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JAG
08-06-2011, 06:44 AM
There is trouble in Asgard. Its residents gather together, but they look out on a sea of strangers speaking with unfamiliar voices. You realize at once that this is Loki's work. You have the sinking feeling that he and other agents of Evil has infiltrated Asgard. It is up to the residents to determine who are those they can trust and who are those minions of Evil that must be put to death.

The basic structure of this game will be that of a typical werewolf game (vote for people to be lynched, wolves will do a night kill, usual victory conditions) with Norse mythology flavor and a combination of some less typical mechanics and divine abilities, though the roles will not have powers listed. Details are in the next post.

Minor note: Where mythology is more uncertain about an event or the strictest adherence to the truth would make the game less interesting, I may have altered some information slightly to improve game quality. Nothing will be outlandishly wrong (i.e. Thor will not be a painter), but there may be some simplifications made to improve the game play.


Rules that are somewhat different from most games:

Editing of posts: This is pretty unusual, but I will allow editing of posts if you do so within five minutes of your original post time. I don't feel you should be lynched for a silly typo or feel like you can't fix a simple error you made. For simplicity's sake though, after five minutes from the original post time, please don't edit your post, simply make a new one. One exception: please do not edit any posts with a vote in it.

Tiebreaker: If two or more players end up with the same number of votes, the player to be lynched will be randomly selected amongst those receiving the highest amount of votes. There is also a small chance that, in addition to this, another person at random will be lynched.

Nightfall: I will accept Nightfall votes. It needs to be unanimous, the wolves need to agree to it in private, and note that once you vote Nightfall, your vote for that day is locked and cannot be changed, so be completely sure of your vote if you choose to vote nightfall.

Conditional Orders: I will accept conditional orders. The latest submitted orders are the ones I will process for you.

Processing of Orders: In the event that multiple orders somehow conflict, the orders I receive earliest will take precedence (for example, someone who submits their final orders at 1pm vs. 4pm). The lynch is always the first action to be processed, the night kill is always the final action to be processed.


Rules that are mostly the same as other games (i.e. vets can probably just skim this section):

Deadline: 24 hr deadline is 10pm EST / 9pm CST / 7pm PST and whatever European time it is for Narcizo (open to change if people want, that seems to be the standard these days though). Votes and night actions at 10:00pm EST and earlier count, votes and night actions at 10:01pm EST do not count. Conditional night action orders are fine if you can't be there at deadline.

Voting: Use a separate line and bold your vote, unvotes are fine, No Lynch is not an option.

e.g. JAG is clearly off his usual game. I am sure he is a wolf.

Vote JAG

Quoting private messages publicly: Don't do this.

Private messaging: If you have PM abilities, please include me on all messages.

Discussion of game: While the game is in progress, please do not privately discuss the game with anyone else still in the game (other than within the constraints of the rules of course, i.e. wolves are free to PM themselves).

Vanilla villagers: All vanilla villagers will receive the following PM:

You are a vanilla Norse Berserker.

Victory Conditions:

Odin and the forces of Good win if they eliminate all evil players.
Loki and the forces of Evil win if they can reach a 1:1 ratio of evil player to good player.


Special game concepts:

Vahalla: All vanilla Norse Berserkers who perish in battle (i.e. die in any way) have a chance to have their spirits go to Valhalla upon death. You do not know how they are chosen (if there is a prerequisite they must fulfill, if it is random, etc...).

Ragnarok: The specter of Ragnarok, the climactic battle between good and evil that will decide the fate of the world, hovers over all that happens this game. There is no guarantee that during the timeline of the game you will have to face it or what form it will take if you do, but you know being lynched or night-killed will lessen your influence on the final battle, should it occur.

JAG
08-06-2011, 06:45 AM
Roles:

Role abilities will not be listed below. There will, however, be a description of each possible role and possibly a myth or two linked with the role that may give some hints as to their power or powers:


Gods on the side of good (these three roles are guaranteed to be in the game):

Odin - Lord of Asgard, chief among the Aesir (the primary group of Norse gods), he was mostly associated with wisdom, battle, and war. His desire for knowledge led him to sacrifice an eye to drink from the Well of Wisdom and to hang himself for 9 days on Yggdrasil, the World Tree, in order to learn Rune magic. He rode an 8-legged steed to battle and fought with a spear that never missed its mark. He frequently visited Vahalla to observe the battles between the warrior spirits housed there.

Thor - God of Thunder and Battle, Thor was a warrior without peer. Holding aloft his majestic hammer Mjolnir, no one could withstand his fury. Though mighty, Thor is not invincible, he is fated to slay (and be slain) by The Midgard Serpent during Ragnarok. Thor was the center of numerous mythological stories and his prowess against giants was well-documented.

Balder - Most beautiful and kind of all gods, his dreams of his own death frightened his mother Frigga to demand all objects in the world vow never to hurt him (how she did this I don't know). However she left out one object she deemed so unimportant and non-threatening in mistletoe and when Loki learned this, it became Balder's doom (see Mistletoe under Items).


Gods / Giants / Monsters on the side of evil (not all will be appearing, only Loki is guaranteed to be in the game):

Loki - The trickster and deceiver of the gods, master of illusion and disguise. At his best, he was a disruptive force to the enemies of the gods, he begat Odin's 8-legged steed, and was only a nuisance to the other gods with his tricks and shape-changing. At his worst, he conceiving monstrous children (Fenris Wolf, Midgard Serpent, and Hel by an ogress were three of his offspring) who were fated to slay the most fabled of the gods, and he conspired to have Balder killed.

Fenrir Wolf - The first of Loki's children from the ogress (Angrbodi), this wolf grew to an enormous size and the gods felt compelled to bind it so it could not threaten them. They tried two powerful fetters that the Fenrir Wolf easily broke until they commissioned dwarves to create a fetter that was unbreakable, which the dwarves created by combining 6 impossible ingredients. The Fenrir Wolf only agreed to try and break the final fetter if a god would put their hand in his mouth to show good faith. Tyr agreed and when the gods refused to free Fenrir, he snapped his jaws and Tyr lost his right hand.

Midgard Serpent - Also known as Jormungandr, this monstrous serpent grew so large that it encircled Midgard (Earth) and held its tail in its mouth. During Ragnarok, the Midgard Serpent and Thor died fighting each other. In one famous myth, while fishing with a giant, Thor catches the Midgard Serpent using the head of a giant ox as bait, but while going for his hammer to kill Jormungandr, the giant cut the line and allowed the serpent to escape.

Hel - Queen of the Underworld, Odin sent her to live in Nifflheim to rule over a portion of the dead. A fearsome wolf Garm, who legend says will kill Tyr during Ragnarok, guards the way to Nifflheim. There, a ship is being constructed from the fingernails of the dead to sail the dead to battle the surviving members of Midgard (Earth) and members of Valhalla during Ragnarok.

Utgaard-Loki - A giant who used a series of illusions to trick and humiliate Thor (and Loki for that matter). Thor believed he had struck him with Mjolnir three times when in fact he had caused indentations in the Earth, could not drain a flagon of mead (because it had the other end dipped into an ocean), could not successfully wrestle the giant's grandmother (who was actually Old Age incarnate), and could not lift but a paw of the giant's cat (which was in fact the Midgard Serpent).

Surt - De facto leader of the fire giants of Muspelheim (one of the nine worlds in Norse Mythology), he waits on Muspelheim's frontier for Ragnarok and when the times comes, he will lead his legions to Midgard, burning all that he sees, killing Freyr (that magic sword that fights by itself sure would've been handy here, but at this point he does not have it), and trampling the Bifrost Rainbow Bridge into dust.

Thrym - This giant was infamous for once having stolen Mjolnir (Thor's Hammer) and using it to try and extort the gods into giving him Freyja as his wife. In the end, Thor dressed up as Freyja (at Loki's suggestion, naturally) to fool the giant in order to get his Mjolnir back.


Roles that may be in the game (1 or more are in the game, all roles listed below are on the side of Good, the forces of Evil will know 1-2 of these roles that are not in the game, and there is one role present in the game which is not listed):

Bragi - God of poetry. Considered to have great fluency of speech and skill of words, also the husband of Idunn.

Idunn - Goddess of eternal youth. Keeper of the golden apples, a bite of which keeps the gods and goddesses eternally young. Wife to Bragi.

