WW LXXXIII Marvel Universe - Game Over! Rebel victory!

[hoopsguy]

There is a restlessness in the air this evening, knowing that the twin forces of the Rebellion and Galactus both are working towards your doom. Some of you take furtive actions to help stem the tide, but none are able to save Dr. Strange. The 4th Prelate is nowhere to be found, although the scientists are eventually able to cobble together a device that leads you to his liquified remains.

Dr. Strange was a villager.

JeanGrey moves up to the 4th Prelate spot and there is a vacancy for the 5th Prelate role.

[HumanTorch]

Moderators: So damage incurred on missions will not be shown in the end of day damage results?

I want to double bold not there.

If it is then maybe Colossus and the Human Torch can inform us whether they suffered injury on the missions. If it isn't then how did Colossus get injured and how did the Human Torch suffer so much damage.

I suffered no damage on the mission. If the Samurai can be believed (and that should be evaluated), Colossus hit me big. I'd like an explanation for that since it seems odd to go so strong on Day 1.

[Mimic]

Stephen Strange was among the most powerful of the being assembled. This does not bode well for the disciples of Apocalypse.

I am not sure if being a member of the Brotherhood will do any good at this point. I think that a new group needs to be assembled and the Prelates need to coordinate their actions. In that respect, I ask all Prelates to join me and of course Apocalypse is welcome as well. As far as I remember, I was the only one to order anyone to a mission. The other Prelates could've ordered a guard action last night. Just because you join this group doesn't mean that you can't lead a mission on Galactus, etc.

[b]LEAVE BROTHERHOOD OF MUTANTS
FORM PRELATES OF APOCALYPSE

INVITE SILVER SURFER
INVITE JEAN GREY
INVITE KANG THE CONQUEROR
INVITE APOCALYPSE[b]

[Mimic]

LEAVE BROTHERHOOD OF MUTANTS
FORM PRELATES OF APOCALYPSE

INVITE SILVER SURFER
INVITE JEAN GREY
INVITE KANG THE CONQUEROR
INVITE APOCALYPSE

[EmmaFrost]

A logical choice for the rebels to target given Dr Strange's power and his position in the ruling heirachy.

[Mimic]

As the most cleared person in our game, I nominate Magneto to become the 5th Prelate. This isn't to say that he is totally cleared, but he is probably the most cleared due to his actions yesterday on the Mutant Mission.

VOTE MAGNETO FOR 5TH PRELATE

[DrDoom]

This is most disturbing. While Strange insisted on calling himself Sorceror Supreme despite my clear dominance in sorcery, he did aid me once in a grave personal matter. Doom is now more determined to destroy these traitors.

I will retire to my computer to calculate the likelihood of treason among each of us.

[EmmaFrost]

I suffered no damage on the mission. If the Samurai can be believed (and that should be evaluated), Colossus hit me big. I'd like an explanation for that since it seems odd to go so strong on Day 1.

In which case we need to hear from Colossus concerning the injuries you suffered and how he was damaged himself.

[JeanGrey]

As the most cleared person in our game, I nominate Magneto to become the 5th Prelate. This isn't to say that he is totally cleared, but he is probably the most cleared due to his actions yesterday on the Mutant Mission.

VOTE MAGNETO FOR 5TH PRELATE
I would not presume to inform our leader about how he might best fill the prelate position.

[GhostRider]

In which case we need to hear from Colossus concerning the injuries you suffered and how he was damaged himself.

I'm assuming, which I know can be dangerous in these games, that Colossus likely found himself at the end of some sort of defense at the hands of the Zippo. I think the power of this attack is probably the most intriguing place to start today.

Do we have to vote on the prelate or is it just dictated by Apocalypse?

[GhostRider]

I answered it for myself. Apocalypse does dictate the next prelate so I will certainly leave that to him.

[EmmaFrost]

- In the event that a Prelate is killed, all eligible Prelates move up one rank and Apocalypse assigns a new Prelate. No new Prelates are assigned after the death of Apocalypse


It seems it is at the sole discretion of our master. I am sure we are allowed to voice our own opinions on the matter but the ultimate decision lies with Apocalypse.

[DrDoom]

I would hear from Colossus of the power of his attack, as this punishing damage done to the Human Torch smells of infamy. Perhaps his power cannot be tamed, in which case we must aim our attacks wisely. Or perhaps he or the samurai took advantage of the confusion.

Next on my list of suspects are those who piled on to attack Iron Fist. While Doom knows not of his innocence or guilt, it would be to the rebel's advantage to add another punch into the fray.

Lastly there are those who did not join a mission. The killer of Dr. Strange must have come from these, no? I can vouch for my absence on affairs of Apocalypse. What of the rest?

[HumanTorch]

In which case we need to hear from Colossus concerning the injuries you suffered and how he was damaged himself.

Is it possible that one of his "power attacks" either comes with a kick-back, or draws lifeforce to inflict extra damage?

[hoopsguy]

The forces of Apocalypse are gathered into a large meeting chamber at the start of the day. Mr. Sinister addresses the throng.

"The EurAsia forces have designed a 'peace keeping' solution that they are calling 'Sentinels' to defend their borders. These Sentinels are enlarged robots who maintain complex databases on each of us, and they are programmed to kill us on site. As a strictly defensive measure, this is not acceptable. It could be considerably worse if they were to launch these monstrosities against us directly. We will strike now, before the project is completed. Beware intervention from the rebellion, who may seek to use this distraction to keep us from rooting out their numbers."

Deadline for this mission is 3:30 PM CST.

[Mimic]

I would not presume to inform our leader about how he might best fill the prelate position.
I do not presume to tell him anything. I simply nominated an individual whom I think would provide great power as a Prelate.

On a different note, I have a surefire way to defeat Galactus, but I will need your assistance. I was in the process of sending you a PM when I remembered that I can no longer do that since I left the Brotherhood. I ask that all Prelates join the Prelates of Apocalypse so that we may coordinate our efforts.

[hoopsguy]

An additional administrative note - if you are spending one energy on a standard attack, Mission, or Galactus you do not need to send a PM. It is assumed. Just trying to save everyone a little time and space in the PM Inbox :)

[EmmaFrost]

In addition to the Standard Attack/Defense powers, a player may exercise one, and only one, of the following actions over the course of the day/night cycle:
- Special Attack/Ability: every player has at least one option that falls under this category.

Once a player has committed to one of these four actions they become ineligible for the other three. So if a player is participating in a mission they are not eligible for guard actions, Galactus actions, or using a Special Attack/Ability.

Many characters will have powers that can be used during the Night Cycle. This includes the "minority" force, who have the option to execute a night kill during this phase. Note that the night kills take energy, just like any other activity.

Lastly there are those who did not join a mission. The killer of Dr. Strange must have come from these, no? I can vouch for my absence on affairs of Apocalypse. What of the rest?

The instructions provided to us do seem to indicate this but are not completely clear. If the traitors ability to kill does count as a Special Ability then this seems to be the case. However if this is the case what is to prevent everyone commiting to the Galactus Mission, thus staving off the ability of the traitors to target our numbers at night. Admittedly this also means that none of our numbers would be able to expend themselves searching for traitors but that seems a price worth paying if they are not able to attack us at night. I presume that this cannot be the case

[Mimic]

Lastly there are those who did not join a mission. The killer of Dr. Strange must have come from these, no? I can vouch for my absence on affairs of Apocalypse. What of the rest?
I am a loyal subject of Apocalypse and would not kill a fellow Prelate.

[hoopsguy]

"Night kill" is not considered a special ability for many of the reasons outlined above.

[DrDoom]

Your answer seems wise, Ms. Frost. If not through this, what other methods do we have for rooting out the traitors? It is clear that their attacks require energy but it would be surpassingly difficult to track the energy spent by each of us. What indicators would there be? Low energy use on missions, if that can be determined, Doom thinks.

[EmmaFrost]

The forces of Apocalypse are gathered into a large meeting chamber at the start of the day. Mr. Sinister addresses the throng.

"The EurAsia forces have designed a 'peace keeping' solution that they are calling 'Sentinels' to defend their borders. These Sentinels are enlarged robots who maintain complex databases on each of us, and they are programmed to kill us on site. As a strictly defensive measure, this is not acceptable. It could be considerably worse if they were to launch these monstrosities against us directly. We will strike now, before the project is completed. Beware intervention from the rebellion, who may seek to use this distraction to keep us from rooting out their numbers."

Deadline for this mission is 3:30 PM CST.

I fear my powers are not suited to this mission, involving as it does, mindless autonotoms. It would seem this mission is best suited to the heavy hitters in our group, although some telepathis assistance may be required should the rebels seek to hinder the mission's progress through that channel. Following the failure of the previous mission and the consequent benefit to the rebellion I suggest that this mission should take priority over the mission to stave off Galactus on this day.

[Vision]

While it is true that ultimately we must stop the Eater of Worlds I question anyone who seeks to influence people onto a mission when their talents may be better deployed routing out the traitors. You appear to be taking a very active role in attempting to organise this mission, Vision. I find this of interest considering the fact that the traitors would be very happy if the majority of our resources were spent hindering Galactacus. The benefit for them is twofold as they are just as eager to stop him while it also provides them with a free hand in their attempt to seize power.

Ms. Frost, I see that the smallest seed of suspicion has taken root and flowered. I do not reciprocate that distrust toward you, so in the interest of our future cooperation, please allow me to sum up my reasoning:

We are faced with three dilemmas - finding the traitors, completing the missions, and driving off the galactic invader.
Our lord Apocalypse cannot triumph should we allow any of these goals to not be met.
We thirty are not equals, in durability, intellect, nor force projection.
Therefore it stands that we must use our unique abilities wisely.We have already seen ostensibly willing participants have no apparent impact on their goal - Gambit, Spiderman, Quicksilver spring to mind. Meanwhile Magneto, Silver Surfer, Kang, and Mr. Fantastic appeared to use their abilities to great effect.

Now, I have found myself surprised to learn that I was of minimal assistance facing down Galactus, though I had believed that would be where my talents lie.

So, in effect, Emma, I am begging off the Galactus portion of our assignment, but I am suggesting that Spiderman, Ghost Rider, and I be replaced by others more suited to the task.

[EmmaFrost]

Your answer seems wise, Ms. Frost. If not through this, what other methods do we have for rooting out the traitors? It is clear that their attacks require energy but it would be surpassingly difficult to track the energy spent by each of us. What indicators would there be? Low energy use on missions, if that can be determined, Doom thinks.

I was looking for signs of lack of commitment to the cause of the mission yesterday but saw none. As noted neither Quicksilver nor Gambit (nor Beast for that matter) seemed to have a noticeable effect on the mission but that could be as a result of their unsuitability for the task or for any other reason. I can also not rule out the possibility that a traitor appeared to be helping us, whilst plotting against us during the mission.

[SilverSamurai]

In case I cannot check in, I will also put forth my attack for the day.

STANDARD ATTACK COLOSSUS

I have not gone full with this attack at all, but I think he used far too strong an attack on the Human Torch, so he is my target today.

