Werewolf LXXV - Rise of the Great Old Ones -Students Win!!!!

[Schmidty]

Night 3 results:

Night falls and you are all exhausted from the events of the day. One of the captor/cultists was eliminated, and some of you are convinced that you have two others in your sights, so most of you are feeling a little better. You all find your little nooks and crannies, and hunker down for the night.'

Not long after many of you have fallen asleep, a loud, horrible scream originating from the first floor fills the library. Terrified, but curious, you all head from the source of the scream. What you find is Racer sobbing uncontrollably. You try to get him to speak, but he can't or won't at the moment. A few of you stay behind to console him, but others amble off in confusion.

Suddenly (I'm sick of using that damned word), someone shouts, and you all run to the second floor. Down one of the many aisles of books, you find a decapitated body, a discarded black robe, and hoopsguy's bloody head.

Just after you thought things were getting better, the nightmare continues!!!

hoopsguy was a Psychic!



(I've been hammered at work the past 45 minutes, and have to go home now, so if this write-up sucks, sorry. :) )

[Passacaglia]

Maybe Mrs.Schmidty should go check to make sure he hasn't fallen unconscious?

Or you can just tell us who you killed! :D

Oh, but yeah....I guess seeing if Schmidty is okay would be a good idea, too. :p

[Passacaglia]

VOTE ALAN T

[Racer]

Dangit.

Vote Alan T

[Alan T]

Or you can just tell us who you killed! :D

Oh, but yeah....I guess seeing if Schmidty is okay would be a good idea, too. :p

I didn't kill anyone! I just sat in my room all night like I have every other night!

Shocking though that Hoopsguy died.. I think the wolves got lucky with that kill, I personally would have gone after either Racer or Mrs.Schmidty if I had been a wolf!

[hoopsguy]

Bummer - round 'em up, students!

[Passacaglia]

I think this is a good time to talk about reveals. I feel like I'm at a bad college party. "So...what's your major?"

[Alan T]

Hey, before everyone all votes me.. lets all talk this through a little bit first. Maybe I can convince you all to change your minds?

[Alan T]

I think this is a good time to talk about reveals. I feel like I'm at a bad college party. "So...what's your major?"

I'm an Entomology student!

[Telle]

Wait a second.. if hoops was the psychic/seer, then what the heck is Racer??

[Passacaglia]

I'm pre-law.

[Telle]

I study Astronomical Science, and I have a part-time job at the library.

[Racer]

Hoopsguy died while trying to get his scan in yesterday.

[Telle]

Hoopsguy died while trying to get his scan in yesterday.

So who or what are you? Since you're obviously not the seer.

[Racer]

If I wasn't protected last night, I would be a good person to protect tonight because tonight is my night to scan (Hoops and I had to alternate every other night).

[Racer]

So who or what are you? Since you're obviously not the seer.

Read the night write-up carefully. He called Hoopsguy a seer.

[Alan T]

If I wasn't protected last night, I would be a good person to protect tonight because tonight is my night to scan (Hoops and I had to alternate every other night).


I might be a good person to protect today, I have a feeling the wolves are going to try to push for my lynching when I had nothing to do with that murder.

[Telle]

Read the night write-up carefully. He called Hoopsguy a seer.

No, he said that hoops was a "psychic", which is the role listed as being the seer. No other roles are listed as being seers.

[Alan T]

Vote Telle

Obviously a wolf based on yesterday's reveal.

A wolf in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[Passacaglia]

No, he said that hoops was a "psychic", which is the role listed as being the seer. No other roles are listed as being seers.

hahahaahahahahahahahaah

[Telle]

What's so funny pass? You going to claim to be a seer now too? Is everybody a damn seer in this game? Or is everyone just full of it?

[Passacaglia]

Sorry, but I think that's harping on the wrong point. If he's a psychic, which is the name seers are given, he's a seer. There's just no difference.

[Passacaglia]

What's so funny pass? You going to claim to be a seer now too? Is everybody a damn seer in this game? Or is everyone just full of it?

Actually, I am a seer. And I found a wolf. And the wolf is....



Narcizo!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Passacaglia]

Oh damn, and right after I post that, he leaves the thread. Heh.

[Telle]

No, "psychic" is the role and "seer" is the ability of the role. Since when do we have multiple players having the same role? I've never seen a werewolf game with that.

[Passacaglia]

No, "psychic" is the role and "seer" is the ability of the role. Since when do we have multiple players having the same role? I've never seen a werewolf game with that.

Let me think....last time I saw that, you'd probably have to go all the way back to.....last game. Ask RendeR about it! :)

[KWhit]

Vote AlanT

[Passacaglia]

But seriously, there were two bodyguards, and it caused a lot of confusion.

[Passacaglia]

The game before that, had multiple seers (granted, with limited power, just like in this case), and multiple bodyguards (again with limited power). But that was a game I ran, so it might not be the best example.

[Alan T]

Everyone is voting me without giving a good reason for it. I bet there is a wolf hiding in those votes somewhere.

[Passacaglia]

Looks like before that, there were three games where I don't see multiple roles. The game before that had two bodyguards who could PM each other. That was RendeR's game, actually (which makes me wonder why he was so adamant about there not being two bodyguards in the lolcat game, but that's another story).

[KWhit]

Interesting how all this played out.

Eaglefan mentioned in his fake reveal that he could scan every other night. How would he know that's how the seers worked in this game?

[Passacaglia]

Everyone is voting me without giving a good reason for it. I bet there is a wolf hiding in those votes somewhere.

Oh, sorry. I didn't know I needed to give a reason each day.

"The (or a) seer said you Alan T is a wolf, so I'm going to vote for him."

UNVOTE ALAN T
VOTE ALAN T

:)

[Telle]

Ok.. but why list that one role is a seer and not another if there are indeed two seers? Just seems odd to me.. but hey, it's not my game.

[Passacaglia]

Ok.. but why list that one role is a seer and not another if there are indeed two seers? Just seems odd to me.. but hey, it's not my game.

Cause they're both psychics? Why would he write psychic twice?

[Telle]

So you're saying there's two people with the same role, not just with the same role-type? And that's happened before? Weird.

[Schmidty]

I just got home from work a few minutes ago, and Mrs. S just left for work. She was running late so she told me to let you all know that she'll be home at about 7 p.m. EST, so she'll be voting and stuff.

[Schmidty]

So you're saying there's two people with the same role, not just with the same role-type? And that's happened before? Weird.

This is Lovecraft. Nothing is supposed to make sense. :)

In other news, I'm sick of red, so I'm going with my favorite color - orange.

[Alan T]

This is Lovecraft. Nothing is supposed to make sense. :)

In other news, I'm sick of red, so I'm going with my favorite color - orange.

Blue is my favorite color, can I post in it? :)

[Schmidty]

Actually, that's no very readable.

Back to red. :(

[PurdueBrad]

This is from the rules and it is something that is of concern that we need not lose sight of:


There are other role-specific victory conditions as well.



I know that a lot of you guys are going Alan T. and I will move to that if necessary but I would prefer to get the other sure wolf as I'm thinking that Alan T may have been truthful in that he has other win conditions (note that they were NOT villager positive). I'm thinking that the wolves killed Hoops so that we would kill Alan.

vote Telle

[Passacaglia]

So you're saying there's two people with the same role, not just with the same role-type? And that's happened before? Weird.

I guess, but the 'psychic' role seems like a good fit for it. They can communicate with each other, and learn each other's thoughts.

Why are you arguing against this, anyway? It's only going to drive people to vote for you.

[Schmidty]

Blue is my favorite color, can I post in it? :)

NO. I am the master of color here. Don't try to go all Pleasantville on me, damnit.

[Passacaglia]

PB and Kwhit, you guys are in the thread -- interested in revealing your major?

[PurdueBrad]

PB and Kwhit, you guys are in the thread -- interested in revealing your major?

I revealed before but Physics.

[claphamsa]

Let me think....last time I saw that, you'd probably have to go all the way back to.....last game. Ask RendeR about it! :)


HAH!

[Telle]

I guess, but the 'psychic' role seems like a good fit for it. They can communicate with each other, and learn each other's thoughts.

Why are you arguing against this, anyway? It's only going to drive people to vote for you.

Oh I'm just curious is all. It struck me as pretty odd.

Plus I don't think there's anything I can do to get out of getting lynched today. I'm not aware of having been converted, but how am I to prove that? Or maybe I was converted but I don't know it until later somehow? I dunno. Although I do wonder what happens now that the person who supposedly raised me from the dead is dead himself.

[Passacaglia]

I revealed before but Physics.

My bad, that does sound familiar.

[Passacaglia]

Oh I'm just curious is all. It struck me as pretty odd.

Plus I don't think there's anything I can do to get out of getting lynched today. I'm not aware of having been converted, but how am I to prove that? Or maybe I was converted but I don't know it until later somehow? I dunno. Although I do wonder what happens now that the person who supposedly raised me from the dead is dead himself.

It sounds more like you and Alan are trying to get you lynched instead of him.

[Passacaglia]

Kwhit, how about you for a reveal? And Jets is in here, too. I think it would help a lot.

