WW CXLVIII - Ancient Infection - EVIL WINS!

[Danny]

Im ok with bh i think its a good move actually

[JAG]

No, I meant we have him narrowed down as either Evil or seer. If he's seer, the wolves will have to get rid of him soon (or if not, we'll just collect scans and eventually lynch one when we have enough info). If he's Evil, there is some downside in letting him stick around, but even so we still have at least one other Evil we need to find if he and Eagle are 2 of 3 mummy/transformed.

[GoldenEagle]

I am not going to bother voting for today. It is not like voting history in this game means anything.

And why are seers (if they are seers) publicizing who are they going to scan tonight? That makes no sense to me.

[Danny]

Scan jonathan quick, cause he cant be human

[JAG]

Poor Autumn with only 9-10 hours to do a write-up today.

[Autumn]

I was thinking of starting working on one soon.

[JAG]

GE, seriously, that's a lot of belly-aching for finding two bad guys in two days. I'll take another runaway D4 if it means getting another even if our voting history for that day won't be meaningful.

I get the not revealing the scan before deadline because it gives the wolves a bit of a road map. Maybe they can put down multiple names so they don't overlap but don't reveal exactly who they're scanning (like a bigger version of what Simbo is doing).

[Autumn]

Deadline

Day 3 Vote Count

EagleFan (14) - Zinto, Danny, JAG, cougarfreak, the jackal, mauboy1, eaglefan, simbo, kwhit, crimsonfox, raiders army, narcizo, bhlloy, darth vilus, lonestargirl

nightfall - mauboy1, narcizo

[Autumn]

With the death of Chief Rum behind them, the group is energized today, unified once more behind a call to capture one of themselves. This time it is EagleFan, who does not lead the group on a wild chase but instead holds out his hands for handcuffs, begging to be cured.

The group looks questioningly at each other but soon the moment breaks as one of you lashes out at EagleFan, attempting to knock him to the ground. But EagleFan fends that strike off, and then another. Soon the group is swarming at him, but with great strength he shoves you all back, hurling you away, leaving you all staggering back bruised and battered.

"You think you're any match for me? The whole group of you could not begin to hold me down. And that was if the whole group was even trying. Look at the ones next to you. How hard are they trying to capture me? That one that bumped you out of the way, you think that was incidental? You think that I am housed in only this body? You poor, pathetic fools. This body is only a vessel for my immortal blood, and now yours are too. You cannot stop me because I am you. Soon I will be all of you and we will leave this isle."

No matter how hard you try the group of you cannot subdue EagleFan, and he leaves you in a disheveled, weakened state. "Sleep well tonight, humans. However many of you there are left."

EagleFan is The Mummy! The lynch was unsuccessful.

Night 3 will end at 10 pm EST.

[Passacaglia]

No harm in that, I think -- that will be good info for the Mummy Hunter to have.

[mauchow]

Wow, nicely done bhlloy but unfortunate end result.

One of us will still be alive tomorrow at least so we can get at least one more scan in. That makes it real easy for tomorrow's vote at least.

[Passacaglia]

And the emergence of the Mummy Hunter tonight will also be good for the village -- it gives the wolves an incentive to target a vanilla villager, instead of a seer.

[EagleFan]

Thank you for allowing the night kill!!!!

[Passacaglia]

Wow, nicely done bhlloy but unfortunate end result.

One of us will still be alive tomorrow at least so we can get at least one more scan in. That makes it real easy for tomorrow's vote at least.

I'm guessing you'll be the one left alive.

[Passacaglia]

Thank you for allowing the night kill!!!!

About time you guys got one. Of course, now, the Mummy Hunter will have your number, and you're going to get yours soon -- unless your Infected can find out who that is first, and that seems unlikely given they'll probably go after bhlloy.

[JAG]

Here:



Here's the D1 vote count:

CrimsonFox (4) - raiders army (141), EagleFan (178), Chief Rum (248), JAG (429)
Zinto (4) - the jackal (145), Darth Vilus (240), Lonestargirl (370), GoldenEagle (384)
Danny (4) - Britrock88 (149), Simbo Klice (260), Cougarfreak (373), Julio (428)
Julio Riddols (6) - Bhlloy (192), Narcizo (261), mauboy1 (368), CrimsonFox (406), Zinto (408), Danny (414)
Cougarfreak (1) - passacaglia (331)

No vote: KWhit


So of the Julio voters, we know bh, Danny, and Mau were not Transformed or Mummy. EF voted for CF, which speaks well to him not being a Big 3 Evil. I think he might have wanted to vote a Julio voter because he knew there were no Big 3 Evil players there, which he could only know as the mummy.

That's my two cents.

