WW LXXXIII Marvel Universe - Game Over! Rebel victory!

[KangtheConqueror]

Good points. I agree with Richards as far as the sample size. I hadn't examined the night kills. I don't think that they're flavor text at all.


It could be the Shadow King, but I"m not sure if that's just coincidence with Nightcrawler. Could it have been that the player that is the Shadow King had to control Nightcrawler? Or maybe the Shadow King read the history and knew Nightcrawler was his weakness?



The problem with looking at the people (myself included) who committed attacks on Spidey are below:

The ones who did were (in order): Prof X, Mimic, IronFist, Magneto, Kang.

1. Prof X, Magneto and I all used base attacks. Hardly something that would kill the wall crawler.
2. In the sliding scale of innocence, I'd look at the ones who attacked later than earlier.

I really don't see how you could accuse Prof X of trying to kill Spidey when he did a base attack and he was the first attack.

It's worth noting that I really didn't want to attack Spiderman, but Doom didn't want me to attack Colossus so there you have it.

[KangtheConqueror]

I'm looking hard at the Nightcrawler attackers. It seemed patently obvious to me that he was being manipulated in some way.

[KangtheConqueror]

Oh, and fucking OUCH.

[EmmaFrost]

Forgive me. I did not realise you were a member of a team. If your numbers include a fellow prelate in the Vision then I would be happy to move to your team instead. My powers are partially team-based, so they should prove useful to my fellow members. As stated I fear my own team may be infected with treachery. I enterrtain a fair degree of trust for the Vision and yourself.

[EmmaFrost]

I'm looking hard at the Nightcrawler attackers. It seemed patently obvious to me that he was being manipulated in some way.

If my impressions on his death were correct he was probably soon to become the agent of a power opposed to Doom. While he was still a loyalist in name, I believe his death was a necessary evil.

[JeanGrey]

If the brotherhood of mutants would like to have me back, I would certainly rejoin, especially with Charles' death and the loss of private communication.

[JeanGrey]

I personally grieve for the loss of my mentor and someone who had never lost faith in me.

I feel, contrary to some, that Mimic was the intended kill. By going after Mimic, there is the possibility of killing both Charles, who stated he was going to be a weak guard, and Mimic. If they went after Charles, then there is the one death only.


They knew that Charles would not make a good guard and tried to exploit that, in other words. So, in my mind, the death of Charles reflects well upon Mimic .

[KangtheConqueror]

I thought Prof X was guarding Magneto?

[GhostRider]

Does anyone have anything approaching an accurate record of the teams currently in existance? I have completely lost track of who belongs to my own team, let alone any other. But fear that there are one or two rebel elements concealed in our numbers.

Feel free to colour code it for my entertainment. I enjoy colour coding. It is pleasing to my eyes.

S.H.I.E.L.D.
Ghost Rider
Nick Fury
The Punisher
Spiderman

[KangtheConqueror]

If my impressions on his death were correct he was probably soon to become the agent of a power opposed to Doom. While he was still a loyalist in name, I believe his death was a necessary evil.

While I think there is a chance you are correct, that's still a large supposition to make and given you attacked Nightcrawler as well, a wholly unsurprising one.

[Punisher]

Interesting turn of events...nothing to me, but with X-man gone instead of, say Mimic, I'd say that's interesting.

[GhostRider]

I personally grieve for the loss of my mentor and someone who had never lost faith in me.

I feel, contrary to some, that Mimic was the intended kill. By going after Mimic, there is the possibility of killing both Charles, who stated he was going to be a weak guard, and Mimic. If they went after Charles, then there is the one death only.


They knew that Charles would not make a good guard and tried to exploit that, in other words. So, in my mind, the death of Charles reflects well upon Mimic .

I think it is Magneto that he guarded but I'm glad there is someone else that is not willing to write it off so easily as they just went after the Professor. I really think the smart play would've been to try and overpower both.

[Scarlet Witch]

S.H.I.E.L.D.
Ghost Rider
Nick Fury
The Punisher
Spiderman

haha, this is hilarious

[ProfessorX]

Folks, earlier today (Thursday) my wife and I found out about a very sudden and wholly unexpected death in her immediate family. I was able to fire off a very sparse and uninformative PM to hoops and Tyrith, but had no time to explain it here.

I do expect to have some time to participate with the game, it just will be touch and go for a few days perhaps. I take seriously the investment that the community puts into games like this which I enjoy so much, so I will do my best to live up to my own commitment to you.

Just understand (and, really, I know that you do) that this game must take a backseat for a while; my wife and family are hurting and need me more than you.

So, carry on, and I'll be in to contribute as best as I can.

Thanks in advance, because I know how FOFC pulls together in the bad times.


Yours,
The FOFC Poster Currently Known as Vision


PS I'll be watching for the first one of you bastitches that says "Hmm Vision has been quiet, that's suspicious"!!!

dude...seriously? yikes. my condolences. Nobody would think any less of you for bowing out of the game you know.

FOFC Charles Xavier

[Mr.Fantastic]

I feel that Mimic had created a large enough storm around himself that many of the goals of those loyal to Doom would end up being put aside until enough people were happy one way or another with his guilt or innocense to drop the matter entirely. I felt that I would have to include myself in the category of one who would have a huge hurdle of trying to discern what Mimic's true intentions were that prevented me from seeing beyond to other equally pressing matters.

After an evening of reflective thought, I feel as the first prelate that Mimic should be taken off of the table as a target for attacks today, that he should be given the opportunity to prove his worth. Last night I had intended Mimic possibly to be the target of my mighty wrath today, but that has been tempered with better reason now. I think in the end we may find that Mimic was indeed loyal to Doom after all and just did a bad job of putting his foot in his mouth and appearing to be all over the place which started this entire distraction regarding him.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Interesting turn of events...nothing to me, but with X-man gone instead of, say Mimic, I'd say that's interesting.


Not that suprising to me. If mimic was a rebel, he wouldn't have killed himself.. and if he was loyal to Doom, that likely means he has been telling the truth and the rebels need Galactus stopped as well.. So I can see why they would leave him alone.

[ProfessorX]

For the little it is worth Charles is probably the one I suspect the least. However I am willing to wager that he has accumulated a large quantity of power during his 3 days of inaction. I await to see how he deploys this power with interest.

Note - PMs are still going out, and likely will be for a while yet.

Nightfall brings with it a growing sense of uncertainty. Three days into your efforts to quash the rebellion, and you have not yet turned up one rebel. If they had not routed you on the first day in Tunisia it would be hard to believe that the Rebellion even exists.

Except, of course, for the growing body count. On this night, it is Professor X who joins the ranks of the brutally butchered. It appears that his head was forced to separate from the rest of his body. Some might find irony in this. Others feel a sense of loss, even in this dog-eat-dog world. But you will all miss the presence of his great mind in the coming days.

FUCK!!!!

:rant:

[GhostRider]

FUCK!!!!

:rant:

Wow, the language today. You guys have now killed the Hulk's adolescence. What's next, his virginity?

Does anybody else find it ironic that that smiley has more ability to move up and down than Professor X did?

[hoopsguy]

Mr. Sinister calls for all parties to report to the Pentagon for an emergency session.

"A covert team has continued research initially started by Dr. Strange that associated an energy influx with the recent events. We have learned that our forces have been actively opposed by an other-world deity known as Khonshu. Some of you may recognize this as the being often associated with Moon Knight, the first traitor detected in our ranks."

"We've been seeking a way to take the battle to him and believe we now have a way. There is legend of an ancient tomb in Egypt, holding a statue that is the living embodiment of this deity. By finding this statue, and destroying it, our mystics believe that we will force his presence from the Earth. This should be a veritable deathblow to the rebellion."

"Do not even consider failing on this mission."

[GhostRider]

Sorry X, in all seriousness, I view your loss as a pretty big one for us.

I want in on this mission. If you want something done right...

join Egypt mission

[GhostRider]

...unless of course Lord Doom and gloom wants me to do something else.

[Punisher]

I'd go, but I'm running low on energy. I'll still go if I'm needed, just letting everyone know my status.

That said, I may not be readily available for parts of the day.

[Magneto]

Note - PMs are still going out, and likely will be for a while yet.

Nightfall brings with it a growing sense of uncertainty. Three days into your efforts to quash the rebellion, and you have not yet turned up one rebel. If they had not routed you on the first day in Tunisia it would be hard to believe that the Rebellion even exists.

Except, of course, for the growing body count. On this night, it is Professor X who joins the ranks of the brutally butchered. It appears that his head was forced to separate from the rest of his body. Some might find irony in this. Others feel a sense of loss, even in this dog-eat-dog world. But you will all miss the presence of his great mind in the coming days.

I received no indication that Charles died protecting me, so I believe the attack was directed at him.

[Mr.Fantastic]

I personally grieve for the loss of my mentor and someone who had never lost faith in me.

I feel, contrary to some, that Mimic was the intended kill. By going after Mimic, there is the possibility of killing both Charles, who stated he was going to be a weak guard, and Mimic. If they went after Charles, then there is the one death only.


They knew that Charles would not make a good guard and tried to exploit that, in other words. So, in my mind, the death of Charles reflects well upon Mimic .


A few different people have mentioned that the rebels might have been trying for a "multi-kill" last night. I spent a bit of time looking through the rules and I can't find that possibility even mentioned anywhere. I don't see it in the guard section or the night action section. Did I miss it somewhere, or if not, where is this supposition that they can make multiple kills coming from?

[Scarlet Witch]

Mr. Sinister calls for all parties to report to the Pentagon for an emergency session.

"A covert team has continued research initially started by Dr. Strange that associated an energy influx with the recent events. We have learned that our forces have been actively opposed by an other-world deity known as Khonshu. Some of you may recognize this as the being often associated with Moon Knight, the first traitor detected in our ranks."

"We've been seeking a way to take the battle to him and believe we now have a way. There is legend of an ancient tomb in Egypt, holding a statue that is the living embodiment of this deity. By finding this statue, and destroying it, our mystics believe that we will force his presence from the Earth. This should be a veritable deathblow to the rebellion."

"Do not even consider failing on this mission."

This is something I can get behind.

[GhostRider]

I'd go, but I'm running low on energy.

I'm not great energy-wise, so I'm wondering how bad off a lot of us are. This mission and Galactus are going to be tough. Is Galactus a bigger priority or is this one? The don't think about failing line made me think this one but if we're all struggling energy-wise, we may have to really choose carefully.

[Colossus]

Colossus will ensure the destruction of the statue.

JOIN MISSION TO EGYPT

[Punisher]

I don't know how you feel about it, but it seems like we some others to step up. Too many heroes, not enough workers.

[Magneto]

This should be a veritable deathblow to the rebellion."

"Do not even consider failing on this mission."

This said, and given our complete inability as a group to competently identify and eradicate the rebels, they may well choose to sacrifice one of their number sabotaging today's mission. I am sure my Lord Doom is taking this into account when assembling his chosen strike team.

[GhostRider]

We do, I'm wondering if Doom is going to instead organize teams as he sees fit rather than continue on how we've gone along, with lots of us expending energy while others save.

[EmmaFrost]

This said, and given our complete inability as a group to competently identify and eradicate the rebels, they may well choose to sacrifice one of their number sabotaging today's mission.

My thoughts exactly.

Colossus will ensure the destruction of the statue.

JOIN MISSION TO EGYPT

[Magneto]

The don't think about failing line made me think this one but if we're all struggling energy-wise, we may have to really choose carefully.

Rare wisdom from a fiend.

All things being equal, I will need to rest once in the next three days to continue to perform at my expected excellence.

Given Ms. Frost's outstanding chart of individual participation in missions, several "heroes" are storing up threatening amounts of energy. This disturbs me greatly.

