hope that does not make me a suspect, but there isn't much I can do about it. At this time I can not place a vote on anyone and actually feel comfortable about it so it looks like I may go two nights in a row without voting. Man that looks bad. Oh well better then randomly voting for someone for no reason.

[Desnudo]

If you would like, I'll vote for you. :)

[Swaggs]

Well everyone I am heading out of the office and most likely won't psot again tonight. For the sake of us villagers I hope that does not make me a suspect, but there isn't much I can do about it. At this time I can not place a vote on anyone and actually feel comfortable about it so it looks like I may go two nights in a row without voting. Man that looks bad. Oh well better then randomly voting for someone for no reason.


Now that he is gone...

:D

[Jon]

A few things:
(1) I posted early b/c I had an extremely brutual case on, again, today, so I wanted to post very quickly based upon my observations.
(2) For the most part, I've been going with the flow. My explanations may not be entirely clear, but if I have a strong belief that someone is not the wolf, then I tend to go with the flow.
(3) As for suspicions of me, Lathum voted for me b/c he's a wolf. His misspelling is a Freudian slip, if you will.

The way I see things, I'm either going to be lynched or lunch.

[Lathum]

Lathum didn't mention the seer in his big rant which made me think he was the seer
Honest mistake, either way, bodyguard or seer the wolves would want me dead.

[Swaggs]

Without giving specifics, I think there is a good bit of evidence that suggests that Jon is a wolf. I'm voting for one of two people today that I feel have strong signs and since it seems like today some other people are keying in on the same clues that I am, I vote for Jon.

[Jon]

You have several choices: you can either vote for the wolf Lathum (and subsequently pay attention to those who didn't vote for him, as they are likely wolves as well) which would eliminate one wolf and start to turn the tide in favor of the villagers or you can follow the wolf bandwagon and vote me out, which would ultimately result in losing two villagers tonite. Or you can pick someone entirely different and run the risk of picking yet another villager.

I may not be home in enough time to see how the bandwagon goes. But, I will say this: I didn't vote for NoMyths (and argued enough to swing the vote) or GWB because they weren't wolves. I would never vote for EaglesFan or Nequa, because they are not wolves. I'm voting Lathum, b/c he's a wolf. Granted, I had some votes wrong (like everyone else), and I didn't know NoMyths was a sorcerer. . . but you can't see everything.

[Lathum]

But, I will say this: I didn't vote for NoMyths (and argued enough to swing the vote) or GWB because they weren't wolves.

Hindsight is 20/20

Last I checked we haven't had much success voting for wolves. This is our chance to get it right.

[Jon]

And we'll get it right by voting Lathum....

[Swaggs]

Unvote Jon for now, while I read back through.

[Eaglesfan27]

Hmmm... some very interesting developments lately. I'm going to re-read through the thread, but I'm fairly sure who I am voting for.

[Airhog]

but you can't see everything.


Is he trying to tell us something?

[Airhog]

gotta run to eat dinner, but when I get back, I will do a full review of the latest developments :D

[Swaggs]

Is he trying to tell us something?

At this point, that is what I am measuring.

[Mustang]

At this point, that is what I am measuring.

You're not the only one.

[Eaglesfan27]

Definitely not the only one. I tend to believe him. I wasn't going to call attention to his post, but this has already been done. I know some of what he said is true, and I suspect it is all true. Everything I've read in this thread, has me more convinced that I'm making the correct choice than any of my other votes.

I vote Lathum

[jeff061]

This is quite a interesting time in this game.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Jon
but you can't see everything.

give me a break, how obvious could he be. I stand by my vote, and I base it on more then a spelling error.

[Mustang]

I have doubts about Jon, Lathum & NTN (still at this point). The going back and forth between Jon and Lathum today seems a little odd as it was 2 people that have not even mentioned each other now, all of a sudden.. Jon started with the Eatin' statement which was weak but, jumped straight to the 'see' statement right away but, was it too strong? Seems like if he is the seer (Let's all admit it, that's what we are thinking) he might want to protect himself a little more and build an argument. Although, if he is the seer, I could see the importance of wanting to get it out in the open. We were already having doubts on Lathum. I think today is the most I've seen Lathum talk.. except for the first game/first day where he was lynched. :D

Like I stated before, if tonight is wrong.. :p

Still alot of people button lipped around unfortunately. :(

[Mustang]

Seems the absolutely ONLY logic I can come up with is -

1.) Jon could be a brutal wolf, wants us to kill an innocent and then kill him.. he effectively takes out 2 of us.

