Werewolf LXXV - Rise of the Great Old Ones -Students Win!!!!

[Schmidty]

It is a late night in December on the campus of Miskatonic University, in the gloomy town of Arkham, Massachusetts. Snow is falling heavily, completely blanketing the grounds. The campus is empty, save a few students and faculty members who haven't yet left for Winter Break.

At the center of the campus, stands the historic, three story Orne Library. The library is renowned for it's extensive collection of over 400,000 books, but even more interesting is the mysterious Vault in the bowels of the building. Over the years, there have been whispers of what might be contained there. Rumors abound of forbidden books of ancient knowledge, dark grimoires of twisted rituals, and scrolls that if read, could drive a person insane. There is even the belief that the Vault may harbor the last existing copy of a tome so vile that it is said to have the power to bring back the dead to an “unlife” of servitude to the invoker. Worse yet, the tome may hold an even greater power – the power to rouse beings that a sane person could never fathom, nor would ever want to. That tome is called the Necronomicon, and those beings are the Great Deep Ones, Cthulhu and his brethren, sleeping beneath the sea in the long lost city of R'lyeh. There are those that are so deranged, that if the tome fell into their hands, the world would become a nightmare from which it could never awake.

In the library, there are a handful of diligent students going about their studies in the warm comfort of it's walls. Suddenly, a blinding flash of white light fills the room, blinding everyone. A low hum begins to resonate from seemingly everywhere, and the ground rumbles from it's deep bass. An unearthly voice cries out “Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn”!! As soon as the final strange word is uttered, the light disappears, and the low hum ceases. Everyone is startled, but seem to be unhurt. After the shock wears off, the students instinctively run to the doors and windows in an attempt to flee the building, but all exits are sealed so tight, that nothing can move them, and the window panes are like solid stone.

You are one of those students, and you are trapped and at the mercy of whatever or whoever trapped you. You must get out, or somehow you know that you will perish.

1. claphamsa - Lunched Day 2 (Mathematics Major)
2. hoops - Murdered Night 3 (Psychic)
3. The Jackal - Murdered Night 1 (Pre-Med Student)
4. PurdueBrad
5. Telle - Killed by henry296 Day 4 (Former Bearer of the Necronomicon/ Order of R'lyeh Convert)
6. mccollins - Lynched Day 1 (Student of English Literature)
7. path
8. KWhit - Murdered Night 4 (Manipulator)
9. JetsIn06
10. Chief Rum
11. RendeR
12. Eaglefan - Lynched Day 3 (Order of R'lyeh)
13. Axxon
14. LoneStarGirl
15. Racer
16. henry296 Sacrificed himself Day 4 (Rageaholic)
17. AlanT - Lyched Day 4 (Order of R'lyeh)
18. Pass
19. oliegirl
20. Mrs. Schmidty

[Schmidty]

RULES

1. Lynches will take place at 9 p.m. EST, so votes past 8:59 p.m. EST will not be accepted. The Night cycle will last until 9 a.m. EST, so no night actions will be accepted after 8:59 a.m. EST.

2. No editing of posts.

3. No PMing unless it is part of your role.

4. No sneaky posting of keywords or phrases from the role PM you receive from me at the beginning of the game, to discreetly reveal your role.

5. No checking of people's profiles to see what they are currently doing. Crap like that defeats the purpose and spirit of the game.

6. All lynch votes should be bolded as follows:

VOTE BOB ROSS

7. If you wish to change your vote, it should look like this:

UNVOTE BARBARA BILLINGSLEY

8. If there is a tie at the deadline, there will be no lynch that day.


VICTORY CONDITIONS

The Miskatonic University Students win if all of the The Order of R'lyeh are eliminated from the game.

The Order of R'lyeh (Werewolves) win if there are equal (or more) amounts of the Order and Students

There are other role-specific victory conditions as well.

ROLES

There will be the following roles (certain roles will be a variation of the traditional roles, and there may or may not be more than one of each, and I will not be revealing the specifics of each role publicly):

Miskatonic University Students

Student (Villager)
Psychic (Seer)
Martial Artist (Bodyguard)
Snoop (Hunter)
Rageaholic
Manipulator
Pre-med student
The Bearer of the Necronomicon

Other Roles

The Arcane Collector
The Private Eye

The Order of R'lyeh (Wolves)

[claphamsa]

im in!

[henry296]

When is the first deadline?

[hoopsguy]

I'll plan on playing, although I may need an alternate depending on the firewall policy of my new employer. My company was acquired and I'll be working out of the new office from time to time.

Even if I'm able to get around the firewall blocks, I'm not sure I'm looking to make a bad first impression with the new guys. So if they do monitor somewhat aggressively I'll probably look for an alternate.

[Lathum]

I'll be in vegas starting sunday so I can't play :(

[The Jackal]

I'm in.

[st.cronin]

I'll be in vegas starting sunday so I can't play :D

Fixed and +1


By the way, Schmidty, how did the surgery go?

[PurdueBrad]

I'm in with one caveat. I'm out of town Friday-Sunday, if it isn't a huge problem, I would love to play. Let me know.

[Telle]

I'm in. Time to get back into playing werewolf :)

[mccollins]

In!

[path12]

INN

[claphamsa]

ur a hotel?

[KWhit]

I'll play.

[path12]

ur a hotel?

I contain multitudes.

[RendeR]

I contain multitudes.


Path, dude, stop listening to the voices, they're not real, they're just in your head.....:devil:

[Schmidty]

Fixed and +1


By the way, Schmidty, how did the surgery go?

The surgery went just fine; however, the recovery has sucked. They haven't mentioned the term "dry socket" as has been talked about on the board here, but my bottom left wisdom tooth was apparently very difficult to remove. It left a bone chip and an exposed nerve. The nerve affects all of my bottom teeth, and my left jaw up into my left temple. It has been very, very painful. I'm just now starting to be able to chew normally on the right side without making the left side feel like it's being stabbed with a rusty dagger. I was on Percocet for the first week (up until last thursday), and they offered more, but I didn't want to get all Rush Limbaughed, so I said no, and have just been on aspirin.

Thanks for asking.

By the way, I'm assuming the +1 means you aren't going to play either?

[Schmidty]

When is the first deadline?

If I can get enough players (at least 14 or more), the first deadline would be at 8 p.m. EST on Wednesday.

[JetsIn06]

Hmmm. This is my first game and I only know the very basics. If that's okay, then I'll muster up the courage and say...I'm in!

[Schmidty]

Hmmm. This is my first game and I only know the very basics. If that's okay, then I'll muster up the courage and say...I'm in!

Don't worry. You'll get the hang of it very quickly. :)

[path12]

Path, dude, stop listening to the voices, they're not real, they're just in your head.....:devil:

But they seem so friendly.....