[Scarlet Witch]

This said, and given our complete inability as a group to competently identify and eradicate the rebels, they may well choose to sacrifice one of their number sabotaging today's mission. I am sure my Lord Doom is taking this into account when assembling his chosen strike team.

Keep fretting about it, dad. Meanwhile, I'll do something. Since I conserved energy yesterday, I can throw adequate support to this mission, while still assisting Mimic tomorrow against Galactus -- or assisting whoever else fights Galactus tomorrow, if that seems like a better arrangement. I would have been able to do more if I hadn't had to defend myself against the heinous attacks yesterday, but such is life when working with such "Heroes" as these.

[GhostRider]

Ouch, "a fiend". At first, I thought you misspelled 'friend' but that hurts. I may not always have skin on my face, but that doesn't mean I don't have feelings.

[Colossus]

Ouch, "a fiend". At first, I thought you misspelled 'friend' but that hurts. I may not always have skin on my face, but that doesn't mean I don't have feelings.


You're a damned soul that spends eternity collecting other damned souls for delivery to hell.

I think that fits the 'fiend' description pretty well....

[hoopsguy]

I would like each team to designate a team leader by the end of the day.

I'll post the team lists that I have later this morning to help with this process.

[Magneto]

Since you mention Magneto I remember Jean Grey mentioned that he should be regarded as cleared during private team talks. A co-incidence?

At the risk of bringing up "evidence" that incriminates myself, I wondered myself what the derivation of this statement was. I still wonder.

All I can say is that you may examine my actions and my words until you are satisfied. I have done what I have done and I have given my reasons for each.

I am the only soldier of Apocalypse and Doom that has attended each mission against the rebels, and my performance has been, in a word, exceptional. You may call it arrogance; I call it truth.

[Quicksilver]

JOIN MISSION TO EGYPT

I have a reasonable amount of energy I can use as well.

[Magneto]

It's worth noting that I really didn't want to attack Spiderman, but Doom didn't want me to attack Colossus so there you have it.

I do not wish to associate myself with Kang; however, my actions were the same last evening. Colossus's duplicity disappoints me.

[Magneto]

I would like each team to designate a team leader by the end of the day.

I'll post the team lists that I have later this morning to help with this process.

Magneto leads the Brotherhood, in the unlikely event there was any doubt.

[GhostRider]

Nick Fury is the leader of S.H.I.E.L.D. as he founded it.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Vision was the one who created Strike team, however he seemed to be ok with the SilverSurfer being the team leader at the time, and with Vision's other OOC issues, perhaps that might work best anyways.

[Scarlet Witch]

Magneto leads the Brotherhood, in the unlikely event there was any doubt.

I had no idea.

LEAVE BROTHERHOOD OF MUTANTS

[KangtheConqueror]

I do not wish to associate myself with Kang; however, my actions were the same last evening. Colossus's duplicity disappoints me.

What, do I have B.O. or something?

[Magneto]

I had no idea.

LEAVE BROTHERHOOD OF MUTANTS

So be it, daughter. Although I believe you are genuinely attempting to help us defeat Galactus and the rebels, you have clearly made your decision to do it alone.

You will never comprehend the depth of my sadness when I lift up your corpse after the village finishes destroying you; but you have chosen your own path and I see that there is nothing I can do to dissuade you.

[KangtheConqueror]

I'll go on either mission, or I can continue to work on my Galactus preventing work (which has fallen behind due to the sabotage and then having to take down the Destroyer).

I'll let Doom pick since he got all uppity over my pick of an attack yesterday.

[EmmaFrost]

I joined the brotherhood a number of pages ago.

STANDARD ATTACK HUMAN TORCH

No explanation. No "gut" feeling. Just an attack

Perhaps I am confused, and Lord Apocalypse please correct me if I am mistaken, but the generic attacks, in my understanding, were for those who had not yet expended any points and needed to spend at least 1 point to get their full 4 eps overnight.

If this is in fact the case I will revoke my attack on Human Torch. If it is not, then I have to ponder the wisdom of such a command my lord, for surely it is folly to weaken our forces.

He doesn't seem overly sure of his gut instincts here.

I apologize for my lateness in arriving. I put but a single ep into my blow upon the Torch.

A simple attack.

Everyone asked me the same question, why did I hurt Human Torch so badly. I answered this as plainly as I possibly could. I DIDN't. I hit him with a finger at best. A basic attack does a LOT of damage from the likes of myself. I can't help that.


I am starting to get the impression that Colossus attacked the Human Torch with a single attack.

I stated earlier that I used a simple basic attack on Mr. Storm. I believe I commented that it wasn't MY fault he was...Fragile?

I can't give you any more answer than the truth, I hit him with a basic attack. 1 ep worth. I also noted OOC that I have a large multiplier on my attacks and to be wary.

Yes, that appears to be the story here.

And since Mr. Storm has now been eliminated and verified my distrust of him I can be honest with my abilities.

I do 2 points of damage per ep I expend. I hit him with 3 points because I suspected he was not what he said he was. I have no solid evidence, it was a gut feeling, luckily my instincts were correct in this case.


Um. Oh! I was misreading his statements all along. In fact he was attacking with three points. Silly me for misinterpreting the signals.

Colossus will ensure the destruction of the statue.

JOIN MISSION TO EGYPT

Colossus must know that his lies have caught up with him. A fine way for him to go out in a blaze of glory if he is a rebel would be to sabotage the efforts of any other member of the Brotherhood involved in this mission. Let's face it Pietr. You have lied for no apparent reason. If you are loyal you should never lie unless there is a clear benefit to do so. I can fathom no benefit for you to have to mislead us in this fashion. The most likely scenario is that you are a rebel caught in a mistake.

Attack Colossus

Vote: Remove Colossus from The Brotherhood

I am not even sure that that is permissable.

[ ooc - the sarcasm is my attempt at roleplay. ]

[Magneto]

ATTACK COLOSSUS

[EmmaFrost]

At the risk of bringing up "evidence" that incriminates myself, I wondered myself what the derivation of this statement was. I still wonder.

All I can say is that you may examine my actions and my words until you are satisfied. I have done what I have done and I have given my reasons for each.

I am the only soldier of Apocalypse and Doom that has attended each mission against the rebels, and my performance has been, in a word, exceptional. You may call it arrogance; I call it truth.

I did not wish to imply that I consider you a traitor. I just found it interesting that the two ex-prelates I most suspect of treachery took it upon themselves to declare you "cleared". Of course, this is a classic tactic used by traitors to gain credence for their cause.

[EmmaFrost]

... If you are loyal.

[EmmaFrost]

Standard Defence: Diamond Form

I must depart and shall only be available but briefly later today, otherwise I fear the wrath of one far more powerful than myself.

[DrDoom]

So far Colossus, Quicksilver and Ghost Rider have pledged to this very important task. Scarlet Witch pledges to help from earth. I would see more pledge their energy to it.

Mimic, you possess the power to make this mission succeed singlehandedly with your energy stores. Prove your loyalty to Doom by eradicating the rebellion today.

Here are the Strike Teams Doom suggests. Disagree if you wish, but unexplained insubordination will be suspect.

Rebel Mission
Colossus
Emma Frost
Firebird
Ghost Rider
Iron Fist
Mimic
Quicksilver
Silver Surfer

Galactus Attack
Aardwolf
Beast
Cable
Henry Pym
Hulk
Kang
Vision

Tonight's Guards
Magneto
Nick Fury
Punisher
Silver Samurai
Spiderman

Mr. Fantastic I will expect you to open the portal to the Negative Zone tonight.

ALL HAIL DOOM

[Magneto]

I hastily added my attack on Colossus without explanation to get the teammate benefit from our attacks. I sought to attack him for his duplicity yesterday, but was advised to desisit by Lord Doom. My feeling have not changed.

VOTE TO REMOVE COLOSSUS FROM THE BROTHERHOOD
BOOT COLOSSUS AS SELF-APPOINTED LEADER IF POSSIBLE

[Tyrith]

Mission deadline - 3 PM

[KangtheConqueror]

With all due respect Doc Doom, do we want Mimic to use his energy here rather than save it to take down that big dude who wants to eat our planet?

[HenryPym]

: Sorry for your loss Vision, you and your family will be in my thoughts

I would like to see a mission during the weekend mods, probably ending on Sunday. I've noticed games tend to die after a long weekend absence.

[Magneto]

Tonight's Guards
Magneto
Nick Fury
Punisher
Silver Samurai
Spiderman

Can a prelate being guarded guard? That would be a clever loophole for my Lord Doom to exploit.

[HenryPym]

Sadly I have researched further (received an answer from the mod) and I will not be able to effect Galactus like I thought I might. Sorry for quenching that small bit of hope

[DrDoom]

ooc: I should be available for some weekend play, but I agree it makes it hard to know whether people are unavailable or skulking. I'll leave it up to wiser minds

[Scarlet Witch]

CREATE TEAM OF ALLEGIANCE TO SCARLET WITCH
JOIN TEAM OF ALLEGIANCE TO SCARLET WITCH

If anyone would like to join the team, "Of Allegiance to Scarlet Witch" please let me know.

[DrDoom]

<b>Dr. Doom orders Spiderman to Guard Doom Tonight</b>

[Scarlet Witch]

I forgot to mention, there are perks to this team. While we may not be able to gossip nonsensically like the old biddies in my father's Brotherhood, those who join will be under my protection, should the need arise.

The leader of the team, "Of Allegiance to Scarlet Witch", is Scarlet Witch.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Can a prelate being guarded guard? That would be a clever loophole for my Lord Doom to exploit.


It appears the rules allow for multiple layer of guarding:

Guard Action:
- when a player is on guard duty, they become the target of a night attack in place of the person they are protecting. Example - Wolverine takes an attack intended for Captain America (as well as any attacks targeted at Wolverine, if he is not protected by another player)


In this case, notice Wolverine is guarding Captain America, and it mentions the possibility of Wolverine also protected by someone else.

It appears that if player A guards Player B who guards Player C from these rules, Player B will take damage for any attacks on player C. Player A will take any attacks for player A or B... The top level guard does not protect vs everyone below them, just attacks intended for that specific target if I understand the rules correctly.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Order Nick Fury to guard Mr. Fantastic

[Scarlet Witch]

It sounds then like Player A might not take attacks that target Player C, though.

[Scarlet Witch]

It appears the rules allow for multiple layer of guarding:



In this case, notice Wolverine is guarding Captain America, and it mentions the possibility of Wolverine also protected by someone else.

It appears that if player A guards Player B who guards Player C from these rules, Player B will take damage for any attacks on player C. Player A will take any attacks for player A or B... The top level guard does not protect vs everyone below them, just attacks intended for that specific target if I understand the rules correctly.

Yeah -- this is saying the same thing I was. I just felt that more people would listen to it if it came from me.

[Mr.Fantastic]

It sounds then like Player A might not take attacks that target Player C, though.


Correct, that is what I meant. If I interpret the rules correctly. A player who guards takes only the damage intended for their protected target and themselves. If they themselves are guarded, their guard will take their damage, but not also the damage of the person they are guarding...


Clear as Mud? I figured!

[hoopsguy]

I hastily added my attack on Colossus without explanation to get the teammate benefit from our attacks. I sought to attack him for his duplicity yesterday, but was advised to desisit by Lord Doom. My feeling have not changed.

VOTE TO REMOVE COLOSSUS FROM THE BROTHERHOOD
BOOT COLOSSUS AS SELF-APPOINTED LEADER IF POSSIBLE

Colossus will no longer be associated with The Brotherhood of Mutants

[Cable]

So far Colossus, Quicksilver and Ghost Rider have pledged to this very important task. Scarlet Witch pledges to help from earth. I would see more pledge their energy to it.