[EmmaFrost]

<OOC> I read up about Apocalypse, and it would seem that my "attack" would have almost pleased him, since he doesn't like lackey's that show weakness. I even read that he was happy one time that Archangel opposed Apocalypse, although he warned not to do it again. Not only that, but what would Hulk do? WWHD. <OOC>

Presuming this is your Banner persona I address , it seems strange that you would attack the only person we know for sure cannot be a traitor. While this might have been the lashings out of the wild savage we cannot discount the possibility that the attack was more measured than so and you now seek to disguise the fact.

[EmmaFrost]

<OOC> I read up about Apocalypse, and it would seem that my "attack" would have almost pleased him, since he doesn't like lackey's that show weakness. I even read that he was happy one time that Archangel opposed Apocalypse, although he warned not to do it again. Not only that, but what would Hulk do? WWHD. <OOC>

Presuming this is your Banner persona I address (ie , it seems strange that you would attack the only person we know for sure cannot be a traitor. While this might have been the lashings out of the wild savage we cannot discount the possibility that the attack was more measured than so and you now seek to disguise the fact.

[EmmaFrost]

[ ooc - oops! Premature hitting of reply there ]

ie don't hit me, my face is too pretty to be smashed by the Hulk. :)

[ ooc - that last bit was definitely in character. My actual face might actual benefit from a judicious piece of re-arrangement ]

[Cable]

I offer my services towards the Sentinel mission today. I do not think my abilities would be helpful in dealing with the World Killer Galactus.

If a Prelate or his greatness Apolcolypse wishes, I will do whatever I can to ensure the success of today's mission.

[EmmaFrost]

If there are doubts as to whether you will be able to commit later I would commit now rather than awaiting the orders of the ruling council.

[Vision]

As the most cleared person in our game, I nominate Magneto to become the 5th Prelate. This isn't to say that he is totally cleared, but he is probably the most cleared due to his actions yesterday on the Mutant Mission.

I may have missed something in all the excitement, but I wonder if you can support this statement.

[Quicksilver]

The thought is that he held together the ship on the last mission. And therefore he must be good.

[HumanTorch]

I may have to carefully consider the missions today. After rough treatment last night, I might need to rest up today.

[HumanTorch]

The thought is that he held together the ship on the last mission. And therefore he must be good.

What would have been the consequences of not holding the ship together? Surely preventing one's own death doesn't necessarily make one good?

[Cable]

CABLE COMMITS TO THE SENTINEL MISSION TODAY

[EmmaFrost]

I would choose between Dr. Doom and Iron Fist, had I no self will, meekly the following path tread by others.

I, however, do.

ATTACK THE HUMAN TORCH

My reasons are my own. Sayonara.

Perhaps I am confused, and Lord Apocalypse please correct me if I am mistaken, but the generic attacks, in my understanding, were for those who had not yet expended any points and needed to spend at least 1 point to get their full 4 eps overnight.

If this is in fact the case I will revoke my attack on Human Torch. If it is not, then I have to ponder the wisdom of such a command my lord, for surely it is folly to weaken our forces.

It seems Colossus is implying that he judged his attack to be the normal. Silver Samurai has also stated that he considered his attack normal. Were it not for the fact that Colossus suffered damage I would consider Silver Samurai, given his actions so far, far more deserving of suspicion. But there remains the possibility that Colossus over-powered his attack, thus injuring himself. I can think of several possible scenarios to explain this but would like to hear Colossus' explanation first.

[Mr.Fantastic]

I will happily make myself available to once again go on a mission if our ruling class sees that it is important for me to be out there. I do feel it is important though to allow the opportunity for others to prove their worth that did not do so yesterday, as that is one of the very few points of data that we have thus far to go on regarding people.

I will be unavailable much of today as I have other pressing matters, but I will be sure to be back to check and see if the consensus is that I am in fact needed one one mission or the other. Otherwise I plan on spending that time and energy on some research that I hope to prove fruitful at a later point.

[Quicksilver]

What would have been the consequences of not holding the ship together? Surely preventing one's own death doesn't necessarily make one good?


Exactly my thoughts.

[Quicksilver]

I am available for either mission that I am chosen for. I await my lords command.

[KangtheConqueror]

While it is true that ultimately we must stop the Eater of Worlds I question anyone who seeks to influence people onto a mission when their talents may be better deployed routing out the traitors. You appear to be taking a very active role in attempting to organise this mission, Vision. I find this of interest considering the fact that the traitors would be very happy if the majority of our resources were spent hindering Galactacus. The benefit for them is twofold as they are just as eager to stop him while it also provides them with a free hand in their attempt to seize power.

My thoughts exactly.

I'm all for helping out with Galactus (I seemed to hit him pretty well for 4 energy spent) but if we just focus on Galactus, we'll likely lose this game.

[JeanGrey]

I would encourage our heavy hitters, plus those like Dr Doom, to participate in today's mission. Remember I think we need a substantial show of force AND energy to avert yesterday's failure. I, alas, do not have the right skills for this mission.

[Vision]

The forces of Apocalypse are gathered into a large meeting chamber at the start of the day. Mr. Sinister addresses the throng.

"The EurAsia forces have designed a 'peace keeping' solution that they are calling 'Sentinels' to defend their borders. These Sentinels are enlarged robots who maintain complex databases on each of us, and they are programmed to kill us on site. As a strictly defensive measure, this is not acceptable. It could be considerably worse if they were to launch these monstrosities against us directly. We will strike now, before the project is completed. Beware intervention from the rebellion, who may seek to use this distraction to keep us from rooting out their numbers."

Deadline for this mission is 3:30 PM CST.

Now we are presented with a mission on which the Vision might show his worth.

JOIN SENTINEL MISSION

[DrDoom]

I would assume that Magneto's performance in the mission reflects how much energy he directed toward it. Those who spend a small amount of energy on the mission are more likely to fail in their role. It does not say much but it suggests to Doom that Magneto perhaps expended more energy than required on the mission, investing in its success. Others who fail at their tasks may be suspect of having put the minimal energy towards it.

[DrDoom]

Alas, Ms. Grey, Dr. Doom must spend my action today rebuilding my armor, or lay defenseless tonight. As Doom spoke earlier, I will commit to either mission tomorrow on Day Three once I am ready again for combat.

This shows that indiscriminate attacks are only of aid to the rebels. I suggest we coordinate our attacks today or risk having several faithful servants destroyed. I do not believe anyone has reason to suspect that Iron Fist, Human Torch or I are rebels, and yet we are all heavily damaged and at risk of death. Moreover, our Lord Apocalypse himself has been wounded. Doom vows to attack whoever the Prelates choose, and urges the others to follow suit.

[HenryPym]

First off, we shall avenge you Prelate Dr. Strange, never fear. Hopefully someone will have some information on your attackers for us to pursue. Alas, I do not have any such information.

Second I believe my abilities will serve us quite well in the newest mission against these Sentinels if any of them are indeed active. So I will join that mission.

HENRY PYM COMMITS TO THE SENTINEL MISSION

[JeanGrey]

Dr Doom: Just how close are you to death anyway? Let's be real specific here.

[Vision]

Presuming this is your Banner persona I address , it seems strange that you would attack the only person we know for sure cannot be a traitor. While this might have been the lashings out of the wild savage we cannot discount the possibility that the attack was more measured than so and you now seek to disguise the fact.

I feared Hulk's reprisal the moment our lord struck him. It is my opinion that our green behemoth acted exactly as he always does.

Presuming this is your Banner persona I address (ie , it seems strange that you would attack the only person we know for sure cannot be a traitor. While this might have been the lashings out of the wild savage we cannot discount the possibility that the attack was more measured than so and you now seek to disguise the fact.

I feared Hulk's reprisal the moment our lord struck him. It is my opinion that our green behemoth acted exactly as he always does.


[ ooc - ;) ]

[JeanGrey]

Aardwolf, if you still are around your thoughts, whatever they may be, would be welcome.

[Vision]

I may have missed something in all the excitement, but I wonder if you can support this statement.



The thought is that he held together the ship on the last mission. And therefore he must be good.

My thanks, Pietro. Upon re-reading, I see my error. I had interpret the Prelate's post as saying that he was the most cleared, now I see he meant Magneto.

To which I agree, cautiously.

[Aardwolf]

Actions do speak louder than words and I feel better about Emma today than yesterday. I am still being watched closely by those who I feel are being controled by the traitors to take my time away from finding them. With that sai, this may be my only post of the day but I feel that I should be able to get away from their trap tonight via a large flying machine.

With that said:

attack Silver Samurai

If I recall correctly he was too quick to jump at the day one bail out attack plan proposed by Emma Frost. After thinking about this I feel that proposing the plan is less suspicious than being too quick to agree for the "easy out" of a day one attack. I am almost out of time but look at the attacks from yesterday and you will see something else suspicious, considering his agreement to the minimal attack plan (either him or the other person making an attack yesterday).

I was going to change to him yesterday but was immediately under surveillance from these forces of evil and I had to end all communications post haste.

[KangtheConqueror]

While I commend Magneto for performing admirably on the mission, I see no reason to prematurely name him as our most cleared. I'll let the 5th prelate spot go to whom our master decides upon.

While I'll stop short of saying this Mimic-Magneto tango looks contrived, it's another thing I'll have an eye on.

[KangtheConqueror]

Regarding the mission, I'll go on either. I think I'm well-suited for either.

I'm not sure if making a Prelate team is the wisest manuever out there either Mimic. My hunch is that there is someone with a power out there to hinder a team in it's entirety and allowing our most important members to all take damage would be a tenuous spot upon our defenses from a traitorous win-condition.

[Vision]

What would have been the consequences of not holding the ship together? Surely preventing one's own death doesn't necessarily make one good?

Exactly my thoughts.

Yes, gentlemen, it is clear that excelling on a mission does not clear one. My point of agreeing with Mimic's "cleared" comment is more a feeling I have gotten from Erik's post since we first gathered here.

[Magneto]

Were it not for the fact that Colossus suffered damage I would consider Silver Samurai, given his actions so far, far more deserving of suspicion. But there remains the possibility that Colossus over-powered his attack, thus injuring himself. I can think of several possible scenarios to explain this but would like to hear Colossus' explanation first.

Ms. Frost, you express my own sentiments well with this.

I am in something of a quandary with regard to today's missions. Galactus seeks to devour our world with machines. And the Sentinels, which threaten us, are also mechanized devices. Violent disassembly of metallic objects is my own particular...idiom. I sense that I have value on both missions.

Sentinels which I have destroyed in the past have been designed specifically for the eradication of homo sapiens superior, not so much those whose powers come from a bottle or another source. I offer this as a possible criteria to Apocalypse and our Prelates in determining what resources to encourage to go on which mission.

I appreciate the respect shown by the Second Prelate earlier. In all things, I we submit to the will of Apocalypse.

[DrDoom]

Dr Doom: Just how close are you to death anyway? Let's be real specific here.

That would seem to be unwise information for Doom, or any of us, to reveal. Why should we aid the rebels in carefully aiming their attacks and expending their energy?