Freyr - God of farming and fertility, Freyr is most famous for some of his possessions, including a (sailing) ship that always has a breeze and can fold into his pocket when not in use and a magical sword that can fight by itself. The most famous myth regarding Freya is how he fell in love with a giantess and had to give up his magic sword in exchange for marrying her, which will leave him unable to defend himself against Surt the fire giant during Ragnarok. His sister is Freyja.

Freyja - Sister to Freyr, this goddess was associated with love, beauty, and fertility. She possesses, among other treasures, a feathered cloak that allows her to assume falcon form.

Heimdall - The Watchman of the Gods, Heimdall guards the Bifrost Rainbow Bridge from giants trying to enter Asgard. The most observant of the gods, he is the sworn enemy of Loki and the two are fated to kill each other during Ragnarok.

Frigga - Wife of Odin, mother of Balder, she was foremost among the goddesses. Supposedly possessed the power of prophecy, but did not share her prophecies with others.

Tyr - God of justice and truth. He is most famous for assisting in binding the Fenrir wolf. He agreed to put his right hand in the wolf's mouth to ensure the gods would remain true to free him if he was unable to break Gleipnir. When the Fenrir Wolf was unable to break free and the gods refused to free him, he snapped off Tyr's hand.

Magni - One of Thor's sons. One of the few gods that is to survive Ragnarok and aid in rebuilding after the most famous of the gods have been slain. In the post-Ragnarok world, he wields Mjolnir as his birthright after the Midgard Serpent kills Thor.

Modi - Another of Thor's sons. Also one of the few gods that is to survive Ragnarok and aid in rebuilding after the most famous of the gods have been slain.


Items:

Norse mythology describes a wealth of magical items and items of significance throughout many of the legends. Some of these items will be appearing in this game. Here are the rules relating to these items:

1. Items will initially be distributed randomly (but will not start with whom they belong to).

2. If you possess an item that is not linked to you (for example, Odin receiving Thor's Hammer), you cannot make use of it and must PM me with whom you wish to pass it by the day's deadline. If you possess an item that is linked to you (for example, Thor possessing Thor's Hammer), you do not have to pass it and you unlock specials related to the item. You can only pass an item to a person who is alive (not those in Valhalla for example).

3. If you have an item and either you or the target you pass the item to is killed, or you fail to inform me to whom you're passing the item, the item will be distributed randomly.

4. If you would otherwise possess two or more items (two people pass you items), the one you receive is determined randomly (unless it belongs to you, in which case that is the one selected) and the other is distributed randomly.

5. Under most circumstances, you will not be aware of who passed you an item.

6. There is one hidden rule as relates to items.


Items that are definitely in the game:

Mjolnir (Thor's Hammer) - The most famous of all items in Norse mythology. With this weapon in his grasp, no giant could withstand Thor's ferocity in combat. It was said to never miss its mark and to always return to his grasp when thrown.

Mistletoe - When Loki learned this was the only earthly substance that could harm Balder, he crafted some into an arrow (some say a spear) and guided the blind god Hodor to shoot at Balder with the arrow, slaying the beloved god.


Items that may be in the game (Note: the existence of an item in game does not necessarily mean the player for whom the item belongs is in-game...there could be items in game just to throw you off as to what players are in the game. The reverse is also true, just because a role is in the game does not necessarily mean their corresponding item is in-game).

Freyr's Magic Sword - This powerful weapon was able to fight by itself. Had Freyr not given up with weapon for his giantess bride, he may have been able to defeat Surt during Ragnarok.

Gungnir (Odin's Spear) - This weapon of Odin's was said to never miss its mark.

Gjallarhorn (Heimdall's horn) - The legendary horn that Heimdall was to blow mightily at the onset of Ragnarok. It was said that the blowing of this horn would be heard throughout the nine worlds.

Gleipnir (Fenrir Wolf's fetter) - Created from six impossible ingredients, this thin cord was able to do what its two mightier in appearance predecessors failed to do: keep the Fenrir Wolf bound until Ragnarok.

Giant Oxen Head (Midgard Serpent Bait) - See Thor's entry, but this was essentially used as bait to try and capture the Midgard Serpent.

JAG
08-06-2011, 06:45 AM
also reserved

JAG
08-06-2011, 06:45 AM
also also resserved

JAG
08-06-2011, 06:45 AM
A moose once bit my sister

Signups:

1. Narcizo - (night killed Day 6) --- Spirit in Valhalla
2. Danny - Fenrir Wolf (lynched Day 2)
3. Autumn - (lynched Day 5) --- Spirit in Valhalla
4. J23 - Magni (night killed Day 3)
5. Zinto - Loki (killed by Heimdall Day 6)
6. bhlloy - Tyr (killed by the Fenrir Wolf Day 2)
7. Darth Vilus - Utgaard-Loki (lynched Day 3)
8. Chubby - Thor (night killed Day 5)
9. ntndeacon / The Jackal - (lynched Day 6) --- Spirit in Valhalla
10. mckerney - Heimdall (killed by Loki Day 6)
11. Thomkal - (lynched Day 4) --- Spirit in Valhalla
12. Racer
13. mauboy1
14. Barkeep49
15. Lathum
16. dubb93 - Odin (night killed Day 1)
17. EagleFan
18. MrBug708
19. jeheinz72
20. hoopsguy
21. Telle

Narcizo
08-06-2011, 08:52 AM
Woo - Först! Får man skriva på svenska eller norska?

In.

Danny
08-06-2011, 09:00 AM
Funny I just read the rules to Yggdrasil and am hoping to play it for the first time this weekend.

Oh and In

Autumn
08-06-2011, 10:15 AM
I've only started reading the rules and I'm already psyched!

I'm in like Loki in the form of a horse.

J23
08-06-2011, 10:35 AM
I'm in.

Danny
08-06-2011, 10:39 AM
Oh, and I am voting for the first person with an edit under their post ;)

Zinto
08-06-2011, 12:36 PM
I am in.

Barkeep49
08-06-2011, 01:03 PM
I am tempted to play in the game just because of this rule:

Editing of posts: This is pretty unusual, but I will allow editing of posts if you do so within five minutes of your original post time. I don't feel you should be lynched for a silly typo or feel like you can't fix a simple error you made. For simplicity's sake though, after five minutes from the original post time, please don't edit your post, simply make a new one.


If you look back at early games editing of posts were allowed. There were a couple of minor scandals about editing and so the curtain went down. I've long thought a rule along JAG's line is sensible though I'd have limited editing to typo correction or additional thoughts being added (rather than dola'ing) as people editing out stuff is why the rule was implemented in the first place.

Am going to give serious thought about whether I can play in this.

JAG
08-06-2011, 01:06 PM
Also, anyone who can come up with a more impressive name for this than "The Norse Game" gets -1 to their D1 vote if their name choice is selected.

bhlloy
08-06-2011, 01:13 PM
Awesome idea for a game. I'm in...

You know the first person to edit a post is getting lynched regardless of what the rules say :D

Narcizo
08-06-2011, 01:46 PM
Fimbulvetr (Fimbulwinter - the long winter of conflict before Ragnarok)

Darth Vilus
08-06-2011, 01:52 PM
In

Is ther gonna be a captain america game after this? Is WW jumping on the Avenger bandwagon?

Autumn
08-06-2011, 01:54 PM
Nordic Thunder!

I Say Thee Nay!

Ragnarok Rumble

Giants, Tricksters and Thor (The Cher Edition)

Rumble in Asgard

Wolves in Asgard

Autumn
08-06-2011, 01:55 PM
Is ther gonna be a captain america game after this? Is WW jumping on the Avenger bandwagon?

This seems very doable, and like a great idea.

JAG
08-06-2011, 02:13 PM
In

Is ther gonna be a captain america game after this? Is WW jumping on the Avenger bandwagon?

The funny thing is, I came up with idea a while back, then I saw Abe mention something about going to see the movie Thor, which I didn't even know was coming out. The timing of the game worked out rather coincidentally, as I actually got the idea for the theme from Alan's Clash of the Titans game.

JAG
08-06-2011, 02:21 PM
Changed the editing rule to add an exception:

One exception: please do not edit any posts with a vote in it.

Autumn
08-06-2011, 02:42 PM
I'd suggest making any post containing a vote sacrosanct. That seems too dicey to allow.