OR

2.) Jon is the seer and Lathum is indeed a Werewolf.

We really need to get one tonight. If Lathum is an innocent, I would strongly recommend against not lynching Jon until the end. If he is the brutal werewolf and the last one taken out, it won't matter.

Having said that, we are helped either way I believe as we eliminate 2 voting options because we will know what Jon is either way.


Vote Lathum

[Eaglesfan27]

I have doubts about Jon, Lathum & NTN (still at this point). The going back and forth between Jon and Lathum today seems a little odd as it was 2 people that have not even mentioned each other now, all of a sudden.. Jon started with the Eatin' statement which was weak but, jumped straight to the 'see' statement right away but, was it too strong? Seems like if he is the seer (Let's all admit it, that's what we are thinking) he might want to protect himself a little more and build an argument. Although, if he is the seer, I could see the importance of wanting to get it out in the open. We were already having doubts on Lathum. I think today is the most I've seen Lathum talk.. except for the first game/first day where he was lynched. :D

Like I stated before, if tonight is wrong.. :p

Still alot of people button lipped around unfortunately. :(

Darn board error made me lose a long well thought out post. I'll attempt to recreate it:

You are right, there is no need to beat around the bush. I think Jon is the seer. His message clearly indicates info about several people that he viewed. All of those viewings make sense because they were all people under scrutiny at some point. He says I'm not a wolf and I know I'm not a wolf. I think all of the viewing information is accurate.

Why would he reveal that he is the seer now? Well, because there might be 4 or 5 wolves out there. If there are, we can not afford another error as it could end the game. Now is the time of the game, where I think the seer HAS to be more obvious if we haven't picked up on any subtle clues before.

Also, in reviewing Lathum's posts, it is clear that he has carefully raised suspicions against several innocents before slipping back under the radar. He has played the part of the werewolf very well (as have all of the wolves since they are all alive.) I feel more confident of this vote, than any other vote in this particular game. Hopefully, we all get this correct tonight.

[Swaggs]

Definitely not the only one. I tend to believe him. I wasn't going to call attention to his post, but this has already been done. I know some of what he said is true, and I suspect it is all true. Everything I've read in this thread, has me more convinced that I'm making the correct choice than any of my other votes.

I vote Lathum

The only thing I am worried about now is Jon making himself look "too much" like the seer. That is a good defensive/sacrifice move to get us to lynch another villager tonight and allow the werewolves to kill another one of us tonight. That would be a 2-1 trade after we kill him tomorrow, with it being the werewolves turn again. Throw in the option of him potentially being the brutal wolf (which would be wise of the wolves to do if they were going to sacrifce one of their own), and it could be a 3-1 or 4-1 tradeoff. That could potentially end the game for us tomorrow.

Probably too much for me to say outloud, but we are real close to losing this game. We need to make the right move for sure tonight.

[Eaglesfan27]

The only thing I am worried about now is Jon making himself look "too much" like the seer. That is a good defensive/sacrifice move to get us to lynch another villager tonight and allow the werewolves to kill another one of us tonight. That would be a 2-1 trade after we kill him tomorrow, with it being the werewolves turn again. Throw in the option of him potentially being the brutal wolf (which would be wise of the wolves to do if they were going to sacrifce one of their own), and it could be a 3-1 or 4-1 tradeoff. That could potentially end the game for us tomorrow.

Probably too much for me to say outloud, but we are real close to losing this game. We need to make the right move for sure tonight.

I agree with everything you just said. There is definitely that risk that Jon is faking us out. However, I think the Seer HAS to be obvious at this point. From viewing all of the posts in this thread, my gut tells me he is the seer. I hope I'm not wrong.

[Swaggs]

The voting history is making me think that Jon is not the seer.

[Desnudo]

I find it odd that Jon went from a spelling error to a strong argument in such a short time. Although that could be chalked up to a badly botched attempt at avoiding revealing himself as the seer. However his argument came about, it does make some good points.

If it was earlier in the game then the decision wouldn't matter nearly as much, but if we get this one wrong, it's pretty much curtains for the villagers. I still need to think things over.

Brutal wolf or not, a wolf needs to go tonight.