[Magneto]

I would assume that Magneto's performance in the mission reflects how much energy he directed toward it. Those who spend a small amount of energy on the mission are more likely to fail in their role.

I find your rantings generally erratic and often insane, but my sense is that this is probably correct.

[Vision]

Dr Doom: Just how close are you to death anyway? Let's be real specific here.

Victor, I suggest caution in your reply. Remember that your audience is not homogenously friendly to you.

[JeanGrey]

That would seem to be unwise information for Doom, or any of us, to reveal. Why should we aid the rebels in carefully aiming their attacks and expending their energy?
Because I feel your skills are highly needed on the mission, but sending someone to a death sentence isn't part of my ethos.

[KangtheConqueror]

Yeah, I don't think it wise to be telling how much energy we have. I for one wouldn't fault the Doomster for dodging that one (though I understand what JG was aiming for).

[Vision]

Because I feel your skills are highly needed on the mission, but sending someone to a death sentence isn't part of my ethos.

I believe he answered your question prior to you asking. He intends to spend the day rebuilding his armor. I am puzzled by both your question, and your follow-up.

[JeanGrey]

I believe he answered your question prior to you asking. He intends to spend the day rebuilding his armor. I am puzzled by both your question, and your follow-up.
There are needs and there are wants. I understand he wants to spend the day rebuilding and regrouping. I also understand our need of stopping the sentinels. I am wondering where his repairing falls on the need/want spectrum vs our need/want to have a successful mission. Our failure yesterday still burns within me. I do not not want a repeat and will use my power as Prelate to try and ensure that such a failure does not occur again.

[NickFury]

And the traitors strike while many of you seem content to run around aimlessly in your jammies.

[HumanTorch]

There are needs and there are wants. I understand he wants to spend the day rebuilding and regrouping. I also understand our need of stopping the sentinels. I am wondering where his repairing falls on the need/want spectrum vs our need/want to have a successful mission. Our failure yesterday still burns within me. I do not not want a repeat and will use my power as Prelate to try and ensure that such a failure does not occur again.

I agree that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one or the few (Thanks Spock), but do remember that we have 29 remaining team members. I'm all for knocking someone off to help us find the rebels, but we should be able to find a suitable replacement for Doom if he doesn't feel he can do the mission. I'd like to see those who haven't been part of a mission step up and throw some energy into the fray.

[hoopsguy]

Two items of note:
1.) Jewel is withdrawing from the game
2.) See the "Character Guesses" thread for information on an in-game contest

[NickFury]

These sentinels are a real threat. We need information for our mission on how these robots are vulnerable. I leave for a mission to find out.

(ooc) I'm off to work, will we back around 5 central

[Mimic]

Yes, gentlemen, it is clear that excelling on a mission does not clear one. My point of agreeing with Mimic's "cleared" comment is more a feeling I have gotten from Erik's post since we first gathered here.

I believe it was general consensus that Magneto came out looking the best in the mission yesterday. If Quicksilver and the Torch had thoughts about it, why didn't they come forth yesterday?

I reiterate my claim that I can stop Galactus. I cannot stop him by myself and I cannot stop him for another three days (I need to conserve my energy). The toll will be great on me, but I will need another's assistance once I defeat Galactus.

It may be prudent to still attack Galactus since he may do something in the time it takes for me to "charge" up.

I will need the other Prelates' assistance, specifically Jean and Magneto...so I ask them again to join the Prelates of Apocalypse.

[SilverSurfer]

I could however envision a team comprised of the Surfer, Torch, Kang, Doom, Hulk, Stephen Strange, Magneto, and (on alternating days to allow for their research) Richards and Pym. This would be a formidable force indeed against even the might of the Ravager of Worlds.

(ooc) Stephen Strange? (/ooc)

[Mimic]

Dr. Strange, who was killed last night

[SilverSurfer]

While it is true that ultimately we must stop the Eater of Worlds I question anyone who seeks to influence people onto a mission when their talents may be better deployed routing out the traitors. You appear to be taking a very active role in attempting to organise this mission, Vision. I find this of interest considering the fact that the traitors would be very happy if the majority of our resources were spent hindering Galactacus. The benefit for them is twofold as they are just as eager to stop him while it also provides them with a free hand in their attempt to seize power.

I believe Vision has been quite helpful thus far in suggesting missions. I also believe Vision has been quite open in ingratiating himself with the prelates and Apocalypse. While I appreciate the services thus far, I am also quite wary of him.

[KangtheConqueror]

Mimic, I think there are multiple people, myself included, who have a long-to-develop ability to defeat Galactus. I worry though that using this tact as a main source of planet-eating-prevention is unwise.

I also have the ability to take a number of days to build a device to remove Galactus, but if it comes at the cost of not having my around to do any missions, is it really our best tact?

[KangtheConqueror]

I believe Vision has been quite helpful thus far in suggesting missions. I also believe Vision has been quite open in ingratiating himself with the prelates and Apocalypse. While I appreciate the services thus far, I am also quite wary of him.

Ditto this, fellow prelate.

[HumanTorch]

I believe it was general consensus that Magneto came out looking the best in the mission yesterday. If Quicksilver and the Torch had thoughts about it, why didn't they come forth yesterday?


There is a big difference between doing well in a mission and being "cleared". I don't disagree that he did well in the mission. I do disagree that it puts him more than a hair above anyone else. We know that he didn't sabotage the mission, but we don't know if that is because he couldn't (he's on our team), or because he chose not to.

[Mimic]

Mimic, I think there are multiple people, myself included, who have a long-to-develop ability to defeat Galactus. I worry though that using this tact as a main source of planet-eating-prevention is unwise.

I also have the ability to take a number of days to build a device to remove Galactus, but if it comes at the cost of not having my around to do any missions, is it really our best tact?

I'm not sure. Certainly your ability is better than mine, since I would need the aid of another player to remove Galactus. Certainly Galactus is one of the win conditions and if we can remove him from the equation or develop a good strategy to remove him, we can concentrate on rooting out the traitors.

Even if it takes you a few days to defeat Galactus, I think removing one player for a few days to eliminate a long-term threat is worth it. There are plenty of people left to pursue the other missions. If we were down to 10 people, I think we would think about this in a different manner.

[Mimic]

There is a big difference between doing well in a mission and being "cleared". I don't disagree that he did well in the mission. I do disagree that it puts him more than a hair above anyone else. We know that he didn't sabotage the mission, but we don't know if that is because he couldn't (he's on our team), or because he chose not to.

I said that he was the most cleared of us. I didn't say he was entirely cleared. If he isn't the most cleared, then who is?

[KangtheConqueror]

I'm not sure. Certainly your ability is better than mine, since I would need the aid of another player to remove Galactus. Certainly Galactus is one of the win conditions and if we can remove him from the equation or develop a good strategy to remove him, we can concentrate on rooting out the traitors.

Even if it takes you a few days to defeat Galactus, I think removing one player for a few days to eliminate a long-term threat is worth it. There are plenty of people left to pursue the other missions. If we were down to 10 people, I think we would think about this in a different manner.

Let's see how signups for the missions shake up and then I'll decide. If I'm not needed then maybe I'll start charging what I need to do.

I think either way though, we should have our A-game on for the sentinel mission (lots of people, good amount of energy) and a strong subset of people headed to hopefully stave off Galactus another day. If it takes me 3-4 days we certainly don't want to put all our eggs in my basket (or yours, or even both of ours)

[SilverSurfer]

And the traitors strike while many of you seem content to run around aimlessly in your jammies.

I see much commentary but very little else from you, human.

[Vision]

I believe Vision has been quite helpful thus far in suggesting missions. I also believe Vision has been quite open in ingratiating himself with the prelates and Apocalypse. While I appreciate the services thus far, I am also quite wary of him.

Ditto this, fellow prelate.

I understand your wariness, and think that it is wise indeed for us all to remember that any of us, excepting only apocalypse himself, may be hiding a face of betrayal.

It may not be until the end, when all traces of resistance have fallen, that the Vision will get his due reward for his exertions. I am prepared to weather your suspicions, as I believe my contributions to our success will continue to outweigh the nagging questions that you may have, uncertain as you are of my true motives. Only my actions may speak to my loyalty.

[Magneto]

I am who I am. Not more, not less. I assure all assembled that I am entirely devoted to Lord Apocalypse and his Prelates. I did my best in the mission yesterday. Ultimately, it was a failure, so I can only be "cleared" so much.

I have attempted to provide what suggestions and leadership I could to further the goals of Apocalypse. I will continue to do so.

I have thought about it considerably. A prelate has asked that I accompany him to the mission to fight Galactus, and unless the First Prelate or Apocalypse direct me otherwise, I do not see that I can legitimately refuse.

Join Galactus Mission

[HenryPym]

I'm not sure. Certainly your ability is better than mine, since I would need the aid of another player to remove Galactus. Certainly Galactus is one of the win conditions and if we can remove him from the equation or develop a good strategy to remove him, we can concentrate on rooting out the traitors.

Even if it takes you a few days to defeat Galactus, I think removing one player for a few days to eliminate a long-term threat is worth it. There are plenty of people left to pursue the other missions. If we were down to 10 people, I think we would think about this in a different manner.

I would agree with the second Prelate here. Our very existence is at stake with Galactus. If there are people amongst us who can slow/stop his advance, it is best we let them work now when there are more of us around to cover for their absences in missions. But we should also not just blindly accept it when someone, forgive me prelates and outside of Lord Apocalypse of course, tells us they have a way to defeat the World-Devourer and needs time to develop it. That would be a very good place for the opposition to attempt to hide their true intentions from us. I have no suspicion of either Prelate Kang or Mimic when I say that-just thought we need to consider that point is all.

[Magneto]

I will need the other Prelates' assistance, specifically Jean and Magneto...so I ask them again to join the Prelates of Apocalypse.

With respect, Prelate, I am not one of your number and do not feel it proper for me to join your group. I believe it makes the most sense for me to remain a member of the Brotherhood.

[KangtheConqueror]

Agreed Henry. I realize that in a way but spilling the beans on my ability casts upon myself the same shadow I'm suggesting, but it warrants a mention. I also think it unlikely that Mimic and myself are the only two with this ability.

[KangtheConqueror]

If I quit my current team and join the prelate team but don't go on the mission does that hinder the team effect?

[Mr.Fantastic]

I believe Vision has been quite helpful thus far in suggesting missions. I also believe Vision has been quite open in ingratiating himself with the prelates and Apocalypse. While I appreciate the services thus far, I am also quite wary of him.

I believe that Vision was attempting to try to fill a void in mission organization that was much needed and wanted. Evidently he has more time available to the cause and can dedicate more of his focus to ensure that we were organized. I don't think he was trying to push any kind of agenda, but instead I got the feeling that he was attempting to step up as no one else appeared to have the desire to do so.

I am a bit wary of others that come across as attempting to subtly discourage people who are trying to participate as it feels to me as if they are in turn trying to discourage mission preparation and mission organization. I would encourage Vision to continue to try to work that he has started as it appears very few others right now either have the time or desire to ensure that our missions are covered adequately. I would also hope that Vision received some consideration for the empty Prelate position as he has shown more leadership thus far than many of the other worthy considerations for the placement.