[Telle]

Well I'd prefer Alan be lynched since I'd like to live :) Plus I don't think I'm a wolf.

[Alan T]

It sounds more like you and Alan are trying to get you lynched instead of him.

I am absolutely interested in getting her lynched instead of me. I am glad that I am getting at least part of my message through loud and clear! :)

[Passacaglia]

Well I'd prefer Alan be lynched since I'd like to live :) Plus I don't think I'm a wolf.

Sounds like this day is confusing you. You're not sure Racer is a seer, but you believe hoops was (right?) -- but on the other hand, hoops vouched for Racer. So are you on board with lynching Alan, or not?

[KWhit]

Kwhit, how about you for a reveal? And Jets is in here, too. I think it would help a lot.

I don't think it's time for that yet. There's no need in helping the wolves narrow down who the roles are yet - since we have 2 days of pretty certain votes (Alan and Telle).

I think the time to reveal our majors is after we lynch the two of them. The info we gain does us no good until we lynch those two and it can only help the wolves at this point.

Does that make sense?

[Passacaglia]

I am absolutely interested in getting her lynched instead of me. I am glad that I am getting at least part of my message through loud and clear! :)

What's the other part, again? That you're not a wolf, but you're not a villager, and you have a separate win condition?

[Telle]

Well of course I believe hoops was a seer. The night kill write-up said he was a psychic and the psychic role is listed as being a seer.

VOTE ALAN T

[Passacaglia]

I don't think it's time for that yet. There's no need in helping the wolves narrow down who the roles are yet - since we have 2 days of pretty certain votes (Alan and Telle).

I think the time to reveal our majors is after we lynch the two of them. The info we gain does us no good until we lynch those two and it can only help the wolves at this point.

Does that make sense?

If you think you need to keep yours a secret, I understand. No one has to, but it would help me a lot. If that makes me look suspicious, I'm fine with that.

[Telle]

I don't think it's time for that yet. There's no need in helping the wolves narrow down who the roles are yet - since we have 2 days of pretty certain votes (Alan and Telle).

I think the time to reveal our majors is after we lynch the two of them. The info we gain does us no good until we lynch those two and it can only help the wolves at this point.

Does that make sense?

Well it might help us sniff out those two alternate roles.

[KWhit]

Sorry my post was rambling above, but I wanted to hurry and get that out before anyone else revealed.

I hope my point made sense. I don't want to give the wolves any additional information to use to help them in their night kill selections at this point.

[KWhit]

Well it might help us sniff out those two alternate roles.

Do you mean it might help you sniff out who to night-kill tonight?

[Passacaglia]

Sorry my post was rambling above, but I wanted to hurry and get that out before anyone else revealed.

I hope my point made sense. I don't want to give the wolves any additional information to use to help them in their night kill selections at this point.

I think we're okay on that point -- we've already got the seer outed, so the emphasis will be on keeping him alive for now. I think people can make their own call about it.

[Telle]

Do you mean it might help you sniff out who to night-kill tonight?

First off, to my knowledge I am not a wolf. And thus I have no ability to night kill.

Secondly, why would the wolves even care about the alternate roles?

[KWhit]

If you think you need to keep yours a secret, I understand. No one has to, but it would help me a lot. If that makes me look suspicious, I'm fine with that.

Nothing too super-secret, but I'd rather not reveal at this point.

[Alan T]

What's the other part, again? That you're not a wolf, but you're not a villager, and you have a separate win condition?

I'll be pretty much ok with whatever that would get me off the hook at this point. At the point I am in this game, I'm pretty sure that I am a goner, it is just a matter of time. :)

I assume that you all won't be kicking yourselves when I die, but you sure are going to wish that you had lynched Telle instead of me. Since killing me doesn't really help you much.

[KWhit]

First off, to my knowledge I am not a wolf. And thus I have no ability to night kill.

Secondly, why would the wolves even care about the alternate roles?

First off, I don't believe you.

Second off, the more information the wolves have about anyone, the easier it is for them to narrow down the list of people who might have roles that they do care about like the bodyguard.

[KWhit]

I'll be pretty much ok with whatever that would get me off the hook at this point. At the point I am in this game, I'm pretty sure that I am a goner, it is just a matter of time. :)

I assume that you all won't be kicking yourselves when I die, but you sure are going to wish that you had lynched Telle instead of me. Since killing me doesn't really help you much.

I doubt that the order in which we lynch you and Telle will matter all that much.

[Alan T]

I doubt that the order in which we lynch you and Telle will matter all that much.

It matters for me :(

[KWhit]

Yes, I suppose it does.

[Passacaglia]

I'll be pretty much ok with whatever that would get me off the hook at this point. At the point I am in this game, I'm pretty sure that I am a goner, it is just a matter of time. :)

I assume that you all won't be kicking yourselves when I die, but you sure are going to wish that you had lynched Telle instead of me. Since killing me doesn't really help you much.

You could try being open about your win conditions. It might only buy you a day, but who knows? Maybe we find a wolf tomorrow and let you live another day. The fact that you haven't disclosed them leads me to think that it's something we should be worrying about more than the wolves, who will still be able to kill, even if we get Telle.

[KWhit]

Hey, you lasted a day longer than you probably should have!

Look at the silver lining!

[Alan T]

You could try being open about your win conditions. It might only buy you a day, but who knows? Maybe we find a wolf tomorrow and let you live another day. The fact that you haven't disclosed them leads me to think that it's something we should be worrying about more than the wolves, who will still be able to kill, even if we get Telle.


You're probably right.. you wouldn't like my winning conditions. Of course the wolves might not either. Luckily for me, I should be a lower priority to them just like I should be a lower priority to you. I'd probably just get in everyone's way though so best to eliminate me before I cause more problems right? :)

After you kill me though, you'll have to then go back and revisit yesterday's vote..Knowing that I'm not a wolf, and someone outs me as a wolf, the wolves know I'm not a wolf.. how would they have played yesterday? How would they play today? :)

[Passacaglia]

You're probably right.. you wouldn't like my winning conditions. Of course the wolves might not either. Luckily for me, I should be a lower priority to them just like I should be a lower priority to you. I'd probably just get in everyone's way though so best to eliminate me before I cause more problems right? :)

After you kill me though, you'll have to then go back and revisit yesterday's vote..Knowing that I'm not a wolf, and someone outs me as a wolf, the wolves know I'm not a wolf.. how would they have played yesterday? How would they play today? :)

So you're not going to say what your win conditions are? Got it.

[Alan T]

So you're not going to say what your win conditions are? Got it.


I would think you would be nicer to me. I know more about the rolled villagers than they know about me. I guess I could release a list of who those would be.. but not sure who it would help more.. Not like it matters to the wolves too much right now since they are preoccupied with Racer and Mrs.Schmidty.

[Passacaglia]

I would think you would be nicer to me. I know more about the rolled villagers than they know about me. I guess I could release a list of who those would be.. but not sure who it would help more.. Not like it matters to the wolves too much right now since they are preoccupied with Racer and Mrs.Schmidty.

Right. :p

[Passacaglia]

Hey olie, henry, and Render!! Interested in making your own reveals before Alan outs you? :)

[RendeR]

Interesting choice to go after Hoops. The two seer dynamic is an interesting one. I'm wondering if Racer and Hoops shouln't have hinted at who would be scanning last night so that the BG could have covered him instead of (I'm assuming) racer.

So we had two seers, I'm hoping we have 2 BG's too so that racer gets protected tonight. Though at this stage I think we can develop a prety solid COT and hunt down the last 1 or 2 wolves with little difficulty.

Have I voted yet?

just in case:

VOTE ALAN T

[RendeR]

Hey olie, henry, and Render!! Interested in making your own reveals before Alan outs you? :)


Nope, at least not at this time. We have Alan and telle to lynch, then sure, I'll put my major out there. Its not really connected to much but I suppose the wolves could fathom something from it.

At this point we know I'm good (racer/hoops scan) so I'm going to leave it at that until we have the next two out of the way.

And Alan, its all just mind over matter, we don't mind, and you won't matter after we hang you from the angle irons....:D

[Passacaglia]

path is here! There's a guy who I know is on pins and needles, wanting to tell me his major!

[Alan T]

Nope, at least not at this time. We have Alan and telle to lynch, then sure, I'll put my major out there. Its not really connected to much but I suppose the wolves could fathom something from it.

At this point we know I'm good (racer/hoops scan) so I'm going to leave it at that until we have the next two out of the way.

And Alan, its all just mind over matter, we don't mind, and you won't matter after we hang you from the angle irons....:D

I was trying to think of some witty come back to this.. but I fail horribly!

[henry296]

I still have some doubts that AlanT is 100% wolf because of the other teams that appear to be in the role description. i vote we go after the known wolf.

VOTE Telle

I have meetings the rest of the day and then out to dinner with work. I hope to back on by 8:30.

I'm a statistics major.

[Schmidty]

By the way, if anyone who's out of the game and wants to know the roles, I have a long-winded listing of them all and their abilities, and will PM them at your request. Just the role powers that the players themselves know, not other mechanics and stuff.