[Swaggs]

I missed EF's and Mustang's posts before, since mine appeared as the last one.

Glad I'm not the only one thinking the way I am.

[Lathum]

I agree with everything you just said. There is definitely that risk that Jon is faking us out. However, I think the Seer HAS to be obvious at this point. From viewing all of the posts in this thread, my gut tells me he is the seer. I hope I'm not wrong.
The seer being obvious would be suicide. It is much more likely he is a wolf trying to look like the seer,. Jon knows at this point we are analyzing every detail, such as spelling errors. He knows someone would pick up on this and he made some comments. If he were the seer he would be commiting suicide because the wolves would target him at some point and they are close to winning. If I am lynched Jon knows the wolves have another kill tonight and the lynching tomorrow, that could be a 3-1 swing and goodnight for us villegars.

[Eaglesfan27]

Us getting one wrong, would end the seer's life most likely as the wolves would overwhelm us very soon. Yes, the seer is putting himself in danger by revealing himself, but he would be doing so for the greater good of possibly helping the humans to win. Furthermore, IF there is a bodyguard left, I'm sure he would protect Jon if you end up being a werewolf Lathum.

[Airhog]

but at this point in the game, it would almost make sense to give it away, especially if one more villager gets lynched and the game is over...Just food for thought.

[Lathum]

Us getting one wrong, would end the seer's life most likely as the wolves would overwhelm us very soon. Yes, the seer is putting himself in danger by revealing himself, but he would be doing so for the greater good of possibly helping the humans to win. Furthermore, IF there is a bodyguard left, I'm sure he would protect Jon if you end up being a werewolf Lathum.
Don't be so sure Jon will be protected

[Swaggs]

I just can't see the seer trying to out themselves like Jon did and I think the voting patterns support that. If I'm wrong, we're screwed big time. But if he is a wolf and we kill someone else this time, it could end the game. I'm going to take a chance. I vote Jon.

[Eaglesfan27]

If you end up being a wolf, it would be crazy for the bodyguard to not protect Jon (if there is even a bodyguard in this game.)

[Desnudo]

I'm thinking the same way. The choice for the seer is really the lesser of two evils. Although saying you're the seer doesn't make it so.

[Swaggs]

I'm going out to dinner.

Be back later.

[Desnudo]

It seems like we're missing a lot of people, unless there's going to be a lot of last minute votes.

[McSweeny]

but at this point in the game, it would almost make sense to give it away, especially if one more villager gets lynched and the game is over...Just food for thought.

i was having thoughts along these lines early today, but wasn't sure if i was allowed to say anything... being dead and all :)

[Eaglesfan27]

It seems like we're missing a lot of people, unless there's going to be a lot of last minute votes.
I think most of the wolves are going to wait til the last minute so that if they can save Lathum, they will. Otherwise, they'll vote for him to blend in with the pack.

[Peregrine]

Hmm, not many votes so far, if it looks like we're only going to have a handful I may extend the voting by an hour.

[Lathum]

I'm thinking the same way. The choice for the seer is really the lesser of two evils. Although saying you're the seer doesn't make it so.
I'm not sure what you mean. All I am saying is with so few people remaining the seer hold a huge advantage and why would he out himself.

[Airhog]

Ive got

Lathum - 3
Jon - 2

[Airhog]

I find it quiet odd that swaggs voted for jon, unvoted, and then voted again, after lathum got another vote.

[Lathum]

I think most of the wolves are going to wait til the last minute so that if they can save Lathum, they will. Otherwise, they'll vote for him to blend in with the pack.
Remember what I said earlier about the wolves spacing out the vote so it doesn't look obvious. Jon votes early. Then eaglesfan chimes in. Now they are trying to disguise themselves further by saying the late voters are wolves trying to protect me.

[jeff061]

This is good stuff, can't wait til tonight.

[Airhog]

Well here goes, another vote I hope this is right

I vote Jon

[BrianD]

This is good stuff, can't wait til tonight.

I wish I could weigh in. Interesting perspective when on the outside looking in.

[Eaglesfan27]

Remember what I said earlier about the wolves spacing out the vote so it doesn't look obvious. Jon votes early. Then eaglesfan chimes in. Now they are trying to disguise themselves further by saying the late voters are wolves trying to protect me.
Nice try, furball.