[SilverSurfer]

There is a big difference between doing well in a mission and being "cleared". I don't disagree that he did well in the mission. I do disagree that it puts him more than a hair above anyone else. We know that he didn't sabotage the mission, but we don't know if that is because he couldn't (he's on our team), or because he chose not to.

It remains my firm belief that the traitors will not sabotage any mission at least at this early date. The suspicion gathered is not worth the benefit in my eyes.

[hoopsguy]

If I quit my current team and join the prelate team but don't go on the mission does that hinder the team effect?

Team impact on Mission is predicated on number of participating teammates. At least at this stage in the game :) Guys on sidelines don't hurt the team on the Mission, but don't benefit them either.

[HenryPym]

So anyone believe they have a strong candidate for us to pursue with our attacks today? There is something to inspect in the Silver Samurai/Human Torch/Colossus triangle perhaps, but mostly I feel we are grasping at straws still much like Day 1.

[SilverSurfer]

I'm not sure. Certainly your ability is better than mine, since I would need the aid of another player to remove Galactus. Certainly Galactus is one of the win conditions and if we can remove him from the equation or develop a good strategy to remove him, we can concentrate on rooting out the traitors.

Do you know the specific player you need the aid from?

[SilverSurfer]

I said that he was the most cleared of us. I didn't say he was entirely cleared. If he isn't the most cleared, then who is?

Apocalypse.

[HumanTorch]

I said that he was the most cleared of us. I didn't say he was entirely cleared. If he isn't the most cleared, then who is?

He may be the most cleared of us, but it is by an amount so small that the distinction isn't helpful. I wouldn't put him on the suspect list, but I also wouldn't take him off of the completely unknown list.

In my mind you are making a scary jump to any level of "cleared". It makes me wonder if you decided not to sabotage the mission just so this cleared talk could come up.

[Vision]

Let's see how signups for the missions shake up and then I'll decide. If I'm not needed then maybe I'll start charging what I need to do.

I think either way though, we should have our A-game on for the sentinel mission (lots of people, good amount of energy) and a strong subset of people headed to hopefully stave off Galactus another day. If it takes me 3-4 days we certainly don't want to put all our eggs in my basket (or yours, or even both of ours)

Kang, if you truly believe that you might be able in a mere three or four days to rid us entirely of the threat from Galactus, then I say that you, and Mimic as well, would do well to begin those preparations now.

While we still have so many present, this is the time when we can most afford your absence from daily missions. Mimic alluded to this as well.

In the mean time, a team of seven, at least two of which were minimally helpful, seemed to give Galactus pause. I would venture to say we can continue that effort without you two, for a few days, rotating participants as necessary.

That should leave us plenty of talent to draw from to react to these missions. And when the otherworldly threat is gone, we'll have even more resources at our disposal to root out the vermin among us.

In summary, I see dedicating seven of us to the threat of Galactus, with the expectation of that investment paying off within four days, as a very wise use of our abilities.

[ProfessorX]

busy morning

If it is determined that a telepath might add the mission against the Sentinals, I am happy to pledge my service there today. The lack of a mission and my attack yesterday means that I could devote more than standard energy to the mission. Or I could rest and continue to build energy for a more suitable mission.

[Mimic]

With respect, Prelate, I am not one of your number and do not feel it proper for me to join your group. I believe it makes the most sense for me to remain a member of the Brotherhood.

Unfortunately I jumped the gun and quit the Brotherhood before I had coordinated actions with you. I understand completely and wish you the best of luck with the Brotherhood. Perhaps when Apocalypse checks in, things will change.

[SilverSurfer]

I understand your wariness, and think that it is wise indeed for us all to remember that any of us, excepting only apocalypse himself, may be hiding a face of betrayal.

It may not be until the end, when all traces of resistance have fallen, that the Vision will get his due reward for his exertions. I am prepared to weather your suspicions, as I believe my contributions to our success will continue to outweigh the nagging questions that you may have, uncertain as you are of my true motives. Only my actions may speak to my loyalty.

I do wish for you to continue as you have, you have helped to increase my knowledge of members I am not so familiar with. As you say, your actions will speak for you.

[KangtheConqueror]

OK then

Leave current team (Strike?)

Join Prelate team

[DrDoom]

Ms. Grey, to better answer your concern, I am at risk of dying from a single attack tonight if I do not first repair my armor. No more shall Doom reveal lest the traitors prosper and Doom falls, leaving Lord Apocalypse with one less servant.

[Mr.Fantastic]

After much thought and consideration, I also am a bit wary of a few things that Mimic has brought forth. Perhaps it is not my place to criticize a prelate, and if that is the case I expect Apocolypse to punish me accordingly.. however I feel there is a seperate agenda at hand here somewhat.

Mimic was the only one eager enough to forcefully assign someone on a mission that ended up disastrously, to the point of sending them without any time for preparation before hand.

Mimic seemed overly eager to assign clearance to another member based on the results of the failed mission yesterday by proclaiming Magneto to be "most cleared". This is not meant as any slight to Magneto as he has come across with his words and actions to me as one that is not a traitor, and I don't have any negative feelings regarding him, I feel this direct correlation of mission result to clearance is faulty at best.

I am concerned with Mimic overstepping his role by already including Magneto in on a prelate team before any such thing has happened..

And I am very concerned that after all of my talk yesterday regarding how important the teams may end up being for mission bonuses and the like, that today Mimic feels it necessary to not ruin only one team's chemistry, but instead is trying to break apart multiple teams and any bonus that we may be working on (due to time spent together as a team) in order to form a new team.

Perhaps I am just misunderstanding his intentions greatly, but the sum of all of these actions cause me a slight bit of concern today. Once again if this is not my place to criticize a prelate, I humbly apologize, but felt it needed to be said.

[Mimic]

Do you know the specific player you need the aid from?

I may receive aid from yourself as well as some others in the group. Perhaps if you are so inclined 1st Prelate, you could aid me. I would need you to "charge" me so that I could remove Galactus. You may PM the GMs to work out the specifics.

[Scarlet Witch]

There's a Prelate team?

[Mimic]

OK then

Leave current team (Strike?)

Join Prelate team

Welcome to the team. Hopefully the other Prelates will join us as well as Lord Apocalypse.

[SilverSurfer]

I believe that Vision was attempting to try to fill a void in mission organization that was much needed and wanted. Evidently he has more time available to the cause and can dedicate more of his focus to ensure that we were organized. I don't think he was trying to push any kind of agenda, but instead I got the feeling that he was attempting to step up as no one else appeared to have the desire to do so.

I am in agreement with you as to the worth of Vision's services to date. I would be remiss though were I not to note the other possible motivation for such early service.

[Scarlet Witch]

Apocalypse.

Are you sure your superhero name isn't Captain Obvious?

[GhostRider]

As Prelates jump to the Prelate team, I would like to see some of the remainders of those other teams consider joining S.H.I.E.L.D. with Nick Fury, Spiderman, and myself. I'm thinking that if we had two more members, that five of us could use the team benefit and maybe take down the sentinels as a group (or maybe I'm mistaken that there is no benefit for acting as a team).

[Scarlet Witch]

I must have missed something here, sorry if I'm having trouble keeping on top of all this. But does the idea of the Prelates joining the same team worry anyone else?

[Mimic]

After much thought and consideration, I also am a bit wary of a few things that Mimic has brought forth. Perhaps it is not my place to criticize a prelate, and if that is the case I expect Apocolypse to punish me accordingly.. however I feel there is a seperate agenda at hand here somewhat.

Mimic was the only one eager enough to forcefully assign someone on a mission that ended up disastrously, to the point of sending them without any time for preparation before hand.

Mimic seemed overly eager to assign clearance to another member based on the results of the failed mission yesterday by proclaiming Magneto to be "most cleared". This is not meant as any slight to Magneto as he has come across with his words and actions to me as one that is not a traitor, and I don't have any negative feelings regarding him, I feel this direct correlation of mission result to clearance is faulty at best.

I am concerned with Mimic overstepping his role by already including Magneto in on a prelate team before any such thing has happened..

And I am very concerned that after all of my talk yesterday regarding how important the teams may end up being for mission bonuses and the like, that today Mimic feels it necessary to not ruin only one team's chemistry, but instead is trying to break apart multiple teams and any bonus that we may be working on (due to time spent together as a team) in order to form a new team.

Perhaps I am just misunderstanding his intentions greatly, but the sum of all of these actions cause me a slight bit of concern today. Once again if this is not my place to criticize a prelate, I humbly apologize, but felt it needed to be said.

You are insightful Richards. I formulated a plan last night to remove Galactus from the game. Unfortunately, the convergence of a few events precipitated this measure. I have a plan at this point and I believe that even though I will require the aid of another (and possibly one more after I remove Galactus) the end result will be one mission accomplished and a cleared player (myself). Perhaps I overstep my role, but if you follow my lead I will only need a few days to remove a threat to all of us and will only require few resources to do so.

[Mimic]

I meant to say that the convergence of a few events precipitated the measure of the formulation of a Prelate team.

[Vision]

busy morning

If it is determined that a telepath might add the mission against the Sentinals, I am happy to pledge my service there today. The lack of a mission and my attack yesterday means that I could devote more than standard energy to the mission. Or I could rest and continue to build energy for a more suitable mission.

Charles, bear with me on this because I don't know a great deal about the powers of Emma Frost, Jean Grey, or yourself, except as an observer, and by your reputation as mighty telepaths.

My opinion, though, is that none of the three of you are likely to be well suited for stopping Galactus. Barring Jean harnessing the Pheonix Force, of course, if that is something she is currently able to do.

And as mutants, I know that you have all had run-ins with the Sentinels for decades, however my belief is that we have enough brute-strength types among us that we can throw into this mission.

In finding the subversives among us, however, I would surmise that you three would reign supreme with your particular talents. Would you agree that it might be best for those with the faculties for it, stay behind and use their abilities to seek enemies?

[Magneto]

I believe it was general consensus that Magneto came out looking the best in the mission yesterday. If Quicksilver and the Torch had thoughts about it, why didn't they come forth yesterday?

I reiterate my claim that I can stop Galactus. I cannot stop him by myself and I cannot stop him for another three days (I need to conserve my energy). The toll will be great on me, but I will need another's assistance once I defeat Galactus.

It may be prudent to still attack Galactus since he may do something in the time it takes for me to "charge" up.

I will need the other Prelates' assistance, specifically Jean and Magneto...so I ask them again to join the Prelates of Apocalypse.

Second Prelate, I think I misread this earlier. Are you asking me to help you charge or go on a Galactus mission?

[KangtheConqueror]

Mimic - No offense, but I'm not clearing you if you kill Galactus (nor would I expect to be cleared should I do the same).

Goodies and baddies alike need him gone.

[Mimic]

The other thing is that I believe Jean Grey will be essential to the Prelate team. She should know why.