Mimic, you possess the power to make this mission succeed singlehandedly with your energy stores. Prove your loyalty to Doom by eradicating the rebellion today.

Here are the Strike Teams Doom suggests. Disagree if you wish, but unexplained insubordination will be suspect.

Rebel Mission
Colossus
Emma Frost
Firebird
Ghost Rider
Iron Fist
Mimic
Quicksilver
Silver Surfer

Galactus Attack
Aardwolf
Beast
Cable
Henry Pym
Hulk
Kang
Vision

Tonight's Guards
Magneto
Nick Fury
Punisher
Silver Samurai
Spiderman

Mr. Fantastic I will expect you to open the portal to the Negative Zone tonight.

ALL HAIL DOOM

As you command, my lord.

JOIN GALACTUS MISSION

[Magneto]

MAGNETO ORDERS SILVER SAMURAI TO GUARD MAGNETO

[HenryPym]

Lord Doom,

Is there some way to speak with you privately? I feel my talents are being wasted in all honesty by going on mission after mission and would like to discuss it with you. I showed my loyally to you by going on the Galactus mission as you required of me even if I did not provide the energy you would have liked me to.

Having said that, this is perhaps the worse day for any of us to miss going on a mission given the nature of the mission in Egypt, so I feel like I should go on a mission today. So I seek guidance in resolving this quandry I find myself in.

[SilverSurfer]

I fear that the task of compiling this list is beyond even my not-inconsiderate intellect, especially when the likes of team membership must be considered. I can see several faults in the above list already. Things would be made easier if everyone stated their base attack and how much damage they attempted to deal out every day. I am aware that I have probably missed out people who have already stated how they attacked or how much damage they normally inflict but you'll forgive me for not wanting to search through again. I shall attempt to keep this list updated.


6. Silver Surfer - Base 2,


Attacked at base each day.

[SilverSurfer]

On to the attacks on Spider-Man. It is fair to say that if you removed the attack by Kang and left in the attack by Mimic that his day three assailants currently read as a who's who of my current major suspects. I would be astounded if at least one of his assailants didn't prove themselves to be treachorous. To my mind this goes a long way towards proving Parker's loyalty. We all might question his devotion to that loyalty but I do not believe non-participation is as big a crime as treachery.

It could also be a coup to the traitors if Spiderman was one of them and they decided to sacrifice him both to increase their trust levels and get rid of someone who wasn't helping them out.

[SilverSurfer]

I have a very strong feeling that the results shown are based on the amount of energy expended by the participants, or possibly on whether the person has already attacked Galactus. I invested a large quantity of energy into the attack, thus I succeded in penetrating through to the Destroyer of Worlds. Perhaps others would be willing to reveal how much effort they placed into the assault.

I've already stated I used just one point in this assault. I used much more than that day 1 and 2 and got through both times.

[HenryPym]

So what do we do with Aardwolf's belief (through use of a power?) that Silver Samurai and Quicksilver are working with the rebels?

What do we do with Firebird in light of Nightcrawler being a villager? (though seemingly possessed)

What do we do with Iron Fist who claims a power to slow Galactus, yet he seems neither slowed and neither has he been attacked by the Herald or Galactus himself?

We villagers are being very sloppy in regards to following up on information being brought to us.

[DrDoom]

Mr. Pym, I will consider giving you leave to pursue other ventures today. Lord Doom would leave the number of unaccounted for servants small, so we will have to see what the day brings. If enough of your fellow loyal servants do not arrive to commit to their missions Doom may require you to attack the planet eater.

[SilverSurfer]

Nothing is beyond consideration however, but does anyone have a current list of everyone on each team? I feel ok about a few people on my current team (Vision and SilverSurfer and perhaps others that I am not remembering are on my team currently) and I don't know if I would want to abandon them just yet.

I am still on Strike Squad as far as I recall. And condolences to Vision and his family.

[HenryPym]

Mr. Pym, I will consider giving you leave to pursue other ventures today. Lord Doom would leave the number of unaccounted for servants small, so we will have to see what the day brings. If enough of your fellow loyal servants do not arrive to commit to their missions Doom may require you to attack the planet eater.

Thank you Lord Doom for considering my request

[Mr.Fantastic]

So what do we do with Aardwolf's belief (through use of a power?) that Silver Samurai and Quicksilver are working with the rebels?

What do we do with Firebird in light of Nightcrawler being a villager? (though seemingly possessed)

What do we do with Iron Fist who claims a power to slow Galactus, yet he seems neither slowed and neither has he been attacked by the Herald or Galactus himself?

We villagers are being very sloppy in regards to following up on information being brought to us.

I am not sure what to make of Aardwolf's claims. At the time I wondered based on the way they were presented if it was just over eagerness or if there was some meat to it. Or an attempt at distraction (and if so, from whom), or actually the truth based on something that I have no knowledge of. My instinct seemed to suggest it was not necessarily fact unless more evidence was presented then just that.

Regarding Firebird.. I would be coming after her much stronger if Nightcrawler hadn't basically admitted to supporting Firebird's claim. Because of this, I have been a bit more hesitant to jump after Firebird due to something that I simply don't understand and hoped others more enlightened could lead this line of questions. I found it interesting though that someone (I'll have to look back to see who it actually was) jumped out quickly it seemed to support that Nightcrawler did indeed seem to be posessed but wasn't at time of death based on the death writeup.. Maybe they are able to read much more into it than I could. I still think the question of if Nightcrawler was influenced the first two days... who was free of actions both days to be able to do so? It obviously isn't professor X as someone mentioned previously.

As for IronFist.. other than his late arrival, what has he done or not done thus far? I don't recall him participating much in missions thus far.. which ones has he gone on? Obviously as we see with Doom, a late arrival isn't necessarily a sign of guilt, but I am curious what Ironfist has done since then.

[JeanGrey]

I forgot to mention, there are perks to this team. While we may not be able to gossip nonsensically like the old biddies in my father's Brotherhood, those who join will be under my protection, should the need arise.

The leader of the team, "Of Allegiance to Scarlet Witch", is Scarlet Witch.
Actually they can't chat anymore. I confer that advantage on a team, as did Charles, may he rest in peace.

[JeanGrey]

Lord Doom: You didn't list me for any proposed action.

[Scarlet Witch]

Actually they can't chat anymore. I confer that advantage on a team, as did Charles, may he rest in peace.

Oh. No one tells me anything. I don't think I chatted with anyone after he died, but I almost did. Good thing, I guess.

[JeanGrey]

I hastily added my attack on Colossus without explanation to get the teammate benefit from our attacks. I sought to attack him for his duplicity yesterday, but was advised to desisit by Lord Doom. My feeling have not changed.

VOTE TO REMOVE COLOSSUS FROM THE BROTHERHOOD
BOOT COLOSSUS AS SELF-APPOINTED LEADER IF POSSIBLE
The duplicity you refer to is over attack strength, correct? If not, what is the duplicity?

[SilverSurfer]

SILVER SURFER JOINS EGYPT MISSION

As you wish, my Lord. While not fully charged, I shall still deal a blow.

[hoopsguy]

Team Rosters:

Brotherhood of Mutants (created D1):
Magneto (appointed leader)
EmmaFrost
Mimic
Quicksilver

TheBrethren (created D1):
Firebird
Cable

SHIELD (created D1):
NickFury (assigned leader)
GhostRider
Spider-Man
Punisher

StrikeSquad (created D1):
SilverSurfer (assigned leader)
Vision
HenryPym
Hulk
KangTheConqueror
Mr.Fantastic

CHIKARA (formed D1):
SilverSamurai

Scarlet Witch Supporters (formed D4):
Scarlet Witch

[SilverSurfer]

Mr. Fantastic, I am willing to lead Strike Squad in the absence of Vision. Is there anyone you would have join our team?

[HenryPym]

I am not sure what to make of Aardwolf's claims. At the time I wondered based on the way they were presented if it was just over eagerness or if there was some meat to it. Or an attempt at distraction (and if so, from whom), or actually the truth based on something that I have no knowledge of. My instinct seemed to suggest it was not necessarily fact unless more evidence was presented then just that.

Regarding Firebird.. I would be coming after her much stronger if Nightcrawler hadn't basically admitted to supporting Firebird's claim. Because of this, I have been a bit more hesitant to jump after Firebird due to something that I simply don't understand and hoped others more enlightened could lead this line of questions. I found it interesting though that someone (I'll have to look back to see who it actually was) jumped out quickly it seemed to support that Nightcrawler did indeed seem to be posessed but wasn't at time of death based on the death writeup.. Maybe they are able to read much more into it than I could. I still think the question of if Nightcrawler was influenced the first two days... who was free of actions both days to be able to do so? It obviously isn't professor X as someone mentioned previously.

As for IronFist.. other than his late arrival, what has he done or not done thus far? I don't recall him participating much in missions thus far.. which ones has he gone on? Obviously as we see with Doom, a late arrival isn't necessarily a sign of guilt, but I am curious what Ironfist has done since then.

I have the same questions over Aardwolf's claims. It would be nice if he could participate more fully today and let us know where he got his information from or if it was based on hunches and guesswork.

I tend to agree with you over Nightcrawler. No one really seemed to come to his defense after he basically admitted he was being controlled, and no one seems to have attacked Firebird during the night as I thought she might be. I know she was busy with other matters yesterday, but I hope Bonita will also participate more today.

I must say at this point I am very suspicious of Iron Fist's claim. While the description of his power seems to fit his character, either he cannot use it due to being on missions, he's using it but having little effect, or it is a fabrication. I would very much like Iron Fist to continue with the participation he began with this morning.

[JeanGrey]

Back to the Prof X guard issue:
I agree the double kill is no where in the rules. But that does not mean that the bad guys wouldn't attempt the freebie with Magneto (not Mimic, as previously stated). We have already seen that there can be mechanics not in the rules (how Doom came to power).

[KangtheConqueror]

Shouldn't SilverSurfer go on the galactus mission? That would mean our entire team is going on that one save for Mr. F who has his own duties. Surely that would be a noticable bonus for us.

[KangtheConqueror]

Oh, and thought weakened, I still have a good amount of energy to devote here, so I'll be bringin the heat on the big fella.

GO ON GALACTUS MISSION

[DrDoom]

Indeed Ms. Grey, you were missed in my calculations. I shall add you to the Galactus team.

I think we must assume there was something going on with Nightcrawler, given his admission to it, and his innocence. THerefore Doom suspects Firebird told us the truth, though not necessariyl all of it.

Doom knows not what Aardwolf spoke of, and so he must elaborate if he wishes to convince others.

Iron Fist went on the Galactus Mission on DAy 3 but has been involved in no other mission. His lack of involvement is suspicious to Doom indeed.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Mr. Fantastic, I am willing to lead Strike Squad in the absence of Vision. Is there anyone you would have join our team?

There is 1 I feel fairly strong about and a few others that I only have good feelings about based on their participation thus far. At this time though, I think I am ok with them staying where they are and not asking them to leave for our team.

[Magneto]

The duplicity you refer to is over attack strength, correct? If not, what is the duplicity?

No. He insisted for some time that he used a minimal, 1 point attack. After the Skrull's death. Colossus said he actually used a 3 point attack because he felt that the Torch didn't seem quite right to him.

Ms. Frost has the specific posts collected for your review.

[SilverSurfer]

There is 1 I feel fairly strong about and a few others that I only have good feelings about based on their participation thus far. At this time though, I think I am ok with them staying where they are and not asking them to leave for our team.

I am glad to see there is nobody I am highly suspicious of on our team thus far.

[Magneto]

Back to the Prof X guard issue:
I agree the double kill is no where in the rules. But that does not mean that the bad guys wouldn't attempt the freebie with Magneto (not Mimic, as previously stated). We have already seen that there can be mechanics not in the rules (how Doom came to power).