(I asked BK if he thought it was ok and he said it was my call. I trust everyone to not be cheaters, so ask and you shall receive...)

[path12]

So you're saying there's two people with the same role, not just with the same role-type? And that's happened before? Weird.

I ran a game with more than one bodyguard, and the Divination Nation games where everyone is a seer.

[path12]

Kwhit, how about you for a reveal? And Jets is in here, too. I think it would help a lot.

I don't get why you think it will be such a help. I'm not totally averse to it, but I'm also not seeing the point.

[oliegirl]

I have no problem releasing my role...I'm a student of Architecture. That was all the information I was given.

I think at this point, I'm willing to give Alan another day...I see no reason for him to admit that he has alternative win conditions that are bad for villagers. I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt for another day and see what happens tonight.

VOTE TELLE

[path12]

First off, to my knowledge I am not a wolf. And thus I have no ability to night kill.



Then here is my question for you, Telle.

Mrs. Schmidty outed EagleFan yesterday by saying she saw him slit your throat and bring you back to life, which certainly would sound like a conversion. Subsequently EagleFan was lynched and proved to be a wolf, lending credence to Mrs. Schmidty's story.

Now, given all this, what possible motivation would Mrs. Schmidty have to toss EagleFan under the bus yet frame you?

[KWhit]

I study Astronomical Science, and I have a part-time job at the library.

I'm curious about this. Does your part time job at the library have any in-game benefit?

[Alan T]

Maybe we can come to some form of laissez-faire here.. What if the students and wolves both leave me alone, and I promise to be a good boy and leave you all alone for a while? You can even have Mrs.Schmidty try to follow me every day if you wanted to make sure that I'm behaving, and if I don't then you can lynch me?

[path12]

path is here! There's a guy who I know is on pins and needles, wanting to tell me his major!

You are being endlessly disappointed today, aren't you! ;)

[Passacaglia]

I don't get why you think it will be such a help. I'm not totally averse to it, but I'm also not seeing the point.

I think a reveal can help keep you alive, if you're a villager.

[Alan T]

I think a reveal can help keep you alive, if you're a villager.


Why would you want to kill poor Path before Telle? :confused:

[Passacaglia]

Why would you want to kill poor Path before Telle? :confused:

;)

[path12]

Hell, why not. Not like I've got a role. Liberal Arts, baby.

[KWhit]

There is way too much information being shared at this point by the villagers, IMO.

[Alan T]

There is way too much information being shared at this point by the villagers, IMO.

I agree fully. I lose my value to the villagers if you all share this information yourselves.

[KWhit]

I agree fully. I lose my value to the villagers if you all share this information yourselves.

You don't know anything, you're just trying to save your skin another day.

[KWhit]

You don't know anything, you're just trying to save your skin another day.


Yes, I know that is the most obvious statement ever in the history of the universe.

[Alan T]

You don't know anything, you're just trying to save your skin another day.

You are right that I am trying to save my skin another day!

You are incorrect about the not knowing anything part however! Everyone blames poor Hoops for outing the seer after all, but it really was me. I could provide a bit more information about some roles, but I'm trying to pass myself off as a more villager friendly Alan T right now.. and you wouldn't like that very much would you Kwhit?

[Passacaglia]

I agree fully. I lose my value to the villagers if you all share this information yourselves.

Good thing we're planning to kill you anyway.

[KWhit]

You are right that I am trying to save my skin another day!

You are incorrect about the not knowing anything part however! Everyone blames poor Hoops for outing the seer after all, but it really was me. I could provide a bit more information about some roles, but I'm trying to pass myself off as a more villager friendly Alan T right now.. and you wouldn't like that very much would you Kwhit?

You're funny. I was wondering when this would start. Dropping little hints here or there that so-and-so is a wolf, or such-and-such is a roled villager.

I know well enough to know that some of it might be true, some of it might be false and I can ignore it all.

[Alan T]

Good thing we're planning to kill you anyway.


Hey, put away your torches and pitchforks Gaston!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Turlos/gaston.jpg

I am just misunderstood right now. All I need is for Henry269 to love me before my last rose petal falls and I will turn into a prince once again.

[Alan T]

You're funny. I was wondering when this would start. Dropping little hints here or there that so-and-so is a wolf, or such-and-such is a roled villager.

I know well enough to know that some of it might be true, some of it might be false and I can ignore it all.

I could use the same line I used with Hoops previously when I told him that I knew what he was, but that didn't end so well for poor Hoopsguy.. I'm afraid if I did the same thing with you, they might eat you also... so I'll refrain out of safety concerns for you!

[oliegirl]

I'm out for a while, heading to the pool for some relaxation :)

[Axxon]

I have no problem releasing my role...I'm a student of Architecture. That was all the information I was given.

I think at this point, I'm willing to give Alan another day...I see no reason for him to admit that he has alternative win conditions that are bad for villagers. I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt for another day and see what happens tonight.

VOTE TELLE

Interesting major but unfortunately, there is no Architecture major at Miskatonic University.

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[Axxon]

FWIW, I believe that Alan T may well not be a wolf but in any case, he's not for our cause and I see no point in delaying the inevitable so a victory condition we can't know about might kick in.

VOTE ALAN T

[Passacaglia]

Axxon, what's your major?

[Alan T]

You all should allow me to live at least another day just so I can catch up 40 more posts to equal Hoopsguy in this game.

I mean, I could try to force all 40 of those posts today, but I am getting the impression that some people are not interested in much that I could say!

[Axxon]

I think I revealed that before anyone else did because I had no idea it was important at the time. I am an engineering student. See post 212.

[Passacaglia]

I think I revealed that before anyone else did because I had no idea it was important at the time. I am an engineering student. See post 212.

Sorry I missed it, dude.

[Passacaglia]

You all should allow me to live at least another day just so I can catch up 40 more posts to equal Hoopsguy in this game.

I mean, I could try to force all 40 of those posts today, but I am getting the impression that some people are not interested in much that I could say!

I'm listening.

[KWhit]

FWIW, I believe that Alan T may well not be a wolf but in any case, he's not for our cause and I see no point in delaying the inevitable so a victory condition we can't know about might kick in.

That's my fear as well. We know what the deal is with the wolves. AlanT is a wild card. Who knows? Maybe after x number of days, he opens the Necronomicon or whatever and BLAM! All hell breaks loose.

Let's get rid of this guy today.

[Alan T]

That's my fear as well. We know what the deal is with the wolves. AlanT is a wild card. Who knows? Maybe after x number of days, he opens the Necronomicon or whatever and BLAM! All hell breaks loose.

Let's get rid of this guy today.


Maybe lynching me opens the Necronomicon (whatever that even is), and you are falling right into a trap??

[Racer]

Alright guys, I just got back from a long run. Skimming through the posts, Alan T seems to be trying to spin it that he has alternate victory conditions then either the villagers or the wolves.

Let me make it very clear.

HOOPSGUY AND I CAN ONLY SCAN TO SEE IF A PLAYER IS PART OF THE ORDER OF R'LYEH! So if someone has alternate victory conditions, they are going to scan as a good guy. Therefore, if anyone has alternate victory conditions it would be Render. I am 100 percent sure Alan T is a wolf.

[Passacaglia]

Alan, I'll let you live another day if you reveal some roles.

[Alan T]

Alan, I'll let you live another day if you reveal some roles.


Hoopsguy was a psychic.

I'll be more than happy to share more if it buys me more trust!

[Passacaglia]

Hoopsguy was a psychic.

I'll be more than happy to share more if it buys me more trust!

Whenever you want to get serious, let me know.

[Alan T]

Whenever you want to get serious, let me know.

Who's role would you like to know?

Kwhit's? Henry's?

[Passacaglia]

Who's role would you like to know?

Kwhit's? Henry's?

I'm not picky.

[Alan T]

I'm not picky.


Good to hear.. let me live a little longer and I'll give you more!

[Racer]

Okay so I got an interesting PM from Schmidty. Apparently, Schmidty used random.org to determine whether or not Hoopsguy got his scan off. Random.org didn't like Hoops I guess. Should Mrs. Schmidty follow me tonight in case I get my scan off before I'm night killed(assuming I'm night killed)? That way she might see my reaction from whoever I scan? (I need to figure out whether or not I scan people in person or not).

[Alan T]

By the way, you'll likely find the wolves in the group of people voting for me. I'm guessing they are just as afraid to keep me around as the villagers are. After all, since I've voted for a wolf every day so far, I'm guessing they might be wondering if I know who they are or not.

[Alan T]

Okay so I got an interesting PM from Schmidty. Apparently, Schmidty used random.org to determine whether or not Hoopsguy got his scan off. Random.org didn't like Hoops I guess. Should Mrs. Schmidty follow me tonight in case I get my scan off before I'm night killed(assuming I'm night killed)? That way she might see my reaction from whoever I scan? (I need to figure out whether or not I scan people in person or not).

You don't scan people in person.

Hope that helps!

[Racer]

Who's role would you like to know?

Kwhit's? Henry's?

Did those players already reveal though?

[Alan T]

Did those players already reveal though?