[ProfessorX]

I must have missed something here, sorry if I'm having trouble keeping on top of all this. But does the idea of the Prelates joining the same team worry anyone else?

Yes. Not only as was pointed out, that Mimic "jumped the gun" by asking Eric to join, but that it is indeed breaking apart the chemistry of existing teams. It would also be quite easy for one traitor in the Prelate team (if another exists) to drive an agenda and convince other Prelates that they should share their plans to give the rebellion advance notice of our strengths and weaknesses, and potentially even cripple important servants of Apocalypse.

Upon further reading about this proposed Prelate-team, it concerns me greatly.

[DrDoom]

Doom agrees that Kang at least should focus on ridding us of Galactus if indeed he has that power. If he fails to have done so after the time given then we will know who to target. Mimic's power sounds less useful and perhaps should be held us a backup.

In the meantime our best bet for delaying Galactus is to rid ourselves ofa traitor, as I understand it. Doom is unsure how our attacks on the planet eater affect this, but I know that each day a traitor is destroyed Galactus is held at bay.

If Kang may destroy Galactus, and our lynches may delay him, it would seem that we should put most of our effort into this Sentinel mission, while not ignoring Galactus entirely. Are there any others who have a power more useful than these missions? Doom wishes to know.

[Mimic]

Second Prelate, I think I misread this earlier. Are you asking me to help you charge or go on a Galactus mission?

I would need your assistance to charge.

[KangtheConqueror]

I must have missed something here, sorry if I'm having trouble keeping on top of all this. But does the idea of the Prelates joining the same team worry anyone else?

I was hestitant on it yes. But if this grouping helps us aid in Galactus-killing efforts, I think the reward outweighs the risk.

[SilverSurfer]

I believe that those who would be able to aid us in clearing members should be focusing on that task rather than volunteering on missions that may preclude that activity.

I request (not order) that either Vision or someone else with the knowledge or time suggest mission lineups keeping the following in mind:

Sentinel mission should have members that can be effective against machinery. Brute force would also be a benefit I would think, as well as fluidity of action.

Galactus mission should have members that can operate on a cosmic level.

If I am mistaken in the necessities of these missions, please enlighten.

[Mimic]

Mimic - No offense, but I'm not clearing you if you kill Galactus (nor would I expect to be cleared should I do the same).

Goodies and baddies alike need him gone.

I would guarantee that I would be cleared. I can't say why now, but you'll find out after it is over.

That being said, I think that I have enough inherent defensive abilities to ward off attacks while I'm conserving energy so it may be more prudent for me to take on Galactus than you, especially since we're discussing this in the open.

[ProfessorX]

I think Vision that you would be correct in assuming that. I also hope that Jean and Eric consider carefully the motivations of Mimic in the creation of this Prelate team, and the cohesion and trust that the Brotherhood was beginning to develop, before she decides on a course of action.

Without revealing detail - I believe Jean to be good. I would place her on a level above Eric at this time, as the most cleared of us (apart from Apocalypse). This is because of something that Jean told me about herself.

As such, I am naturally resistant to see her leave my side, when I know that at least I am good, and join a team where there might be potential evil waiting to attempt to subvert her or destroy her.

[Mimic]

For those who question me openly, this would be a very bold play to make so early in the game. Either I haven't played before (or in a while) and I don't know what I'm doing or I'm a very stupid traitor.

[Scarlet Witch]

I was hestitant on it yes. But if this grouping helps us aid in Galactus-killing efforts, I think the reward outweighs the risk.

I'll agree to that. Can you run the 'reward' aspect of this by me again?

[KangtheConqueror]

Doom agrees that Kang at least should focus on ridding us of Galactus if indeed he has that power. If he fails to have done so after the time given then we will know who to target. Mimic's power sounds less useful and perhaps should be held us a backup.

In the meantime our best bet for delaying Galactus is to rid ourselves ofa traitor, as I understand it. Doom is unsure how our attacks on the planet eater affect this, but I know that each day a traitor is destroyed Galactus is held at bay.

If Kang may destroy Galactus, and our lynches may delay him, it would seem that we should put most of our effort into this Sentinel mission, while not ignoring Galactus entirely. Are there any others who have a power more useful than these missions? Doom wishes to know.

Doom - I've stated before and I'll state it again. Putting all the eggs in my basket would be foolish. Basically I have to work on an effort to maniuplate time so large so as to send Galactus, big as he is into a whole other timeline. My guesstimate is 3-4 days depending on the energy I can devote to it.

[Magneto]

I see I did not understand what you were asking.

Unjoin Galactus Mission

[Mimic]

I think Vision that you would be correct in assuming that. I also hope that Jean and Eric consider carefully the motivations of Mimic in the creation of this Prelate team, and the cohesion and trust that the Brotherhood was beginning to develop, before she decides on a course of action.

Without revealing detail - I believe Jean to be good. I would place her on a level above Eric at this time, as the most cleared of us (apart from Apocalypse). This is because of something that Jean told me about herself.

As such, I am naturally resistant to see her leave my side, when I know that at least I am good, and join a team where there might be potential evil waiting to attempt to subvert her or destroy her.

If Jean needs me to spell it out for her, I can. I would prefer not to, but I will in the interests of Apocalypse. That being said, beware your tone of voice. I am the Second Prelate of Apocalypse and you are but a minion.

[KangtheConqueror]

I'll agree to that. Can you run the 'reward' aspect of this by me again?

My understanding was that the team was created to help aid in the benefit of Mimic stopping Galactus. Pretty big reward IMO

[Vision]

I was hestitant on it yes. But if this grouping helps us aid in Galactus-killing efforts, I think the reward outweighs the risk.

But I fail to follow the logic. How will a Prelate-only team aid in staving off Galactus?

[Mimic]

I'll agree to that. Can you run the 'reward' aspect of this by me again?

The reward aspect is removing Galactus and thereby meeting one of the win conditions.

[KangtheConqueror]

I would guarantee that I would be cleared. I can't say why now, but you'll find out after it is over.

That being said, I think that I have enough inherent defensive abilities to ward off attacks while I'm conserving energy so it may be more prudent for me to take on Galactus than you, especially since we're discussing this in the open.

Understood.

My main point is, if the write-up is akin to "MIMIC KILLS GALACTUS"

I'll cheer loudly, but not clear you.

I'm presuming it's more than that and if so, let's work on it.

I think if both of us (and possibly anyone else) starts putting in efforts to begin these plans to refute Galactus we should at some point become successful.

In the meantime I support the idea that we attempt to continue to delay him.

[Mimic]

But I fail to follow the logic. How will a Prelate-only team aid in staving off Galactus?

At the time, the Prelate only team would aid in staving off Galactus as well as root out the traitors. At this point, it would simply be useful to root out traitors. I cannot tell you any more than that at this point...although at this rate, you may find out anyhow later today.

[KangtheConqueror]

But I fail to follow the logic. How will a Prelate-only team aid in staving off Galactus?

IIRC that's what Mimic said he needed. Unless I'm misunderstood.

Mimic?

[Quicksilver]

I must have missed something here, sorry if I'm having trouble keeping on top of all this. But does the idea of the Prelates joining the same team worry anyone else?
yes, talk about all your eggs in one basket!

[KangtheConqueror]

At the time, the Prelate only team would aid in staving off Galactus as well as root out the traitors. At this point, it would simply be useful to root out traitors. I cannot tell you any more than that at this point...although at this rate, you may find out anyhow later today.

Wait, now I'm confused. No offense, but I think we can hunt traitors on our original teams and not put ourselves at risk of any baddie who has a power to effect a whole team.

I"m second guessing this formation.

Thoughts by other prelates?

[HumanTorch]

I am the Second Prelate of Apocalypse and you are but a minion.

I'm not advocating this, but the above fact could be rectified, could it not?

[Mimic]

Maybe I'm confused here. Although a traitor would be able to influence a whole team with words, maybe I made a huge assumption that a traitor would not have a power to affect an entire team. If that's the case, then certainly all of the Prelates should not join.

Regardless, I think it would be useful if most of the Prelates joined and perhaps the Silver Surfer or the as-yet-unnamed Fifth Prelate stayed off. However, Jean's powers would be essential to this team.

[Vision]

In response to Silver Surfer's request. These suggestions are based on: my impression of each member's power level, stated goals/abilities, and two that I left off for obvious reasons.

Galactus, Sentinels, Finding Traitors

1. Nightcrawler
2. Emma Frost
3. Ghost Rider
4. Hulk
5. Apocalypse (head honcho)
6. Silver Surfer (1st Prelate)
7. Colossus
8. Jean Grey (5th Prelate, promoted to 4th Prelate to start Day 2)
9. Professor X
10. Mr. Fantastic
11. Iron Fist
12. Mimic (2nd Prelate)
13. Henry Pym
14. Vision
15. Kang the Conqueror (3rd Prelate)
16. Beast
17. Dr. Doom
18. Cable
19. Firebird
21. Quicksilver
22. Aardwolf
23. Nick Fury
25. Spider Man
26. Magneto
27. Punisher
28. Human Torch
29. Gambit
30. Scarlet Witch
31. Silver Samurai

I hope this is helpful. It looks like overkill on the Sentinel front, but i wouldn't expect everyone to check in before deadline anyway.

[Mimic]

I'm not advocating this, but the above fact could be rectified, could it not?

It could, but you don't have the power. :popcorn:

[Scarlet Witch]

Maybe I'm confused here. Although a traitor would be able to influence a whole team with words, maybe I made a huge assumption that a traitor would not have a power to affect an entire team. If that's the case, then certainly all of the Prelates should not join.

Regardless, I think it would be useful if most of the Prelates joined and perhaps the Silver Surfer or the as-yet-unnamed Fifth Prelate stayed off. However, Jean's powers would be essential to this team.

Are you assuming all the Prelates must side with Apocalypse? This is not the case.

[ProfessorX]

That being said, beware your tone of voice. I am the Second Prelate of Apocalypse and you are but a minion.

oh wow...playground bullying. are you going to take your ball and go home because i hurt your widdle feelings? :D

I meant no disrespect Calvin. I have known you since you were but a small child, I will not bow and scrape my head to the floor for you, or indeed for anyone. Indeed, insinuating that I should do so is naught but a sign of weakness. You should know better.

I will question anyone, even Apocalypse himself, because it is in the free-flow of thoughts, information, and yes, opinions, that we have the greatest chance to defeat the rebels, and Galactacus.

If that angers you, well then I'm sorry that your ego has consumed you. But I will not apologize, and I will not stop questioning. And if that means you will send others after me to do your dirty-work, well then so be it.

[Scarlet Witch]

But I fail to follow the logic. How will a Prelate-only team aid in staving off Galactus?

And this. The Vision makes a good point. I am not going to allow this to happen without good reason.

[Magneto]

Android, did you give any consideration to my point that Sentinels are created to target my kind in the development of your list?

[SilverSurfer]

In response to Silver Surfer's request. These suggestions are based on: my impression of each member's power level, stated goals/abilities, and two that I left off for obvious reasons.