JAG
08-06-2011, 02:49 PM
Yeah, probably a better idea. I will make it so.

Chubby
08-06-2011, 02:57 PM
This seems very doable, and like a great idea.

did everyone miss that I'm doing a Marvel game soon? :cry:

I'm in.

ntndeacon
08-06-2011, 03:16 PM
mind you moose bites kan be very nasty

ntndeacon
08-06-2011, 03:16 PM
in

JAG
08-06-2011, 04:00 PM
If the numbers are right, I'd like to have a Monday night start with roles going out, and a Day 1 deadline of Tuesday night (or if the numbers are superb, a day earlier for each).

hoopsguy
08-06-2011, 05:23 PM
did everyone miss that I'm doing a Marvel game soon? :cry:

I'm in.

I had missed that, but would be really excited to see someone else's interpretation on the genre.

This game sounds like it could be a blast. I really wish I had time to be able to play.

mckerney
08-06-2011, 07:10 PM
In.

Thomkal
08-07-2011, 10:54 AM
good theme and an interesting ruleset, guess that means I'm playing.

Narcizo
08-07-2011, 11:52 AM
"Does my Asgård look big in these"

EagleFan
08-07-2011, 11:57 AM
Oh, and I am voting for the first person with an edit under their post ;)

I REALLY want Danny to end up being the first person to edit a post. :)


Is there a starting date set?

JAG
08-07-2011, 12:35 PM
I REALLY want Danny to end up being the first person to edit a post. :)


Is there a starting date set?

No hard date, I'm aiming for sending out roles Monday night. I'm hoping for some more folks so I don't have to modify things too much.

Racer
08-07-2011, 12:45 PM
I like playing in one of these about once a year. How long do these last again? Grad school's starting back up for me in two weeks so the game would need to be winding down by then.

Autumn
08-07-2011, 12:52 PM
If you promise to give yourself up if you're a wolf, Racer, we can end early!

Most games last about six days I would say (not counting weekends), so you should be fine. Glad to see you back!

Racer
08-07-2011, 12:58 PM
Okay count me in.

JAG
08-07-2011, 12:58 PM
Awesome, glad you're giving it a go Racer. It'll be over before two weeks barring a really crazy turn of events.

JAG
08-07-2011, 01:01 PM
Also, I'm leaning towards Wolves in Asgard for a name.

Autumn
08-07-2011, 01:15 PM
Also, I'm leaning towards Wolves in Asgard for a name.

I approve this message.

Barkeep49
08-07-2011, 07:43 PM
I will play as beyond even the edit rule I like the ruleset.

Lathum
08-07-2011, 08:34 PM
I'm in

dubb93
08-07-2011, 09:11 PM
I'll play.

EagleFan
08-07-2011, 11:00 PM
I'll give it a shot. Not sure how active I will be for the next week (have a boat load of stuff that I need to finish up this week to avoid what would be a month long trip to India).

Autumn
08-07-2011, 11:18 PM
This is looking more like it. I'm looking forward to starting this one.

MrBug708
08-08-2011, 01:57 AM
Ok

Danny
08-08-2011, 04:38 AM
A moose once bit my sister

Signups:

1. Narcizo
2. Danny
3. Autumn
4. J23
5. Zinto
6. bhlloy
7. Darth Vilus
8. Chubby
9. ntndeacon
10. mckerney
11. Thomkal
12. Racer
13. mauboy1
14. Barkeep49
15. Lathum
16. dubb93
17. EagleFan
18. MrBug708
19.
20.


Look at all those edits

Vote JAG

Autumn
08-08-2011, 09:43 AM
18's perfect, let's go!

JAG
08-08-2011, 10:38 AM
Roles are going out tonight for sure, probably not until later (between 9-10 CST) as I have the kids by myself for the evening, so still a little time to join for anyone out there who hasn't yet and wants to.

mauchow
08-08-2011, 11:17 AM
Post!

Edited to add this line.

jeheinz72
08-08-2011, 12:04 PM
Inn.

:party:

hoopsguy
08-08-2011, 12:11 PM
I'm weak and can't resist what looks like a fun game.

In, with expectations of low post counts and miserable villager flailing while trying to catch up in last hour before deadline each day.

jeheinz72
08-08-2011, 12:11 PM
Hoops, you're such a follower.

JAG
08-08-2011, 12:20 PM
I'm weak and can't resist what looks like a fun game.

In, with expectations of low post counts and miserable villager flailing while trying to catch up in last hour before deadline each day.

:popcorn:

Really glad to see the turnout including a couple I haven't seen for a while.

jeheinz72
08-08-2011, 12:21 PM
What, 16-month breaks aren't normal?

hoopsguy
08-08-2011, 12:30 PM
Hoops, you're such a follower.

You should be able to say the same thing after each of my votes this game, I expect.

I'm pretty lousy at playing inactive werewolf, but this looks like it could be a fun game so I'll try to pull my weight.

Edit - I'm just here for the ketchup porn.

jeheinz72
08-08-2011, 12:35 PM
Edit - I'm just here for the ketchup porn.

Yeah buddy...

http://adsoftheworld.com/files/images/arielKETCHUP.jpg

Telle
08-08-2011, 02:07 PM
I'll play.

Passacaglia
08-08-2011, 02:09 PM
What's the Mountain deadline? I'll play, as long as it's anything other than 8 PM.

Just kidding, it's going to be a busy couple weeks for me (including being out of town for a 4-day weekend), so I'm out. Sucks that I'm going to miss the ketchup porn. I told JAG that I would be an alternate, but after seeing that picture, the idea of sloppy seconds really doesn't thrill me.

JAG
08-08-2011, 02:54 PM
Minor rule update to convey what I meant, not what I had written and a small section regarding resolution of orders:

Conditional Orders: I will accept conditional orders. The latest submitted orders are the ones I will process for you.

Processing of Orders: In the event that multiple orders somehow conflict, the orders I receive earliest will take precedence (for example, someone who submits their final orders at 1pm vs. 4pm). The lynch is always the first action to be processed, the night kill is always the final action to be processed

EagleFan
08-08-2011, 03:07 PM
Don't those two things conflict?

Or (thought of this just before I hit reply)...

To use my last game as an example. If DPR were to scan the night kill target you would process those night actions in the order they came in. If the DPR scan was first it would carry out first and then the NK would. If the NK cam in first it would happen and DPR would have been SOL?

Autumn
08-08-2011, 03:13 PM
Look at these numbers! I'm going to conservatively estimate 16 wolves in this game, or 15 and a sorceror.

JAG
08-08-2011, 03:51 PM
Don't those two things conflict?

Or (thought of this just before I hit reply)...

To use my last game as an example. If DPR were to scan the night kill target you would process those night actions in the order they came in. If the DPR scan was first it would carry out first and then the NK would. If the NK cam in first it would happen and DPR would have been SOL?

The night kill will always be processed last (other than potential fallout from it, like items getting randomly distributed as a result). The order will go:

1. Player with most votes will be lynched
2. Player actions in the order in which I receive them (earlier processed first)
3. Night kill
4. Any fallout from NK.

mauchow
08-08-2011, 06:08 PM
hi heinz

JAG
08-08-2011, 06:12 PM
If the kids play nicely, I will try to get roles out a little earlier than I mentioned this evening.

JAG
08-08-2011, 07:24 PM
Roles have been sent out (please let me know if you did not receive a role PM).

The game has begun. Day 1 deadline is Tuesday at 10pm EST. Good luck everyone!

Autumn
08-08-2011, 07:40 PM
First.

I am rather bummed, I wanted an awesome role!

hoopsguy
08-08-2011, 07:46 PM
Ho hum - vanilla villager.

Lathum
08-08-2011, 09:03 PM
checking in

Vote Heinze

welcome back

Racer
08-08-2011, 09:17 PM
Villager checking in.

Racer
08-08-2011, 09:17 PM
First.

I am rather bummed, I wanted an awesome role!

Me too.

hoopsguy
08-08-2011, 09:38 PM
checking in

Vote Heinze

welcome back

That is so bush league. You know he isn't around this time of night to be able to defend himself. What if he has a major role? C'mon, you are better than that.

Oh wait, he has 23.5 hours to show up. Carry on.

Would it have been funnier if I had used the edit option?