[Eaglesfan27]

Well here goes, another vote I hope this is right

I vote Jon

I can't believe you are voting for him. I really thought only wolves wouldn't vote for Lathum. I guess I can see both sides of the argument. Is Jon really the seer, or is he faking us out. I hope we get it right in the end.

[Desnudo]

I'm not sure what you mean. All I am saying is with so few people remaining the seer hold a huge advantage and why would he out himself.

At this point the seer has two choices, assuming it's Jon. One, remain quiet and potentially watch another villager, or himself get killed, effectively ending the game. Two, come out and get a wolf, get protected by the bodyguard, and hopefully get another wolf on the second try before he gets eaten on the next night.

I read through both your and Jon's posts and most of it didn't lead one way or the other. Except the discussion around Eaglesfan. Based on that dialogue, with you seemingly randomly accusing and Jon coming out with the a pretty clear statement that Eaglesfan is not a wolf. You also seem overly concerned with being eaten. I think it's a ruse.

If I'm wrong, Jon and Eagles are obviously the wolves, I'm sorry, and we'll all be dead with you.

Vote Lathum

[Lathum]

with you seemingly randomly accusing

c'mon man. accusing someone of being a wolf because of their spelling is as random as it gets

[Mustang]

Ive got

Lathum - 4
Jon - 3

I think...

veeeeeery interesting.

[Desnudo]

c'mon man. accusing someone of being a wolf because of their spelling is as random as it gets

He later clarified his suspicions in a new post. I think the initial accusation was an attempt to avoid being called out as the seer. It seems too sloppy for a wolf this late in the game.

Edit: He's also the only one who's posts seem to indicate some additional insight beyond what is on paper.

[Lathum]

alot of non voters

maybe the wolves are sitting this one out?

[Peregrine]

No votes yet from Neuqua, KevinNU7 (who said he'd be gone), Kwhit, or ntndeacon.

[KWhit]

I just don't buy it yet.

Jon overdid it and accused Lathum because of a typo. Then when called on it, he claims to be the seer.

I don't believe him.

I vote Jon.

[Airhog]

lathum - 4
jon - 4

[Airhog]

of course jon could have known that those who are called out early are usually lynched. quite a few of our lynchings have gone that way.

[Lathum]

of course jon could have known that those who are called out early are usually lynched. quite a few of our lynchings have gone that way.
Jon did a great job of setting me up. He called me out early and forced me to defend myself. Then one of his partners, eaglesfan, joined in. I think the other wolf is someone who hasn't voted yet. Divide and conquer.

[Eaglesfan27]

Jon did a great job of setting me up. He called me out early and forced me to defend myself. Then one of his partners, eaglesfan, joined in. I think the other wolf is someone who hasn't voted yet. Divide and conquer.
I'm not his partner and I'm not a wolf. I just hope my intuition and logic are correct in thinking that Jon is the seer.

[Desnudo]

The thing is, if he's not the seer, then who is? Maybe I have blinders on, but looking through posts, I don't see anyone else in that role.

Also, I haven't looked at the numbers to see if the villagers would have enough votes, but obviously Jon and Eaglesfan are going to get lynched if it turns out we're wrong about Lathum. So it's a very risky strategy for wolves who really don't need to risk it all to win.

[Lathum]

The thing is, if he's not the seer, then who is? Maybe I have blinders on, but looking through posts, I don't see anyone else in that role.

Also, I haven't looked at the numbers to see if the villagers would have enough votes, but obviously Jon and Eaglesfan are going to get lynched if it turns out we're wrong about Lathum.
So are the other people who vote against me. At least I don't have an obvious partner.

[Eaglesfan27]

The thing is, if he's not the seer, then who is? Maybe I have blinders on, but looking through posts, I don't see anyone else in that role.

Also, I haven't looked at the numbers to see if the villagers would have enough votes, but obviously Jon and Eaglesfan are going to get lynched if it turns out we're wrong about Lathum.
Exactly. The situation IS critical for the villagers. IF Jon is lying about being the seer, why isn't the real seer saying anything. This makes me more confident about my belief that Jon is the seer.

[Airhog]

I unvote JON
I vote Lathum

Sorry I thought lathum was the wolf, I was just trying to flush out a bird :D

[Lathum]

see post # 927

[Mustang]

I unvote JON
I vote Lathum

Sorry I thought lathum was the wolf, I was just trying to flush out a bird :D

*L*

[Desnudo]

So are the other people who vote against me. At least I don't have an obvious partner.