Aren't you the seer? Why don't you scan them and find out yourself?? :p

[Passacaglia]

Good to hear.. let me live a little longer and I'll give you more!

Sure. I promise not to do anything that would kill you until 9 PM Eastern tonight. If you haven't given anything by then....curtains!!!

But flip mark aside, I've got flag football tonight, so I'll be missing deadline. You'll probably want to try to change my vote by 6 PM Eastern, I'd say.

[Racer]

Aren't you the seer? Why don't you scan them and find out yourself?? :p

Like I said, I can't scan for roles. When I scan someone, I can only tell whether or not they are a wolf.

[Alan T]

Like I said, I can't scan for roles. When I scan someone, I can only tell whether or not they are a wolf.

Obviously you don't do that very well either :)

Once you actually scan a wolf and succeed, you'll see the difference in message I'm sure!

[Racer]

Anyways, is anyone interested in knowing who Hoops attempted to scan last night? I'm trying to think whether or not that's something that I should let everyone know.

[Telle]

Anyways, is anyone interested in knowing who Hoops attempted to scan last night? I'm trying to think whether or not that's something that I should let everyone know.

Does it even matter one way or the other?

[Racer]

Does it even matter one way or the other?

I'm not sure. It is important if you think Hoops does a good job with figuring out what players are wolves.

[Passacaglia]

It doesn't matter to me.

[RendeR]

Does it even matter one way or the other?


Not for you =):D:D:D:D

[Alan T]

I'm not sure. It is important if you think Hoops does a good job with figuring out what players are wolves.

Considering the only person who has found a wolf so far this game has been Ms.Schmidty, maybe you should ask her who is a wolf?

:popcorn:

[Passacaglia]

But hoops didn't get any info, right? So what good would it do to know? On the other hand, what harm would it do? Like I said, it doesn't matter to me.

[Passacaglia]

Unless you're asking if we want to know who hoops suspected enough to scan? That sounds good to me.

[RendeR]

Considering the only person who has found a wolf so far this game has been Ms.Schmidty, maybe you should ask her who is a wolf?

:popcorn:



I have two words for you:


Duct Tape

[Axxon]

:D

[oliegirl]

Interesting major but unfortunately, there is no Architecture major at Miskatonic University.



hxxp://www.miskatonic-university.org/

All I know is what was in my PM, it says that I'm studying Architecture, and that my extensive knowledge of building design may come in handy or it may not. That is it. I have no idea if additional roles were added in by Schmidty.

I'd never heard of this Miskatonic University before so I have no other information other than what I was given in my PM.

[Axxon]

All I know is what was in my PM, it says that I'm studying Architecture, and that my extensive knowledge of building design may come in handy or it may not. That is it. I have no idea if additional roles were added in by Schmidty.

I'd never heard of this Miskatonic University before so I have no other information other than what I was given in my PM.

I believe you and now I trust you. No one else had volunteered the additional information about the student role and I don't think a wolf would know to.

Mine said btw, Your ability to understand structure and design, may or may not help you.

[oliegirl]

What is the current vote count?

[Alan T]

What is the current vote count?

Alot for the non-wolf (me), and not nearly as many for the wolf (Telle)

[Mrs. Schmidty]

I just got home from work (early out sick). I'm just getting caught up on the last few pages...

[JetsIn06]

Sorry for the long delay. I was in class....I'm a biology major.

[oliegirl]

Alot for the non-wolf (me), and not nearly as many for the wolf (Telle)

Gah.

I really think it's best to get rid of the known wolf - Telle, first. Not saying we aren't going to lynch you, b/c we will, but we might be able to get some good information by waiting a day or two.

Is there anything else you can tell us about your role that will help convince everyone?

[Mrs. Schmidty]

I'm curious about this. Does your part time job at the library have any in-game benefit?

It gave her access to the vault where the Necronomicon was kept which is the book EF used to rez her.

[Alan T]

I just got home from work (early out sick). I'm just getting caught up on the last few pages...

Sorry that you are sick, hope you get feeling better soon.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Sorry that you are sick, hope you get feeling better soon.

Thanks :) I'm going to go take a nap and hope that I feel better after.

For now...

VOTE ALAN T

[RendeR]

It gave her access to the vault where the Necronomicon was kept which is the book EF used to rez her.



Care to explain where this little tid-bit of info came from and/or why you waited till now to tell us about it?

[Alan T]

Care to explain where this little tid-bit of info came from and/or why you waited till now to tell us about it?


Since she can follow people, I assume she knew where she followed Eaglefan to and witnessed that horrible scene, that if you don't vote Telle today might happen again...


or..


She is up on the theme of this game , assuming it is a theme that Schmidty likes so she might also like so knows this type of information where people like myself whom never had heard of Lovecraft before don't even know what she is talking about...

or...

She might be a wolf too, and outed two other wolves just to gain trust only to slip up on this and out herself...


or ..

I might be full of hot air, and none of these are true!

[RendeR]

Since she can follow people, I assume she knew where she followed Eaglefan to and witnessed that horrible scene, that if you don't vote Telle today might happen again...


or..


She is up on the theme of this game , assuming it is a theme that Schmidty likes so she might also like so knows this type of information where people like myself whom never had heard of Lovecraft before don't even know what she is talking about...

or...

She might be a wolf too, and outed two other wolves just to gain trust only to slip up on this and out herself...


or ..

I might be full of hot air, and none of these are true!


Please stop causing problems.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Care to explain where this little tid-bit of info came from and/or why you waited till now to tell us about it?

In Schmidy's very first post explaining the story he said that the Necronomicon was kept in the Libray Vault. In my reveal I said that EF pulled a book from Telle's bag, open it and recited an incantation that rezed her from the dead. I thought it was obvious (no disrespect meant) that the book was the Necronomicon.

When it was asked how her job at the library might benefit her I thought I would point out that's how she got the book.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Vote tally through post 1400:

(7) Alan T: Passacaglia (1253), Racer (1254), Kwhit (1277), Telle (1306), Render (1326), Axxon (1354), Mrs. Schmidty (1396)

(4) Telle: Alan T(1269), PurdueBrad (1291), Henry (1330), Oliegirl (1334)

[Mrs. Schmidty]

At the center of the campus, stands the historic, three story Orne Library. ......even more interesting is the mysterious Vault in the bowels of the building. .....forbidden books of ancient knowledge, dark grimoires of twisted rituals.... There is even the belief that the Vault may harbor the last existing copy of a tome so vile that it is said to have the power to bring back the dead to an “unlife” of servitude to the invoker. Worse yet, the tome may hold an even greater power – the power to rouse beings that a sane person could never fathom, nor would ever want to. That tome is called the Necronomicon


For reference

[oliegirl]

In Schmidy's very first post explaining the story he said that the Necronomicon was kept in the Libray Vault. In my reveal I said that EF pulled a book from Telle's bag, open it and recited an incantation that rezed her from the dead. I thought it was obvious (no disrespect meant) that the book was the Necronomicon.

When it was asked how her job at the library might benefit her I thought I would point out that's how she got the book.

No offense Mrs S, but that seems like quite a stretch to me. We have no reason thus far to believe that Telle was in the library vault (unless I missed something). It might be true, but considering there has been no discussion or hints given that this book was the Necronomicon, to make that statement like you did and then give a reason like "I thought it was obvious", well it's pinging my wolfdar pretty hard.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

No offense Mrs S, but that seems like quite a stretch to me. We have no reason thus far to believe that Telle was in the library vault (unless I missed something). It might be true, but considering there has been no discussion or hints given that this book was the Necronomicon, to make that statement like you did and then give a reason like "I thought it was obvious", well it's pinging my wolfdar pretty hard.

LOL that's funny to me.

[oliegirl]

LOL that's funny to me.

I just think you need to really think things through before you post them, you are saying things which very well may be true, but the way you are saying them and assuming that everyone is following along with your train of thought, is, at least in my opinion, making you look suspicious. The "I LIVE" comment from day 1 combined with this is what's doing it for me. That's all I'm saying...

[path12]

I have to say that I figured that any book mentioned was the Necromicon, so my wolfdar isn't quite as pinged.

[oliegirl]

I have to say that I figured that any book mentioned was the Necromicon, so my wolfdar isn't quite as pinged.

But then Telle wouldn't be the Librarian, she would be The Bearer of the Necronomican, right? Maybe I'm over simplifying, but I don't like to assume anything in ww.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

But then Telle wouldn't be the Librarian, she would be The Bearer of the Necronomican, right? Maybe I'm over simplifying, but I don't like to assume anything in ww.

I don't see anywhere in Schmidty's post about a Librarian.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Telle had a book, EF killed her and used the book to res her. According to Telle she had a part time job in the library which gave her knowledge of the building's layout, which gave her access to the Necronomicon. The Necronomicon is believed to be albe to res people and make them servants to those that res them, therefore converting them. Again, I thought it was obvious that's why I didn't draw it out. :)
As far as the "I live" statement, I don't regret saying it in the least. It showed me just how intensely EVERYTHING is analyzed. I'm still happy that as of today, "I live!" :)

[Passacaglia]

If Telle is the Bearer of the Necronomicon, we need to lynch her now, people. Trust me on this one.