Pulling this info up again, knowing that EF knows all the bad guys, I am pretty confident he doesn't jump on a Transforned vote along with RA on CF day 1, so RA is probably not Transformed. He wanted a Julio voter so I would for now eliminate that as a possibility too.

[bhlloy]

I'm sticking with Zinto. I'm probably not making it through tonight anyway

[JAG]

So I think I would take a look at the Zinto or Danny voters if I were a seer.

[EagleFan]

You're playing a gutsy game bhlloy, good luck and bring home the victory for us!!! The best thing is that they will think that I am lying and won't even look your way! I love it when someone plays completely out of the box!

[GoldenEagle]

GE, seriously, that's a lot of belly-aching for finding two bad guys in two days. I'll take another runaway D4 if it means getting another even if our voting history for that day won't be meaningful.

I get the not revealing the scan before deadline because it gives the wolves a bit of a road map. Maybe they can put down multiple names so they don't overlap but don't reveal exactly who they're scanning (like a bigger version of what Simbo is doing).

Perhaps, but I think the role of the seer has been poorly played and it may cost the village in the end.

[mauchow]

Perhaps, but I think the role of the seer has been poorly played and it may cost the village in the end.

Eh, we'll see about that after tonight.

[JAG]

You're playing a gutsy game bhlloy, good luck and bring home the victory for us!!! The best thing is that they will think that I am lying and won't even look your way! I love it when someone plays completely out of the box!

The best thing about having you outed, other than the fact you'll be toast in a couple days, is we get to listen to you rant over the next couple days. I don't think there's a more entertaining "outed wolf" than you, so don't let me down.

[EagleFan]

Wolf? Oh crap, I thought Zombie was the top villager, like the Jack Bauer role of this game.

Where's my ticking clock theme!?!?!?!?

[mauchow]

I'm sure he'll play the I've been cured card...

[EagleFan]

Crap, not even zombie, mummy... Jeez, I can;t even remember that...

[EagleFan]

Cured? I ain't no ham. Keep on infecting mau, you and bhlloy are playing this perfectly!

[EagleFan]

http://www.freewebs.com/tutankhammunity/mummyeagle1.jpg

[The Jackal]

Well, that's not very surprising. I was hoping he was transformed trying to fake it, but ah well.

[The Jackal]

You'll be dead in a couple of days EF, don't worry

[EagleFan]

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/90895/90895,1247064432,1/stock-photo--sarcophagus-for-a-mummy-of-the-egyptian-pharaoh-33326107.jpg

[EagleFan]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/D3vhpk7DhZM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[CrimsonFox]

The best thing about having you outed, other than the fact you'll be toast in a couple days, is we get to listen to you rant over the next couple days. I don't think there's a more entertaining "outed wolf" than you, so don't let me down.


This should be better than he was in the Godfather game.

[The Jackal]

We get to see his new signature a lot, at least

[CrimsonFox]

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/D3vhpk7DhZM" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>

I remember that show! heh! Have a VHS somewhere

[CrimsonFox]

http://www.freewebs.com/tutankhammunity/mummyeagle1.jpg

what the hell is that? You aren't a p-terydactyl.

[EagleFan]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/AW9my4jk5JQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[EagleFan]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7yCTZKu7EA8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[mauchow]

Was wavering back and forth with the two people I want to scan.. just submitted officially. As long as wife doesn't pull me away I should be able to announce the scan pretty quickly.

[Simbo Klice]

I went with GoldenEagle.

[EagleFan]

Holy crap, time travelers from the 80's?

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[EagleFan]

Nothing to do with this, but it's the first time watching this song all the way through...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/FIfbghHdG1s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Zinto]

Well not the best results but still, we are looking pretty good after three days!

[CrimsonFox]

You forgot "Walk LIke an Egyptian" Eagle

[bhlloy]

Last theory possibly... I wonder if Pass isn't infected and trying to communicate his kill with EF. Can analyze further if I survive

[CrimsonFox]

Last theory possibly... I wonder if Pass isn't infected and trying to communicate his kill with EF. Can analyze further if I survive


what do you mean?

[bhlloy]

There was a villager checking in post today that didn't make much sense to me at the time and struck me as weird and then his stuff after deadline about how he would go after the mummy hunter instead of me felt like he was trying to get input from EF. Just a hunch

[CrimsonFox]

There was a villager checking in post today that didn't make much sense to me at the time and struck me as weird and then his stuff after deadline about how he would go after the mummy hunter instead of me felt like he was trying to get input from EF. Just a hunch


That was Pass being funny. Because the post above it was something like "This will be another Day One all over again."

get it?

[Passacaglia]

Enter the mind of pass....the "villager checking in" post was just a joke about how we're back at Day 1, so I made a typical Day 1 post. The Mummy Hunter was just an attempt to get the Infected to consider attacking someone other than you, or at least make them worry a bit.