Again, I received nothing to indicate that I was involved in an attack last night. I am convinced that Charles was the intended target.

[JeanGrey]

Indeed Ms. Grey, you were missed in my calculations. I shall add you to the Galactus team.

I think we must assume there was something going on with Nightcrawler, given his admission to it, and his innocence. THerefore Doom suspects Firebird told us the truth, though not necessariyl all of it.

Doom knows not what Aardwolf spoke of, and so he must elaborate if he wishes to convince others.

Iron Fist went on the Galactus Mission on DAy 3 but has been involved in no other mission. His lack of involvement is suspicious to Doom indeed.
Lord, I think my skills are illsuited at Galactus and would prefer to contribute that way to the daily mission, but will go wherever you feel my skills are best.

[Scarlet Witch]

SPECIAL ATTACK - PROBABILITY MANIPULATION

[DrDoom]

I wish for you to attack the Planet Eater, Ms. Grey. It may not be perfect, but we must balance that versus changing up the types of attacks, teams and numbers.

[Aardwolf]

If those who were suggested to go on the Galactus mission follow thourh we have mor than enough power there. I want to see the rebellion stopped so I am going to not so respectfully decline the suggestion from Dr. Doom and chose a different mission.

My talents were wasted last night in a guard mission (I only say wasted as there was no attack on Emma Frost). With that said, night guard duty is quite suited for some of my talents. When the moon arises I feel the power within me grow and my hunger for rebellious blood intensifies.

Go on Egypt Rebellion Mission

[Vision]

Galactus Attack
Aardwolf
Beast
Cable
Henry Pym
Hulk
Kang
Vision



Very well, as you wish. I find my energy reserves waning, yet shall I hurl myself at this monster, impeding his foul designs to the very last.

Aardwolf, Beast, Cable, Goliath, Hulk, and Kang -- ASSEMBLE!!!


ATTACK GALACTUS (DENSITY CONTROL)

[JeanGrey]

Attack Glactus

[Mimic]

Okay....going through the thread to find out what I missed. I didn't start at page 1, but I went back to page 1 to look at the player list. I noticed this:Day 1 Mission - Rebels capture "Telepath"
Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Age of Apocalypse (Day 2 deadline Wednesday 9PM CST) (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=1853620&postcount=417)


Could the telepath that was controlling Nightcrawler's actions have been this one? I can't remember off the top of my head, but was he controlled the first day?

[JeanGrey]

I wish for you to attack the Planet Eater, Ms. Grey. It may not be perfect, but we must balance that versus changing up the types of attacks, teams and numbers.
As you wish.

[Aardwolf]

attack Samurai

My reasons remain the same.

[KangtheConqueror]

Locked Stocked and Ready to Rock Droid Boy.

[KangtheConqueror]

Care to expound upon them Aardwolf?

[JeanGrey]

Could the telepath that was controlling Nightcrawler's actions have been this one? I can't remember off the top of my head, but was he controlled the first day?
I think this very well could be the consequences that had been talked about for not completing a mission. Good detective work.

[Aardwolf]

Care to expound upon them Aardwolf?

Samurai immediately jumped on the "no lynch" attack proposal day one, a plan which would make all day one activity useless to try to disect (a perfecgt hiding place for the rebellion and their day one attacks). Then the Samurai seemingly attacked the target with added energy (though this went against the idea of the original plan) and was too quick to be defensive about the attack after seeing that the damage dealt was posted so that all could see the numbers did not add up to a minimum attack. In addition there was a recent mission in which he apparantly did nothing to help.

[Vision]

Doctor Victor von Doom, I would seek an audience with you of a matter of some importance.

You have proven yourself to be a worthy and demanding leader, and I am honored to have been selected as your Prelate. I trust that I have honored you with my performance thus far.

However, I find my attention unavoidably wavering, due to events from elsewhere, and fear that I may at some point be delayed when my lord requires immediate action.

Therefore I submit to your judgement with regard to my continued suitability to maintain this lofty post at this time. I will continue on to the best of my ability should you wish it, and yet will I understand if you choose instead that I shall be set aside.

In either case I will continue to work with diligence to disrupting the forces arrayed against your rule.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Samurai immediately jumped on the "no lynch" attack proposal day one, a plan which would make all day one activity useless to try to disect (a perfecgt hiding place for the rebellion and their day one attacks). Then the Samurai seemingly attacked the target with added energy (though this went against the idea of the original plan) and was too quick to be defensive about the attack after seeing that the damage dealt was posted so that all could see the numbers did not add up to a minimum attack. In addition there was a recent mission in which he apparantly did nothing to help.


I thought that Samurai said he did not spend additional energy, and neither did Colossus, but then later Colossus admitted to spending extra energy (which means he originally lied).. if so Samurai didn't lie about not spending additional energy correct?

[Mimic]

Sorry, still at work so going through the thread as well as talking on the phone.

Okay....going through the thread to find out what I missed. I didn't start at page 1, but I went back to page 1 to look at the player list. I noticed this:

Could the telepath that was controlling Nightcrawler's actions have been this one? I can't remember off the top of my head, but was he controlled the first day?

Did some digging and Nightcrawler said it was the first night that he received a PM about it. I would probably conclude that the Rebels are using the telepath...

I wonder if they used him last night?

[Magneto]

I thought that Samurai said he did not spend additional energy, and neither did Colossus, but then later Colossus admitted to spending extra energy (which means he originally lied).. if so Samurai didn't lie about not spending additional energy correct?

I believe this is an accurate rendering of what happened.

[Magneto]

And the Silver Samurai is protecting me tonight. I would rather he not do so in a weakened state.

[Punisher]

Is Doom's request self-suficient? I have no problem guarding anyone, or do one of the prelates have to 'order' me to do so?

[Mimic]

So far Colossus, Quicksilver and Ghost Rider have pledged to this very important task. Scarlet Witch pledges to help from earth. I would see more pledge their energy to it.

Mimic, you possess the power to make this mission succeed singlehandedly with your energy stores. Prove your loyalty to Doom by eradicating the rebellion today.

Here are the Strike Teams Doom suggests. Disagree if you wish, but unexplained insubordination will be suspect.

Rebel Mission
Colossus
Emma Frost
Firebird
Ghost Rider
Iron Fist
Mimic
Quicksilver
Silver Surfer

Galactus Attack
Aardwolf
Beast
Cable
Henry Pym
Hulk
Kang
Vision

Tonight's Guards
Magneto
Nick Fury
Punisher
Silver Samurai
Spiderman

Mr. Fantastic I will expect you to open the portal to the Negative Zone tonight.

ALL HAIL DOOM
I'll go on the mission if you think I can singlehandedly stop the Rebels. Any suggestions on how much energy I should spend?

I hope you realize that I will not stop Galactus in this case...even with the Scarlet Witch's assistance.

Can you respond to these concerns before I commit to the mission as well as why you trust me so much (if you able to publicly)?

[JeanGrey]

Is Doom's request self-suficient? I have no problem guarding anyone, or do one of the prelates have to 'order' me to do so?
A prelate or Doom must order you.

[Mr.Fantastic]

I'll go on the mission if you think I can singlehandedly stop the Rebels. Any suggestions on how much energy I should spend?

I hope you realize that I will not stop Galactus in this case...even with the Scarlet Witch's assistance.

Can you respond to these concerns before I commit to the mission as well as why you trust me so much (if you able to publicly)?

I don't think it would be logical for people to call you on going on a mission that Doom instructed for you to do. Since the mission results seem to show those that put the most effort in, I would imagine that you would be capable of quite alot of effort right now which should be apparent at the end of the mission.

I don't feel that Doom's desire here is misplaced, and I also think it speaks volumes against those who were floating the idea that Doom had a seperate win condition of removing Galactus only. It seems apparent based on his morning's decree that he still cares about stopping Galactus, but by sending you here it is apparent that he cares more about stopping the rebels. I think you have the ability to try to help that happen.

[JeanGrey]

I hope you realize that I will not stop Galactus in this case...even with the Scarlet Witch's assistance.

I am of the mind at this point that we won't stop Galactus until we find the herald. This isn't to suggest we shouldn't try. We must try. But I do think our efforts are somewhat futile.

[Aardwolf]

I thought that Samurai said he did not spend additional energy, and neither did Colossus, but then later Colossus admitted to spending extra energy (which means he originally lied).. if so Samurai didn't lie about not spending additional energy correct?

I did not see the Colossus part. I have been distracted, most likely by minions of the rebellion, this week. I intend to find out just what the case may be with him.

[Mr.Fantastic]

I don't think it would be logical for people to call you out for not being able to stop Galactus because of going on a mission that Doom instructed for you to do. Since the mission results seem to show those that put the most effort in, I would imagine that you would be capable of quite alot of effort right now which should be apparent at the end of the mission.

I don't feel that Doom's desire here is misplaced, and I also think it speaks volumes against those who were floating the idea that Doom had a seperate win condition of removing Galactus only. It seems apparent based on his morning's decree that he still cares about stopping Galactus, but by sending you here it is apparent that he cares more about stopping the rebels. I think you have the ability to try to help that happen.


I seemed to have once again left out some of the words in my sentence. The added words that I intended are bolded above in the quote.

[hoopsguy]

Doctor Victor von Doom, I would seek an audience with you of a matter of some importance.

You have proven yourself to be a worthy and demanding leader, and I am honored to have been selected as your Prelate. I trust that I have honored you with my performance thus far.

However, I find my attention unavoidably wavering, due to events from elsewhere, and fear that I may at some point be delayed when my lord requires immediate action.

Therefore I submit to your judgement with regard to my continued suitability to maintain this lofty post at this time. I will continue on to the best of my ability should you wish it, and yet will I understand if you choose instead that I shall be set aside.

In either case I will continue to work with diligence to disrupting the forces arrayed against your rule.




Note - this is generally not allowed, but I'm implementing a "death in the family, but still playing" clause allowing a one-time Prelate change if Doom wants to do so.

[GhostRider]

Our people that have said that they can help take out Galactus thus far are: Iron Fist, mimic, and Scarlet Witch (with her ability anyway). I feel like I'm missing a couple others but that being said, we have all there of them going on the Egypt mission? Believe me, I don't mind the help but wouldn't they be better vs. Galactus?

[Punisher]

A prelate or Doom must order you.
Ready and waiting.

[Mimic]

If those who were suggested to go on the Galactus mission follow thourh we have mor than enough power there. I want to see the rebellion stopped so I am going to not so respectfully decline the suggestion from Dr. Doom and chose a different mission.

My talents were wasted last night in a guard mission (I only say wasted as there was no attack on Emma Frost). With that said, night guard duty is quite suited for some of my talents. When the moon arises I feel the power within me grow and my hunger for rebellious blood intensifies.

Go on Egypt Rebellion Mission

?

I don't understand this. Why would you go on this mission when there is more than enough power, which was your rationale to not go on the Galactus mission?

[DrDoom]

I realize Mimic that doing so will delay your attack on Galactus. Doom believes the delay is acceptable for my might is also bent on destroying the Planet Eater.

This mission seems of utmost importance today. While tehre are several paths to stopping Galactus we have failed most miserably in dealing with the rebels. We need a mighty victory today in that cause. Furthermore, your expenditure of your power on this victory will prove to Doom and others that indeed you are on our side, while Galactus is foe to traitor and loyalist alike.

It would seem if you spend a large chunk of energy on this mission it will be difficult for the rebels to do anything to stop us. You must make the decision, and of course only a dramatic success will let us know that you followed through. I hesitate to talk too specific in case it allows the rebels to successfully block our endeavor.