UNVOTE ALAN T
VOTE TELLE

[Alan T]

If Telle is the Bearer of the Necronomicon, we need to lynch her now, people. Trust me on this one.

UNVOTE ALAN T
VOTE TELLE

Oh suuuuure... I've been saying for 9 hours this but now we have to trust you??? What about trust ME??? :)


Everyone just assumes that I am up to no good, all I am trying to do is help you out here.

[path12]

I would love it if someone scanned Pass. Sooner rather than later. I'd like to know whether I should trust him or not.

[LoneStarGirl]

I am with the group that says we should go after the known wolf.

vote telle

And my major is criminal justice... which was not listed in that previous posts of majors.

[Alan T]

I would love it if someone scanned Pass. Sooner rather than later. I'd like to know whether I should trust him or not.

I trust him

[Passacaglia]

I trust him

Me too. Seriously, there's no need to scan me. Racer, if you feel like I'm the best option, just tell everyone I'm a wolf, and save your scan on someone else.

[Alan T]

Me too. Seriously, there's no need to scan me. Racer, if you feel like I'm the best option, just tell everyone I'm a wolf, and save your scan on someone else.

Looks like after we lynch Telle today, you all will be going after Pass tommorrow.

Let me tell you here and now that you wouldn't be voting for a wolf!


Just trying to help save scans for more useful targets. So in otherwords, I agree with Pass, no reason to scan him at all.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Updated count through post 1415 (also includes Chief's vote that was not before included)

7 Alan T: Chief Rum (1233), Racer (1254), Kwhit (1277), Telle (1306), Render (1326), Axxon (1354), Mrs. Schmidty (1396)

6 Telle: Alan T(1269), PurdueBrad (1291), Henry (1330), Oliegirl (1334), Passacaglia (1410), LoneStarGirl (1413)

[RendeR]

In Schmidy's very first post explaining the story he said that the Necronomicon was kept in the Libray Vault. In my reveal I said that EF pulled a book from Telle's bag, open it and recited an incantation that rezed her from the dead. I thought it was obvious (no disrespect meant) that the book was the Necronomicon.

When it was asked how her job at the library might benefit her I thought I would point out that's how she got the book.

It was not obvious to anyone no familiar with the genre (or that hasn't really re-read the intro page since day 1)

LOL that's funny to me.

But its true, as you play more you'll find that generalizing your posts instead of being very explicit with them will lead to a lot of suspicion.

Telle had a book, EF killed her and used the book to res her. According to Telle she had a part time job in the library which gave her knowledge of the building's layout, which gave her access to the Necronomicon. The Necronomicon is believed to be albe to res people and make them servants to those that res them, therefore converting them. Again, I thought it was obvious that's why I didn't draw it out. :)
As far as the "I live" statement, I don't regret saying it in the least. It showed me just how intensely EVERYTHING is analyzed. I'm still happy that as of today, "I live!" :)

A- you can't actually KNOW she had the book or that she had access to the necronomican.

B- If somehow you did specifically know these theings then you should have been much more specific about it when you revealed. I enjoyed your little story but glossing over plot points for the sake of prose doesn't help us here.


Thank you for clarifying what you meant.

[Passacaglia]

Looks like after we lynch Telle today, you all will be going after Pass tommorrow.

Let me tell you here and now that you wouldn't be voting for a wolf!


Just trying to help save scans for more useful targets. So in otherwords, I agree with Pass, no reason to scan him at all.

I'm just trying to leave it up to Racer. I'm asking him not to scan me, so he can use the scan on someone else. I realize that makes me look suspicious (I'm not a newbie here), and I'm fine with that. But I don't want to force Racer's hand. If he feels like I'm the best option, then I'd still rather he just gets me lynched, and uses the scan to find out about someone else.

[Alan T]

I'm just trying to leave it up to Racer. I'm asking him not to scan me, so he can use the scan on someone else. I realize that makes me look suspicious (I'm not a newbie here), and I'm fine with that. But I don't want to force Racer's hand. If he feels like I'm the best option, then I'd still rather he just gets me lynched, and uses the scan to find out about someone else.


Works for me, but like I said you're in my COT.. Hopefully everyone else will see our logic here too.

[Passacaglia]

Updated count through post 1415 (also includes Chief's vote that was not before included)

7 Alan T: Chief Rum (1233), Racer (1254), Kwhit (1277), Telle (1306), Render (1326), Axxon (1354), Mrs. Schmidty (1396)

6 Telle: Alan T(1269), PurdueBrad (1291), Henry (1330), Oliegirl (1334), Passacaglia (1410), LoneStarGirl (1413)

Thanks for the updated vote count. Seriously, if the Necronomicon was in Telle's bag, we need to lynch her TONIGHT.

[Passacaglia]

Works for me, but like I said you're in my COT.. Hopefully everyone else will see our logic here too.

I think people will at least realize that I must have a good reason to be acting like this, despite your efforts to hurt m by siding with me! :p

[oliegirl]

I don't see anywhere in Schmidty's post about a Librarian.

In post #1394 where you answered for Telle, someone (don't remember without going back and looking again) asked if Telle's part time job at the library had any bearing on the game. To me, someone who works at a library is a librarian.

[Racer]

I am with the group that says we should go after the known wolf.

vote telle

And my major is criminal justice... which was not listed in that previous posts of majors.

Both Telle and Alan T are known wolves. I will repeat this again for everyone to read. HOOPSGUY AND I CAN ONLY SCAN TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT A PLAYER IS A WOLF! If a player is not a wolf or a student, that player will scan as a villager. That means if anyone has alternate victory conditions, it would be Render.

Alan T is definitely a wolf.

[Alan T]

I think people will at least realize that I must have a good reason to be acting like this, despite your efforts to hurt m by siding with me! :p

Why would I want to hurt you? If it makes you feel any better my win condition doesn't have anything to do with killing you off! :thumbsup:

[Racer]

The most important thing again today is to make sure that the wolves can't force a tie so I'm willing to lynch either one as long as we lynch the other one tomorrow.

[Passacaglia]

In post #1394 where you answered for Telle, someone (don't remember without going back and looking again) asked if Telle's part time job at the library had any bearing on the game. To me, someone who works at a library is a librarian.

Thanks for making me look at post 1394 again, olie. I noticed that Mrs. Schmidty said she had ACCESS to the vault. She might not be the Bearer of the Necronomicon after all. I'd rather lynch her now just to be safe, but the fact that there's more doubt in my mind make me less frantic about it. Still, let's lynch Telle just to be safe -- again, trust me on this.

[Alan T]

Both Telle and Alan T are known wolves. I will repeat this again for everyone to read. HOOPSGUY AND I CAN ONLY SCAN TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT A PLAYER IS A WOLF! If a player is not a wolf or a student, that player will scan as a villager. That means if anyone has alternate victory conditions, it would be Render.

Alan T is definitely a wolf.


Don't throw poor Render under the bus, he doesn't have any alternate victory conditions. he is just a student. I am pretty sure the word wolf was not in your PM about me at all anywheres! You saw the same image I did when you tried to scan me, and I may be all scary and all, but that still doesn't make me a wolf.

[RendeR]

Thanks for the updated vote count. Seriously, if the Necronomicon was in Telle's bag, we need to lynch her TONIGHT.

You're forgetting the point that telle no longer has the book since EF ok it from her. WE lynched EF, where is the book now?

[Passacaglia]

Why would I want to hurt you? If it makes you feel any better my win condition doesn't have anything to do with killing you off! :thumbsup:

In a shocking event, I actually believe that. You might not be TRYING to tell the truth, but hey.

[Passacaglia]

You're forgetting the point that telle no longer has the book since EF ok it from her. WE lynched EF, where is the book now?

I'm not sure about that. If Telle is on the wolves side, they might just let her keep the Nec -- the Nark -- the Nac -- the book.

By the way, you were one of the people who didn't want to reveal a major, right?

[Alan T]

You're forgetting the point that telle no longer has the book since EF ok it from her. WE lynched EF, where is the book now?

Telle has it back... which his why I personally need you to lynch Telle today. If you don't want to do it for the villagers, do it for me!

[Alan T]

In a shocking event, I actually believe that. You might not be TRYING to tell the truth, but hey.


There is a subtle difference between me not telling everything and me lying! I'm not really lying about a whole lot today, but obviously keeping some things from you.

If I revealed everything either you all would lynch me for sure, or the wolves would night kill me. I have to guess the wolves care more about Racer and Mrs.Schmidty than me though, so I would live at least 2 more nights.. I'll only live at most 1 more day though unless you all find some other wolf to lynch instead of me

[Passacaglia]

There is a subtle difference between me not telling everything and me lying! I'm not really lying about a whole lot today, but obviously keeping some things from you.