[CrimsonFox]

At least _I_ thought it was funny.

[bhlloy]

Ah ok. Second part still stands though. I can see it as a valiant villager or I can see it as an infected trying to get some poibters

[bhlloy]

Yeah I can see that Pass. Just trying to throw some stuff out before I expect to be killed

[Passacaglia]

Ah ok. Second part still stands though. I can see it as a valiant villager or I can see it as an infected trying to get some poibters

I have never in my life wanted any poibters!

[Passacaglia]

And thanks CF.

[bhlloy]

Haha iPhone ftw

[Passacaglia]

Well I also would never want pointers either, so there!

[CrimsonFox]

I sense a pulitzer prizewinning epic being typed.

[Autumn]

The whole group is terrified, hardly able to sleep, after their face to face encounter with the Mummy, in the form of EagleFan. The looks they pass between each other as they retire, to try to sleep, are discouraged, and wary. You all know he was right, that some of you are on his side. But you don't know who.

Of course everyone remains vigilant, as best they can after nights of hardly any sleep. But your rest, what there is of it, is interrupted by a horrible screaming. The whole group converges on a hallway in the island compound. There you find the body of Bhlloy, better known to you as Professor Liechting, beaten to a pulp. His books and notes are scattered throughout the hallway. You all know the signs, the rage of a island member infected with the blood of the Mummy.

Bhlloy is dead. Bhlloy was Professor Liechting.

Day Four ends Thursday at 9 pm EST

[Simbo Klice]

Gotta head to work- GoldenEagle: Not Evil

Be back on later.

[CrimsonFox]

Sorry Autumn, if it isn't at least 40 minutes late, it's not an epic.

[EagleFan]

Well done.

[Passacaglia]

Villager checking in.

Okay, it's not funny the second time....

[mauchow]

Expected but sad result. You had a great run of scans though bhlloy, for that, we salute you! We will give you a proper burial. Prepare for the hook up your nostrils as we pull out your brain.

[CrimsonFox]

hehehehehehehehehe

[CrimsonFox]

yes it is, pass, yes it is

[EagleFan]

http://indyslim.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/steak4.jpg

[CrimsonFox]

Expected but sad result. You had a great run of scans though bhlloy, for that, we salute you! We will give you a proper burial. Prepare for the hook up your nostrils as we pull out your brain.


isn't it custom to bury him in a sealed pyramid with his live cat and servants? Or is that futurama?

[CrimsonFox]

http://indyslim.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/steak4.jpg


Ewwww I don't like my bhlloy that well done :P

[Autumn]

You guys are paving the way for the sequel I say.

[EagleFan]

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/7/4/lolcatzprefere128596761679350336.jpg

[CrimsonFox]

You guys are paving the way for the sequel I say.


speaking of which I finally saw Dark Knight last night. NOW I understand you're previous games!

[CrimsonFox]

and yes I know I just misspelled your.

[Autumn]

speaking of which I finally saw Dark Knight last night. NOW I understand you're previous games!

:banghead:

[mauchow]

I scanned Danny thinking that he'd have been a good infected target at this point and didn't want him to be sneaking around under the radar...unfortunately he scanned on the good side.

[EagleFan]

For Danny, the loyal minion...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2742/4495557271_79ec9ac178.jpg

[The Jackal]

Props to bhlloy on a seer well played

[JAG]

Darn. Oh well, nice job anyway bhlloy.

[mauchow]

But that makes today easy for me.

vote simbo klice

[EagleFan]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VrVpfZZUcoo/T7v0NIG-oGI/AAAAAAAASaM/-0EyD8WiBBs/s400/186969822000219104_pLtVPJCg_f.jpg

[EagleFan]

Okay, who is ready to analyze the game? How can I help?

[JAG]

I scanned Danny thinking that he'd have been a good infected target at this point and didn't want him to be sneaking around under the radar...unfortunately he scanned on the good side.

If you're really the seer, that was a poor scan choice since he couldn't have been Transformed and could have been cured overnight.

[JAG]

Okay, who is ready to analyze the game? How can I help?

Well, by the rules you know all the Evil players in the game. It seems like revealing that info would be helpful to us.

[EagleFan]

Putting on my village cap I don't think that's a bad choice with 2 seers remaining at that time. You want to know for certain who you can trust.

[mauchow]

Ahhh, yeah... I should have just went the cougarfreak route like I was going to do all afternoon.

[EagleFan]

Autumn told me that bhlloy was a transformed so apparently he lied to me.

[mauchow]

As usual the deadline pressure gets me like it always does in this game. For some reason I thought it would be good to know asap on Danny.

[EagleFan]

Danny's been awfully quiet lately. That can't be a good sign....