[Lathum]

Hmmm. This is my first game and I only know the very basics. If that's okay, then I'll muster up the courage and say...I'm in!

welcome, bummed I am going to miss your first game, I always enjoy your discussions in OT

[Schmidty]

welcome, bummed I am going to miss your first game, I always enjoy your discussions in OT

Well, if I don't get at least 14-15 people signed up by Tuesday night, you might be able to get in, because I'm not starting it until I have that amount. If I can't start by Wednesday, I might have to wait until Monday. :)

[Alan T]

Schmidty, I'll play to help you fill up your game. I'm pretty much away most every weekend for the summer though, so I'll miss out on any weekend play there is.

[Schmidty]

Schmidty, I'll play to help you fill up your game. I'm pretty much away most every weekend for the summer though, so I'll miss out on any weekend play there is.

If I people don't protest too much, I won't have have any weekend play. At the most, I would have a day end on Sunday nights, but that would only be if people really, really wanted it.

[henry296]

I'm out of town Tuesday and Wednesday, so if we start on Thursday, I'm in, if not I'll wait.

[hoopsguy]

You can list me as "in" - if I need to drop I'll work on scaring up a replacement player for me.

[EagleFan]

Sign me up

[Chief Rum]

I'm in if Schmidty says flat chicks are hawt.

[Schmidty]

I'm in if Schmidty says flat chicks are hawt.

Flat chicks are hawt. If they are on fire.

[Racer]

When does this thing start? I'd be interested in playing, but I'm not sure I want to possibly be playing two games at once.

[RendeR]

Sign me up Schmidty.

[Schmidty]

When does this thing start? I'd be interested in playing, but I'm not sure I want to possibly be playing two games at once.

If I get 14 by tomorrow, it'll start then. If need be, I can wait until the Simple Game to finish. I'd really like to have a good turnout for this game.

[The Jackal]

Don't forget about EagleFan

[oliegirl]

I'm in

[Alan T]

If I people don't protest too much, I won't have have any weekend play. At the most, I would have a day end on Sunday nights, but that would only be if people really, really wanted it.

I'm assuming you're waiting for me to reply.. sure I'll play you can sign me up. With the way things have been going lately if you start the game tommorrow I'll be dead before Thursday anyways :)

[hoopsguy]

Alan, if I end up being a wolf then I promise not to kill you on Night 1. And if my teammates do not demand it over my objections.

I'm sure you feel much better.

[Lathum]

Flat chicks are hawt. If they are on fire.

thanks for the sig!

[Axxon]

If I get 14 by tomorrow, it'll start then. If need be, I can wait until the Simple Game to finish. I'd really like to have a good turnout for this game.

If you can wait, I'd like to join too. I'm having a lot of fun with the game but I don't think I'd like to play too at once yet.

[Schmidty]

thanks for the sig!

I hate you.

[Schmidty]

If you can wait, I'd like to join too. I'm having a lot of fun with the game but I don't think I'd like to play too at once yet.

Well, the latest I want to wait to start would be Thursday. But I will wait until then.

So I guess that's official: The game will start Thursday morning at about 9 A.M. EST.

[Axxon]

Well, the latest I want to wait to start would be Thursday. But I will wait until then.

So I guess that's official: The game will start Thursday morning at about 9 A.M. EST.

Then I'll play if there's still room.

[LoneStarGirl]

Suuuuure i will play! I miss path, hoops and Chief!

[claphamsa]

and me :)

[Racer]

I'll play then.

[Axxon]

Is there going to be a Nyarlahotep? He's a natural for a werewolf game.

[Lathum]

I hate you.

:devil:

[henry296]

Since we are starting thursday morning, I can play

[The Jackal]

and me :)

no one misses you

[Schmidty]

I will be taking sign-ups until 10 a.m. Wednesday, but will be cutting it off at 18 players.

Roles will go out sometime Wednesday afternoon.

[Alan T]

I still would like to play unless you don't want me to :)

[Schmidty]

I still would like to play unless you don't want me to :)

Oops!!

You're in!!

[JetsIn06]

Woohoo! I'm pretty nervous, but excited.

[Passacaglia]

I'll take the last spot, unless someone else wants it.

[Schmidty]

You're in.

[Schmidty]

I just posted the rules. I'll send out the roles, and post the storyish, background/setting stuff later this afternoon or evening. Whenever I'm done doing that, Day 1 can unofficially start, but the first lynch won't be until Thursday at 9 p.m. EST.

Ok, I'm going to bed now.

[path12]

I'm ready after my small break. Glad to see a game with a real night phase.

[Schmidty]

One more thing - if or two more people want to join before I wake up later, feel free. I'll work you in.

[Schmidty]

I don't know if you guys mind, but I actually had my wife just ask me before bed if she could play. I was amazed, but have misgiving, since FOFC is my guy place. But I'll bite the bullet and let her in, if you guys don't mind.

I guess because that would be 19, I will accept one more player.

Let me know if you don't mind me having my wife play. It's no biggie.

[hoopsguy]

I want the "Rageaholic" role.

[Alan T]

I don't know if you guys mind, but I actually had my wife just ask me before bed if she could play. I was amazed, but have misgiving, since FOFC is my guy place. But I'll bite the bullet and let her in, if you guys don't mind.

I guess because that would be 19, I will accept one more player.

Let me know if you don't mind me having my wife play. It's no biggie.

No worries here, the more the merrier :)

I want the "Rageaholic" role.


I saw that role and asked myself... I didn't know GMs get roles in games too??

[The Jackal]

as long as you forbid pillow talk i think we're good

[The Jackal]

ps mexican fire bombs are one of the worst ideas ive ever had

[path12]

I don't know if you guys mind, but I actually had my wife just ask me before bed if she could play. I was amazed, but have misgiving, since FOFC is my guy place. But I'll bite the bullet and let her in, if you guys don't mind.

I guess because that would be 19, I will accept one more player.

Let me know if you don't mind me having my wife play. It's no biggie.

Is she hawt?

(C'mon, someone had to ask)

[hoopsguy]

Is she flat?

(C'mon, someone had to ask)

[RendeR]

No worries here, the more the merrier :)




I saw that role and asked myself... I didn't know GMs get roles in games too??



Ahem...Alan? That would be MY role ;)

[Passacaglia]

If you want an even number, I don't mind bowing out. Especially if your wife is also a Sparty.

[mccollins]

Ahem...Alan? That would be MY role ;)

Honestly, that's what I was thinking RendeR :)

[oliegirl]

You must have missed my "I'm in" on post 35, either that or you don't want me to play your game :(

[EagleFan]

Can I vote PurdueBrad yet? Wait, that got me suspected last game...

;)

[PurdueBrad]

Can I vote PurdueBrad yet? Wait, that got me suspected last game...

;)

Between you and Claphamsa, I think that there are always two votes against me. In fact, everytime I argue with my wife, I expect her to say I'm out-voted 3-1 thanks to you two!:rant:

[Schmidty]

You must have missed my "I'm in" on post 35, either that or you don't want me to play your game :(

Sorry. you're in.