If I revealed everything either you all would lynch me for sure, or the wolves would night kill me. I have to guess the wolves care more about Racer and Mrs.Schmidty than me though, so I would live at least 2 more nights.. I'll only live at most 1 more day though unless you all find some other wolf to lynch instead of me

Do you have a chance of meeting your win condition in 1 day? If not, you might as well give up.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

It was not obvious to anyone no familiar with the genre (or that hasn't really re-read the intro page since day 1)



But its true, as you play more you'll find that generalizing your posts instead of being very explicit with them will lead to a lot of suspicion.



A- you can't actually KNOW she had the book or that she had access to the necronomican.

B- If somehow you did specifically know these theings then you should have been much more specific about it when you revealed. I enjoyed your little story but glossing over plot points for the sake of prose doesn't help us here.


Thank you for clarifying what you meant.

I did not, do not know anything more than anyone else. My only exposure to lovecraft is hearing his name mentioned. I've never read, or seen his work before so I do not have any kind of advantage over anyone else. Honestly, I only read the initial post once, but I have a vivid imagination and pictured the library, vault and necronomicon in my head from day one. Just how my brain works.

I don't know how else to explain myself nor do I really think I need to. I see this, saw this, as more of a role playing game and not such a cut-throat analytical game. I thought there would be more clues given from the story teller, not just basing almost everything on what "he-said, she-said." I enjoy logic puzzles in RL for goodness sake and don't like to make assumptions that aren't based on hard evidence and am not used to having to spell things out.

As I said, I'll try to be more clear in the future. I feel like I'm being accused of cheating and not quite sure how to take that.

[Alan T]

Do you have a chance of meeting your win condition in 1 day? If not, you might as well give up.

No, it is looking pretty grim for me right now.


(That is yet another truth I have told today by the way)

[Passacaglia]

Racer, you're in the thread, and have a vote on Alan. I've already asked you for a lot of trust, and I'm going to ask for some more. Please put your vote on Telle.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Telle has it back... which his why I personally need you to lynch Telle today. If you don't want to do it for the villagers, do it for me!

I know EF took the book, but don't know that he gave it back to her....maybe he gave it to you...From what we know of the Nec when it's used to rez someone, they are then a servant. Would they give the book to a servant?

[Alan T]

I know EF took the book, but don't know that he gave it back to her....maybe he gave it to you...From what we know of the Nec when it's used to rez someone, they are then a servant. Would they give the book to a servant?

I wish they would give it to me. Unfortunately for me they found Telle before I did... which is why it would be nice if she could die.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

In post #1394 where you answered for Telle, someone (don't remember without going back and looking again) asked if Telle's part time job at the library had any bearing on the game. To me, someone who works at a library is a librarian.

K, thought you meant the Librarian as a role seperate from the Bearer of the Nec. I see no evidence that someone can't be "both" when one isn't a set role. :)

[Racer]

Racer, you're in the thread, and have a vote on Alan. I've already asked you for a lot of trust, and I'm going to ask for some more. Please put your vote on Telle.

What's the vote at? I don't care all that much who we lynch today as long as we lynch the other one. The main thing I want to do is avoid a tie tonight.

[oliegirl]

Mrs S, I'm not trying to say you are a wolf...I'm just saying that by answering for Telle, and by saying something, then going back and giving details that you left out the first time - it just makes everyone scrutinize what you are saying more than we already do :)

[Racer]

What's the vote at? I don't care all that much who we lynch today as long as we lynch the other one tomorrow. The main thing I want to do is avoid a tie tonight.

fixed.

[Alan T]

What's the vote at? I don't care all that much who we lynch today as long as we lynch the other one. The main thing I want to do is avoid a tie tonight.


7-6

Time to bring in the setup guy out of the pen.

[Passacaglia]

7 for Alan, 6 for Telle. I promise I will be after Alan tomorrow.

[Alan T]

7 for Alan, 6 for Telle. I promise I will be after Alan tomorrow.


Thats what all of the girls tell me :cry:

[Racer]

Unvote Alan T
Vote Telle

I don't know how Alan T has managed to wiggle his way out of being lynched two consecutive days. :rolleyes:

[Alan T]

Unvote Alan T
Vote Telle

I don't know how Alan T has managed to wiggle his way out of being lynched two consecutive days. :rolleyes:


People would wisely rather lynch the wolves.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

UNVOTE ALAN
VOTE TELLE

All the reasons already given. Hopefully we learn more about what Alan knows, if we can trust anything he says. Racers has said Alan's a wolf, but that only makes Alan on level ground with Telle with his scan. If the Bearer of the Nec (at least she had it at one point) makes her more dangerous, then by all means I'll change my vote to her. Hope that makes sense

[Racer]

By the way, if both Mrs. S and I survive the night, Mrs. S should follow me a night from now. That way, if I die that night, she will hopefully see who kills me and we can nab another wolf (since Alan T and Telle will be gone by then).

It might not be a bad idea for Mrs. S to follow me tonight either if she can follow the same person back-to-back nights.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Updated through post 1449:

5 Alan T: Chief Rum (1233), Kwhit (1277), Telle (1306), Render (1326), Axxon (1354)
8 Telle: Alan T(1269), PurdueBrad (1291), Henry (1330), Oliegirl (1334), Passacaglia (1410), LoneStarGirl (1413), Racer (1447), Mrs. Schmidty (1449)

Now time for my nap that I never took. I'll be on before the final tally.

[path12]

7 for Alan, 6 for Telle. I promise I will be after Alan tomorrow.

Question, Pass. I'd assume that if the wolves have the Necromicon now that they would pass it to whoever isn't under active suspicion currently (i.e. anyone other than Alan or Telle).

So if Telle didn't have the book, is the danger you warn of still applicable? Can only the Bearer do what you are hinting about?

[Alan T]

Question, Pass. I'd assume that if the wolves have the Necromicon now that they would pass it to whoever isn't under active suspicion currently (i.e. anyone other than Alan or Telle).

So if Telle didn't have the book, is the danger you warn of still applicable? Can only the Bearer do what you are hinting about?

I'm pretty sure my getting the book would be worse for them then for you.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Shhhhh Racer...shhhhhh :)

[Passacaglia]

Question, Pass. I'd assume that if the wolves have the Necromicon now that they would pass it to whoever isn't under active suspicion currently (i.e. anyone other than Alan or Telle).

So if Telle didn't have the book, is the danger you warn of still applicable? Can only the Bearer do what you are hinting about?

I *think* that it's more about the book, than the Bearer of it. I might have been more focused on the Bearer for a while, but I was probably wrong.

If your assumption is right, we're as good as gravy. If they can't pass it(maybe Telle still has it because it's always been on her, or something), then I figure we should go with Telle.

[RendeR]

Telle has it back... which his why I personally need you to lynch Telle today. If you don't want to do it for the villagers, do it for me!

Will you just shush, you're going to hang, I'd prefer it tonight because no matter your true role leaving you alive is a bad thing for us all, period.

Do you have a chance of meeting your win condition in 1 day? If not, you might as well give up.

We need to lynch Alan tonight, telle hiwle she may have BEEN the bearer o at least custodian of the book, she has almost certainly changed sides in some way and I'm betting her abilities at this point are far less dngerous than Alan's. He's doing a fair job of keeping everyone JUST enough confused to possibly leave him alive and I am truly hoping the rest of us aren't foolish enough to allow that any longer. he's got to go if only to alleviate a known bad guy and to shut him up =) PLEASE, vote alan T, don't leave this close enough for them to force a tie or let alan slip away for another day.

I did not, do not know anything more than anyone else. My only exposure to lovecraft is hearing his name mentioned. I've never read, or seen his work before so I do not have any kind of advantage over anyone else. Honestly, I only read the initial post once, but I have a vivid imagination and pictured the library, vault and necronomicon in my head from day one. Just how my brain works.

I don't know how else to explain myself nor do I really think I need to. I see this, saw this, as more of a role playing game and not such a cut-throat analytical game. I thought there would be more clues given from the story teller, not just basing almost everything on what "he-said, she-said." I enjoy logic puzzles in RL for goodness sake and don't like to make assumptions that aren't based on hard evidence and am not used to having to spell things out.

As I said, I'll try to be more clear in the future. I feel like I'm being accused of cheating and not quite sure how to take that.


No one is accusing you of cheating at all, but yes this is a much more cut-throat style of play than I think you were expecting. Unless you really want attention drawn to you avoid assumptions altogther, or at the very least explain very specifically why you think something is what it is.

Its all good.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

B- If somehow you did specifically know these theings then you should have been much more specific about it when you revealed. I enjoyed your little story but glossing over plot points for the sake of prose doesn't help us here.

[/quote]

I didn't gloss over any details, I was told in my PM that it was a book, not specifically the Nec. I connected the dots.

[Schmidty]

Ok, I haven't slept much in the past two days. I'm going to try to force myself to go to sleep like I (unsuccessfully) did yesterday before the deadline.

I will say one thing: I am going to be much less.....flowery with my crappy prose in the result post tonight. I think I've overused every single "You do this", "You all blah, blah, blah", "Instantly", "Suddenly", etc. that I possibly could, so I'm going to stow it for now. :)

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Bah I deleted too much, but that was Render that I was responding too - sorry I butchered your quote. :)

[Racer]

Reading what Render just posted, I'm going to switch my vote back for now.