I think KWhit is one of your "partners," aka a wolf. We shall see shortly in any case.

[Eaglesfan27]

I think KWhit is one of your "partners," aka a wolf. We shall see shortly in any case.

I agree.

[Desnudo]

Where has Neuqua been? Ever since Airhog said he was going to eat him, he's disappeared off the map.

[KWhit]

I think KWhit is one of your "partners," aka a wolf. We shall see shortly in any case.
Why's that?

[Peregrine]

Yeah I've been noticing Neuqua has been MIA for quite some time.

[Desnudo]

Why's that?

I'll elaborate after the voting is done. If it turns out I'm wrong about Lathum then there's obviously no point in going over it.

[Lathum]

Maybe neuqua is laying low waiting to pounce.

[ntndeacon]

I vote Jon

[KWhit]

I'll elaborate after the voting is done. If it turns out I'm wrong about Lathum then there's obviously no point in going over it.
True. So I guess I should hope that Lathum isn't a wolf so I won't be next?

[ntndeacon]

Sorry Dont know if that counted or not. I just got back from War of the Worlds. Tom Cruise still sucks. Dakota Fanning was very good.

[KWhit]

I vote Jon
At 8:00????

That's suspicious as hell.

[Desnudo]

Well you should hope Jon is a wolf and you're right. Then you can lynch me or someone else who voted for Lathum.

[KWhit]

Well you should hope Jon is a wolf and you're right. Then you can lynch me or someone else who voted for Lathum.
Heck yeah!

:D

[Mustang]

NTN got the tie for Lathum huh?

Well.. this should be something

[Lathum]

I unvote JON
I vote Lathum

Sorry I thought lathum was the wolf, I was just trying to flush out a bird :D
you have been wrong everytime, you still sure about this move?

[Peregrine]

Actually scratch that, no tie vote. Bleh, I can't count today. Posting results in a sec.

[ntndeacon]

sorry I just got in

[Desnudo]

NTN got the tie for Lathum huh?

Well.. this should be something

Isn't it Lathum 5- Jon 4 right now?

[Lathum]

Actually scratch that, no tie vote. Bleh, I can't count today. Posting results in a sec.
should I stop begging for my life or can people still switch their vote?

[Peregrine]

Okay I'm calling the voting. Of the remaining 3 one posted he wouldn't be here, one is MIA and the third just misses out this time.

Lathum - 5 (Jon, Eaglesfan, Mustang, Desnudo, Airhog)
Jon - 4 (Lathum, Swaggs, Kwhit, ntndeacon)

Your weary and desperate group surrounds yet another person today for yet another lynching. Lathum seems resigned to it all, until at the last minute he grows claws and lunges for the person with the rope! He almost makes it out the door, but luckily a quick thinking villager gives him a shotgun blast in the back. Lathum was a werewolf!

Night Turn 6

Jon
Swaggs
TazFTW - Lynched on Day 2 (villager)
Airhog - Duke
NoMyths - killed on Night 5 (Sorceror)
Qwikshot - Lynched on Day 3 (Cultist)
Neuqua
ntndeacon
McSweeny - killed on Night 3 (Witness)
Shorty - Lynched on Day 1 (villager)
Kwhit
Mustang
BrianD - lynched on Day 4 (Doctor)
Condors - killed by the Hunter on Night 4 (Villager)
Eaglesfan
GWB - killed on Night 4 (Hunter)
KevinNU7
Desnudo
Lathum - Lynched Day 5 (Werewolf)

Please have your night actions in by midnight

[Lathum]

huh, tie? I haven't counted

[Desnudo]

Die you hairy beast!

[BrianD]

I unvote JON
I vote Lathum

Sorry I thought lathum was the wolf, I was just trying to flush out a bird :D

I take back anything mean I said or thought about you during the course of this game. :)

[Desnudo]

The Mad Duke saves the day.

[Mustang]

Isn't it Lathum 5- Jon 4 right now?

Not sure, I thought it was 5 - 5?? I could be wrong.. hopefully because as much as I see Lathum is almost likely to be a wolf, I fear a tie will go his way. :( Jon didn't say much other than a grammar error that Lathum did and that what he 'sees' while Lathum was defending away. I wish Jon would have just came out and said it if he was a seer.

[Mustang]

Oh.. sweet! I must have miscounted. :D

[Desnudo]

Well things certainly look a lot clearer now.