Apparently, my wife hasn't signed up yet. I will ask her about it later. If she's changed her mind, I'll just keep it at 19. Regardless, I'm going to have to wait until she gets home to send out roles.

[EagleFan]

Between you and Claphamsa, I think that there are always two votes against me. In fact, everytime I argue with my wife, I expect her to say I'm out-voted 3-1 thanks to you two!:rant:

Since clap didn't let me vote for him last game I may have to switch up my original play. :)

[Alan T]

Between you and Claphamsa, I think that there are always two votes against me. In fact, everytime I argue with my wife, I expect her to say I'm out-voted 3-1 thanks to you two!:rant:

I've noticed that I've voted you on day 1 my last two games.. after my last game, I'm thinking I might keep it up! :)

[PurdueBrad]

I've noticed that I've voted you on day 1 my last two games.. after my last game, I'm thinking I might keep it up! :)

Great, make that 4-1 now! :banghead:

[mccollins]

Great, make that 4-1 now! :banghead:

I got yer back bro. At least for one more game or until you vote for me again! ;)

[Schmidty]

Guys, I'm having an issue at home (house maintenance), so I will won't be sending out roles and things until I get to work. I work 11 p.m. until 7 a.m. PST, so don't wait up. :)

[claphamsa]

7 am pst! Il be up already then :(

[oliegirl]

Sorry. you're in.

Apparently, my wife hasn't signed up yet. I will ask her about it later. If she's changed her mind, I'll just keep it at 19. Regardless, I'm going to have to wait until she gets home to send out roles.

Thanks :) I would have understood if you couldn't get me in the game, but you would have owed me big time in the next game we played together ;)

[PurdueBrad]

I got yer back bro. At least for one more game or until you vote for me again! ;)

Thanks mccollins. That has been one of my favorite dynamics since it was awesome to get to know another player. I got to know BK through the cruise game and then you through the chess one, very cool.

[claphamsa]

vote pb

jsut cuz i might be busy tommorow morning ;)

[Schmidty]

I'm sending out roles now, but it might take a little while. Hopefully, I can get them all out by the time I get to work.

By the way, my wife was having trouble registering, but I just realized that I bookmarked the old FOFC on her computer, so that's why it wasn't working. I'll put her down to play, but I don't know what her user name will be yet.

[Schmidty]

(I posted this in the first post of this thread, but I'll also post it here)

It is a late night in December on the campus of Miskatonic University, in the gloomy town of Arkham, Massachusetts. Snow is falling heavily, completely blanketing the grounds. The campus is empty, save a few students and faculty members who haven't yet left for Winter Break.

At the center of the campus stands the historic, three story Orne Library. The library is renowned for it's extensive collection of over 400,000 books, but even more interesting is the mysterious Vault in the bowels of the building. Over the years, there have been whispers of what might be contained there. Rumors abound of forbidden books of ancient knowledge, dark grimoires of twisted rituals, and scrolls that if read, could drive a person insane. There is even the belief that the Vault may harbor the last existing copy of a tome so vile that it is said to have the power to bring back the dead to an “unlife” of servitude to the invoker. Worse yet, the tome may hold an even greater power – the power to rouse beings that a sane person could never fathom, nor would ever want to. That tome is called the Necronomicon, and those beings are the Great Deep Ones, Cthulhu and his brethren, sleeping beneath the sea in the long lost city of R'lyeh. There are those that are so deranged, that if the tome fell into their hands, the world would become a nightmare from which it could never awake.

In the library, there are a handful of diligent students going about their studies in the warm comfort of it's walls. Suddenly, a blinding flash of white light fills the room, blinding everyone. A low hum begins to resonate from seemingly everywhere, and the ground rumbles from it's deep bass. An unearthly voice cries out “Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn”!! As soon as the final strange word is uttered, the light disappears, and the low hum ceases. Everyone is startled, but seem to be unhurt. After the shock wears off, the students instinctively run to the doors and windows in an attempt to flee the building, but all exits are sealed so tight, that nothing can move them, and the window panes are like solid stone.

You are one of those students, and you are trapped and at the mercy of whatever or whoever trapped you. You must get out, or somehow you know that you will perish.


As soon as I have all roles sent out, I will start day 1. If I haven't said that all roles are out, and the day has officially started, please don't actually start "playing".

[Alan T]

With the PM system being down, anyone having a problem reading their PM as Schmidty sends them out should be able to see them in your email if you have your account set up to send you an email on PM notification. Trying to access it here for now gives a database error until they get that fixed.

[Passacaglia]

With the PM system being down, anyone having a problem reading their PM as Schmidty sends them out should be able to see them in your email if you have your account set up to send you an email on PM notification. Trying to access it here for now gives a database error until they get that fixed.

Figures that you would have got the email about your PM already, and I haven't. This suspense sucks!

[Axxon]

Figures that you would have got the email about your PM already, and I haven't. This suspense sucks!

Me either, FWIW.

[Alan T]

Figures that you would have got the email about your PM already, and I haven't. This suspense sucks!

Oh, I forgot you were having a problem with your emails being delayed for 3 hours lol :)

Not your week!

[Axxon]

Oh, I forgot you were having a problem with your emails being delayed for 3 hours lol :)

Not your week!

I don't think I have that problem. Maybe he hasn't gotten mine sent out yet?

[claphamsa]

yeah,ive gotten nothing :(

[Telle]

I really hate waiting. This is my first werewolf game in ages and I'm eager to get going!

[Axxon]

FWIW, I had the wrong box check marked so I had PM notification actually turned off. I did PM myself a test to see about the email thing and when I went to my CP I could read my PM even though I got the database error when I sent it. Odd.

Neat, but odd. Tried it twice and it worked both times.

[Alan T]

Maybe Schmidty hasn't even started sending them out yet then! I saw St.cronin mention he was having problems reading a PM in the other forum so assumed they were going out and was trying to be helpful (Didn't realize he wasn't in this game!)

I haven't gotten my PM yet either, but I have gotten other non-WW related PMs sent this morning for some Sim leagues I am in. I would assume if no one has gotten one yet, then maybe he just hasn't started sending them!

[Telle]

I've gotten mine, so that kills that theory :)

[oliegirl]

I haven't gotten mine yet either :(

[Racer]

Can I vote for Axxon yet, for kicking my ass in the other game? :D

[Axxon]

Aww.

Racer, if you knew how many times I cursed you during that game. You sir, are a formidable foe.

[Alan T]

I've gotten mine, so that kills that theory :)

So much for that theory!

[mccollins]

No PM here!

[path12]

Nothin' yet. Back later.

[Telle]

Hrrrmmm.. maybe Schmidty just likes me best? :) Or else the PM problem started right after he sent mine..

[henry296]

I got my role, just a student

[The Jackal]

Received mine as well, this game sounds like fun.. though I think Bruce Campbell needs to make a cameo

[KWhit]

Student checking in.

[claphamsa]

damit! maybe schmitty wants to take the joy from you, of lynching me day 1.

[Racer]

Student checking in.

I don't think Schmidty was anyone to start yet.