[Mimic]

I don't think it would be logical for people to call you on going on a mission that Doom instructed for you to do. Since the mission results seem to show those that put the most effort in, I would imagine that you would be capable of quite alot of effort right now which should be apparent at the end of the mission.

I don't feel that Doom's desire here is misplaced, and I also think it speaks volumes against those who were floating the idea that Doom had a seperate win condition of removing Galactus only. It seems apparent based on his morning's decree that he still cares about stopping Galactus, but by sending you here it is apparent that he cares more about stopping the rebels. I think you have the ability to try to help that happen.

Hopefully I do.

GO ON REBEL MISSION

[Vision]

Actually I did not know Galactus wore body armor. I believe I too may be able to affect it.

I just found this comment by Dr. Pym as I was scanning the event records.

I also may have some use in this matter. I am already committed to taking the fight to the Ravager, but this leads me to a thought of strategy.

I must confer with the Powers about some of this, but if I and Henry are able to disrupt the workings of his machine, or his armor, while Hulk, Kang, and Aardwolf provide cover and Ms. Grey wields her formidable mind, we may indeed be able to make some headway.

Dr. McCoy, you are skilled in physical prowess, yet Galactus is mightier than many of us put together. You are also a brilliant scientist and researcher, though I do not believe that this is in your wheelhouse. I leave it to you, then, to declare where in this mission you might have the greatest effect.

[DrDoom]

And Mimic, I have not found way to placing my trust in you, thus this test of your loyalty. Proof that you back our cause, and do not instead instead to expend your energy on plans against Doom's dominion.

[DrDoom]

Vision, I feel you will still serve as prelate well, if you feel you'll be able to arrive often enough to institute your orders. If not, I will indeed find another.

[Mimic]

And Mimic, I have not found way to placing my trust in you, thus this test of your loyalty. Proof that you back our cause, and do not instead instead to expend your energy on plans against Doom's dominion.

As you command.

For some reason as I was driving to work today I kept thinking "This I command!" (Serpentor)

[Mimic]

Hey, no one else felt it strange that Aardwolf was disobeying Doom and his reason was pretty weak?

[Mr.Fantastic]

And Mimic, I have not found way to placing my trust in you, thus this test of your loyalty. Proof that you back our cause, and do not instead instead to expend your energy on plans against Doom's dominion.


Doom, this exact concern was hounding me last night. I think I was finally able to overcome that concern to some extent however. You are right though that a test here probably would illustrate that to all.

[Punisher]

Aardwolf's action are eerily 'wolf'y.

[DrDoom]

Indeed two birds with one stone, or three, Mr. Fantastic. Though we have often been enemies I have placed you closest to Doom's right hand. It is a place of power, but also close enough for me to smite. I trust that by tomorrow we will have use of your portal and Doom's dominion will stand for eternity.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Indeed two birds with one stone, or three, Mr. Fantastic. Though we have often been enemies I have placed you closest to Doom's right hand. It is a place of power, but also close enough for me to smite. I trust that by tomorrow we will have use of your portal and Doom's dominion will stand for eternity.


That is my plan!

[Colossus]

I hastily added my attack on Colossus without explanation to get the teammate benefit from our attacks. I sought to attack him for his duplicity yesterday, but was advised to desisit by Lord Doom. My feeling have not changed.

VOTE TO REMOVE COLOSSUS FROM THE BROTHERHOOD
BOOT COLOSSUS AS SELF-APPOINTED LEADER IF POSSIBLE

The duplicity you refer to is over attack strength, correct? If not, what is the duplicity?


This would be my question, what have I not explained to everyone Magneto?

[Mimic]

Indeed two birds with one stone, or three, Mr. Fantastic. Though we have often been enemies I have placed you closest to Doom's right hand. It is a place of power, but also close enough for me to smite. I trust that by tomorrow we will have use of your portal and Doom's dominion will stand for eternity.

That is my plan!

Maybe in a What If? comic I could see this but wow. :eek:

[Scarlet Witch]

Our people that have said that they can help take out Galactus thus far are: Iron Fist, mimic, and Scarlet Witch (with her ability anyway). I feel like I'm missing a couple others but that being said, we have all there of them going on the Egypt mission? Believe me, I don't mind the help but wouldn't they be better vs. Galactus?

I can help either mission. I'm putting a small amount of faith in Mimic when he says that he can defeat Galactus with my help. But he's not ready to do that tomorrow, so I'll destroy the rebels today, giving Galactus another day of life before I destroy him. But the faith in Mimic is not really a big part of this plan. I'm confident that I can assist a large mission of you "Heroes" destroy Galactus, instead of Mimic acting alone, if that's a route we want to take.

[HenryPym]

I just found this comment by Dr. Pym as I was scanning the event records.

I also may have some use in this matter. I am already committed to taking the fight to the Ravager, but this leads me to a thought of strategy.

I must confer with the Powers about some of this, but if I and Henry are able to disrupt the workings of his machine, or his armor, while Hulk, Kang, and Aardwolf provide cover and Ms. Grey wields her formidable mind, we may indeed be able to make some headway.

Dr. McCoy, you are skilled in physical prowess, yet Galactus is mightier than many of us put together. You are also a brilliant scientist and researcher, though I do not believe that this is in your wheelhouse. I leave it to you, then, to declare where in this mission you might have the greatest effect.

Alas Vision, in my further research (I asked the mods) I determined I would have no effect on Galactus's armor. I assume the answer will be the same for you as well, but you should ask just in case.

[Scarlet Witch]

Hopefully I do.

GO ON REBEL MISSION

Mimic, surely you can conserve enough energy while still going on the mission to be ready for Galactus tomorrow?

[Colossus]

No. He insisted for some time that he used a minimal, 1 point attack. After the Skrull's death. Colossus said he actually used a 3 point attack because he felt that the Torch didn't seem quite right to him.

Ms. Frost has the specific posts collected for your review.


Not to state the obvious here, but thats what she meant magnet brain.

What more explanation do you want? I felt torch was bad, I went with my hunch and I hammered him. It left me weakened so I tried to make myself seem more powerful than I was at the time to keep retaliation attacks at bay.

Now, noting the fact that torch was in FACT a bad guy, I have to wonder why you're barking up this metal tree?

[Mimic]

Mimic, surely you can conserve enough energy while still going on the mission to be ready for Galactus tomorrow?

Ummmmm...without giving away exactly how much energy I'm using, I will not be able to attack Galactus tomorrow. Feel free to go hog wild with your energy though. :)

[Scarlet Witch]

Hey, no one else felt it strange that Aardwolf was disobeying Doom and his reason was pretty weak?

I thought it was assumed that Dr. Doom leads us in name only. You really aren't planning to put aside your mission to destroy Galactus just to soothe his fears, are you? For how long are you willing to let Galactus threaten the earth to place the Doctor's fragile ego?

[KangtheConqueror]

Colossus, why then did you say repeatedly it was just a pinprick (1 pt) attack by you?

[KangtheConqueror]

Not that I'm a fan of ol' Torchie

[Colossus]

Colossus, why then did you say repeatedly it was just a pinprick (1 pt) attack by you?


I stated 2, possibly 3 times that I only used 1 ep to attack Torch. The intent being to present the possibility that my single point attacks did 6 points of damage when in fact it cost me 3 points to do so.

[Scarlet Witch]

Ummmmm...without giving away exactly how much energy I'm using, I will not be able to attack Galactus tomorrow. Feel free to go hog wild with your energy though. :)

Unfortunate. With our combined power, we are sure to obliterate the rebellion. Dr. Doom will have been obeyed, and a smile will be on his sad little face when Galactus destroys us all.

[Magneto]

This would be my question, what have I not explained to everyone Magneto?

You said you hit with the minimum; then, 2 days later, you changed your story. You lied. Your excuse for lying is that you intuited something was wrong with the Torch -- after we all had found out that there was something, indeed, wrong with the Torch. Had you told the truth from the start, you would have been vindicated. Since you lied at first, your subsequent justification strikes me as...wanting.

Your bluster now merely confirms my beliefs.

[Mimic]

Not to state the obvious here, but thats what she meant magnet brain.

What more explanation do you want? I felt torch was bad, I went with my hunch and I hammered him. It left me weakened so I tried to make myself seem more powerful than I was at the time to keep retaliation attacks at bay.

Now, noting the fact that torch was in FACT a bad guy, I have to wonder why you're barking up this metal tree?

I'm not sure the Torch was in fact a bad guy. He just had different win conditions than the rest of us. He wasn't a Rebel, that's for sure....but then again he wasn't a Loyalist either.

It just seems propitious that the Human Torch wasn't loyal to Apocalypse and then you say "I knew it! And that's why I lied!"

[Scarlet Witch]

Colossus trusts No One.

[Mimic]

I thought it was assumed that Dr. Doom leads us in name only. You really aren't planning to put aside your mission to destroy Galactus just to soothe his fears, are you? For how long are you willing to let Galactus threaten the earth to place the Doctor's fragile ego?

Technically, I have no problem not going up against Galactus since that will effectively take me out of the game (unless somebody can bring me back from the dead *cough* *cough*). Are you trying to goad me?

[HenryPym]

If those who were suggested to go on the Galactus mission follow thourh we have mor than enough power there. I want to see the rebellion stopped so I am going to not so respectfully decline the suggestion from Dr. Doom and chose a different mission.

My talents were wasted last night in a guard mission (I only say wasted as there was no attack on Emma Frost). With that said, night guard duty is quite suited for some of my talents. When the moon arises I feel the power within me grow and my hunger for rebellious blood intensifies.

Go on Egypt Rebellion Mission

This post alarms me since Khonsu is a moon/night god in the mythologies I've studied. To deny Lord Doom so he can go on what may be the most important mission for us given this statement of how his power grows at night great concerns me.

[Magneto]

I stated 2, possibly 3 times that I only used 1 ep to attack Torch. The intent being to present the possibility that my single point attacks did 6 points of damage when in fact it cost me 3 points to do so.

You feared that using 3 points of energy would somehow leave you in a weakened state on the first day? Even with your participation in the day 1 mission against the rebels, I find this claim specious at best. Especially considering that the mighty Colossus is undoubtedly is impervious to most, if not all, physical attacks.

[Mimic]

So Colossus, what is your take on Kang?

[Colossus]

You said you hit with the minimum; then, 2 days later, you changed your story. You lied. Your excuse for lying is that you intuited something was wrong with the Torch -- after we all had found out that there was something, indeed, wrong with the Torch. Had you told the truth from the start, you would have been vindicated. Since you lied at first, your subsequent justification strikes me as...wanting.

Your bluster now merely confirms my beliefs.


Your logic makes no sense, if I had been HONEST to begin with you all would have eliminated me the next night for being a rebel and trying to kill someone on the sly.

You want to try thinking that through again?

You say I'm bad because I tried to kill a bad guy, then lied to protect myself when weakened.

I can deal with it if you dislike the fact that I lied to you, but you're being foolish indeed if you think I would have admitted the lie if in fact I were a rebel. As you can see it created suspicion. I may be many things, stupid ois not one of them.

Have you been hanging around Victor too much?

[HenryPym]

So where do we stand on the missions? who is confirmed as going on one so we can see where we may need to add more.

[DrDoom]

Indeed, she is, Mimic. Now that you threaten to win the Rebel Mission she is suddenly eager to take care of it herself. Interesting that she had a different approach to missions until now. Now we are led to believe that she can help us destroy Galactus by herself, or win the Rebel mission by herself. Other days when commanded by Doom to serve, she begs off. It is clear she does not wish you to complete this mission, as it would be the case for any rebel.

If your professions are correct Witch, then you can aid the Galactus mission and win it for us while Mimic wins the other.