Galactus, Sentinels, Finding Traitors

1. Nightcrawler
2. Emma Frost
3. Ghost Rider
4. Hulk
5. Apocalypse (head honcho)
6. Silver Surfer (1st Prelate)
7. Colossus
8. Jean Grey (5th Prelate, promoted to 4th Prelate to start Day 2)
9. Professor X
10. Mr. Fantastic
11. Iron Fist
12. Mimic (2nd Prelate)
13. Henry Pym
14. Vision
15. Kang the Conqueror (3rd Prelate)
16. Beast
17. Dr. Doom
18. Cable
19. Firebird
21. Quicksilver
22. Aardwolf
23. Nick Fury
25. Spider Man
26. Magneto
27. Punisher
28. Human Torch
29. Gambit
30. Scarlet Witch
31. Silver Samurai

I hope this is helpful. It looks like overkill on the Sentinel front, but i wouldn't expect everyone to check in before deadline anyway.


Thank you. Of these, Iron Fist and Human Torch are damaged if I recall and should not be on missions today as a result.

I will suggest the following rosters:

Galactus: Silver Surfer, Hulk, Mr. Fantastic, Henry Pym and Magneto. Mimic and Kang can proceed with their Galactus-stopping endeavors for the day.

Sentinels: Firebird, Vision, Colossus, Beast, Cable, Aardwolf, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.

Thoughts?

[Scarlet Witch]

I don't think I would be best suited for any mission.

[Magneto]

6.) Opportunity for team sabotage at any time. Can be completed in one of two ways, will be known publicly either way:
- siphon energy from team during night cycle, saboteur gains 1/2 of energy (rounding down) from every teammate in addition to their own energy
- can 100% negate actions of all teammates on a Mission Action or Galactus Action

A team of Prelates would be at risk of having their actions negated or half their energy stolen by a saboteur. I agree with those that argue that a team as proposed by the Second Prelate is unwise.

[Mimic]

oh wow...playground bullying. are you going to take your ball and go home because i hurt your widdle feelings? :D

I meant no disrespect Calvin. I have known you since you were but a small child, I will not bow and scrape my head to the floor for you, or indeed for anyone. Indeed, insinuating that I should do so is naught but a sign of weakness. You should know better.

I will question anyone, even Apocalypse himself, because it is in the free-flow of thoughts, information, and yes, opinions, that we have the greatest chance to defeat the rebels, and Galactacus.

If that angers you, well then I'm sorry that your ego has consumed you. But I will not apologize, and I will not stop questioning. And if that means you will send others after me to do your dirty-work, well then so be it.

Okay, that was in-character. I didn't think a Prelate would let a guy who needs Rogaine talk to him that way. :)

Also, although you say you don't bow and scrape your head to the floor, your hairline begs to differ. :D

With that folks, I'm out for a bit. I actually need to get some work done today.

[Magneto]

Mimic, before you depart, I have a question, which will follow.

[ProfessorX]

Thank you Eric. Your wisdom in support of mine means a great deal to me old friend.

[ProfessorX]

eeegh! Alan outed himself.

quick alanT...delete and repost!

[Mimic]

Okey dokey. Shoot.


Ummmmm...not me.

[ProfessorX]

Okay, that was in-character. I didn't think a Prelate would let a guy who needs Rogaine talk to him that way. :)

Also, although you say you don't bow and scrape your head to the floor, your hairline begs to differ. :D

With that folks, I'm out for a bit. I actually need to get some work done today.

no worries, i assumed it was IC...just being silly. no hurt feelings

[SilverSurfer]

I don't think I would be best suited for any mission.

Because?

[Magneto]

I have spoken privately with the powers that be who indicate that you may, indeed, have a unique power with which I can help. The same power will not tell me anything further than that until you tell me more.

[Alan T]

eeegh! Alan outed himself.

quick alanT...delete and repost!


Oh well, was bound to happen. Too much work causing me issues with the multiple ID thing.

[Mimic]

I have spoken privately with the powers that be who indicate that you may, indeed, have a unique power with which I can help. The same power will not tell me anything further than that until you tell me more.

Understood.

I have about ten minutes, so we may be able to get this done now

In that respect (Sorry Kang), I will leave the Prelates and offer my services to the Brotherhood. If Jean will not come to me, I will come to her.

LEAVE PRELATES OF APOCALYPSE

[ProfessorX]

Oh well, was bound to happen. Too much work causing me issues with the multiple ID thing.

lol - i've just ceased checking GD at work for the duration of the game pretty much, and reset the cookie to remember this.

perhaps one of the mods will delete it and repost it to un-out you so that it's not massively-known

[ProfessorX]

INVITE MIMIC BROTHERHOOD OF MUTANTS

We would be pleased to have you on our team Calvin.

[Scarlet Witch]

Because?

Because I can help a mission more by NOT going.

[Magneto]

INVITE MIMIC TO THE BROTHERHOOD OF MUTANTS

[Mimic]

lol - i've just ceased checking GD at work for the duration of the game pretty much, and reset the cookie to remember this.
ditto, for the most part. I have read in the GD, but not posted under Mimic though.

[Mimic]

JOIN THE BROTHERHOOD OF MUTANTS

[KangtheConqueror]

A team of Prelates would be at risk of having their actions negated or half their energy stolen by a saboteur. I agree with those that argue that a team as proposed by the Second Prelate is unwise.

Agreed MagnetMan. I was in it if the formation of the team itself aided in his project, but if it's just for mere looks I don't find it in my our best interest. Especially since my powers have little help to offer

Leave Prelate Team

Re-Join Strike team

[Scarlet Witch]

(ooc) I think someone suggested using two different browsers. That's worked wonders for me -- one is in GD, and the other one is here, so there's no call for my real ID to pop over here. (/ooc)

[HumanTorch]

It could, but you don't have the power. :popcorn:

Not me personally...

Voice of the Madri - the masses of players can stage a revolt against a prelate by popular vote. Apoc and the 1st Prelate are immune to this, but all others are potentially vulnerable to this. All prelates below the disgraced prelate move up a rank and a new prelate is inserted immediately in the 5th Prelate role. This is separate from an attack - just a straight "vote" option that is available. The Prelates (and Apocalypse) are not part of this vote. Can only be exercised once per three days.

[Nightcrawler]

As Cable has already committed to the mission, so will I, perhaps we can aid each other.

COMMIT SENTINEL MISSION

[Mr.Fantastic]

Thank you. Of these, Iron Fist and Human Torch are damaged if I recall and should not be on missions today as a result.

I will suggest the following rosters:

Galactus: Silver Surfer, Hulk, Mr. Fantastic, Henry Pym and Magneto. Mimic and Kang can proceed with their Galactus-stopping endeavors for the day.

Sentinels: Firebird, Vision, Colossus, Beast, Cable, Aardwolf, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.

Thoughts?

If that is your will, I can go on the mission as requested. Just confirm and I will place my order in. However I think Henry Pym at least duplicates some of my intellect and could free me up to work on an invention that will require some time to finish up. (ooc: I've been in discussions with our moderators via pm trying to work out details of some invention possibilities but the bottom line is that none will be finished if I go on missions every day)

[DrDoom]

I hear much talk of teams, and little talk of how we will root out the traitors. Teams it seems could be useful, but are they useful enough to dominate our time? The mission list posted seems to make sense, so unless people can suggest that they are better used elsewhere, let us follow it.

In the meantime, who shall we target with our attacks today? Who is the most suspect amongst us. Silver Samurai has drawn Doom's attention with his last minute attack on the Human Torch yesterday, and his flippant comments about allegiance to Apocalypse. Prelate Mimic, your vague plans to destroy Galactus are worrisome, but Doom hopes you are merely keeping your cards hidden to avoid being sabotaged.

Who else do people suspect? Or are most waiting for the results of these missions?

[Mimic]

One last quick message to mull over while I'm gone: the Prelates can order guard actions as well as other things. I think if we coordinated our order actions it would aid in rooting out traitors.

[KangtheConqueror]

I thought about that Mimic, but using the Guard order means no use of other stuff, and you and I at least are set in what we're working on

[GhostRider]

I'm putting this in so I don't forget. Placeholder barring an explanation for the big attack on Zippo:

standard attack Collosus

[KangtheConqueror]

To make sure I get this in. Not meant for a death-blow, but a wake up since I"m not a fan of those sliding by

Standard Attack Gambit

[Beast]

As unfortunate as it is, chronographic restraints are severly limiting my contributions to our cause today.

Since it has been suggested, and I find it to be a logical conclusion, I will
Commit Sentinel Mission

[hoopsguy]

I thought about that Mimic, but using the Guard order means no use of other stuff, and you and I at least are set in what we're working on

Clarification - the use of "Guard" does not prevent the Prelate from using a Special action. It prevents the target of the order.

Kang orders Nightcrawler to stand guard on Kang for Night 2. Kang can still do special actions. Nightcrawler is no longer eligible for Mission, Galactus, or use of Special Attack/Ability for that day.

[KangtheConqueror]

Ah, that changes things.

[SilverSurfer]

If that is your will, I can go on the mission as requested. Just confirm and I will place my order in. However I think Henry Pym at least duplicates some of my intellect and could free me up to work on an invention that will require some time to finish up. (ooc: I've been in discussions with our moderators via pm trying to work out details of some invention possibilities but the bottom line is that none will be finished if I go on missions every day)

I would encourage you to work on your invention. Who feels they have the abilities to help in a Galactus mission today besides the people I have suggested?

[Firebird]

I am going to :

Go on the Sentinel Mission

Where I think my talents are best placed.

[Magneto]

I'm putting this in so I don't forget. Placeholder barring an explanation for the big attack on Zippo:

standard attack Collosus

Please note that the only evidence we have the Colossus delivered the heavier blow and not Silver Samurai is Silver Samurai saying it was not him.

However, I, too, await word from Colossus as to what happened.

[GhostRider]

Please note that the only evidence we have the Colossus delivered the heavier blow and not Silver Samurai is Silver Samurai saying it was not him.

However, I, too, await word from Colossus as to what happened.

That's true Magneto, I had forgotten. At the same token, not that I feel that our puppetmasters would do this to us, I was present during another battle when certain actions caused the deadline to be hours earlier and those that hadn't voted were punished. I have slight concerns about that which is why I at least wanted a placeholder.

[Firebird]

ooc I will be in and out today packign and preparing for my trip. AS such, I will not be immeidately available, but I will be checking in, no question.

[Quicksilver]

Go on the Sentinel Mission

[hoopsguy]

Wow - for people who are still trying to learn about their comic book characters, I just found a really interesting site. Tons of information on the couple of characters (pretty obscure ones) that I looked up.

Marvel Universe: The Appendix! -- Profiles (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/appchar.htm)

Stuff like this might be helpful in researching the abilities of characters for your own "make your own power" stunts ...

[KangtheConqueror]

Crickey that's a lot of information.

[JeanGrey]

My attack is likely to go, again, to those who have contributed less. I do have suspicions among the more vocal and active players, but in a game this large, would like to make flying beneath notice something people don't do, as it could be quite easy to do. I will also be making my attack with-in the next few hours, as after that meditation time is required.