[Racer]

I don't think Schmidty was anyone to start yet.

I don't think Schmidty wants anyone to start yet.

Corrected the error.

[KWhit]

I don't think Schmidty wants anyone to start yet.

Corrected the error.

Oh. Why's that? And I didn't see anything to that effect. Did I miss a post or something?

[KWhit]

Looks like I did miss a post:

As soon as I have all roles sent out, I will start day 1. If I haven't said that all roles are out, and the day has officially started, please don't actually start "playing".

[hoopsguy]

OK, got role info - hope that others have as well. I'll wait for Schmidty to say that the game is underway before posting anything else on that subject.

I'm wondering if this is going to impact our initial deadline? Not that Day 1 is really sophisticated analysis day or anything, but if Schmidty doesn't give us the OK until mid-afternoon I'm concerned that some folks might not have an opportunity to check in, post, vote, etc.

[path12]

Still nothin.

[Schmidty]

My laptop died right as I was leaving work, and has been "Attempting Repairs" ever since then. Fricking Vista. I'm on my wife's computer now, and obviously don't have any of my info from the game on it.

I'll let you guys know when to start. Hopefully it won't be too long. Sorry for the delay.

[hoopsguy]

Can I vote for Axxon yet, for kicking my ass in the other game? :D

Aww.

Racer, if you knew how many times I cursed you during that game. You sir, are a formidable foe.

I've enjoyed reading along over the last couple of days in the other game. Looking forward to playing with both of you guys this time around.

[claphamsa]

u liked my posts the best right :D

[hoopsguy]

Clap, I don't want to comment too much with the game still going as it could potentially impact the votes.

[Schmidty]

Catching up on PMs. Got my laptop working.

We'll be starting shortly.

[claphamsa]

Clap, I don't want to comment too much with the game still going as it could potentially impact the votes.


not unless you somethign i dont :) im looking forward to this one! I hope i get a good roll!

[mccollins]

Got my PM - another student checking in. After watching the current small game, I realized you've got to crack some eggs. Pulls number out of hat...

Vote KWhit

Seven hours til deadline.

[mccollins]

Doh - Schmidty hasn't made the magic post to begin. Nevermind.

[Schmidty]

GENTLEMEN AND WOMEN, START YOUR ENGINES!!!

GAME ON!!!

[hoopsguy]

Is there an emoticon for twiddling thumbs? Am I going to have to break out LOLcats?

[path12]

All right! Student here.

[hoopsguy]

Good guy in the house, who enjoys critical thinking in enclosed spaces (we're trapped in a building, right?), vanquishing the forces of evil, and creating expansive but legitimate circles of trust. Seeking like-minded individuals.

[Alan T]

So Schmidty what is the deadline going to be? Friday or still deadline tonight?

[Racer]

Student checking in

[mccollins]

Alrighty - re-rolling at random.org

Vote Oliegirl

(Sorry!)

[Alan T]

Oh, and what ended up being your wife's login name? Not that I'm going to vote her first thing on day 1. Just curious :)

[Schmidty]

In case anyone wants to see where you're all trapped, here ya go:

http://www.miskatonic-university.org/library.htm

[Racer]

I will go ahead and begin the voting.

Vote Axxon

Reasons stated earlier. He's a darn good wolf and schooled my butt in the game that is officially ending today.

[Racer]

Well I guess I wasn't the first one to vote.

[Schmidty]

So Schmidty what is the deadline going to be? Friday or still deadline tonight?

I figure we'll just have the deadline tonight, but extend it an hour, unless everyone gets their votes in first, and wants to end the day.

[Schmidty]

Oh, and what ended up being your wife's login name? Not that I'm going to vote her first thing on day 1. Just curious :)

She's at work, but told me on the phone to sign her up as "Mrs Schmidty". I said that was silly, but she insisted. I haven't had a chance to do it yet because of the computer stuff and then catching up on PMs. :)

She'll be home around 7 p.m. EST.

[Racer]

If I can get enough players (at least 14 or more), the first deadline would be at 8 p.m. EST on Wednesday.

I figure we'll just have the deadline tonight, but extend it an hour, unless everyone gets their votes in first, and wants to end the day.

So is the deadline at 9 pm EST tonight then?

[mccollins]

I figure we'll just have the deadline tonight, but extend it an hour, unless everyone gets their votes in first, and wants to end the day.

Just to get the info out there, we have people over on Thursday nights and I will most likely not be online for deadline whether it is a 9pm or 10pm.

[Alan T]

I'm pretty sure Hoops knows why I am making this vote :) I'll move it later as I don't really want to see Hoops die on day 1 without any evidence. So this is just a statement vote until I see if I can get any feel for how today plays out.

Vote Hoopsguy

[JetsIn06]

Student checkin' in.

[EagleFan]

Checking in but changing up my random day one vote. hoops mentioned breaking out the LOLCats and that's enough for me for a day one vote... ;)

vote hoops

[Schmidty]

So is the deadline at 9 pm EST tonight then?

I'll change the official time (normally) to 9 p.m. EST. I'm PST, so it gives me more time at night for the game.

[mccollins]

So is the deadline at 9 pm EST tonight then?

That's what the rules say:
RULES

1. Lynches will take place at 9 p.m. EST, so votes past 8:59 p.m. EST will not be accepted. The Night cycle will last until 9 a.m. EST, so no night actions will be accepted after 8:59 a.m. EST.


But that doesn't account for any delay.

Speaking of the rules, were there supposed to be types of wolves listed? It is currently blank as to types.

[Schmidty]

That's what the rules say:


But that doesn't account for any delay.

Speaking of the rules, were there supposed to be types of wolves listed? It is currently blank as to types.

Nope. It was left blank on purpose.

[hoopsguy]

Awesome, third day in a row I'm the early clubhouse leader on Day 1 votes. However, I'm not a wolf this time and I won't be able to rely on anyone besides me to help move votes.

So, please remove the votes and disperse them among other candidates who have a chance to actually be wolves. K, thx.

[claphamsa]

man, another vanilla roll :(

vote pb...

jsut bcasue

[JetsIn06]

So day one is pretty random, I guess.

Vote mccollins

[path12]

Good guy in the house, who enjoys critical thinking in enclosed spaces (we're trapped in a building, right?), vanquishing the forces of evil, and creating expansive but legitimate circles of trust. Seeking like-minded individuals.

Does this mean you plan to exclusively think inside the box?

[Schmidty]

Off to get my daughter from school.

[path12]

Just to welcome her back:

VOTE LONESTARGIRL

[RendeR]

I'm a student, I was given a specific field of study which I will keep to myself until I know if it matters or not.

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

He deserves at least one D1 vote ;)

[claphamsa]

thanks rendeR. I wonder if you majors will affect anythign... or if its jsut for sh$ts and Giggles

[henry296]

VOTE RendeR

Because he's a bengals fan.

[Alan T]

I'm a student, I was given a specific field of study which I will keep to myself until I know if it matters or not.