Doom may change his mind before night falls, but as yesterday, still Doom aims his gauntlet at the Witch.

<B>DOOM ATTACKS SCARLET WITCH WITH MAGIC</b>

[Colossus]

You feared that using 3 points of energy would somehow leave you in a weakened state on the first day? Even with your participation in the day 1 mission against the rebels, I find this claim specious at best. Especially considering that the mighty Colossus is undoubtedly is impervious to most, if not all, physical attacks.


I spent 2 days with basically no energy to use overnight. I could not use my defensive abilities because I HAD gone on a mission each day. You bet your electromagnetic ass I was worried about being attacked. I'm resistant, not impervious.

As for what you find specious, I really don;t care one way or the other. If you choose to believe me bad then you choose stupidly and without evidence to show it. I cannot be blamed for your mistakes.

[Scarlet Witch]

Technically, I have no problem not going up against Galactus since that will effectively take me out of the game (unless somebody can bring me back from the dead *cough* *cough*). Are you trying to goad me?

I'm definitely not trying to goad you. The spoils of victory are yours for the taking. Sure, they may result in death, but they will still be there. If you're going to let them slip away based on an order from the Doctor who is obviously out of his league, then the loss is none but yours. I'll simply destroy Galactus by assisting a gang of these "Heroes" instead.

[Colossus]

So where do we stand on the missions? who is confirmed as going on one so we can see where we may need to add more.


I am going on the mission to crush the rebellion. That statue will be so much sand when I'm done with it.

[Scarlet Witch]

Indeed, she is, Mimic. Now that you threaten to win the Rebel Mission she is suddenly eager to take care of it herself. Interesting that she had a different approach to missions until now. Now we are led to believe that she can help us destroy Galactus by herself, or win the Rebel mission by herself. Other days when commanded by Doom to serve, she begs off. It is clear she does not wish you to complete this mission, as it would be the case for any rebel.

If your professions are correct Witch, then you can aid the Galactus mission and win it for us while Mimic wins the other.


Doom may change his mind before night falls, but as yesterday, still Doom aims his gauntlet at the Witch.

DOOM ATTACKS SCARLET WITCH WITH MAGIC

You want me to kill Galactus today? Sure. Withdraw your attack first.

[Mimic]

Indeed, she is, Mimic. Now that you threaten to win the Rebel Mission she is suddenly eager to take care of it herself. Interesting that she had a different approach to missions until now. Now we are led to believe that she can help us destroy Galactus by herself, or win the Rebel mission by herself. Other days when commanded by Doom to serve, she begs off. It is clear she does not wish you to complete this mission, as it would be the case for any rebel.

If your professions are correct Witch, then you can aid the Galactus mission and win it for us while Mimic wins the other.


Doom may change his mind before night falls, but as yesterday, still Doom aims his gauntlet at the Witch.

<B>DOOM ATTACKS SCARLET WITCH WITH MAGIC</b>

Vic, I think you're wrong here. I don't think she ever said she could destroy Galactus by herself or win the Rebel mission by herself. She has said that she can help greatly.

And she only said this because I said I was going to expend enough energy to make stopping Galactus tomorrow together (her and me) not a possibility. I would be willing to bet that she has begged off to conserve her own energy to boost my power and now that she can use some of her stored energy she has made these statements.

[DrDoom]

Avoiding death through vague and grandiose promises that never come true. You are as predictable as The Hulk, Scarlet Witch. If you wish to hold the earth hostage, do as you wish. You are not Doom's only hope.

[Mimic]

I am going on the mission to crush the rebellion. That statue will be so much sand when I'm done with it.

How much sand is that?

Anyhow, what are your feelings on Kang? Has he been giving you good vibes, bad vibes, or indifferent?

[Cable]

This post alarms me since Khonsu is a moon/night god in the mythologies I've studied. To deny Lord Doom so he can go on what may be the most important mission for us given this statement of how his power grows at night great concerns me.

I too am worried about Aardwolf's blatant disobedience with regards to his orders today. I fear he is a traitor on the verge of sabotage.

[DrDoom]

No, Mimic. While in the past she declared that she can greatly boost mission success, now that you are in danger of destroying the rebels, she claims heightened powers. You can see right above that she now vows to destroy Galactus. We have attacked Galactus with a band of Heroes every day, what has stopped her from destroying Galactus then, or at least suggesting that she could?

[DrDoom]

ooc: can we get a mission commit list, anyone, anyone?

[Scarlet Witch]

Indeed, she is, Mimic. Now that you threaten to win the Rebel Mission she is suddenly eager to take care of it herself. Interesting that she had a different approach to missions until now. Now we are led to believe that she can help us destroy Galactus by herself, or win the Rebel mission by herself. Other days when commanded by Doom to serve, she begs off. It is clear she does not wish you to complete this mission, as it would be the case for any rebel.

If your professions are correct Witch, then you can aid the Galactus mission and win it for us while Mimic wins the other.


Doom may change his mind before night falls, but as yesterday, still Doom aims his gauntlet at the Witch.

DOOM ATTACKS SCARLET WITCH WITH MAGIC

Bolded another example of your foolish leadership, Doom. Is this mere posturing, or do you really require me to prove you wrong here? I had earlier maintained that I will ensure success in the rebel mission today, then ensure success against Galactus tomorrow. It was AFTER that that you ordered Mimic to toil against the rebels today, ensuring that he will NOT be able to defeat Galactus tomorrow.

[Vision]

Alas Vision, in my further research (I asked the mods) I determined I would have no effect on Galactus's armor. I assume the answer will be the same for you as well, but you should ask just in case.

Henry, I have also discovered this information in advance of our attack.

Nonetheless we shall engage to the extent of our capabilities!

[Mimic]

Cable/Hank, that's what I've been saying!

Vic, you make good points but I think perhaps she is writing from emotion rather than anything else.

*shrug* Just so you know, I can't defeat Galactus by myself. Like you say, there are other options out there and if I can defeat the Rebels today I will.

[DrDoom]

Doom will return shortly.

[hoopsguy]

Currently opting in for Mission:
Post #2020 - GhostRider
Post #2027 - Colossus
Post #2038 - Quicksilver
Post #2084 - SilverSurfer
Post #2099 - Aardwolf
Post #2126 - Mimic

Currently opting in for Galactus:
Post #2069 - Cable
Post #2090 - Kang
Post #2100 - Vision
Post #2101 - JeanGrey

[Scarlet Witch]

Avoiding death through vague and grandiose promises that never come true. You are as predictable as The Hulk, Scarlet Witch. If you wish to hold the earth hostage, do as you wish. You are not Doom's only hope.

And Mimic is not my only hope. Either way, Galactus will be defeated, whether it be by Mimic, or by others in his place. If you don't want to withdraw your attack, that's fine. But you've exposed yourself as having ordered a HUGE waste of resources, because you wouldn't withdraw an attack that can easily be placed again after the mission is over. No one will buy that, and I wouldn't be shocked to see a revolt destroy your already-crumbling leadership after your actions today.

[GhostRider]

You want me to kill Galactus today? Sure. Withdraw your attack first.

Scarlet Witch, I don't wish to butt into family affairs but as a person who kind of likes driving his Harley around on this big rock, so even though you two may be spatting, could you help a biker out and kindly save the world so I can keep enjoying my cheerleader?

[DrDoom]

You refuse to defeat the greatest menace to the planet because Lord Doom won't withdraw an attack. You are either petty, foolish, treacherous or serving other forces. Bah, enough with you.

Henry Pym it seems we will indeed need you against Galactus for Beast, Hulk and Aardwolf have not joined the mission.

Many are missing from the other mission as well. Doom can only hope they return in time. Mimic and Scarlet Witch, your respective aid on the missions today may be critical.

[Magneto]

Your logic makes no sense, if I had been HONEST to begin with you all would have eliminated me the next night for being a rebel and trying to kill someone on the sly.

You want to try thinking that through again?

You say I'm bad because I tried to kill a bad guy, then lied to protect myself when weakened.

I can deal with it if you dislike the fact that I lied to you, but you're being foolish indeed if you think I would have admitted the lie if in fact I were a rebel. As you can see it created suspicion. I may be many things, stupid ois not one of them.

Have you been hanging around Victor too much?

So many holes. Where to start?

You tried to kill someone whom the rebels likely could not identify "on the sly." From the rebel perspective, young Storm was simply someone they knew only as not one of them. I presume the rebels have/had no more knowledge of what extreneous actors there may be on our stage. Ergo, to a rebel, Storm was probably a villager.

Did you try and kill a "bad guy?" Whether the Skrull was good or bad remains unknown. He notified us of the existence of the Herald, which is good. I surmise he had different win conditions, although I think only related to the demise of Galactus and the Herald.

Your justification for lying, that the expenditure of 3 points plus whatever you expended on the mission, which did not appear to be much, left the Mighty Colossus in a weakened state after day 1, is equally pathetic.

[Scarlet Witch]

Scarlet Witch, I don't wish to butt into family affairs but as a person who kind of likes driving his Harley around on this big rock, so even though you two may be spatting, could you help a biker out and kindly save the world so I can keep enjoying my cheerleader?

The responsibility lies in the hands of Doom. I was all set to take care of the rebels -- if Mimic will be doing that, then my efforts will essentially go to waste. I could take on Galactus now. All Doom needs to do is to withdraw an attack which can be redone after the mission is over if he wants me to do this. Perhaps if you begged him, he might be willing to do so.

[Colossus]

How much sand is that?

Anyhow, what are your feelings on Kang? Has he been giving you good vibes, bad vibes, or indifferent?


I have no real feel for Kang, good or bad, he has performed his duties well and not given anyone a reason to distrust him at this point.

[Mr.Fantastic]

This is what I currently show for people that have not signed up yet for their appropriate missions:
Rebel Mission
Emma Frost
Firebird
Iron Fist
Mimic



Galactus Attack
Aardwolf - wrong mission
Beast
Henry Pym
Hulk

[GhostRider]

Hey Doomy, why don't you make nice with the Witch for a little bit and let her do the work we need against Galactus and let Mimic save us from the rebellion and then see where we stand. I'm inclined to believe that the witch can really help us against Galactus. She's the only one that has said she can that actually appears willing to (Mimic doesn't have the energy yet, Iron Fist hasn't done it, etc.). So, play nice for a little bit to give us all a chance at success today.

[Vision]

Even inside these hallowed brackets Doom will haunt you. Doom never shuts up, for he wishes to listen to the voice of genius.

ALL HAIL DOOM


[ ooc - funny shit. ]

[EmmaFrost]

Not to state the obvious here, but thats what she meant magnet brain.

What more explanation do you want? I felt torch was bad, I went with my hunch and I hammered him. It left me weakened so I tried to make myself seem more powerful than I was at the time to keep retaliation attacks at bay.

Now, noting the fact that torch was in FACT a bad guy, I have to wonder why you're barking up this metal tree?

So you expected us to believe that your standard attack inflicted 6 points of damage. Do you have defensive powers that require the use of energy? Otherwise all your purported lack of energy means is that you would not be able to strike back, you would be just as vulnerable as ever to attack. In fact, stating that you were very able to crush opponents once you got your energy back actually should encourage your foes to attack you all out on day two so that you could be disposed of before you could bring your mighty power back to attack. Your reasoning lacks logic.

Primarily though, you lied when there was no good reason to do so. Simple self-preservation is not a valid reason for lying if you are loyal. It is akin to claiming to be a seer when you are not, in order to avoid a lynch. So answer me, if someone claims to be a seer to avoid a lynch and it is then revealed that they are not, would you attack them?

[DrDoom]

Scarlet Witch is perfectly capable of performing her feats regardless of what I do. Judge her by her actions. I have, and thus she is my target today, as yesterday.