[HenryPym]

Just in case the Silver Surfer and Vision missed it, I have already committed to the Sentinels mission. I may be of some use in Galactus missions in the future, but if there is an active Sentinel(s) in this mission, I feel my talents are better suited here.

[EmmaFrost]

In response to Silver Surfer's request. These suggestions are based on: my impression of each member's power level, stated goals/abilities, and two that I left off for obvious reasons.

Galactus, Sentinels, Finding Traitors

1. Nightcrawler
2. Emma Frost
3. Ghost Rider
4. Hulk
5. Apocalypse (head honcho)
6. Silver Surfer (1st Prelate)
7. Colossus
8. Jean Grey (5th Prelate, promoted to 4th Prelate to start Day 2)
9. Professor X
10. Mr. Fantastic
11. Iron Fist
12. Mimic (2nd Prelate)
13. Henry Pym
14. Vision
15. Kang the Conqueror (3rd Prelate)
16. Beast
17. Dr. Doom
18. Cable
19. Firebird
21. Quicksilver
22. Aardwolf
23. Nick Fury
25. Spider Man
26. Magneto
27. Punisher
28. Human Torch
29. Gambit
30. Scarlet Witch
31. Silver Samurai

I hope this is helpful. It looks like overkill on the Sentinel front, but i wouldn't expect everyone to check in before deadline anyway.


I strongly urge that Magneto be used on the Sentinel mission. Not to use someone who, uniquely, has both the powers and experience to battle the robots seems a massive waste of resources. Especially if you believe, as I do, that the Sentinel mission should take precedence over the Galactus mission. I'm not even sure that we have to send a Galactus mission every day.

I am also concerned that Henry Pym, Mr Fantastic and Beast are all being denied the opportunity to assist where, I suspect, they are best suited - in the laboratory. Having said that I think, at this stage, we need to accept that the individual knows best where their talents are suited. If Scarlet Witch deems that she will be of little use on the mission then we have little option but to accept her word for it. So if the others feel they are best suited to mission-work then that is fine, I just don't feel pressure should be applied to them to do so.

[JeanGrey]

I agree that Magneto would be a big help on the Sentinel mission.

[Nightcrawler]

The Brethren will line 'em up, Magneto can knock 'em down

[Scarlet Witch]

We only have two more hours to determine who goes on what mission, right?

[hoopsguy]

2 1/2 hours until both Mission and Galactus are processed.

[Nightcrawler]

Two and a half by my calculations

[Firebird]

Yep, all of our team is now on this mission.

[Vision]

If Jean needs me to spell it out for her, I can. I would prefer not to, but I will in the interests of Apocalypse. That being said, beware your tone of voice. I am the Second Prelate of Apocalypse and you are but a minion.

Let us not fall into the trap of placing an abundance of trust in the infallibility of the Prelates. Moon Knight and Doctor Strange, though shown to be loyal, also have demonstrated by their deaths that being of a high rank does not indicate one's immunity to lapses.

[Mimic]

Let us not fall into the trap of placing an abundance of trust in the infallibility of the Prelates. Moon Knight and Doctor Strange, though shown to be loyal, also have demonstrated by their deaths that being of a high rank does not indicate one's immunity to lapses.
This is a good point.

[ProfessorX]

hmmm

[Vision]

Android, did you give any consideration to my point that Sentinels are created to target my kind in the development of your list?

Sorry for the delay in replying, Erik, I have only just returned from a task of great [ ooc ] import.

No, I only took into account the powers and skills that I perceive in us all, with an eye toward balancing the priorities of the three separate tasks.

[hoopsguy]

Here is the current attack report:

Post #775: Silver Samurai attacks Colossus
Post #800: Aardwolf attacks SilverSamurai
Post #915: GhostRider attacks Colossus
Post #916: Kang attacks Gambit

Not attacked: everyone else

[Vision]

Because I can help a mission more by NOT going.

This is a very interesting assertion, Wanda. I had wondered why you seemed reluctant to join the mutant mission yesterday. With your probabiity-altering powers, I'd have thought you well suited for virtually any mission, but I trust your judgement in this matter.

[Magneto]

No one has commited to a mission to combat Galactus today, for whatever reason. I am rested enough to undertake a mission today, so I will do so.

JOIN SENTINEL MISSION

[KangtheConqueror]

Let us not fall into the trap of placing an abundance of trust in the infallibility of the Prelates. Moon Knight and Doctor Strange, though shown to be loyal, also have demonstrated by their deaths that being of a high rank does not indicate one's immunity to lapses.

I'm a prelate and I agree with this.

[HumanTorch]

I hear much talk of teams, and little talk of how we will root out the traitors. Teams it seems could be useful, but are they useful enough to dominate our time? The mission list posted seems to make sense, so unless people can suggest that they are better used elsewhere, let us follow it.

In the meantime, who shall we target with our attacks today? Who is the most suspect amongst us. Silver Samurai has drawn Doom's attention with his last minute attack on the Human Torch yesterday, and his flippant comments about allegiance to Apocalypse. Prelate Mimic, your vague plans to destroy Galactus are worrisome, but Doom hopes you are merely keeping your cards hidden to avoid being sabotaged.

Who else do people suspect? Or are most waiting for the results of these missions?

I think rooting out the rebels will take a combination of missions and standard attacks. I don't really want to see a mission fail, but sabotage would help us narrow the search some. As far as the standard attacks go, I'm looking at Silver Samurai, Collosus, and Mimic...not necessarily in that order. I'm looking at Mimic mostly for throwing too much trust at Magneto and the other two for a possibly overly-strong first day attack. The fact that is was against me plays some small part. According to SS, Collosus attacked huge. If that is true, I'm looking at him. If SS is trying to deflect blame that should be his, he becomes my prime target.

[ProfessorX]

Johnny - I think Calvin just had a thought and overplayed his hand. Or at least I'm willing to believe that for the time being. I wouldn't look overly hard at him for that, certainly not harder than at others...

[JeanGrey]

There has been a lack of focus on Galactus, including by myself. I shall order someone, as we get closer to deadline, to help with that mission if needed. Thoughts would be welcomed.

[JeanGrey]

Let us not fall into the trap of placing an abundance of trust in the infallibility of the Prelates. Moon Knight and Doctor Strange, though shown to be loyal, also have demonstrated by their deaths that being of a high rank does not indicate one's immunity to lapses.
I agree with what you are saying. It's why I was reluctant, very reluctant, to join the Prelate Super team. However, do you actually trust anyone or even think well of somebody? It seems everything you say is tearing down another.

[EmmaFrost]

No one has commited to a mission to combat Galactus today, for whatever reason. I am rested enough to undertake a mission today, so I will do so.


I believe Hulk has. I don't think we want to send any one person, no matter how formidable, to combat Galactus. I would be of even less use on the Galactus mission than on the Sentinel one though.

[HumanTorch]

Johnny - I think Calvin just had a thought and overplayed his hand. Or at least I'm willing to believe that for the time being. I wouldn't look overly hard at him for that, certainly not harder than at others...

I'm willing to discuss this possibility and look elsewhere. I just get nervous when too much trust is given without sufficient challenge. There were a number of people that did good things on missions that didn't get sabotaged and singling out Magneto seemed odd.

[HumanTorch]

This is probably foolish, but...

Join Galactus Mission

[SilverSurfer]

GO ON GALACTUS MISSION

Who joins me then?

[DrDoom]

If it is true that no one has committed to a Galactus mission, why not? Are those who were nominated for it simply absent so far, or do they have other priorities? Can we get a listing of who has committed to missions so far?

[DrDoom]

It seems Doom has spoken too quickly. Very well.

[Mimic]

I hear much talk of teams, and little talk of how we will root out the traitors. Teams it seems could be useful, but are they useful enough to dominate our time? The mission list posted seems to make sense, so unless people can suggest that they are better used elsewhere, let us follow it.

In the meantime, who shall we target with our attacks today? Who is the most suspect amongst us. Silver Samurai has drawn Doom's attention with his last minute attack on the Human Torch yesterday, and his flippant comments about allegiance to Apocalypse. Prelate Mimic, your vague plans to destroy Galactus are worrisome, but Doom hopes you are merely keeping your cards hidden to avoid being sabotaged.

Who else do people suspect? Or are most waiting for the results of these missions?

I am keeping my cards hidden at this point. I also believe you could do well joining the Brotherhood of Mutants as we could use your sorcery as well as intellect. What say you?

[Scarlet Witch]

No one has commited to a mission to combat Galactus today, for whatever reason. I am rested enough to undertake a mission today, so I will do so.

JOIN SENTINEL MISSION

Maybe others have thoughts similar to mine -- let the rebels deal with it? Who wins if Galactus eats the planet? Both groups are supposed to avoid it, but who is it worse for if it happens anyway?

I can help either mission (despite not going on it), but I'll likely do what I can to assist those going on the Sentinel Mission. And the more people (besides me) that go on it, the more I can do to help.

[hoopsguy]

Current counts for Mission + Galactus:

Mission:
SilverSamurai on Mission (Post #731)
Cable on Mission (Post #785)
Vision on Mission (Post #792)
HenryPym on Mission (Post #795)
Nightcrawler on Mission (Post #910)
Beast on Mission (Post #917)
Firebird on Mission (Post #921)
Quicksilver on Mission (Post #925)
Magneto on Mission (Post #943)

Galactus:
Hulk on Galactus (Post #937)
HumanTorch on Galactus (Post #951)
SilverSurfer on Galactus (Post #952)

[Scarlet Witch]

Win Conditions:
Minority ("Good"): Easy way: Overthrow the tyrant (ie - kill Apocalypse), plus assume majority of seats on ruling council. Hard way: kill Apocalypse and every one of his followers. Either one will do. Oh, and don't let Galactus eat the planet.
Majority ("Evil"): Squash the rebellion - eliminate all good/minority. Don't let Galactus eat the planet.
Others (what? there are others?): ???

Seems like both Apocalypse and the Rebels lose if Galactus eats the planet. Maybe one or more of the "others" win if that happens.

Still, I'd like to see more of us go on the Sentinel Mission today, then if we feel it's needed, we can focus on Galactus tomorrow. I don't mind putting some trust in Mimic that he can take care of him -- I can't see lying about a claim like that. I'll throw my support behind him to take care of Galactus tomorrow, but would like to focus on the Sentinel Mission today.

[EmmaFrost]

Maybe others have thoughts similar to mine -- let the rebels deal with it? Who wins if Galactus eats the planet? Both groups are supposed to avoid it, but who is it worse for if it happens anyway?

I can help either mission (despite not going on it), but I'll likely do what I can to assist those going on the Sentinel Mission. And the more people (besides me) that go on it, the more I can do to help.

This is my line of thought exactly. If raw numbers assist you then I shall be happy to join the fight against the Sentinels - presuming that there will be rebel interference my powers may be of use. I shall consider my options.

[EmmaFrost]

If there are 9 people on the mission then maybe that's all that is required, although there could be a couple of traitors in the midst who could be working to undermine the task.