EagleFan
08-08-2011, 09:46 PM
Checking in.

EagleFan
08-08-2011, 09:47 PM
vote Autumn

He seems way too eager.... :)

Autumn
08-08-2011, 09:50 PM
vote Autumn

He seems way too eager.... :)

Gotta get my kicks in before Ragnarok ... or lynching!

Barkeep49
08-08-2011, 10:26 PM
That is so bush league. You know he isn't around this time of night to be able to defend himself. What if he has a major role? C'mon, you are better than that.

Oh wait, he has 23.5 hours to show up. Carry on.

Would it have been funnier if I had used the edit option?
Yes

Barkeep49
08-08-2011, 10:27 PM
I wanted to be the first person to edit a post so I was going to vote Autumn for beating me to it. But since EagleFan beat me to voting for autumn and I don't want to be the first person to vote twice on someone

Vote Eaglefan

dubb93
08-08-2011, 11:03 PM
Checking in before I hop off for bed. Will be around mid-dayish tomorrow.

hoopsguy
08-08-2011, 11:10 PM
Off-topic: I'm reading the "Song of Ice and Fire" series right now and came across a quote that seemed appropriate for our little forum.

"Always keep your foes confused. If they are never certain who you are or what you want, they cannot know what you are like to do next. Sometimes the best way to baffle them is to make moves that have no purpose, or even seem to work against you. Rember that when you come to play the game.

What ... what game?

The only game. The game of werewolf."

OK, I edited one word from the original text. And that is as close to editing as I plan to get this game. You guys can all have your fancy edit button this game, I'll be playing old school.

Danny
08-08-2011, 11:25 PM
Real nice signup list for this one. I need to read the rules in more detail, but usually in a 21 player game there are 5 wolves.

Danny
08-08-2011, 11:29 PM
Took one post for an edit. I'm watching you Autumn!

ntndeacon
08-08-2011, 11:30 PM
Danny is being awful quiet, less than half the posts I have is suspicious.

Vote Danny

ntndeacon
08-08-2011, 11:32 PM
Down with Quiet Norsemen

Danny
08-08-2011, 11:34 PM
It's ok, I will have 100 posts before the rise of the sun tomorrow. Is Crimson playing? That makes it easier to try and out do him.

Danny
08-08-2011, 11:34 PM
And I fully plan to never use the edit button and only make new posts each time I want to add something.

Danny
08-08-2011, 11:34 PM
Even a typo deserves a new posts explaining it.

ntndeacon
08-09-2011, 12:06 AM
Even a typo deserves a new posts explaining it.

probably so, but it is such a rarety to get to edit, that at least on day one we will have a few edited posts for the Valhalla of it.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 01:17 AM
Vote Jackal

Pretending he's not in the game is not going to save him from THE WRATH OF NARK!

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 01:21 AM
Unvote Jackal
Vote Heinz

Being away for 2 years will not save him from THE WRATH OF NARK! Revenge is a dish best served.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 01:21 AM
Seriously we all have to pick up our post-boosting games with Crimson not in the game.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 01:28 AM
Not knowing what powers the roles have makes it difficult to post-boost, errrr, I mean analyze possible tactics and try to pin down how many wolves there are. So, that's not very good then.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 01:30 AM
OK Final offer

Unvote Heinz
Vote Lathum

I don't think he's had any day one votes since I came back which is just silly, given the danger he poses. And I think I've gone through all the people who don't post much recently.

MrBug708
08-09-2011, 01:35 AM
Checking in!

mckerney
08-09-2011, 01:47 AM
Checking in and going over the rules.

JAG
08-09-2011, 03:04 AM
Danny is being awful quiet, less than half the posts I have is suspicious.

Vote Danny

Last edited by ntndeacon : Yesterday at 11:30 PM. Reason: I cant spell quit
*


This is a good opportunity to remind folks not to edit any posts with a vote in them. This is the only vote in an edited post I will accept.

mckerney
08-09-2011, 03:06 AM
Vote ntndeacon

Already breaking the rules. :rant:

JAG
08-09-2011, 03:15 AM
Day 1 Voting (as of Post 94):

jeheinz72 1: Lathum (67)
EagleFan 1: Barkeep49 (75)
Danny 1: ntndeacon (80)
Lathum 1: Narcizo (90)
ntndeacon 1: mckerney (94)
*Autumn 0: EagleFan (72)

* - Autumn has -1 to his D1 voting for winning the game-naming contest.

Chubby
08-09-2011, 04:11 AM
checking in before heading to work.

vanilla villager, will decide where to throw my day 1 vote when I get home from work.

hoopsguy
08-09-2011, 06:03 AM
Two comments:

1.) I'm just a vanilla villager, and I will have limited time this game. If there comes a point, either today or later in the week, where a decision needs to be made to try and avoid hitting a role then go ahead and turn the votes towards me. It will minimize any negative impact on the realm.

2.) I'm not sure I'll be around tonight so I need to get a vote in. This one is driven by the free agency period in the NFL.

VOTE EAGLEFAN

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 06:35 AM
Checking in, just a villager. And here I had been hoping that ye gods of random would shine upon me something fun. This sucks, I'm a horrible vanilla villager.

No vote yet as I'll be around and reading all day.

Oh and Hi Mau, and Hi Lathum (thanks for the vote, someone had to re-pop the cherry I reckon)

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 06:36 AM
Unvote Jackal
Vote Heinz

Being away for 2 years will not save him from THE WRATH OF NARK! Revenge is a dish best served.

Hehe, still bitter over that chess game? :D

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 07:25 AM
No, of course not. That was over three years ago - that would be sad and pathetic and ....

you utter, utter, utter, UTTER bost ....

:rant: :rant: :rant:

Barkeep49
08-09-2011, 07:53 AM
What does bost mean?

Barkeep49
08-09-2011, 07:54 AM
Also I'm glad to see some active posters in this game. I know that I will likely have a lower post count than in the last game because I am more likely to edit in a thought which occurs to me immediately after posting rather than posting a dola. This post being the exception.

mauchow
08-09-2011, 08:09 AM
Villager checking in.

My participation will be up and down depending on what is going on at the office.

Passacaglia
08-09-2011, 08:22 AM
No, of course not. That was over three years ago - that would be sad and pathetic and ....

you utter, utter, utter, UTTER bost ....

:rant: :rant: :rant:

haha don't listen to him [strikethrough]heinz[/strikehrough] bost -- would you believe he actually mentioned Chess in the last game we played in? :p

Autumn
08-09-2011, 08:36 AM
Post, post away fools. You'll find it only leads them to not believe that you're the princess.

Autumn
08-09-2011, 08:36 AM
And just because vote early vote often

<b>vote chubby</b>

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 08:44 AM
What does bost mean?

I was going to say bostord (less offensive form of bastard) but my mouth starting froth from suppressed rage.

I've actually mentioned the Chess game in pretty much every game I've played. It left deep psychological scars. Imagine how it would be if we'd actually lost.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 08:45 AM
haha don't listen to him [strikethrough]heinz[/strikehrough] bost -- would you believe he actually mentioned Chess in the last game we played in? :p

Nice bit of editing there Passa.

J23
08-09-2011, 08:47 AM
Villager checking in.

I think I might have to go read through the Chess thread to see why Narc can't let it go.

EagleFan
08-09-2011, 08:56 AM
ntn is being awfully talkative this game....


:D

ntndeacon
08-09-2011, 08:56 AM
This is a good opportunity to remind folks not to edit any posts with a vote in them. This is the only vote in an edited post I will accept.

oops . Sorry about tht JAG

ntndeacon
08-09-2011, 08:58 AM
ntn is being awfully talkative this game....


:D

It is your imagination, Eagle.

EagleFan
08-09-2011, 08:59 AM
Talkative and a rule breaker.... need to look into that... :)

Plus he keeps staying even with me in post count, can;t have that. :D

EagleFan
08-09-2011, 09:01 AM
That actually makes me feel good about ntn, early run of posts. I would think he wouldn't want to draw that kind of early attention as a wolf (with the exception being the cunning, but I probably need to read the rules to see if there are normal wolf type roles this game).

EagleFan
08-09-2011, 09:02 AM
Of course I could just be over analyzing already in the game.

Oh well, back to work and will try to check in around lunch time.