[Eaglesfan27]

Good show, Airhog. Good job, Jon! I think the tide just turned for the villagers. Much of worth has been revealed today.

[ntndeacon]

Well, good. I am glad my quick voting was not costly.

[Lathum]

grrrr, I thought i had it. the nonvoters screwed me. next time don't play the game if you arent gonna vote.

[Joe]

good job guys

[Eaglesfan27]

The worrisome thing is that from all of the data, it appears that Neuqua is a villager and we almost lost a crucial vote because of his absence. I hope he returns from MIA soon.

[KWhit]

Wow! I am truly surprised. If you are the seer and you know Lathan is a ww, why the hell would you pin your argument on a freakin typo?

Well, that probably did me in, because now everybody thinks I'm a werewolf too. Kind of a bittersweet lynching for me.

[jeff061]

grrrr, I thought i had it. the nonvoters screwed me. next time don't play the game if you arent gonna vote.

Heh, don't know bout that. You seemed pretty desperate during your 1 on 1's with Eagle. I figured you for a brutal.

[Desnudo]

Ghost of Lathum, why did the screw you? How do you know they would vote for you?

[Airhog]

I figured that If I has a tie vote, another wolf might try to jump in and vote for jon. Jon, I implore you, since we now believe you are the seer. Please tell us who you have viewed :D

[Airhog]

Well this may be a bit premature. But I think Swaggs is a wolfie too.

[Desnudo]

Wow! I am truly surprised. If you are the seer and you know Lathan is a ww, why the hell would you pin your argument on a freakin typo?

Well, that probably did me in, because now everybody thinks I'm a werewolf too. Kind of a bittersweet lynching for me.

Because he didn't want to have to reveal himself as the seer. I thought it was too sloppy for a wolf strategy. Now, do you prefer hanging or firing squad?

[KWhit]

Ghost of Lathum, why did the screw you? How do you know they would vote for you?
I caught that too.

[Eaglesfan27]

I figured that If I has a tie vote, another wolf might try to jump in and vote for jon. Jon, I implore you, since we now believe you are the seer. Please tell us who you have viewed :D

His post makes it pretty clear who has he has viewed on the first 4 nights. The question is, who will he view tonight? :)


Edit: His post makes it clear who he viewed on the first 5 (not 4 nights.) Hopefully, a bodyguard can protect him tonight and he can view someone tonight that will help us win the game.

[Desnudo]

Well this may be a bit premature. But I think Swaggs is a wolfie too.

I think Swaggs is a wolfie too. I also think KWhit is one. NTNDeacon, despite his vote, I'm not sure on. Hopefully the seer will take a look at one of the first two tonight.

[ntndeacon]

I am sorry now I voted before reading everything that went on since I left. The good news is I won't be voting for Jon anymore.

[KWhit]

I am sorry now I voted before reading everything that went on since I left. The good news is I won't be voting for Jon anymore.
Yep. Me either. Lot of good it will do me.

[Lathum]

Wow! I am truly surprised. If you are the seer and you know Lathan is a ww, why the hell would you pin your argument on a freakin typo?

Well, that probably did me in, because now everybody thinks I'm a werewolf too. Kind of a bittersweet lynching for me.
better be carefull, you spelled my name wrong.

[BrianD]

grrrr, I thought i had it. the nonvoters screwed me. next time don't play the game if you arent gonna vote.

I thought you had it too. I guess I shouldn't have been joking when I suggested lynching you on the first day.

[Airhog]

Ill put good money down that the wolves wont attack the seer. I believe they would know if there was a bodyguard. If that is the case, they will either killl

Neuqua - Pretty much proven to not be a wolf
Eaglesfan27 - If Jon was the seer, then he isn't one either
Airhog - Only person we know isnt a villager.

Now if they kill Jon tonight, it stands to reason there isnt a bodyguard. I have to wonder why they never offed me. I seem like an easy target, and my death wouldnt raise any more questions. however, they may have waited to long to do this and now the heat is on them.

[Desnudo]

Neuqua doesn't vote though, so I think killing him is pointless to the wolves. I think you have to protect Jon because the damage of him getting eaten is too high. High enough to sacrifice another villager.

[Peregrine]

If I don't see a post from Neuqua soon, I will replace him with someone else tomorrow.