Unvote Telle
Vote Alan T

[Alan T]

Will you just shush, you're going to hang, I'd prefer it tonight because no matter your true role leaving you alive is a bad thing for us all, period.

We need to lynch Alan tonight, telle hiwle she may have BEEN the bearer o at least custodian of the book, she has almost certainly changed sides in some way and I'm betting her abilities at this point are far less dngerous than Alan's. He's doing a fair job of keeping everyone JUST enough confused to possibly leave him alive and I am truly hoping the rest of us aren't foolish enough to allow that any longer. he's got to go if only to alleviate a known bad guy and to shut him up =) PLEASE, vote alan T, don't leave this close enough for them to force a tie or let alan slip away for another day.

No one is accusing you of cheating at all, but yes this is a much more cut-throat style of play than I think you were expecting. Unless you really want attention drawn to you avoid assumptions altogther, or at the very least explain very specifically why you think something is what it is.

Its all good.


Man, and all of this after I helped clear you earlier when Racer was accusing you of being a third party with seperate win conditions.

I'm totally taking you off of my Christmas fruitcake list

[Racer]

Man, and all of this after I helped clear you earlier when Racer was accusing you of being a third party with seperate win conditions.

I'm totally taking you off of my Christmas fruitcake list

I didn't accuse him of that Alan T. I basically implied it was a remote possibility.

[hoopsguy]

Man, and all of this after I helped clear you earlier when Racer was accusing you of being a third party with seperate win conditions.

I'm totally taking you off of my Christmas fruitcake list

Too easy.

[RendeR]

Unvote Alan T
Vote Telle

I don't know how Alan T has managed to wiggle his way out of being lynched two consecutive days. :rolleyes:

Then Why on EARTH would you choose to switch your vote? (note I just saw you reverse back to Alan T, Thank you, please stay put on this one.)

UNVOTE ALAN
VOTE TELLE

All the reasons already given. Hopefully we learn more about what Alan knows, if we can trust anything he says. Racers has said Alan's a wolf, but that only makes Alan on level ground with Telle with his scan. If the Bearer of the Nec (at least she had it at one point) makes her more dangerous, then by all means I'll change my vote to her. Hope that makes sense

Again there is FAR too much assumption goingon with you and what you saw. You saw telle killed and ressurected, so how does that make her more dangerous? Alan is still a bigger danger here because he's all but admitted he NEEDS the book. If the book is still in play then we MUST kill Alan T tonight to eliminate that danger once and for all.



I didn't gloss over any details, I was told in my PM that it was a book, not specifically the Nec. I connected the dots.

I understand that you put 2 and 2 together but without showing your work WE as a group are left to read what you post and go "umm how the F do you know that or afact?" does that make more sense? I know I can be bad at getting my point across. I'm not upset or accusing or anything, just trying to help you understand that just because you connected the dots doesn't do so for anyone else NOR does it make your connection true and factual. You may well be dead on right, but we can't prove that from whats been posted thus far, we can only assume and assuming anything in this game gets villagers killed =)



Please folks, Think about this, IF the book is still out there, then we need to get rid of the person who has all but stated he wants it and needs it and needs to stay alive longer. We knows he's bad, we have a seer scan on him that says so. PLEASE lets not screw this up, lets get alan T out of the haystack so we can more safely search for the other needles.

Telle was killed and raised, based on everything we've been told/posted/seen that means she is a servant of something else. Servants aren't generally the real problem,, its like puppets, do you kill the cloth toy or the hand shoved up its ass making it move?

Lynch Alan tonight...PLEASE.


:banghead:

[Alan T]

Too easy.

Stop posting dead guy. I only have 13 more to catch up to you for this game!

[RendeR]

Man, and all of this after I helped clear you earlier when Racer was accusing you of being a third party with seperate win conditions.

I'm totally taking you off of my Christmas fruitcake list


What he said and what he meant are two different things, but thakn you for trying so hard to twist his words around to make me think badly of him.

you're dirty, shush up and die with some dignity =):lol:

[Alan T]

What he said and what he meant are two different things, but thakn you for trying so hard to twist his words around to make me think badly of him.

you're dirty, shush up and die with some dignity =):lol:


I guess I am just having a problem interpreting his posts then.. I am sure he can relate though since he misinterpreted his scan of me!

:deadhorse:

[Passacaglia]

telle hiwle she may have BEEN the bearer o at least custodian of the book, she has almost certainly changed sides in some way and I'm betting her abilities at this point are far less dngerous than Alan's

This is wrong. If she has the book, her abilities have not changed.

[Racer]

Stop posting dead guy. I only have 13 more to catch up to you for this game!

Curious, where can you access the information? The only thing I seem to be able to find is statistics about the forum, not an individual thread.

[Passacaglia]

I gotta notice that once again, RendeR and oliegirl are the most vocally suspicious of the simplest argument.

[Alan T]

Curious, where can you access the information? The only thing I seem to be able to find is statistics about the forum, not an individual thread.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/forumdisplay.php?f=31#

On the main WW forum page, click on the number where the total posts for this thread is listed and it will break it down by user

[Passacaglia]

Again there is FAR too much assumption goingon with you and what you saw. You saw telle killed and ressurected, so how does that make her more dangerous?

That's not the point. If Telle had the book, and might still have it, she needs to be lynched. It's pro-village.

[Alan T]

I gotta notice that once again, RendeR and oliegirl are the most vocally suspicious of the simplest argument.

I already cleared Render, he's a good guy. No reason to be suspicious of him. Oliegirl on the other hand sure seems to be acting odd!

[RendeR]

This is wrong. If she has the book, her abilities have not changed.


Perhaps so, but we KNOW EF took the book from her at one point, we do NOT know that he ever gave it back or handed it off or kept it and took it with him to the great cess pool of filth beyond.

We DO know that Alan NEEDs the book, We have two parts of a bad situation here, the book as an unknown and Alan as a known factor, getting rid of Alan keeps the book away from him and stops AY plans he has from working out.

I'm not saying your wrong at all, Telle may in act be quite dangerous, we really don't KNOW this, she, like the status of the book are completel unknowns. Alan is a KNOWN problem and my guts are telling me Alan MUST go and the sooner the better for us all.

You guys didn't believe me yesterday until we finally lynched EF and I was shown to be right. Give ME a smidgeon of trust tonight and take Alan down. Telle will be there for tomorrow night.

[Passacaglia]

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/forumdisplay.php?f=31#

On the main WW forum page, click on the number where the total posts for this thread is listed and it will break it down by user


Note, however, that you will show up as viewing the thread if you do that! :)

[Axxon]

I don't buy that the bearer role was set up the way we're being led to think it is. What good is the role if it simply switches you from student to wolf? That's too convenient. I can accept that maybe the book allows a resurrection but not necessarily to the wolves side. I think focusing on the book not the bearer is a mistake.

[Racer]

I guess I am just having a problem interpreting his posts then.. I am sure he can relate though since he misinterpreted his scan of me!

:deadhorse:

I already replied to this. I said there was a remote possibility that Render could have an alternate victory condition as long as I didn't misunderstand my initial PM from Schmidty that told me what my role was. For what it is worth, Hoops found his heart to be good when he scanned him.

[Alan T]

Note, however, that you will show up as viewing the thread if you do that! :)

Haha.. good times

[Alan T]

I already replied to this. I said there was a remote possibility that Render could have an alternate victory condition as long as I didn't misunderstand my initial PM from Schmidty that told me what my role was. For what it is worth, Hoops found his heart to be good when he scanned him.


So basically it all comes down to the fact that because not everything that I am around for is necessarily pro-villager , you say my heart isn't good? I help old ladies cross the street, you can't fault me because I don't want every villager to live.. I have no beef or quarrels with the rest of the students, only certain ones!

[RendeR]

That's not the point. If Telle had the book, and might still have it, she needs to be lynched. It's pro-village.

IF IF IF, think about this Pass. Don't assume anything more than what we KNOW to be true. We don;t KNOW IF the book is still in play, we don;t KNOW IF telle was the actual bearer, we don;t KNOW if she's a simple convert or something more. its all guesswork on that.

We KNOW alan wants the book, we KNOW alan is bad. Why is this even being questioned?

I already cleared Render, he's a good guy. No reason to be suspicious of him. Oliegirl on the other hand sure seems to be acting odd!


Alan YOU did NOT clear me. Racer/Hoops scaned me night 1 and cleared me, stop trying to take credit for things you can't and did not do. *rummages around for that damned Duct tape.....

[Racer]

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/forumdisplay.php?f=31#

On the main WW forum page, click on the number where the total posts for this thread is listed and it will break it down by user

Cool. I'm fourth currently.

[Racer]

So basically it all comes down to the fact that because not everything that I am around for is necessarily pro-villager , you say my heart isn't good? I help old ladies cross the street, you can't fault me because I don't want every villager to live.. I have no beef or quarrels with the rest of the students, only certain ones!

:rolleyes:

[RendeR]

And to answer the obvious question as to why I'm being so aggressive about all this, I can't be here at deadline. I have a tennis match tonight and while I'm not in the lineup at this point I always attend to support my team.