J23
08-09-2011, 09:10 AM
Isn't overanalyzing part of day1?

bhlloy
08-09-2011, 09:11 AM
Checking in this morning, don't see anyone worth throwing a second vote on so I'm going to

vote Chubby

bhlloy
08-09-2011, 09:12 AM
sob... missed an entire page of posts. Oh well looks like I just threw a second vote on someone even though I said I wasn't going to. Vote me.

Autumn
08-09-2011, 09:17 AM
Quite a run on Chubby

lol

ntndeacon
08-09-2011, 09:28 AM
Talkative and a rule breaker.... need to look into that... :)

Plus he keeps staying even with me in post count, can;t have that. :D

now you are making it hard with this triple posting!

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 09:28 AM
I was going to say bostord (less offensive form of bastard) but my mouth starting froth from suppressed rage.

I've actually mentioned the Chess game in pretty much every game I've played. It left deep psychological scars. Imagine how it would be if we'd actually lost.

Yeah that is the one catch to the severe mindf*ck I dropped in that game, it was all for naught.

Good times though!

JAG
08-09-2011, 09:30 AM
Day 1 Voting (as of Post 121):

EagleFan 2: Barkeep49 (75), hoopsguy (97)
Chubby 2: Autumn (106), bhlloy (117)
jeheinz72 1: Lathum (67)
Danny 1: ntndeacon (80)
Lathum 1: Narcizo (90)
ntndeacon 1: mckerney (94)
*Autumn 0: EagleFan (72)

* - Autumn has -1 to his D1 voting for winning the game-naming contest.

JAG
08-09-2011, 09:33 AM
oops . Sorry about tht JAG

Now HERE'S the one you should've edited...;)

Zinto
08-09-2011, 09:34 AM
Hey everybody

I have to love day one since I never know who to vote for. I think for now on I am going to draw a name from a hat :)

Autumn
08-09-2011, 09:46 AM
I think for now on I am going to draw a name from a hat :)

What do you think the rest of us do? ;-)

Lathum
08-09-2011, 09:52 AM
Unvote Heinze

was never going to vote him, all though would be a great place for a wolf to hide a vote since he has zero chance of being lynched.

Vote Danny

Barkeep49
08-09-2011, 09:56 AM
What do you think the rest of us do? ;-)
Find ridiculous reasons to vote for people.

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 10:07 AM
Why Danny, Lathum?

dubb93
08-09-2011, 10:20 AM
Also I'm glad to see some active posters in this game. I know that I will likely have a lower post count than in the last game because I am more likely to edit in a thought which occurs to me immediately after posting rather than posting a dola. This post being the exception.

I hope you don't edit anything too important into a post as if I already read it once I am unlikely to go back and read it again unless I'm either

1. Completely confused.

or

2. Trying to make a case for/against you.

So I would encourage you not to edit important details into posts.

Danny
08-09-2011, 10:23 AM
No one has to worry about me editing posts.

Danny
08-09-2011, 10:24 AM
I would much rather make several posts strung together

Danny
08-09-2011, 10:24 AM
I type it, I post it, it stays for GOOD

Danny
08-09-2011, 10:25 AM
I also will probably not even bother proofreading my posts.

MrBug708
08-09-2011, 10:25 AM
Vote - Zinto

Racer
08-09-2011, 10:25 AM
That actually makes me feel good about ntn, early run of posts. I would think he wouldn't want to draw that kind of early attention as a wolf (with the exception being the cunning, but I probably need to read the rules to see if there are normal wolf type roles this game).

Is ntndeacon really being that talkative though? As someone who rarely plays, I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary with him.

Danny
08-09-2011, 10:27 AM
That actually makes me feel good about ntn, early run of posts. I would think he wouldn't want to draw that kind of early attention as a wolf (with the exception being the cunning, but I probably need to read the rules to see if there are normal wolf type roles this game).

It doesn't make me feel good or bad about him. ntn, especially lately I believe has seen a lot of early votes. He may be trying to be more talkative to avoid that. He would want to avoid that as a villager or wolf, so I don't see it as meaning much at this point.

Barkeep49
08-09-2011, 10:30 AM
I hope you don't edit anything too important into a post as if I already read it once I am unlikely to go back and read it again unless I'm either

1. Completely confused.

or

2. Trying to make a case for/against you.

So I would encourage you not to edit important details into posts.
I will only edit right away. So don't worry too much.*







I reserve the right to lynch dubb later for not reading something I've edited in. I forfeit this right for all other players

J23
08-09-2011, 10:31 AM
I don't think there's much that anyone does on day1 that would really say if they're a wolf or not. I think it's just dumb luck if we manage to nab a wolf, and then try to find reasons why we were so smart after the fact.

MrBug708
08-09-2011, 10:32 AM
I'm disappointed CF isn't playing. He always makes it interesting

Barkeep49
08-09-2011, 10:32 AM
I don't think there's much that anyone does on day1 that would really say if they're a wolf or not. I think it's just dumb luck if we manage to nab a wolf, and then try to find reasons why we were so smart after the fact.
This except I think it's really dumb luck because wolves can more easily not vote for wolves on Day 1.

bhlloy
08-09-2011, 10:34 AM
This except I think it's really dumb luck because wolves can more easily not vote for wolves on Day 1.

I think the key is at least having enough votes spread out that you have one on the block late in the day. Sure you probably aren't going to win that battle on day 1, but the voting history and who moves when and where is absolutely invaluable down the road.

Which is the only reason it drives me nuts when we have a couple of candidates on day 1 and everyone jumps all over them because they are overanalyzing things. But we seem to be doing a really nice job of avoiding that this time.

Danny
08-09-2011, 10:36 AM
I also reread the rules and this will be a tough one at the start because we have no information regarding anything.

Racer
08-09-2011, 10:37 AM
I don't think there's much that anyone does on day1 that would really say if they're a wolf or not. I think it's just dumb luck if we manage to nab a wolf, and then try to find reasons why we were so smart after the fact.

I remember in one of the games I was a wolf in that late vote swings when there is little vote movement can be a good thing for the villagers. I think the logic of the person who led the charge against a wolf late on day one was that when the vote is static late on day one it means it's unlikely a wolf is in danger.

Barkeep49
08-09-2011, 10:42 AM
I remember in one of the games I was a wolf in that late vote swings when there is little vote movement can be a good thing for the villagers. I think the logic of the person who led the charge against a wolf late on day one was that when the vote is static late on day one it means it's unlikely a wolf is in danger.
I've never quite agreed with this logic.

J23
08-09-2011, 10:43 AM
I was more refering to the "why'd you vote XXX" questions that come up day1. Noone is going to have a good reason to vote for someone. Some people don't get votes simply because they haven't played in a while, died early a lot recently, or are thought of as a good villager, or various reasons.

I definately think there is a lot to be learned by voting records for day1, just like every other day (that's not a runaway that is).

Danny
08-09-2011, 10:46 AM
I've never quite agreed with this logic.

Yeah, I think it really depends, but personally I move much more around deadlines as a villager. As a wolf, especially early in the game, it's not worth it to risk saving your buddy for a day and likely link the two of you together. Especially when there is a seer out there who can scan said buddy.

Racer
08-09-2011, 10:47 AM
I think the key is at least having enough votes spread out that you have one on the block late in the day. Sure you probably aren't going to win that battle on day 1, but the voting history and who moves when and where is absolutely invaluable down the road.

Which is the only reason it drives me nuts when we have a couple of candidates on day 1 and everyone jumps all over them because they are overanalyzing things. But we seem to be doing a really nice job of avoiding that this time.

Good point. I was going to place a third vote on EagleFan for his ntnlogic, but that seems dumb to hold that against him.

Vote Thomkal

For being the ring leader in the other tribe and making it to the final three in Autumn's Survivor game. :)

Barkeep49
08-09-2011, 10:48 AM
Yeah, I think it really depends, but personally I move much more around deadlines as a villager. As a wolf, especially early in the game, it's not worth it to risk saving your buddy for a day and likely link the two of you together. Especially when there is a seer out there who can scan said buddy.
I do think there is logic to this which is why I've generally tried to standardize my play in terms of my willingness to switch as either a villager or wolf. So, in other words, read nothing into my play, but for other people I think this is true.