[DrDoom]

Mr. Fantastic, Mimic I believe has committed to the rebel mission. HOpefully Emma will now that she has arrived.

[DrDoom]

Doom must attend duties in his castle. I hope that all will meet the mission deadline if I do not return.

[KangtheConqueror]

How much sand is that?

Anyhow, what are your feelings on Kang? Has he been giving you good vibes, bad vibes, or indifferent?

Since you've asked 2-3 other people now, we might as well hear your feelings on me, don't you think?

[EmmaFrost]

Can anyone please run the case against Scarlet Witch in a rationale form because I fail to understand it. Is it merely that she chose to withhold her power one day, because, if so, that is something that can be applied to many among us.

I favour overkill on the Egyptian mission to ensure success at the expense of the Galactus mission. Furthermore I think loyalists need to consider their energy reserves, as the loyalists will certainly have been doing so. Having wasted a considerable amount of energy on an attack that most did not bother to join in anything but body I think the rebels should sweat about Galactus for a change.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Mr. Fantastic, Mimic I believe has committed to the rebel mission. HOpefully Emma will now that she has arrived.

Sorry, missed that one on my newly invented special PDA that I have which inputs all of this data without me having to do so. It has automatically corrected itself with the artificial intelligence that I gave it.

[Mimic]

I have no real feel for Kang, good or bad, he has performed his duties well and not given anyone a reason to distrust him at this point.

Interesting considering Kang was NOVA blasted by the Human Torch whom you consider bad.

[SilverSurfer]

You want me to kill Galactus today? Sure. Withdraw your attack first.

Vic, I think you're wrong here. I don't think she ever said she could destroy Galactus by herself or win the Rebel mission by herself.

Crossposted but apparently she claims just that. We should give her the chance. If she succeeds, great. If not, she will face the consequences.

It is my belief that distateful as I find her, she is unlikely to be a traitor strictly because of her inability to shut her mouth.

[Mimic]

Since you've asked 2-3 other people now, we might as well hear your feelings on me, don't you think?

I don't know what to think really. I do know that the SuperSkrull (Torch) attacked you for some reason, but since we can't determine why I don't know.

I didn't ask 2-3 other people, I asked Colossus 2-3 times...mostly to trick him into saying what I thought he'd say because I think he forgot the Torch attacked you. *shrug*

[Mr.Fantastic]

Can anyone please run the case against Scarlet Witch in a rationale form because I fail to understand it. Is it merely that she chose to withhold her power one day, because, if so, that is something that can be applied to many among us.

I favour overkill on the Egyptian mission to ensure success at the expense of the Galactus mission. Furthermore I think loyalists need to consider their energy reserves, as the loyalists will certainly have been doing so. Having wasted a considerable amount of energy on an attack that most did not bother to join in anything but body I think the rebels should sweat about Galactus for a change.


I think the biggest case being made against her is that she is being a Scarlet Witch! :) Basically ruffling Doom's feathers even though he seems to be pretty much cleared, and his actions also seem to show no third party win conditions or the like either as some suggested. I think Doom is being a bit upset at her because with his plan even one person openly defying it might cause the entire thing to implode and become worthless (if he is attempting to do what I think by making sure to use up everyone's action points so they can't be used against us).

Now that said, do I think that this makes her evil? Not really.. I think her over the top approach has put her pretty high there in the spotlight, so I would assume someone with the ability to "seer scan" as it has been called might take the opportunity to look at her early on, which would not be a recipe for her success if she was bad..

I think if anything, I don't necessarily trust her as she hasn't really been overly cooperative, and she may or may not be loyal, but I don't think that makes her necessarily a rebel either.. If anything she's just being overly stubborn.

[Mimic]

I don't know what to think really. I do know that the SuperSkrull (Torch) attacked you for some reason, but since we can't determine why I don't know.

I didn't ask 2-3 other people, I asked Colossus 2-3 times...mostly to trick him into saying what I thought he'd say because I think he forgot the Torch attacked you. *shrug*

Oh, and it doesn't make sense that if he was so tuned into the Torch that he would forget this. My two cents.

[Scarlet Witch]

I favour overkill on the Egyptian mission to ensure success at the expense of the Galactus mission. Furthermore I think loyalists need to consider their energy reserves, as the loyalists will certainly have been doing so. Having wasted a considerable amount of energy on an attack that most did not bother to join in anything but body I think the rebels should sweat about Galactus for a change.

I do agree with this, though that point may have been lost in my struggles to bash reason into the head of Dr. Doom. I also favor overkill on the Egyptian mission -- that's why I planned to assist it this morning. However, if Mimic is going to use his considerable energy on that mission, that is already overkill. Mimic is just following orders, but how Dr. Doom does not see this, I do not understand. I am of the opinion that one of Mimic or myself is needed for this mission, but using both of us on it today takes away some of our options for going after Galactus tomorrow.

[EmmaFrost]

Order Punisher to Guard Emma Frost, the White Queen

My body shall go on the mission to Egypt but I shall not commit to the mission as I have to previous ones, because, quite frankly, I think it's someone else's turn.

Commit to Egypt Mission

[Mimic]

This is what I currently show for people that have not signed up yet for their appropriate missions:
Rebel Mission
Emma Frost
Firebird
Iron Fist
Mimic



Galactus Attack
Aardwolf - wrong mission
Beast
Henry Pym
Hulk
Missed this before. I signed up for the Rebel Mission.

[hoopsguy]

Just in case anyone was referencing the Page 1 post for times, both the Mission and Galactus will be run at 3PM (not 4PM). This is in keeping with the post by Tyrith earlier this morning. Page 1 has been updated to reflect this.

Just about one hour until these are both processed.

[KangtheConqueror]

I didn't ask 2-3 other people, I asked Colossus 2-3 times...

Gotcha. I guess I should've looked at who you were talking to when catching up

[Hulk]

HULK JOIN GALACTUS MISSION!!!!

[EmmaFrost]

I can sense the powerful one's eyes boring into the back of my neck. I shall leave you all now.

[HenryPym]

It looks like the rebel mission is very undermanned, and with the addition of Aardwolf who I have concerns about.

[KangtheConqueror]

I do agree with this, though that point may have been lost in my struggles to bash reason into the head of Dr. Doom. I also favor overkill on the Egyptian mission -- that's why I planned to assist it this morning. However, if Mimic is going to use his considerable energy on that mission, that is already overkill. Mimic is just following orders, but how Dr. Doom does not see this, I do not understand. I am of the opinion that one of Mimic or myself is needed for this mission, but using both of us on it today takes away some of our options for going after Galactus tomorrow.

I can't decide if I think you're right or completely full of it. :D

[Scarlet Witch]

I think the biggest case being made against her is that she is being a Scarlet Witch! :) Basically ruffling Doom's feathers even though he seems to be pretty much cleared, and his actions also seem to show no third party win conditions or the like either as some suggested. I think Doom is being a bit upset at her because with his plan even one person openly defying it might cause the entire thing to implode and become worthless (if he is attempting to do what I think by making sure to use up everyone's action points so they can't be used against us).

Now that said, do I think that this makes her evil? Not really.. I think her over the top approach has put her pretty high there in the spotlight, so I would assume someone with the ability to "seer scan" as it has been called might take the opportunity to look at her early on, which would not be a recipe for her success if she was bad..

I think if anything, I don't necessarily trust her as she hasn't really been overly cooperative, and she may or may not be loyal, but I don't think that makes her necessarily a rebel either.. If anything she's just being overly stubborn.

To be clear, I am not trying to say that Doom is a rebel. Since he is the one ruling the world, he would essentially be leading a rebellion against himself. :) Pretty unlikely, I'd say.

[Mimic]

Aardwolf is here, maybe he can answer some of our concerns.

[Aardwolf]

Hey, no one else felt it strange that Aardwolf was disobeying Doom and his reason was pretty weak?

Pretty weak? To go on a mission to help us weed out rebels is a pretty weak explanation? I find your questioning of this to be pretty weak. I take it intelligence is not one of your powers, or you are a rebel who does not want us to use our powers in a mission that could directly hurt your cause.

[Magneto]

Since we appear to be undermanned on both missions, I will be available to have my assignment changed if necessary. No one has selected me to guard them this evening.

[Magneto]

I can't decide if I think you're right or completely full of it. :D

I have been wrestling with this question for many, many years. As I posted earlier, I have concluded that both are true statements.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Since we appear to be undermanned on both missions, I will be available to have my assignment changed if necessary. No one has selected me to guard them this evening.


Who is left that hasn't ordered a guard command yet among the prelates?

[Aardwolf]

Collossus and QuickSilver are already on the Rebel mission and I don't trust either of them. We need more on this mission to counter their sabotage attempts.

[Mimic]

So far Colossus, Quicksilver and Ghost Rider have pledged to this very important task. Scarlet Witch pledges to help from earth. I would see more pledge their energy to it.

Mimic, you possess the power to make this mission succeed singlehandedly with your energy stores. Prove your loyalty to Doom by eradicating the rebellion today.

Here are the Strike Teams Doom suggests. Disagree if you wish, but unexplained insubordination will be suspect.

Rebel Mission
Colossus
Emma Frost
Firebird
Ghost Rider
Iron Fist
Mimic
Quicksilver
Silver Surfer

Galactus Attack
Aardwolf
Beast
Cable
Henry Pym
Hulk
Kang
Vision

Tonight's Guards
Magneto
Nick Fury
Punisher
Silver Samurai
Spiderman

Mr. Fantastic I will expect you to open the portal to the Negative Zone tonight.

ALL HAIL DOOM
If those who were suggested to go on the Galactus mission follow thourh we have mor than enough power there. I want to see the rebellion stopped so I am going to not so respectfully decline the suggestion from Dr. Doom and chose a different mission.

My talents were wasted last night in a guard mission (I only say wasted as there was no attack on Emma Frost). With that said, night guard duty is quite suited for some of my talents. When the moon arises I feel the power within me grow and my hunger for rebellious blood intensifies.

Go on Egypt Rebellion Mission

Pretty weak? To go on a mission to help us weed out rebels is a pretty weak explanation? I find your questioning of this to be pretty weak. I take it intelligence is not one of your powers, or you are a rebel who does not want us to use our powers in a mission that could directly hurt your cause.

Nice rhetoric combined with personal insults. :)

Try providing an explanation of how the Rebel mission composition is not as strong as the Galactus team composition. I don't see how this is so.

[Mimic]

Collossus and QuickSilver are already on the Rebel mission and I don't trust either of them. We need more on this mission to counter their sabotage attempts.

What's the case against Quicksilver?

[Aardwolf]

It looks like the rebel mission is very undermanned, and with the addition of Aardwolf who I have concerns about.

The only reason you should have concerns about me going on the rebel mission is if you are a rebel, so that must mean...

Wait your turn and I will get to you soon.

What is most important today is that I get to taste rebel blood!!!

[Magneto]

Who is left that hasn't ordered a guard command yet among the prelates?

Vision, I believe, First Prelate.

[Aardwolf]

Nice rhetoric combined with personal insults. :)

Try providing an explanation of how the Rebel mission composition is not as strong as the Galactus team composition. I don't see how this is so.

Strength is not in direct relation to the importance. Galactus mission is important to us and the rebels. Rebel mission is important only to us for success, for rebels it is only imporant to sabotage. We need as much of our own strength on that mission as possible to counter any sabotage attempts.

I know I have been taken away by outside distractions but QuickSilver has added nothing to our assistance, has done merely hit and run attacks with no explanation (yet I have not seen anyone call QuickSilver on this other than me) and has been part of a failed mission in which QuickSilver seemed to do nothing.

[Scarlet Witch]

Nice rhetoric combined with personal insults. :)

Try providing an explanation of how the Rebel mission composition is not as strong as the Galactus team composition. I don't see how this is so.