[ntndeacon]

Airhog,
You are known to be only a villager now. You aren't a threat to them. well, not in what you can do at night.

[Lathum]

If I don't see a post from Neuqua soon, I will replace him with someone else tomorrow.
I'll voulenteer :)

[Airhog]

I think the wolves underestimated the power of the duke. I know I certainly did. I am the only player in the game that can freely accuse other for better or for worse. If I had only been a better judge of character it might have hurt them even more. I have a feeling that in future games, they will eat the duke just to stop him from being such a loudmouth

[Barkeep49]

If I don't see a post from Neuqua soon, I will replace him with someone else tomorrow.
I too volunteer if you want to pick a player from outside the game.

[Eaglesfan27]

No offense, Lathum, but I definitely think a replacement (if needed) should come from outside the game :)

[BrianD]

I think the wolves underestimated the power of the duke. I know I certainly did. I am the only player in the game that can freely accuse other for better or for worse. If I had only been a better judge of character it might have hurt them even more. I have a feeling that in future games, they will eat the duke just to stop him from being such a loudmouth

Up until today, having you around was good for the wolves. :)

[Desnudo]

That's true. Airhog's current tally: Innocent Villagers: 2 Wolves: 1

[ntndeacon]

Well at least one other question was settled. Qwik did put a wolf on his list of 6.

[Airhog]

I think you should replace KevinNU7 also, since he has been just as quiet. If your going to replace some people...

[Airhog]

That's true. Airhog's current tally: Innocent Villagers: 2 Wolves: 1

Actually its

Innocent villagers 2
Guilty villagers 1
Wolves 1

[Desnudo]

Just in case I get eaten tonight here's a brief run down of who I think is a wolf:

Swaggs - He was on my suspect list before tonight's vote and the vote simply confirmed it. The very weird switch-unswitch move seemed contrived and meant to imply indecision, when I'm sure his decision was made well in advance. Also commented on stressing about being eaten, just like Lathum. I think it's a ruse. None of the villagers seem to comment about that aspect, since it's a fact of life for them.

KWhit - Jumped to defend Lathum from Jon and also tried to deflect attention onto NTNDeacon, all in the same post. Also previously tried to indict deacon. His attention on deacon is the reason why I don't think deacon is a wolf.

I really think it might just be these two remaining, unless one of the non-voters is also a wolf. Order of viewing, lynching for me would go Swaggs then KWhit.

[Qwikshot]

Well at least one other question was settled. Qwik did put a wolf on his list of 6.


I wish I could talk, but I'm a rotting corpse right now... :p (Actually in both versions now).

[Qwikshot]

My question is:

Can I be in the 4th version...?!?!?

PLEASE!!!!

[Mustang]

Damn, this thing is almost up to 1,000 posts. :eek:

[jeff061]

You suck at Werewolf Qwik.

We will ignore the fact that I contributed to that suckiness ;).

[Qwikshot]

You suck at Werewolf Qwik.

We will ignore the fact that I contributed to that suckiness ;).

Ah, I think I was very good in this one, but yeah, the other one, too few people, make an accusation and BAM, lynching. :( ;)

[Desnudo]

Actually its

Innocent villagers 2
Guilty villagers 1
Wolves 1

True.

[Eaglesfan27]

Just in case I get eaten tonight here's a brief run down of who I think is a wolf:

Swaggs - He was on my suspect list before tonight's vote and the vote simply confirmed it. The very weird switch-unswitch move seemed contrived and meant to imply indecision, when I'm sure his decision was made well in advance. Also commented on stressing about being eaten, just like Lathum. I think it's a ruse. None of the villagers seem to comment about that aspect, since it's a fact of life for them.

KWhit - Jumped to defend Lathum from Jon and also tried to deflect attention onto NTNDeacon, all in the same post. Also previously tried to indict deacon. His attention on deacon is the reason why I don't think deacon is a wolf.

I really think it might just be these two remaining, unless one of the non-voters is also a wolf. Order of viewing, lynching for me would go Swaggs then KWhit.

This is exactly in line with my own thinking.

[Airhog]

Hmm two people agreed. You must both be wolves :P

[Eaglesfan27]

Hmm two people agreed. You must both be wolves :P
LOL :)

I think us villagers finally have some good info to figure this out.

[jeff061]

Just goes to show you need to mind your dead and non-mysterious future when it comes to typing up a post in the present.