Thomkal
08-09-2011, 10:56 AM
hey guys, just checking in to let you know I likely won't be posting till late afternoon as I have a lot on my plate right now. (and no JAG that doesn't mean playing my character in the current Crawl comp. ;) )

And Racer, the game already got the ultimate revenge on me, I really thought I had a great chance of winning till that Final Council came along...:)

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 11:47 AM
Vote Racer

Zinto
08-09-2011, 11:52 AM
I think the key is at least having enough votes spread out that you have one on the block late in the day. Sure you probably aren't going to win that battle on day 1, but the voting history and who moves when and where is absolutely invaluable down the road.

Which is the only reason it drives me nuts when we have a couple of candidates on day 1 and everyone jumps all over them because they are overanalyzing things. But we seem to be doing a really nice job of avoiding that this time.


The only thing I would say is that having the vote to far spread out will end in there being a few throw away votes that do nothing for the analysis down the line. It is the toughest thing to get a sense of what someone was thinking if they have their vote on someone who was never a real candidate.

Danny
08-09-2011, 11:59 AM
I think three candidates is usually a good number for day 1. Its early now though, so dont need to worry about condensing yet.

Racer
08-09-2011, 12:00 PM
Why Danny, Lathum?

Vote Racer

Why me? :)

Lathum
08-09-2011, 12:05 PM
Why Danny, Lathum?

Figure since I unvoted someone from california I may as well replace it with another vote fort a calafornia guy

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 12:06 PM
Why me? :)

Mainly because you were on, so I could see how you reacted.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 12:07 PM
Villager checking in.

I think I might have to go read through the Chess thread to see why Narc can't let it go.

It won't do justice to it because most of the action was going on in PMs. Everyone had a PM partner and my was Heinz who was also a wolf. To be honest I managed to do my own head in, Heinz didn't really need to do much. The annoying thing is that there were loads of clues that he was a wolf and some times I saw them but then my over-active mind jumped to something else.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 12:08 PM
I think three candidates is usually a good number for day 1. Its early now though, so dont need to worry about condensing yet.

Three or four is a good number, I think it's beneficial to avoid a two-horse race as well, although things normally boil down to that in the end.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 12:10 PM
It is the toughest thing to get a sense of what someone was thinking if they have their vote on someone who was never a real candidate.

Which is why people should go a reason for voting. Regarding Lathum I feel that lots of games of playing crazy-arse villagers has meant that he's avoided votes a lot and he's a dangerous wolf to let slide through games as he proved last time round.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 12:16 PM
Yeah, I think it really depends, but personally I move much more around deadlines as a villager. As a wolf, especially early in the game, it's not worth it to risk saving your buddy for a day and likely link the two of you together. Especially when there is a seer out there who can scan said buddy.

Last few games (at least) we seem to be getting to the stage where it's viewed more suspicious to vote a wolf than anything else in the first couple of days. Which I still think is taking things too far.

EagleFan
08-09-2011, 12:21 PM
Day 1 Voting (as of Post 121):

EagleFan 2: Barkeep49 (75), hoopsguy (97)
Chubby 2: Autumn (106), bhlloy (117)
jeheinz72 1: Lathum (67)
Danny 1: ntndeacon (80)
Lathum 1: Narcizo (90)
ntndeacon 1: mckerney (94)
*Autumn 0: EagleFan (72)

* - Autumn has -1 to his D1 voting for winning the game-naming contest.

His vote is -1 for winning the naming contest, cool. :)


Edit: neverrmind, was thinking he gained an extra vote for winning, guess I should read a little better.

Danny
08-09-2011, 12:22 PM
Figure since I unvoted someone from california I may as well replace it with another vote fort a calafornia guy

He's jealous of our weather.

Danny
08-09-2011, 12:23 PM
I should vote Autumn just to eliminate that freebie.

EagleFan
08-09-2011, 12:28 PM
Is ntndeacon really being that talkative though? As someone who rarely plays, I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary with him.

He probably has more post in day one in this game than he has in a week in some games. :)

Racer
08-09-2011, 12:29 PM
I should vote Autumn just to eliminate that freebie.

Does the freebie last just today or until the first day he ends with one or more votes (i.e. he'll start at negative one each day if no one has previously ended the day with their vote on him)?

EagleFan
08-09-2011, 12:32 PM
unvote Autumn

vote Chubby

Early self defense move.

JAG
08-09-2011, 12:45 PM
Day 1 Voting (as of Post 164):

Chubby 3: Autumn (106), bhlloy (117), EagleFan (164)
EagleFan 2: Barkeep49 (75), hoopsguy (97)
Danny 2: ntndeacon (80), Lathum (126)
Lathum 1: Narcizo (90)
ntndeacon 1: mckerney (94)
Racer 1: jeheinz72 (150)
Zinto 1: MrBug708 (134)
Thomkal 1: Racer (147)
*Autumn -1:

* - Autumn has -1 to his D1 voting for winning the game-naming contest.

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 12:47 PM
He's jealous of our weather.

Heh, yeah though I moved to Fresno, so I don't know if I'd be jealous of my weather anymore!

Danny
08-09-2011, 12:52 PM
unvote Autumn

vote Chubby

Early self defense move.

Hmmm, this seems a bit early

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 12:54 PM
unvote Autumn

vote Chubby

Early self defense move.

Odd. If you push Chubby as the leader with you in second place won't that just mean he votes you when he turns up. And a little bit early to talk about self-defence moves - even if it's an early self-defence vote.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 12:55 PM
Dun-dun-durrrr! Everyone looks at Autumn shiftily.

Zinto
08-09-2011, 12:55 PM
Hmm I think I am going to vote Lathum. I don't have a particular reason other then I want to put a second vote on someone and I have never played with Racer so I am not voting for him and NTN does not deserve to be punished for actually posting.

Vote Lathum

bhlloy
08-09-2011, 12:59 PM
That's a very odd move EF, but I don't think there is a chance in hell you make that move as a wolf. Way way too early on D1 to get defensive though.

dubb93
08-09-2011, 01:04 PM
I dont feel like EF's move gives me a feeling about him either way. I dont think voting to protect himself early on day one, a day where bandwagons are likely, is a tell about his allegiance either way.

Autumn
08-09-2011, 01:20 PM
Way to make me look bad, EF.

<b>unvote chubby
vote eaglefan</b>

hah

Autumn
08-09-2011, 01:24 PM
So looking back over the roles I find I don't want to speculate much on the villager roles, as it seems it would only help the wolves. Loki is the only bad guy we're sure of, and it seems clear he'll be a cunning wolf. I would guess we have the Serpent in the game most certainly, and Fenrir. I would bet on Hel as well, and that there will be all sorts of extra wrinkles involving Valhalla, Hel, and those who die in this game. We'll better know tonight how that might work.

J23
08-09-2011, 01:41 PM
unvote Autumn

vote Chubby

Early self defense move.

Hmmm, this seems a bit early

It also seems quite defensive!

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 01:42 PM
It also seems quite defensive!

I ROFL'd

Telle
08-09-2011, 02:03 PM
Finally checking in.

vote Autumn

Not like anyone's going to believe him when he claims to be a villager anyways ;)

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 02:06 PM
I guess we should be trying to track what happens with the items but at the moment I don't think there's anything to be gained by anyone saying publically who's got what and who's passing it on to whom and all that malarkey - but it might be useful to create a paper trail to follow on later in the game. Or it might not be. Who knows?

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 02:11 PM
Looks like my candidate has two votes which is all I can ask for at this stage so I'll be a-leaving my vote where it is.

Lathum
08-09-2011, 02:17 PM
I'm ok with being lynched, I am just a vanilla villager so no greatr loss.

Of course, I could also be the brutal wolf, at which point I would take Zinto with me, so unless you want to take thaty risk Zinto I suggest unvoting me.

dubb93
08-09-2011, 02:19 PM
With Autumn at -1 already I question the logic in voting for him when that is combined with the fact that we seem to already have plenty of other candidates that are more likely to be lynched today. Seems very much a throwaway vote IMO.

dubb93
08-09-2011, 02:21 PM
I'm ok with being lynched

This can't be true. I've never known Lathum to be OK with being lynched.

Of course, I could also be the brutal wolf, at which point I would take Zinto with me, so unless you want to take thaty risk Zinto I suggest unvoting me.