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

He deserves at least one D1 vote ;)


I'm wondering if it is my lack of knowing much about this theme that the game is based on, but mine doesn't seem to have anything to do with the story write up above. It doesn't give me any abilities or anything as far as I know. Not sure if I want to reveal my field yet either, so will just say if I really was studying this, my Real life wife would get "creeped" out from it :)

[The Jackal]

vote purdue brad

Would rather get some discussion amongst people than spread 1 vote out to every person.

[hoopsguy]

Does this mean you plan to exclusively think inside the box?

Definitely thinking inside the rhombus this game.

[The Jackal]

I have a specific field as well, and let's just say it's something I'd never do in real life. That being said, no idea if it will have any impact on the game.

[The Jackal]

I don't think I've heard the word rhombus since middle school. Well done.

[RendeR]

VOTE RendeR

Because he's a bengals fan.


So being a die hard long suffering miserable fan of a team derided and insulted at every turn now earns me Day 1 votes?


WTF else can go wrong =):banghead:

[Alan T]

Well, going to move my vote off before too much harm comes from it. Like I said my vote was just a statement based on a past game. I'd rather keep Hoops around a bit if I don't have any feelings that he is bad. I'll move my vote to the person who was very happy to quickly jump and vote for Hoops right after me causing a quick second vote for him (which as we know can often get a consolidation movement going between two candidates on day 1)

Unvote Hoopsguy
Vote Eaglefan

[claphamsa]

GO BENGALS!!!

[hoopsguy]

Hmm, my major isn't something that I would be afraid to be associated with in real life.

[hoopsguy]

Not knowing anything about the subject matter for this game, I'm wondering if some of the more informed might have ideas on why we would have majors? What kind of in-game impact do you think would be associated with this? Strictly "flavor"?

[Racer]

In case anyone wants to see where you're all trapped, here ya go:

http://www.miskatonic-university.org/library.htm

Schmidty, did you create that website or did someone else? I noticed that there is a whole bunch of other stuff on it too. Pretty cool if you did.

[Racer]

Not knowing anything about the subject matter for this game, I'm wondering if some of the more informed might have ideas on why we would have majors? What kind of in-game impact do you think would be associated with this? Strictly "flavor"?

I don't even remember what my major was. I'll have to relook at my PM from Schmidty to see.

[Telle]

Wow, votes all over the damn place.. as of post 160:

oliegirl - 1 - mccollins (125)
Axxon - 1 - Racer (128)
hoopsguy - 1 - EagleFan (136)
PurdueBrad - 2 - claphasma (141), The Jackel (150)
mccolins - 1 - JetsIn06 (142)
LoneStarGirl - 1 - path12 (145)
claphasma - 1 - RendeR (146)
RendeR - 1 - henry296 (148)
EagleFan - 1 - Alan T (155)

[mccollins]

Who has yet to check in?

[Telle]

Who has yet to check in?

PurdueBrad, KWhit, Chief Rum, Axxon, LoneStarGirl, Pass, oliegirl, Mrs Schidty

[Telle]

err.. +m

[Telle]

And for another statistic.. hoops and I are the only ones to check in and not yet vote.

[Alan T]

PurdueBrad, KWhit, Chief Rum, Axxon, LoneStarGirl, Pass, oliegirl, Mrs Schidty

Kwhit technically did a pre-check in saying he got his role but before Schmidty officially started the game.

Pass, oliegirl and axxon were all around this morning but all said they had not yet received their roles.

Lonestargirl doesn't usually show up until evening after work, PurdueBrad I don't remember being in thread yet today but he was definitely around for the pre-game chatter.

Chief Rum might not check in at all before the deadline. I never remember which nights he doesn't get here till after 10pm EST, but with today being a short day 1, he'll either get on tonight just before deadline or later after deadline.

[Telle]

Yeah I was counting specifically since the game officially started. That's how I decided to keep my notes anyways.

[hoopsguy]

Telle, are you in a hurry to get your vote in? I'm not - I'm confident I'll be around between now and the deadline and I would rather have something to base my call off rather than being near-100% random.

That isn't to suggest anything one way or the other about those who haven't voted yet. It just isn't my style to make my check-in post my voting post, with a notable exception here or there (I'm talking to you, Lathum!)

[Telle]

I usually like to wait to vote until there's actually a little talk rather than just going totally random. However I leave work around 4 today and have no idea if I'll be able to get back on again before deadline, so I'll probably have to make a decision soon.

[path12]

Apparently the ladies love my major. Not to mention my little soldier (nudge, nudge).

Which is odd, because it is in the same realm as my real life major. Which the ladies were distinctly apathetic about. :(

[Telle]

vote purdue brad

Would rather get some discussion amongst people than spread 1 vote out to every person.

So then why pick someone who hadn't even checked in yet rather than one of the many with votes who was here and could immediately defend themselves?

[Racer]

Wow, votes all over the damn place.. as of post 160:

oliegirl - 1 - mccollins (125)
Axxon - 1 - Racer (128)
hoopsguy - 1 - EagleFan (136)
PurdueBrad - 2 - claphasma (141), The Jackel (150)
mccolins - 1 - JetsIn06 (142)
LoneStarGirl - 1 - path12 (145)
claphasma - 1 - RendeR (146)
RendeR - 1 - henry296 (148)
EagleFan - 1 - Alan T (155)

I wonder what the record is for the total number of players with at least one vote against them at some point during day one. I've never seen anything like this in the other games I've played.

[henry296]

How many wolves do we think we have given 20 players. I'm thinking five. I'm curious how the Arcane Collector and Private Eye factor into the victory conditions. I don't think they count as students and might have their own victory condition.

[Telle]

If the two do have independent victory conditions then I'd think only 4 wolves maybe? Or maybe 4 plus chance at a convertion.

[Racer]

If the two do have independent victory conditions then I'd think only 4 wolves maybe? Or maybe 4 plus chance at a convertion.

We had four wolves in the Clash of the Titans game that I played in and two players who won if the wolves won. I think that had around 20 players. It also had a different GM though.

[Telle]

Well I gotta get out of here.. sooo, this is pretty random and just a gut feeling:

VOTE MCCOLLINS

[hoopsguy]

I'm guessing 4 with souped-up wolf powers, 5 if they are more standard.

Hard to judge based off Schmidty's last game, which was a conversion-fest.

[path12]

If the two do have independent victory conditions then I'd think only 4 wolves maybe? Or maybe 4 plus chance at a convertion.

I think four and a conversion seems most likely.

[EagleFan]

Well, going to move my vote off before too much harm comes from it. Like I said my vote was just a statement based on a past game. I'd rather keep Hoops around a bit if I don't have any feelings that he is bad. I'll move my vote to the person who was very happy to quickly jump and vote for Hoops right after me causing a quick second vote for him (which as we know can often get a consolidation movement going between two candidates on day 1)

Unvote Hoopsguy
Vote Eaglefan


No quick turnaround vote there. Just bad timing of having the screen up for a bit before voting. Saw it was a second vote for him after I voted but figured I would keep it for a while, at least to see what came of it (discussion wise). I was going to vote PB as I have done in most all of my games on day one but figured I would go back to my first ever day one vote with hoops and give PB a break (it looked like he was getting dumped on a bit with people wanting to vote him day one in an earlier discussion).