(ooc) I thought that's the way the game is played! (/ooc)

Despite Dr. Doom's inability to withdraw his attack on me, I am considering assisting the Galactus mission today. There's no point in waiting until tomorrow for it. Thoughts?

[HenryPym]

Scarlet Witch,

are you helping with the attack on Galactus or not? not sure from all the posts between you and Doom.

[HenryPym]

nice crosspost :)

With so little time left before the misions, you need to decide now Scarlet Witch so we can figure out which mission needs more people or not

[Mimic]

(ooc) I thought that's the way the game is played! (/ooc)

Despite Dr. Doom's inability to withdraw his attack on me, I am considering assisting the Galactus mission today. There's no point in waiting until tomorrow for it. Thoughts?

I'd do it. Let's place our trust in Doom at this point.

[Mimic]

Strength is not in direct relation to the importance. Galactus mission is important to us and the rebels. Rebel mission is important only to us for success, for rebels it is only imporant to sabotage. We need as much of our own strength on that mission as possible to counter any sabotage attempts.

I know I have been taken away by outside distractions but QuickSilver has added nothing to our assistance, has done merely hit and run attacks with no explanation (yet I have not seen anyone call QuickSilver on this other than me) and has been part of a failed mission in which QuickSilver seemed to do nothing.

Hmmmm...I can understand that explanation of mission importance as well as countering sabotage attempts but you understand that you put the spotlight on yourself by disobeying Doom and saying "Death to the rebels!" while changing missions? At the same time, you hinted at being a better guard. Wouldn't it be prudent to not go on a mission and prevent a rebel kill tonight if the rebel mission fails?

I'm not sure what to think about your explanation of Quicksilver other than that is not to the same level of scrutiny that Colossus was under.

[Scarlet Witch]

nice crosspost :)

With so little time left before the misions, you need to decide now Scarlet Witch so we can figure out which mission needs more people or not

How would my decision affect that?

At this point, I am leaning toward using all my energy on Galactus, and let Mimic handle the rebels -- I had planned to use about a third of my energy on the rebels today, and two-thirds on Galactus tomorrow, but that energy won't be needed tomorrow after all.

[Scarlet Witch]

I'd do it. Let's place our trust in Doom at this point.

Sounds good. You take the rebels, I'll take Galactus. Doom twiddles his thumbs.

[Quicksilver]

Hmmmm...I can understand that explanation of mission importance as well as countering sabotage attempts but you understand that you put the spotlight on yourself by disobeying Doom and saying "Death to the rebels!" while changing missions? At the same time, you hinted at being a better guard. Wouldn't it be prudent to not go on a mission and prevent a rebel kill tonight if the rebel mission fails?

I'm not sure what to think about your explanation of Quicksilver other than that is not to the same level of scrutiny that Colossus was under.


He is angry that I attacked him, following orders to attack someone.

[Mimic]

FWIW, I think we're working together a little betterer today.

[SilverSurfer]

I think we'll have a better idea of that after the missions.

[Colossus]

So many holes. Where to start?

You tried to kill someone whom the rebels likely could not identify "on the sly." From the rebel perspective, young Storm was simply someone they knew only as not one of them. I presume the rebels have/had no more knowledge of what extreneous actors there may be on our stage. Ergo, to a rebel, Storm was probably a villager.

Did you try and kill a "bad guy?" Whether the Skrull was good or bad remains unknown. He notified us of the existence of the Herald, which is good. I surmise he had different win conditions, although I think only related to the demise of Galactus and the Herald.

Your justification for lying, that the expenditure of 3 points plus whatever you expended on the mission, which did not appear to be much, left the Mighty Colossus in a weakened state after day 1, is equally pathetic.


Wow, you're as ignorant as you are annoying.

Lets go point for point, shall we?


No shit the rebels didn't know who he was, how would they? and by the very SAME token, how could *I* have known he wasn't a rebel either? I had no foreknowledge that skrulls were even IN the game. So How does this negate the fact that I 'felt" someting was amiss with Mr. Storm? Oh thats right, it doesn;t, you simply can't maintain a timeline in your haste to persecute.

Not knowing that he was in fact a skrull sort of eliminates any premeditation on my part don't you think? I was assuming Torch was a rebel, nothing more. Again, a baseless point on your part. You're not paying attention to the flow of events.

And yet again you fal back on the "you lied to us" No shit. If you had actually read my posts you would see that I expended points on the mission as well as in my attack. Now I don;t know how many points you had to start, but my pool was rather limited. And just to reiterate my response to your claims that I was not vulnerable:

I had already gone on a mission so i could not use my defensive powers, I expended points on both the mission and the attack on Storm, so I had only a point left to work with. SO yes, I was worried about retaliation from the forces I BELIEVED at the time I was striking against.

Try thinking in the terms of how things actually happened instead of making it up as you go, then perhaps it might sink into that magnetic field you call a brain.

I've had enough of your ridiculous time wasting, we have a mission to fulfill.

[HenryPym]

How would my decision affect that?

At this point, I am leaning toward using all my energy on Galactus, and let Mimic handle the rebels -- I had planned to use about a third of my energy on the rebels today, and two-thirds on Galactus tomorrow, but that energy won't be needed tomorrow after all.

well we would need more people on Galactus most likely if you decided not to use their energy there.

[hoopsguy]

Crap, I was gone for 15 minutes and you guys have filled my PM box with 20 more!

Emptying now, please resend in 5 minutes if you were not able to get through to me. (sigh)

[HenryPym]

okay then thanks Scarlet Witch. So do we need more on a mission or not then at this point?

[Aardwolf]

Wouldn't it be prudent to not go on a mission and prevent a rebel kill tonight if the rebel mission fails?


We need to play to win, we can't be playing "not to lose".

[Scarlet Witch]

well we would need more people on Galactus most likely if you decided not to use their energy there.

Aren't there only like 4 people going? Even with my energy there, we should have more people on it.

[Colossus]

Collossus and QuickSilver are already on the Rebel mission and I don't trust either of them. We need more on this mission to counter their sabotage attempts.



You'd best come up with something valid to support your wild accusations furball. You want to see sabotage? You had best look elsewhere.

[HenryPym]

Currently opting in for Mission:
Post #2020 - GhostRider
Post #2027 - Colossus
Post #2038 - Quicksilver
Post #2084 - SilverSurfer
Post #2099 - Aardwolf
Post #2126 - Mimic

Currently opting in for Galactus:
Post #2069 - Cable
Post #2090 - Kang
Post #2100 - Vision
Post #2101 - JeanGrey

Hulk has joined the Galactus mission, Emma Frost has joined the Egypt mission, am I missing anyone else?

[Mr.Fantastic]

okay then thanks Scarlet Witch. So do we need more on a mission or not then at this point?


With Aardwolf not going on this mission, I think we have less people then some days where we lost against Galactus.. So I think we still need more people to sign up for Galactus. Seems we are a few short right now on it.

Rebel Mission
Firebird
Iron Fist


Galactus Attack
Aardwolf - wrong mission
Beast
Henry Pym

[KangtheConqueror]

All these people who aren't going on missions has me quite worried. Perhaps the rebels have to not go on missions to do their rebellious stuff?

[HenryPym]

Okay then guess I will, and I will be using more than one energy this time.

join Galactus Mission

[Aardwolf]

In checking to see what PM's I may have sent today to hoops I noticed that if I open a PM from the sent items it gives the Reply All option but opening one in the Inbox does not. What's up wth that?

[Mimic]

We need to play to win, we can't be playing "not to lose".

We've gone to rhetoric to cliches. Nice!

No seriously, I understand and can agree with that philosophy....you do realize that if the mission fails you've put yourself in a position where it looks as if you joined to sabotage it?

[Mr.Fantastic]

I am taking this season one mission at a time.

We win as a team, we lose as a team.

Turnovers will be the key.

We take what the defense gives us.

Egypt is always a tough place to play.

We don't do these missions on paper!

There is no love lost between the rebels and the loyalist.

It is going to be a war out there.

We match up well.

[Scarlet Witch]

In checking to see what PM's I may have sent today to hoops I noticed that if I open a PM from the sent items it gives the Reply All option but opening one in the Inbox does not. What's up wth that?

(ooc) I think that happened with the move to Operation Sports (/ooc)

[Mimic]

I am taking this season one mission at a time.

We win as a team, we lose as a team.

Turnovers will be the key.

We take what the defense gives us.

Egypt is always a tough place to play.

We don't do these missions on paper!

There is no love lost between the rebels and the loyalist.

It is going to be a war out there.

We match up well.

If we aren't successful in this mission don't throw me under the bus.

[HenryPym]

lol Mr Fantastic.

[Vision]

Who is left that hasn't ordered a guard command yet among the prelates?

Vision, I believe, First Prelate.

This is correct, Reed. I stand prepared to make such an order, but have not yet discerned which guard(s) are available, and which Prelate(s) have yet to be guarded. I wonder if a summary might be forthcoming from either of you? That would prove useful indeed.

[Aardwolf]

We've gone to rhetoric to cliches. Nice!

No seriously, I understand and can agree with that philosophy....you do realize that if the mission fails you've put yourself in a position where it looks as if you joined to sabotage it?

I fully understand but I know the goal of my actions which is to destroy the rebellion. I took a chance and hope that it pays off. If I were in the rebellion why would I intentionally do this to bring attention my way?

I would be more suspicious of people accepting the Galactus mission with the "because doom asked" reason. That sounds too much like taking the easy cop out which is just what the rebellion wants, an excuse to use for why they took the actions they did.


As I have said, let me taste rebellion blood and I will be quite happy.

[Mr.Fantastic]

This is correct, Reed. I stand prepared to make such an order, but have not yet discerned which guard(s) are available, and which Prelate(s) have yet to be guarded. I wonder if a summary might be forthcoming from either of you? That would prove useful indeed.


I think the only person left is for you to order Magneto to guard yourself.. If I recall correct.

[Magneto]

I think the only person left is for you to order Magneto to guard yourself.. If I recall correct.

Correct. First Prelate, Doom has ordered me to be a guard, but my assistance may be helpful on either mission, and time is almost up. THoughts?

[Aardwolf]

(ooc) I think that happened with the move to Operation Sports (/ooc)

Actually I remember having it when we first moved to OS. If that were the case why would the button exist if you open a sent PM? I think something got screwed up when the skins were tampered with shortly after the move. I want my reply all back!!! ;) That way Tyrith doesn't think I am ignoring him when I send PMs to hoops and forget to add him back in.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Correct. First Prelate, Doom has ordered me to be a guard, but my assistance may be helpful on either mission, and time is almost up. THoughts?


I think Doom has been eager to try to balance the need to keep those who he trust more (prelates) safe from harm while forcing everyone else to use their actions to reduce the chances for using those actions against us.

So I think the important thing is that you either guard or get an action in, but by making you a prelate I believe Doom also trusts you and would not like something bad to happen to you this evening either.

[Mr.Fantastic]

I think Doom has been eager to try to balance the need to keep those who he trust more (prelates) safe from harm while forcing everyone else to use their actions to reduce the chances for using those actions against us.

So I think the important thing is that you either guard or get an action in, but by making you a prelate I believe Doom also trusts you and would not like something bad to happen to you this evening either.


Either way, I think if you would rather use your points on a mission, I don't know that I feel great about either of them. I feel a bit better about one than the other.. but I'm all about using you to beat the rebels if you don't mind taking the chance you might die tonight. Doom may disagree with me on that, but that is how I feel.

[Aardwolf]

At the same time, you hinted at being a better guard.


Better at night, but not necessarily in guarding others.

[Mimic]

Damn, shit or get off the pot!