There we go. Much more like Lathum. :D

Telle
08-09-2011, 02:21 PM
And the grand majority of the other votes aren't throwaway votes?

dubb93
08-09-2011, 02:33 PM
And the grand majority of the other votes aren't throwaway votes?

The grand majority of votes atleast gave someone a vote. Autumn still has no votes ;)

Danny
08-09-2011, 02:33 PM
Not to the degree that yours is. And many were not throwaway votes when they were made. Yours just put Autumn down to 0 votes. It really was not a good vote.

Telle
08-09-2011, 02:40 PM
So what? Nobody else got bitched at for voting for Autumn earlier. And I'm pretty sure I didn't write my vote in stone either.

J23
08-09-2011, 02:40 PM
I think a vote on one of the returning players is probably more of a throwaway vote than a vote on Autumn day1. At least there is some chance that there is traction on getting Autumn lynched, while I can't imagine most people will lynch players that play once every few months (or longer) on day1.

Also, didn't you say something about wanting to vote autumn earlier today Danny? (Yes, I realise you were probably not going to actually do it, but still.)

Danny
08-09-2011, 02:47 PM
I think a vote on one of the returning players is probably more of a throwaway vote than a vote on Autumn day1. At least there is some chance that there is traction on getting Autumn lynched, while I can't imagine most people will lynch players that play once every few months (or longer) on day1.

Also, didn't you say something about wanting to vote autumn earlier today Danny? (Yes, I realise you were probably not going to actually do it, but still.)

It;s a later in the day now and we should be concentrating votes, not bringing in a new candidate who is going to be a throw away. There were some other throw away votes, but they were early and primarily done as a joke.

I was joking about voting Autumn. I'd almost never vote Autumn day 1. He is one of the most active players and a strong villager. If I am going to make a random vote (which day 1 is usually), it wouldn't be for someone like that.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 02:55 PM
Gah! Isn't about this stage that a villager says something vaguely ill-advised (Paging DV or mau) and everyone piles on to them until everyone else piles onto the player with the next most votes? Let's get some action going here.

Telle
08-09-2011, 02:56 PM
Gah! Isn't about this stage that a villager says something vaguely ill-advised (Paging DV or mau) and everyone piles on to them until everyone else piles onto the player with the next most votes? Let's get some action going here.

Well according to my notes, Darth Vilus hasn't checked in yet... so maybe that's just yet to come.

Racer
08-09-2011, 03:01 PM
It seems like a lot of people haven't voted or even checked in yet.

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 03:01 PM
"Song of Ice and Fire" series right

I've just read the first book and this Martin bloke - he has an interest in English history right? I know next to nothing about him but the situation is really a Richard III apologists version of the end of the War of Roses (to a certain extent). Obviously don't want to spoilerise but King Robert IS Edward IV. Eddard Stark is the Richard III apologists Richard III and the Queen = Elisabeth Woodard. And other stuff that's spoilery.

Just had to get that out of my system. Carry on as you were.

Danny
08-09-2011, 03:02 PM
Gah! Isn't about this stage that a villager says something vaguely ill-advised (Paging DV or mau) and everyone piles on to them until everyone else piles onto the player with the next most votes? Let's get some action going here.

Or DaddyTorgo, is he playing?

Chubby
08-09-2011, 03:02 PM
home from work

random.org picked Telle to be my 1st vote but the run on me was suspicious. I don't put any stock in autumn's vote as it was the 1st one.

Who I'd like to vote for has no votes yet they are pinging me, unless someone else votes them I won't go there since I agree consolidating votes is the best bet.

For now:
Vote Lathum

nowhere set in stone but trying to consolidate the vote

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 03:05 PM
but the run on me was suspicious. I don't put any stock in autumn's vote as it was the 1st one.

Who I'd like to vote for has no votes yet they are pinging me, unless someone else votes them I won't go there since I agree consolidating votes is the best bet.

For now:
Vote Lathum


Bah! Way to disprove my argument about EagleFan.

How is the "run" on you suspicious at this stage?

Chubby
08-09-2011, 03:07 PM
Bah! Way to disprove my argument about EagleFan.

How is the "run" on you suspicious at this stage?

I just always feel ganged up on because I work during the day and can't get on (i used to be able to get on during lunch break but that's not possible) so i'm sure it's me just being paranoid but I feel like I always get targetted day 1 /shrug

Narcizo
08-09-2011, 03:08 PM
Or DaddyTorgo, is he playing?

St. Cronin was the worst for me. It probably didn't help that the first five games I played with him he was a wolf but always after that I got the strongest wolfy vibes off of him. In fact he was partially responsible for the Chess farago because that was the first game I played where he was a villager but it just didn't compute because he had to be a wolf.

Chubby
08-09-2011, 03:10 PM
oh and, i am by no means saying I am not looking at EF. I just don't think it's where I want my vote right now as I'm not trying to lead a runaway since it could have really been a defensive move and not a wolfy move.

Racer
08-09-2011, 03:15 PM
Looks like my candidate has two votes which is all I can ask for at this stage so I'll be a-leaving my vote where it is.

Why be set in stone already for the first day? Just curious. As the only person currently on Thomkal, I will be moving my vote at some point.

Telle
08-09-2011, 03:15 PM
It seems like a lot of people haven't voted or even checked in yet.

DV is the only one not to check in yet. And we're missing 8 of 21 votes at this point.

Racer
08-09-2011, 03:16 PM
Ditto, I should say I will definitely move my vote at some point now. Even if other people voted for Thomkal, I still might move it.

dubb93
08-09-2011, 03:24 PM
I haven't vote yet.

Lathum
08-09-2011, 03:53 PM
home from work

random.org picked Telle to be my 1st vote but the run on me was suspicious. I don't put any stock in autumn's vote as it was the 1st one.

Who I'd like to vote for has no votes yet they are pinging me, unless someone else votes them I won't go there since I agree consolidating votes is the best bet.

For now:
Vote Lathum

nowhere set in stone but trying to consolidate the vote

Why would you use random.org, then when the person it came up with isn't to your liking you claim you want to consolodate the vote? You also say you have someone you would like to vote.

So in one post you use random.org, claim you have a candidate in mind, then vote neither of those and claim you want to consolodate.

That all stinks.

Unvote Danny
Vote Chubby

Telle
08-09-2011, 03:53 PM
unvote Autumn
vote Danny

Consolidating...

Darth Vilus
08-09-2011, 03:54 PM
Sorry, i overslept. i went to bed pretty late yesterday, my bad

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 03:55 PM
Can anyone rock a vote count?

I'm also dubious of the "I used random" but then not. Reads weird.

Telle
08-09-2011, 03:58 PM
Votes as of post #207:

2 - EagleFan - Barkeep (75), Autumn (174)
2 - Danny - ntndeacon (80), Telle (205)
3 - Lathum - Narcizo (90), Zinto (171), Chubby (195)
1 - ntndeacon - mckerney (94)
3 - Chubby - bhlloy (117), EagleFan (165), Lathum (204)
1 - Zinto - MrBug (134)
1 - Thomkal - Racer (147)

Darth Vilus
08-09-2011, 04:01 PM
& candidates already lol, this is gonna be fun

Darth Vilus
08-09-2011, 04:02 PM
i meant 7

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 04:02 PM
Thanks Telle, though I have my vote on Racer and it's not listed, FYI

Telle
08-09-2011, 04:04 PM
Thanks Telle, though I have my vote on Racer and it's not listed, FYI

Ahh.. I must have missed it. Do you recall what post # it is?

Danny
08-09-2011, 04:05 PM
unvote Autumn
vote Danny

Consolidating...

Go back to your throw away vote lol

Thomkal
08-09-2011, 04:06 PM
Ditto, I should say I will definitely move my vote at some point now. Even if other people voted for Thomkal, I still might move it.

For which Thomkal would be thankful. ;) Just catching up now in the short time I have before dinner.

Edit: yeah to being able to edit a typo!

Danny
08-09-2011, 04:08 PM
At this point I am leaning toward Eaglefan with my vote, but I am going to hold off for a bit longer.

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 04:09 PM
Ahh.. I must have missed it. Do you recall what post # it is?

150 thanks!

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 04:11 PM
I'm about to split and I don't see my fringe vote doing much good.