The PB day one vote no longer makes sense to me as he seems to be a much better villager than wolf (from what I have seen at least).

[Schmidty]

Schmidty, did you create that website or did someone else? I noticed that there is a whole bunch of other stuff on it too. Pretty cool if you did.

No, I wish I had though. It's a very cool site. The Cthulhu mythos has been around since the 1920s.

Here's more info about the universe this game is set in:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_mythos


I highly recommend reading some books or short stories by H..P Lovecraft (and other writers that use the mythos). They're trippy, freaky, and awesome.

[PurdueBrad]

Checking in and definitely not smart enough or motivated enough to do my field of study.

vote Claphamsa

[claphamsa]

bad job PB bad job!

[mccollins]

Just a few minutes before I have to leave and I don't think I'll be able to be on before deadline. I don't like that I have 2 votes (or that my buds PB and Clap have 2 votes on them. Sorry, not voting for them on day 1.) and so I'm looking for one of the other 1 vote folks to switch to...

[mccollins]

I'm just going to leave it as it is - not really any better options so I'll let the chips fall.

[LoneStarGirl]

Wow, there are a lot of females in this game. That is awesome. I really dont know who to vote for, but I will be around all night to change my vote if I need to.

Vote Path because he picks on me

[RendeR]

Just a few minutes before I have to leave and I don't think I'll be able to be on before deadline. I don't like that I have 2 votes (or that my buds PB and Clap have 2 votes on them. Sorry, not voting for them on day 1.) and so I'm looking for one of the other 1 vote folks to switch to...


I'm curious as to why you wouldn't vote for them on day 1? its not like personal freindships mean anything in WW, so why limit yourself from voting for 2 of the 3 high vote getters at this point? (you being the third obviously)

I find that rather suspicious, granted its probably just personal influence entering into an impersonal arena, but I'd like to hear more as to why you shouldn't go for one of them?

[oliegirl]

Student checking in...

VOTE MCCOLLINS

Reason: he voted for me :)

[Racer]

Wow, there are a lot of females in this game. That is awesome. I really dont know who to vote for, but I will be around all night to change my vote if I need to.

Vote Path because he picks on me

I believe at least half the players now have at least one vote on them.

[The Jackal]

So then why pick someone who hadn't even checked in yet rather than one of the many with votes who was here and could immediately defend themselves?

it's a fair question, at the time hoops had two (so i wanted someone else with two) and a lot of people hadn't checked in yet, only now has the list whittled, but i'm not moving my vote at the moment

[The Jackal]

so now mc, clap, and pb all have two?

[henry296]

Hopfully I can get back on before 9, but it will be close.

I was unfair to RendeR and we need to consolidate votes. Automatically excluding voting for people that could help save you is a bad omen.

UNVOTE RendeR
VOTE mccollins

[Alan T]

As of post 191, this is what I have for the vote count:

4) Mccollins - Jetsin06 (142), Telle (176), oliegirl (187), henry296 (191)
2) PurdueBrad - Claphamsa (141), The Jackal (150)
2) Claphamsa - Render (146), PurdueBrad (181)
1) Oliegirl - Mccollins (125)
1) Axxon - Racer (128)
1) Hoopsguy - Eaglefan (136)
1) Lonestargirl - path12 (145)
1) Eaglefan - Alan T (155)
1) Path12 - Lonestargirl (185)

[henry296]

With the deadline for tonight at 10, I'll be should back on before that.

[LoneStarGirl]

How many games has mccollins played? If he is as new as I think he is , I wouldn't vote for him... Clap on the other hand thinks he is a pro ;)

[oliegirl]

Mccollins has played a few games that I've been in...I'm 99.9% sure that in at least one game he was a wolf...I'm fine with voting for him.

[LoneStarGirl]

Oh okay... I just know I hated getting voted for my first couple of games of playing. It defeated the purpose!

[hoopsguy]

I'll throw my vote on another guy with a vote to consolidate this a little bit ...

Not voting for one of the three leaders initially because:
1.) Mccollins has been a tough villager in the games I've been a wolf. I'm hoping we're both villagers this time, so I'm not going to help bury the guy now.
2.) PurdueBrad, as has been stated by several others, is perceived as a better villager than wolf. Why run those guys out on Day 1?
3.) Clap seems to get a lot of Day 1 deaths, or at the very least attention.

These are all meta-game reasons, but I don't have much in the thread to support a vote on anyone in particular. The vote goes to the guy who quick-hit me with a 2nd vote earlier. I'll put him at 2, which I think is better than introducing a new candidate at this stage.

VOTE EAGLEFAN

[Passacaglia]

I don't see that as much of a consolidation. I think we were fine with 3, and bringing a fourth guy with two votes is actually expanding the list.

[path12]

Vote Path because he picks on me

:lol: I said welcome back.

[hoopsguy]

Pass, I think it represents a significant consolidation compared to the zero/one folks. I would have consolidated on one of the three candidates if I felt any particular good reason, either in-thread or meta-game, to vote for them.

[Passacaglia]

Pass, I think it represents a significant consolidation compared to the zero/one folks. I would have consolidated on one of the three candidates if I felt any particular good reason, either in-thread or meta-game, to vote for them.

Your vote itself doesn't really bug me -- I just don't think it's proper to call it a vote for consolidation just because it does slightly (I wouldn't say significant) less to avoid it.

[PurdueBrad]

A lot of people on the block that are not vets. I'm thinking this is happening for a couple reasons. First, the utr wolf has done well in some recent games. Second, the wolves typically target at least a veteran or two the first couple nights so we probably shouldn't off one ourselves. I don't really love any of the choices.

My second vote on Claph was two-fold. First, it was a retaliatory for putting one on me (again, I might add!). Second, I didn't want to spread out the candidates any further. In the lolcat game, wolf or not I played the day one the way I normally would and it damn near got me day one lynched by spreading it out on Cronin. I don't like being the deciding factor day one, wolf or not because there is no skill involved, dumb luck (be it good or bad).

The problem I'm seeing here is the opportunity for HUGE manipulation by the wolves if we even have one in our sights since we're so spread out. I would like to see a lot of these one votes converge on a couple prime candidates (and yeah, I'm tied for second at this point).

[path12]

Pass, I think it represents a significant consolidation compared to the zero/one folks. I would have consolidated on one of the three candidates if I felt any particular good reason, either in-thread or meta-game, to vote for them.

I had noticed the quick second vote also. Could be what he said about bad timing but I can get behind that for a day 1 better than the others. I felt the same way about Jackal's vote on PB by the way, but he's not really a candidate right now.