[Aardwolf]

go on Sentinal Mission

[Colossus]

...

So I must ask Colossus, if these attacks are mere training exercises for us to maintain our edge, why was his attack on the Human Torch so strong and vicious?

I offered up but one point of energy--and the Human Torch took 7 points of damage? That is what you call a Standard Attack, oh armored one?

I apologize for my lateness in arriving. I put but a single ep into my blow upon the Torch. I'm sorry if Johnny is so...fragile.... In the future I will try and weigh in the tenderness of each person before I post whom I am attacking.

*OOC : there is a LARGE multiplier on my attacks, fair warning.*



GO ON GALACTUS MISSION

Who joins me then?


I will put my strength with that of the mighty Hulk to slow down the World Eater's progress.

JOIN GALACTUS MISSION

[Barkeep49]

I think 9 should be enough, assuming some lend more than 1 energy. I worry now about the Galacticus mission, and providing ample energy for defense there.

[Barkeep49]

go on Sentinal Mission
I see no reason to think you would be of help with that mission. Perhaps you could help with Galactacus instead?

[Magneto]

First Prelate:

I am at your disposal for whichever mission you so choose. I am currently dedicated to the Senitnel mission.

[Scarlet Witch]

This is a very interesting assertion, Wanda. I had wondered why you seemed reluctant to join the mutant mission yesterday. With your probabiity-altering powers, I'd have thought you well suited for virtually any mission, but I trust your judgement in this matter.

It's taking me a while to fully understand my powers -- my desire to live a normal life feels like it is being taken from me, and while I'm trying to stay uninterested in all these goings-on, it's becoming more apparent that I'll be needed in this matter somehow. If I had known you wanted me to go on the mission in time yesterday, I probably would have gone. But in retrospect, I'm coming to realize that I can do more to help the missions without actually going on them.

[Colossus]

Nicely blown there BK.

[Scarlet Witch]

If there are 9 people on the mission then maybe that's all that is required, although there could be a couple of traitors in the midst who could be working to undermine the task.

Keep in mind, though, that it's probably energy that's important, not people.

[EmmaFrost]

I apologize for my lateness in arriving. I put but a single ep into my blow upon the Torch. I'm sorry if Johnny is so...fragile.... In the future I will try and weigh in the tenderness of each person before I post whom I am attacking.

*OOC : there is a LARGE multiplier on my attacks, fair warning.*


Do you have any insight to offer into why you suffered damage?

[Barkeep49]

Nicely blown there BK.
Indeed. It's what I get for having multiple browsers open to FOFC at once, while at work, and not feeling well. Now that my identity is blown, I can safely reveal that with Yom Kippur starting tonight my involvement will be erratic.

[EmmaFrost]

I see no reason to think you would be of help with that mission. Perhaps you could help with Galactacus instead?

I see even less reason to see that he could help against Galactus.

[Gambit.]

I got'd to be

JOININ THE SENTINEL MISSION

today. I be helpin anyway I can.

[KangtheConqueror]

Keep in mind, though, that it's probably energy that's important, not people.

Agreed, I put 4 energy into my Galactus mission yesterday and that seemed to make a difference (combined with my being reasonably well-suited for it)

[DrDoom]

I am keeping my cards hidden at this point. I also believe you could do well joining the Brotherhood of Mutants as we could use your sorcery as well as intellect. What say you?

I can assist in any task whether I join a team or not. I must say, Doom is wary of these teams as it seems quite a bit of emphasis is being placed on them, quite a bit of shuffling and politicking. I worry what is going on behind the scenes to create so much interest in this. It seems to matter who is on what team, as long as some people team up and gain bonuses to their success.

I will aid on whatever mission tomorrow, and depending which mission I join I may join a team to multiply my effect. But for now Doom watches.

[GhostRider]

I really and truly appreciate BK and Alan T much, much more than I ever did before.

[Colossus]

Do you have any insight to offer into why you suffered damage?



As I was not informed of being injured on the mission, I must assume that the little hot-head scorched me a bit when I struck him. His name IS Human "Torch" and I AM made of Metal.

Again I apologize. I am irritated at the suspicion put upon me for, well, being me.

[Gambit.]

I misspoke and meant:

UNJOIN SENTINEL MISSION
JOIN GALACTUS MISSION

[Vision]

I am also concerned that Henry Pym, Mr Fantastic and Beast are all being denied the opportunity to assist where, I suspect, they are best suited - in the laboratory. Having said that I think, at this stage, we need to accept that the individual knows best where their talents are suited. If Scarlet Witch deems that she will be of little use on the mission then we have little option but to accept her word for it. So if the others feel they are best suited to mission-work then that is fine, I just don't feel pressure should be applied to them to do so.

Emma, I share this view, that these individuals must have time to so their research. I believe it was Dr. Pym who mentioned the possibility of he and Reed alternating days on the Galactus mission, so that they could each have time to do just that. This is why I designated both for that task.

However, I do definitely feel that each of us should do what he or she feels is best for the team as a whole at this time. Hence I fully support Henry Pym's decision to attend to the Sentinels today.

[Mimic]

I can assist in any task whether I join a team or not. I must say, Doom is wary of these teams as it seems quite a bit of emphasis is being placed on them, quite a bit of shuffling and politicking. I worry what is going on behind the scenes to create so much interest in this. It seems to matter who is on what team, as long as some people team up and gain bonuses to their success.

I will aid on whatever mission tomorrow, and depending which mission I join I may join a team to multiply my effect. But for now Doom watches.

There are certain benefits which may not be apparent to you at this point. I ask that you accept the offer until after the missions are over to see how it goes.

INVITE DR. DOOM TO THE BROTHERHOOD OF MUTANTS

[Scarlet Witch]

Maybe others have thoughts similar to mine -- let the rebels deal with it? Who wins if Galactus eats the planet? Both groups are supposed to avoid it, but who is it worse for if it happens anyway?

I can help either mission (despite not going on it), but I'll likely do what I can to assist those going on the Sentinel Mission. And the more people (besides me) that go on it, the more I can do to help.

Agreed, I put 4 energy into my Galactus mission yesterday and that seemed to make a difference (combined with my being reasonably well-suited for it)

Good to know. Also, the post I've quoted has a mistake -- I should have said the more energy used, the more I can do to help, instead of saying the more people that go, the more I can do.

[JeanGrey]

For the record, I do NOT support Dr. Doom in brotherhood of mutants at this time. I worry about our size.

[EmmaFrost]

Again time is against me, I am forced to make a choice.

Attack Silver Samurai

He was, perhaps, too eager to associate with my initial plan of mutual attacks without any discussion and did not provide any reason for attacking the Human Torch. He was also quick to highlight Colossus as a viable target of attack today.

[Scarlet Witch]

I really and truly appreciate BK and Alan T much, much more than I ever did before.

You guys should join the "disclosed superheroes" team! :p

Also, FWIW, I wasn't able to figure out any identities from the posts -- it took someone else saying it outright for me to get it. Do you guys just figure it out from knowing the characters or am I just a moran?

[Gambit.]

[ooc] I will be unavailable until late tonight so... [ooc]

STANDARD ATTACK AGAINST HULK

The big green man remind me of da alligators down in da bayou...

[ProfessorX]

I still can't figure out who BK is *shrug*

[Vision]

I agree with what you are saying. It's why I was reluctant, very reluctant, to join the Prelate Super team. However, do you actually trust anyone or even think well of somebody? It seems everything you say is tearing down another.

I have failed to communicate successfully if this is the impression I'm engendering.

I have, by turns, looked upon Magneto, Emma Frost, Silver Surfer, Professor X, Mr. Fantastic, Kang, and the Scarlet Witch as potentially moving up the trust scale, ever so slightly.

On the other hand, of those, I have taken exception to certain things that Emma, the Professor, and Kang have said.

The situation as I see it at this time is that it is easier to fall out of favor than to gain favor in these early stages.

My "suspect" list is much longer, but I'll hold it close to the vest for now, because there is a paucity of evidence either way.

Jean, my aim in most of these dialogues is to interject other viewpoints, to help us (in particular myself) try to examine the motivation of each speaker.

[DrDoom]

Your comment intrigues me Prelate Mimic, but I do wonder why the secrecy. You have no way to knowing which of us is a traitor, so how does it benefit to keep the benefits of teamwork a secret? Doom knows well the marks of a nefarious plan and I fear one here. I also would not join knowing that Ms. Grey does not wish it.

Doom is open to joining if I can be convinced. Any team would benefit from the might of Doom.

[DrDoom]

I am suspect of this Gambit's sudden joining of a mission, changing missions and then attacking the Hulk randomly, particularly after having performed so poorly against Galactus yesterday.

[GhostRider]

Dr. Doom, I know you've got plenty of offers, I'm sure that S.H.I.E.L.D. could benefit from your talents greatly. It's Nick Fury, Spidey, and myself as of now. As I said before, I would like to grow the group so we can get both size benefits and longevity benefits.

[Cable]

I still can't figure out who BK is *shrug*

I caught that one, but I missed Alan's. :D

[Colossus]

*OOC i swear to god if I didn't know hoops was running this game I'd label Von Doom as hoopsguy. Talk about nailing a playing style....*

[ProfessorX]

i'm sure it'll be forgotten by most everyone anyways

[hoopsguy]

*OOC i swear to god if I didn't know hoops was running this game I'd label Von Doom as hoopsguy. Talk about nailing a playing style....*

I kinda thought about inserting a character and playing along :) But, in the end, I did not disrespect the game like that.

[Vision]

I see no reason to think you would be of help with that mission. Perhaps you could help with Galactacus instead?

Addressing the esteemed visitor Barkeep49, I disagree, and would imagine Aardwolf to be much more suited to Earth-based operations.

[Magneto]

I kinda thought about inserting a character and playing along :) But, in the end, I did not disrespect the game like that.

You were right earlier. Playing Uatu was the way for you to go.

[SilverSurfer]

First Prelate:

I am at your disposal for whichever mission you so choose. I am currently dedicated to the Senitnel mission.

I leave this to your judgement. Did you refer earlier to being more useful not going on a mission or is that someone else?

[SilverSurfer]

I still can't figure out who BK is *shrug*

(ooc) me either (/ooc)

[DrDoom]

Doom has researched this team concept more. The risks are great joining a team when we have traitors in our midst. Doom must guard his energy carefully. Yes, rewards are there, but the possibility of having a mission sabotaged is there too. An independent actor can be assured of not having his energy squandered by sabotage.

What is the current team line ups?

[Mimic]

Ah good. Lord Apocalypse has returned. I look forward to seeing his wisdom and selection of the next Prelate.

[Vision]

I believe we have only one hour until the deadline to participate in a mission. It looks as if we should have plenty of firepower dedicated to the Sentinel mission. Galactus awaits, however, so I sincerely hope that those few going toward him are dedicating enough energy to the task.

And another note: those not going on either mission could reasonably be expected to be making some sort of progress with... special... actions. While it would perhaps be a bit much to suspect these individuals outright, I for one would like to know on what they are spending their own energy and time.