Unvote Racer
Vote Danny

jeheinz72
08-09-2011, 04:23 PM
A'ight, I'm out of here...until tomorrow.

Chubby
08-09-2011, 04:26 PM
Why would you use random.org, then when the person it came up with isn't to your liking you claim you want to consolodate the vote? You also say you have someone you would like to vote.

So in one post you use random.org, claim you have a candidate in mind, then vote neither of those and claim you want to consolodate.

That all stinks.

Unvote Danny
Vote Chubby

Because I went to random while catching up on the thread as I usually do on day one. If I vote who random picked then I get yelled at for a throw away vote. I agreed with consolidation but I still get yelled at for not voting a throw away?

I'd love to vote somebody with no votes on them but there's no hard evidence, its a hunch and we're back to me agreeing to consolidating the vote so why would I dilute it more?

JAG
08-09-2011, 04:32 PM
Day 1 Voting (as of Post 219):

Chubby 4: Autumn (106), bhlloy (117), EagleFan (164), Lathum (204)
Danny 4: ntndeacon (80), Lathum (126), Telle (205), jeheinz72 (217)
EagleFan 3: Barkeep49 (75), hoopsguy (97), Autumn (174)
Lathum 3: Narcizo (90), Zinto (171), Chubby (195)
ntndeacon 1: mckerney (94)
Zinto 1: MrBug708 (134)
Thomkal 1: Racer (147)
*Autumn -1:

* - Autumn has -1 to his D1 voting for winning the game-naming contest.

mckerney
08-09-2011, 04:35 PM
Because I went to random while catching up on the thread as I usually do on day one. If I vote who random picked then I get yelled at for a throw away vote. I agreed with consolidation but I still get yelled at for not voting a throw away?

It's possible to not throw your vote away day one? :p

Racer
08-09-2011, 04:38 PM
Unvote Thomkal
Vote EagleFan

Narcizo and EagleFan have been the only ones who have struck me as saying anything remotely odd so far.

Racer
08-09-2011, 04:39 PM
Day 1 Voting (as of Post 219):

Chubby 4: Autumn (106), bhlloy (117), EagleFan (164), Lathum (204)
Danny 4: ntndeacon (80), Lathum (126), Telle (205), jeheinz72 (217)
EagleFan 3: Barkeep49 (75), hoopsguy (97), Autumn (174)
Lathum 3: Narcizo (90), Zinto (171), Chubby (195)
ntndeacon 1: mckerney (94)
Zinto 1: MrBug708 (134)
Thomkal 1: Racer (147)
*Autumn -1:

* - Autumn has -1 to his D1 voting for winning the game-naming contest.

Lathum has two votes in here. :)

Thomkal
08-09-2011, 04:40 PM
caught up now. I'm not seeing any obvious slips of the tongue or particularly strange moves, so I will just put a vote out to get a third candidate up to the leaders. Sorry I wasn't very active today should be better tomorrow.

vote lathum

Thomkal
08-09-2011, 04:41 PM
and of course Racer gets a third person up before I could, heh. Thanks for the unvote.

Racer
08-09-2011, 04:44 PM
and of course Racer gets a third person up before I could, heh. Thanks for the unvote.

Yep. No problem.

JAG
08-09-2011, 04:47 PM
Lathum has two votes in here. :)

Oops. Let me try again.

MrBug708
08-09-2011, 04:49 PM
This convo goes back an hour or so, but while Lathum has that wolf vibe to him, but I've always known his as the Duke role

JAG
08-09-2011, 04:52 PM
Day 1 Voting (as of Post 228):

Chubby 4: Autumn (106), bhlloy (117), EagleFan (164), Lathum (204)
EagleFan 4: Barkeep49 (75), hoopsguy (97), Autumn (174), Racer (222)
Lathum 4: Narcizo (90), Zinto (171), Chubby (195), Thomkal (224)
Danny 3: ntndeacon (80), Telle (205), jeheinz72 (217)
ntndeacon 1: mckerney (94)
Zinto 1: MrBug708 (134)
*Autumn -1:

* - Autumn has -1 to his D1 voting for winning the game-naming contest, narrowly defeating "A Norse is a Norse of course of course"

Lathum
08-09-2011, 04:52 PM
Because I went to random while catching up on the thread as I usually do on day one. If I vote who random picked then I get yelled at for a throw away vote. I agreed with consolidation but I still get yelled at for not voting a throw away?

I'd love to vote somebody with no votes on them but there's no hard evidence, its a hunch and we're back to me agreeing to consolidating the vote so why would I dilute it more?

I know it isn't much to go on, just seems like a post a wolf could make trying to make it seem like he coverd all bases.

Lathum
08-09-2011, 04:53 PM
This convo goes back an hour or so, but while Lathum has that wolf vibe to him, but I've always known his as the Duke role

I'm not the duke, just a vanilla villager. I do however have an item.

EagleFan
08-09-2011, 04:57 PM
Way to make me look bad, EF.

<b>unvote chubby
vote eaglefan</b>

hah

How did I make you look bad? Going over the posts and I am either missing something or that you know Chubby will turn up villager and thus making your first vote on him look bad. Of course there is only one way that you would know that...

EagleFan
08-09-2011, 04:58 PM
Unvote Thomkal
Vote EagleFan

Narcizo and EagleFan have been the only ones who have struck me as saying anything remotely odd so far.

What did I say odd?

EagleFan
08-09-2011, 05:00 PM
Oh well, home for dinner and will try to check in later.

dubb93
08-09-2011, 05:14 PM
I'm not the duke, just a vanilla villager. I do however have an item.

Just out of curiosity what happens to the item if you were the lynch today? Go to a random person?

Darth Vilus
08-09-2011, 05:18 PM
Well it looks like it's gonna be Lathum, Chubby and EagleFan today.

Vote Chubby

Honestly no real reason, all three of you seem the same to me at this point

Racer
08-09-2011, 05:19 PM
What did I say odd?

Nothing major really. I thought it was pretty faulty logic to feel good about ntndeacon already just because he was being more active then usual apparently. That's why I said remotely odd (as in barely).

dubb93
08-09-2011, 05:21 PM
Well it looks like it's gonna be Lathum, Chubby and EagleFan today.

Vote Chubby

Honestly no real reason, all three of you seem the same to me at this point

Any reason you leave Danny out of this? I think Danny should be in the equation as well. I didn't like how he was overly agreeing with me today.

Vote Danny

Lathum
08-09-2011, 05:23 PM
Just out of curiosity what happens to the item if you were the lynch today? Go to a random person?

That is my understanding

Danny
08-09-2011, 05:25 PM
Any reason you leave Danny out of this? I think Danny should be in the equation as well. I didn't like how he was overly agreeing with me today.

Vote Danny

I agree, good post!

Seriously though, I really don't know what you are talking about.

dubb93
08-09-2011, 05:35 PM
I agree, good post!

Seriously though, I really don't know what you are talking about.

I was the first to get on Telle about her Autumn vote and then you seemed to go a little over the top arguing my point.

Danny
08-09-2011, 05:37 PM
Alright, if that's how you read it. I always get on people about throw away votes.

Danny
08-09-2011, 05:39 PM
Obviously she changed it, so it doesn't matter now, but quite honestly, that was a ridiculously bad one

Lathum
08-09-2011, 05:45 PM
I agree, good post!

Seriously though, I really don't know what you are talking about.

:D

Darth Vilus
08-09-2011, 06:05 PM
Any reason you leave Danny out of this? I think Danny should be in the equation as well. I didn't like how he was overly agreeing with me today.

Vote Danny

no, no reason. i just thought he was losing steam since tthere were 3 others with more votes. u can add him to the list as well

mauchow
08-09-2011, 06:12 PM
I'M HERE!! For a bit.

Catching up now and will put in my vote, which looks like will be a key one.

mauchow
08-09-2011, 06:14 PM
A four way freakin' tie? sheesh.

Darth Vilus
08-09-2011, 06:15 PM
kiss off Mau!

jk

Darth Vilus
08-09-2011, 06:17 PM
assuming there are 5 wolves we have almost a 1 in 4 chance of hitting one. And we have 4 candidates up there lol. probability says one of them is a wolf. funny how that works out

mauchow
08-09-2011, 06:17 PM
This could be great for me! I've got Danny sitting there... tied for first, he got my tempers up last game.... could be an easy vote! LOL