Please folks, look at the way he's been acting, look at whats been laid out as facts and don't succomb to assumptions. Killing off one half of a huge threat is just as good as another. The known threat is Alan, Please Lets get rid of that threat tonight.

[path12]

Please folks, Think about this, IF the book is still out there, then we need to get rid of the person who has all but stated he wants it and needs it and needs to stay alive longer. We knows he's bad, we have a seer scan on him that says so. PLEASE lets not screw this up, lets get alan T out of the haystack so we can more safely search for the other needles.

Telle was killed and raised, based on everything we've been told/posted/seen that means she is a servant of something else. Servants aren't generally the real problem,, its like puppets, do you kill the cloth toy or the hand shoved up its ass making it move?

I think the question is this, RendeR. I'm gathering from what Pass has mentioned that there is least a possibility that the Bearer of the Necromicon, especially if converted, could swing the game. That may trump Alan priority-wise. (You'll remember that I was one who yesterday argued repeatedly for lynching Alan then).

I'm not sure which way I'm going yet.

[path12]

You guys didn't believe me yesterday until we finally lynched EF and I was shown to be right. Give ME a smidgeon of trust tonight and take Alan down. Telle will be there for tomorrow night.


This irritates the fuck out of me. You didn't scan EF as a wolf, for God's sakes, and if we would have lynched Alan yesterday as others wanted to then you wouldn't have to be pushing it today. Sheesh.

[oliegirl]

I already cleared Render, he's a good guy. No reason to be suspicious of him. Oliegirl on the other hand sure seems to be acting odd!

How the hell am I acting odd? I have a vote on Telle and have been saying all day that we should give you another chance.

My thought is that when EF died, the book went back to the person who had it last. No reason for this other than it's what seems to be the most logical explanation. Giving it to the "lead" wolf would make him that much more powerful and give the wolves an unfair advantage IMO.

[Passacaglia]

IF IF IF, think about this Pass. Don't assume anything more than what we KNOW to be true. We don;t KNOW IF the book is still in play, we don;t KNOW IF telle was the actual bearer, we don;t KNOW if she's a simple convert or something more. its all guesswork on that.

We KNOW alan wants the book, we KNOW alan is bad. Why is this even being questioned?




Alan YOU did NOT clear me. Racer/Hoops scaned me night 1 and cleared me, stop trying to take credit for things you can't and did not do. *rummages around for that damned Duct tape.....

The book is still in play. If she had the book at some point, that's enough for me.

[Racer]

Can we just please lynch Alan T today so he stops posting so much? ;)

[Passacaglia]

You guys didn't believe me yesterday until we finally lynched EF and I was shown to be right. Give ME a smidgeon of trust tonight and take Alan down. Telle will be there for tomorrow night.

I think I've proven myself more interested in helping the villagers than you this game. You've mostly cast suspicion on our roled characters. I have to go in ten minutes, but will try to answer questions while I am here.

[Alan T]

How the hell am I acting odd? I have a vote on Telle and have been saying all day that we should give you another chance.

My thought is that when EF died, the book went back to the person who had it last. No reason for this other than it's what seems to be the most logical explanation. Giving it to the "lead" wolf would make him that much more powerful and give the wolves an unfair advantage IMO.


You're right I apologize. I'm big enough to admit when I make a mistake. Let's hope Racer does the same before it is too late.

[RendeR]

This irritates the fuck out of me. You didn't scan EF as a wolf, for God's sakes, and if we would have lynched Alan yesterday as others wanted to then you wouldn't have to be pushing it today. Sheesh.


ease up tonto, I'm not claiming I made any scan or any specific revlation. What I DiD do yesterday was realize we needed to change the focus of the days movement because Alant and Hoops badgering one another was mucking things up so badly that I eared we'd lose out on getting anyone on the bad side lynched, so I turned (note my post where I stated I wanted to take a lead role on somethng) the focus onto what we knew (thanks to Mrs. S) was a wolf. most people argued with me all night long but in the end I was right.

I'm simply asking that you put a little faith in my deductions and my logic here as well as my gut instincts that tell me Alan needs to go next. Yes we could have gotten him yesterday, perhaps so, but I didn't trust the way people were waving on the hoops/alan front.

Thats realy it.

I have to close up shop and get out of here. I'm sory you're irritated path, I'm not trying to steal anyone's glory, I'm just asking that you trust my judgement one more day. If I'm wrong the blame is entirely mine. I really don't think I'm wrong here. Everything I'm reading and seeing tells me this is the next BEST step.

[RendeR]

The book is still in play. If she had the book at some point, that's enough for me.


You don't KNOW that. Give us the evidence if you do. I agree with you that it certainly COULD be, but we don;t know it for a fact Pass. Thats all I'm trying to do here, focus on what we KNOW to be true.

[Axxon]

I think the question is this, RendeR. I'm gathering from what Pass has mentioned that there is least a possibility that the Bearer of the Necromicon, especially if converted, could swing the game. That may trump Alan priority-wise. (You'll remember that I was one who yesterday argued repeatedly for lynching Alan then).

I'm not sure which way I'm going yet.

Can anyone explain why we feel the bearer of the necronomicon can be converted. I'm not getting it. Either that's the entire point of the role, to be converted, or the bearer is a converter and converts to a third party. Otherwise, what would be the victory condition of the role?

I'm open to understanding it but right now that doesn't add up. Unfortunately, neither does any other answer add up but I'm working on it.

The one thing I do know is that hoopsguy fingered Alan T and he turned out to be a seer. That's a fact.

So, we're chasing shadows of what might be instead of getting rid of what we know is. I guess we did that last night but I'm just not so comfortable pressing our luck that way again tonight because we're so focussed on the whole Telle got resurrected by the book she was suppsedly holding herself and that doesn't sit well with me at all.

[RendeR]

I think I've proven myself more interested in helping the villagers than you this game. You've mostly cast suspicion on our roled characters. I have to go in ten minutes, but will try to answer questions while I am here.


This post is a bit odd, you want to explain the bitterness here buddy? You're trying to make me look bad here, why? I've been scaned good, I've gone balls to the wall to giude us in the right direction, why are you trying to make me look bad here?

:confused:

[KWhit]

I'm just trying to leave it up to Racer. I'm asking him not to scan me, so he can use the scan on someone else. I realize that makes me look suspicious (I'm not a newbie here), and I'm fine with that. But I don't want to force Racer's hand. If he feels like I'm the best option, then I'd still rather he just gets me lynched, and uses the scan to find out about someone else.

I don't think you're suspicious. It seems clear to me what you're doing.

[Passacaglia]

This post is a bit odd, you want to explain the bitterness here buddy? You're trying to make me look bad here, why? I've been scaned good, I've gone balls to the wall to giude us in the right direction, why are you trying to make me look bad here?

:confused:

No bitterness was intended -- I just feel like you spent most of the past few days immediately rejecting any kind of information we've got. I don't have time to dig it up, but I encourage people trying to decide what to do to go back and look.

[RendeR]

No bitterness was intended -- I just feel like you spent most of the past few days immediately rejecting any kind of information we've got. I don't have time to dig it up, but I encourage people trying to decide what to do to go back and look.


I've done exactly what I said in the other post. We were faultering on Alan and hoops yesterday, the votes were all over the place and the argument was geting us nowhere, so I picked a fact (EF killed Telle and Rased her) and pushed everyone in that direction to avoid the confusion.

If I was wrong or hurting the village in that then I....oh wait, I wasn't wrong...damn, that crimps your theory a bit....

So whats your real reason?

[Axxon]

Tap, tap, tap. Hello? Did I get stuck in jbmagic mode or does no one feel my question is worth following up on? :)

[RendeR]

Ok, I'm out till late. I'll check the club to se if they have wireless and if I don't end up playing I'll log in while I watch the guys get reamed without me on the court.


*good god who is this arrogant fuck named RendeR???*

[oliegirl]

Can anyone explain why we feel the bearer of the necronomicon can be converted. I'm not getting it. Either that's the entire point of the role, to be converted, or the bearer is a converter and converts to a third party. Otherwise, what would be the victory condition of the role?

I'm open to understanding it but right now that doesn't add up. Unfortunately, neither does any other answer add up but I'm working on it.

The one thing I do know is that hoopsguy fingered Alan T and he turned out to be a seer. That's a fact.

So, we're chasing shadows of what might be instead of getting rid of what we know is. I guess we did that last night but I'm just not so comfortable pressing our luck that way again tonight because we're so focussed on the whole Telle got resurrected by the book she was suppsedly holding herself and that doesn't sit well with me at all.

If Telle started off as the Bearer of the Necro, and the wolves took a shot in the dark and managed to find her that quickly, it's possible that she was converted. Either way, if Mrs S can be trusted, then Telle and EF were the last people "seen" with the book...EF is dead, which leaves Telle. That is why I think Telle should be lynched tonight. If we have a chance to "get" the book, we need to jump on that. If the book is an actual physical object then I would think that it can be passed from one person to another. I also think that it can only be passed during the night phase. But again, I have nothing to base this off of other than gut instinct.