UNVOTE LONESTARGIRL
VOTE EAGLEFAN

[PurdueBrad]

Lets tie it up then

unvote Claphamsa

vote Eaglefan

[PurdueBrad]

I just argued for really tightening things up so let's see what happens from here on out. Plus, frankly, Claph has taken a good number of day one deaths and if my best argument for voting for him is that he voted for me, not the best. At least here, we can break some eggs.

[PurdueBrad]

<-----post-whore since they started counting btw.

[LoneStarGirl]

Okay, three hours to deadline. I am giong to play Sims2 for an hour or two :)

[LoneStarGirl]

Wait, what the hell... werewolf posts count?? Since when!

[PurdueBrad]

Wait, what the hell... werewolf posts count?? Since when!

Since just before the move and they still do! :)

[Alan T]

Updated vote count as of 209:

4) Mccollins - Jetsin06 (142), Telle (176), oliegirl (187), henry296 (191)
4) Eaglefan - Alan T (155), Hoopsguy (197), path12 (203), PurdueBrad (204)
2) PurdueBrad - Claphamsa (141), The Jackal (150)
1) Claphamsa - Render (146)
1) Oliegirl - Mccollins (125)
1) Axxon - Racer (128)
1) Hoopsguy - Eaglefan (136)
1) Path12 - Lonestargirl (185)

[claphamsa]

How many games has mccollins played? If he is as new as I think he is , I wouldn't vote for him... Clap on the other hand thinks he is a pro ;)
mcollins has player 4-5 games, and I never said i was a pro, just said i was experienced.

[Axxon]

Kwhit technically did a pre-check in saying he got his role but before Schmidty officially started the game.

Pass, oliegirl and axxon were all around this morning but all said they had not yet received their roles.

Lonestargirl doesn't usually show up until evening after work, PurdueBrad I don't remember being in thread yet today but he was definitely around for the pre-game chatter.

Chief Rum might not check in at all before the deadline. I never remember which nights he doesn't get here till after 10pm EST, but with today being a short day 1, he'll either get on tonight just before deadline or later after deadline.

Checking in now. Still catching up with the thread. Had to get some sleep, as racer so cleverly noticed I'd missed some last night, grr.

I'm an engineering student here at Misk U. Racer is either going to be an asset or one of our cleverest foes. Anyway, he voted for me so

VOTE RACER

for now but it may change after I've caught up with the thread.

[Axxon]

No, I wish I had though. It's a very cool site. The Cthulhu mythos has been around since the 1920s.

Here's more info about the universe this game is set in:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_mythos

I highly recommend reading some books or short stories by H..P Lovecraft (and other writers that use the mythos). They're trippy, freaky, and awesome.

I agree with that. Loves me some Lovecraft mythos. Used to GM some CoC games back in the day. Fun, fun times.

[RendeR]

UNVOTE CLAPHAMSA

VOTE PURDEUBRAD


Lets make this a 3 horse race and see what fur flies at the end.

[EagleFan]

Wow, where's the love PB? I changed my normal day one vote to not vote for you.

As I said before, and the time stamps will back me up, I voted hoops not knowing there was another vote about to show up for him. I do find it a little suspicious about the run on me. I really suck as a wolf but do well as a villager (I love trying to figure these things out) so I would look closely at those with votes on me. I wouldn't be too surprised to see at least one wolf there.

Anyhoo, I have to head out for a bit. I'll be back on later to see how this plays out.

[claphamsa]

anyone recomened a good book by lovecraft? need a new read :)

[PurdueBrad]

Wow, where's the love PB? I changed my normal day one vote to not vote for you.


Sorry Eagle, I wanted to push this a bit and see what will come of it. If it helps, if all things were equal, you wouldn't be my choice but the person I would put a vote on has zero right now.

RendeR trying to push up a third candidate (me or otherwise) is interesting as well, as it gives the wolves multiple options for manipulation.

[Axxon]

anyone recomened a good book by lovecraft? need a new read :)

You can read a bunch of his short stories online.

http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/

[RendeR]

Sorry Eagle, I wanted to push this a bit and see what will come of it. If it helps, if all things were equal, you wouldn't be my choice but the person I would put a vote on has zero right now.

RendeR trying to push up a third candidate (me or otherwise) is interesting as well, as it gives the wolves multiple options for manipulation.


Would you rather we only have two candidates? I tihnk its far easier for the wolves to push to villagers into the blocks on early days than it would be for them to push three.

I realy have nothing on you at all other than you has votes and mine was wasted on clap. Pick one of the other two and I'll move my vote there if you really think 2 is better than 3.

Personally I think three is better when it comes to crunch time, as it forces the wolves to move more often to maintain a solid voting block, but thats just my opinion.

[PurdueBrad]

Hmmm, I see your idea of making the wolves work harder for a solid voting block. I was thinking with two candidates you basically lock them in to making a choice giving us a record (albeit a long one to look at with people split among two). A third candidate isn't such a bad idea, beyond that though, it's a bit much. Your method does help minimize the number of voters we have to look at on each candidate and might force wolf movement. I still think (although am doubting it) I prefer two candidates but I see where you want to go with three.

[Axxon]

Oh, and it's not one of his most recommended but I've always liked "The Picture in the House".

[Passacaglia]

I agree with RendeR -- I think three is a good number, too.

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

[PurdueBrad]

4) Mccollins - Jetsin06 (142), Telle (176), oliegirl (187), henry296 (191)
4) Eaglefan - Alan T (155), Hoopsguy (197), path12 (203), PurdueBrad (204)
4) PurdueBrad - Claphamsa (141), The Jackal (150), RendeR (214), Passacaglia (222)
1) Oliegirl - Mccollins (125)
1) Axxon - Racer (128)
1) Hoopsguy - Eaglefan (136)
1) Path12 - Lonestargirl (185)
1) Racer- Axxon (212)

[PurdueBrad]

My assumption here is that I'll pick up Eaglefan on me and Mccollins will likely go Eaglefan, making it 5-5 between the two of us. From there...we'll see.

[Alan T]

I think a third candidate can be used for both good and bad. The point of having it close and not being a run away is to force the wolves to commit to try to save one of their own. You can do that regardless of a 2nd or a 3rd candidate.

A Third candidate can help especially as you have a greater chance that one of three is a wolf than one of two.. however it also can hurt as we saw in a recent game when the first two candidate choices were wolves and a third choice came out of the woodwork to try to save both of them.

I see a similar scenerio here as I saw in that one.. neither Eaglefan or Mccollins has their vote on each other, a third candidate is brought up with sudden momentum to bring an alternate choice to the mix.... In this case, I am not sure what a third choice is accomplishing unless both Mccollins and Eaglefan are bad.

I think in this case it is better to ignore PurdueBrad, and lynch one of the other two. If one of them does end up a wolf, I think it is a better than 50/50 chance that the other one is possibly a wolf as is Render.

[Alan T]

I spy Mrs.Schmidty. Welcome to the board! Watch out for Path12!

[Passacaglia]

Welcome, Mrs. Schmidty! Are you from West Michigan, also? Represent!

[Mrs. Schmidty]

I spy Mrs.Schmidty. Welcome to the board! Watch out for Path12!

Hi guys! I'm trying to get caught up on all the posts, but there's so many I'll run out of time before the deadline!

[Passacaglia]

Hi guys! I'm trying to get caught up on all the posts, but there's so many I'll run out of time before the deadline!

Just skip everything hoops and claphamsa say. That'll save you a lot of time, and you really won't miss anything.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Alright, before I get totally engrossed in the game I'll introduce myself a bit! No, I'm not from Michigan, originally I'm from California. I think that I'm officially a Washingtonian though since I've been here for pretty much the last 20 years.
I work full time in a photo lab and photography would be one of my biggest hobbies. I'm stubborn as hell as I'm sure some of you already know (ha!) but am also pretty upbeat (I sound like I"m filling out a personal add!).

Oh ya, and I'm "hawt", but not "flat!"

Now...back to reading and trying to figure out who to send packin'!

[LoneStarGirl]

Mrs. Schmidty sounds fun. Has everybody checked in and voted besides Mrs. Schmidty?

[Mrs. Schmidty]

PurdueBrad, KWhit, Chief Rum, Axxon, LoneStarGirl, Pass, oliegirl, Mrs Schidty

Nice! lol I actually called my daughter's school and said that I was "Lily Shits mom" I knew the day would come...

[PurdueBrad]

Mrs. Schmidty sounds fun. Has everybody checked in and voted besides Mrs. Schmidty?

Did I miss KWhit checking in and voting?

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Nice! lol I actually called my daughter's school and said that I was "Lily Shits mom" I knew the day would come...

Oops! Meant to point out how Telle spelled my name, but quoted the entire name list. I'm a simpleton thrown into the mix with the experts.

[LoneStarGirl]

hmmm or chief rum? I just counted and only 15 have voted... Add Kwhit, Mrs. Schmidty, Chief and then two others

[claphamsa]

Just skip everything hoops and claphamsa say. That'll save you a lot of time, and you really won't miss anything.



I cannont say i disagree with this...

[PurdueBrad]

I count 17, am I wrong?

[Alan T]

I count 17, am I wrong?

I have 17 also. This is what I have:


4) Mccollins - Jetsin06 (142), Telle (176), oliegirl (187), henry296 (191)
4) Eaglefan - Alan T (155), Hoopsguy (197), path12 (203), PurdueBrad (204)
4) PurdueBrad - Claphamsa (141), The Jackal (150), Render (214), Passacaglia (222)
1) Oliegirl - Mccollins (125)
1) Axxon - Racer (128)
1) Hoopsguy - Eaglefan (136)
1) Path12 - Lonestargirl (185)
1) Racer - Axxon (212)


No vote: Kwhit, Chief Rum, Mrs.Schmidty

[Racer]

I think a third candidate can be used for both good and bad. The point of having it close and not being a run away is to force the wolves to commit to try to save one of their own. You can do that regardless of a 2nd or a 3rd candidate.

A Third candidate can help especially as you have a greater chance that one of three is a wolf than one of two.. however it also can hurt as we saw in a recent game when the first two candidate choices were wolves and a third choice came out of the woodwork to try to save both of them.

I see a similar scenerio here as I saw in that one.. neither Eaglefan or Mccollins has their vote on each other, a third candidate is brought up with sudden momentum to bring an alternate choice to the mix.... In this case, I am not sure what a third choice is accomplishing unless both Mccollins and Eaglefan are bad.

I think in this case it is better to ignore PurdueBrad, and lynch one of the other two. If one of them does end up a wolf, I think it is a better than 50/50 chance that the other one is possibly a wolf as is Render.

I haven't done the math, but the probability of there being one wolf in a group of three is substantially higher then there being two wolves in a group of three.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

VOTE JETSIN06

Apparently random.org doesn't like you today...

[PurdueBrad]

Well guys and gals, I hate to do this with my head on the chopping block but I unfortunately (for my liver) am going to an all-you-can-drink event at one of the college bars in town. Since there is a good chance I may be lynched, look at these two people: Jackal and RendeR.

I have two others I'm very curious about as well but since their votes are not currently on me, I will keep their names to myself to avoid drawing out any more attention.

I'll try to check in one more time, in about 15 minutes, before we leave.

[Racer]

So based on your analysis, I think it would be better to go with a group of three then it would be to go with a group of two.

[claphamsa]

how could you have names on your list alreadt???????????????

[Alan T]

So based on your analysis, I think it would be better to go with a group of three then it would be to go with a group of two.


Only if we are talking about probability alone. That is only one piece of the picture though.. The other piece is what do you learn from the info?

Lets say PurdueBrad is lynched and ends up being a villager.. what do we learn? Ok.. well maybe Mccollins or EagleFan or both are wolves.. so we then lynch one of them.. or do we go after both and spend three days on what might be just three villagers.. if PurdueBrad is a wolf, what do we learn about the others? Well not much about mccollins or Eaglefan as of yet.. we feel a bit better about Render, but thats it..

If we go with the two approach, and lynch one and they are a wolf, what have we learned? It makes a bunch of people as possible next suspects.. if one of them is a villager, then it doesn't really clear Render, but it helps drop some of the suspicion he may have otherwise.. You have to consider other people with roles also, who will they target for their actions tonight based on what we find out.. etc...

Don't get me wrong, I've brought a third person into lynch situations myself but there were subtle differences that I mentioned earlier.. such as why hasn't mccollins or Eaglefan voted for self preservation earlier? Why was a third candidate brought into the picture suddenly out of the blue with two quick votes? It feels just like when purduebrad and Hoops were both wolves previously and hesitant to vote for each other.. they ended up getting out of that without a lynch.. It just feels alot like that scenerio happening again here.. Just too many other issues that just seem off so far about this vote.

I think as of right now I'm sticking with my vote here as this most recent action makes me feel good about where I am.

[hoopsguy]

Just skip everything hoops and claphamsa say. That'll save you a lot of time, and you really won't miss anything.

Here I was thinking I was on good behavior so far this game, keeping my post count down. Then I go look and I'm 2nd among players, 2 back of Alan.

Sure, Alan's posts have value but mine are worthless. (sniff) Tomorrow's vote is looking pretty clear-cut right about now. :rant:

[Axxon]

UNVOTE RACER
VOTE PURDUEBRAD

[path12]

I'm an engineering student here at Misk U. Racer is either going to be an asset or one of our cleverest foes.

Why do you say this?

[Mrs. Schmidty]

how could you have names on your list alreadt???????????????

To whom is this directed to?

[Axxon]

Why do you say this?

Because of our exchange earlier. Racer is a very good player and we just got through a game together. That means he's going to be a great help to us like he was to his side in that game or he's going to be a dangerous wolf.

[Racer]

To whom is this directed to?

+1. I was about to post the same thing.