[EagleFan]

Uh oh, was hoping for OT. Nothing like a potential OT clincher.

[JAG]

Vote LoneStarGirl

I don't see a compelling reason to accept either mauboy or Simbo at this time, so I'm pulling in a Zinto voter. No real rhyme or reason with her over the other ones (other than I feel somewhat ok with Jackak by vibe). I don't see the value in looking at RA, CF, or the others who voted Julio for now.

[mauchow]

Jackak!

[Passacaglia]

I don't see a compelling reason to accept either mauboy or Simbo at this time

Does that mean that you would see a compelling reason to at a later time? If so, why later but not now?

[Danny]

So you scanned someone who was guaranteed to not be a transformed, not a good call if you are the real seer.

[mauchow]

Yes. The statement was already made.

Thanks for reminding me. I think I'll call it a night rather than listen to people berate yet another bad move from me. Too soon to reveal. Bad scan (this one I will admit in hindsight.. I was panicking in the final minutes on who to choose and no longer used logic to decide).

I'll see you guys tomorrow.

[Danny]

FWIW, I didn't berate your other moves.

[Danny]

Vote Kimbo

Going with the math odds here.

[EagleFan]

So you scanned someone who was guaranteed to not be a transformed, not a good call if you are the real seer.

But not guaranteed to not be infected. Nothing wrong with making sure you have someone 100 perent trustworthy. Especially when there were still 2 seers at that time.

[Danny]

Oh well, at least I know now that I am not a wolf

[The Jackal]

Gonna sleep on this one, at least we should have some discussion today

[EagleFan]

Oh well, at least I know now that I am not a wolf

It doesn't matter that you know. It matters that everyone else knows.

[Simbo Klice]

Since mauboy the cultist is quite useless, I'll put it out there even though I'm sure a lot of you will relish tearing this down. There's a situation where I'd still be for a mauboy lynch today but unless it comes up I won't mention it.

I think that there's actually a very good chance Danny would be a high priority infection target- As a former lover, he now has to die to win so the Transformed know his better bet for that to happen is to be on their side, and he'll willingly play ball. As an original confirmed good guy from a now-confirmed good guy, he's already as close to a trusted villager as there is left.

[Danny]

As a former lover, he now has to die to win so the Transformed know his better bet for that to happen is to be on their side,

This is a dumb statement. The first part sure, I can give you that.

[Danny]

my vote is not changing fwiw, have to go with the overwhelming percentages here

[Passacaglia]

Since mauboy the cultist is quite useless, I'll put it out there even though I'm sure a lot of you will relish tearing this down. There's a situation where I'd still be for a mauboy lynch today but unless it comes up I won't mention it.

I think that there's actually a very good chance Danny would be a high priority infection target- As a former lover, he now has to die to win so the Transformed know his better bet for that to happen is to be on their side, and he'll willingly play ball. As an original confirmed good guy from a now-confirmed good guy, he's already as close to a trusted villager as there is left.

But didn't you vote for mauboy earlier?

[Simbo Klice]

This is a dumb statement. The first part sure, I can give you that.

Well, now that bh is gone and I'm on borrowed time, there probably won't be any investigations on you, so I can see where an actual result casting suspicion on you would be unlikely. But if you're infected and you come up for a lynch, you can just say "I don't want the cure, lynch me"... Whereas as a villager you have to rely on an infected deciding to go for you over hunting for roles, which is what I think their inclination will be for the time being.

But didn't you vote for mauboy earlier?

Pure reaction vote to his fake reveal, before I pieced it together.

[Danny]

Well, now that bh is gone and I'm on borrowed time, there probably won't be any investigations on you, so I can see where an actual result casting suspicion on you would be unlikely. But if you're infected and you come up for a lynch, you can just say "I don't want the cure, lynch me"... Whereas as a villager you have to rely on an infected deciding to go for you over hunting for roles, which is what I think their inclination will be for the time being.



Pure reaction vote to his fake reveal, before I pieced it together.

But why would the fact that I would prefer to die be a motivating factor for the current wolves to convert me? And I am going to play for my side whatever that is. Yes, I need to die to win, but I also need my side to win and there's plenty of time for me to die.

[Simbo Klice]

But why would the fact that I would prefer to die be a motivating factor for the current wolves to convert me? And I am going to play for my side whatever that is. Yes, I need to die to win, but I also need my side to win and there's plenty of time for me to die.

Their motivating factor is that you've been scanned good, and that your motivating factor to die can now be achieved one of three ways- a mislynch of villager you, a lynch of infected you, or a kill by an infected. The third is unlikely, and the first two both help the bad side. So all your motivations are therefore beneficial to the scum team.

Also, since mau could be thinking down this avenue as well- he "scanned" you good to cover himself and make things look worse for me and/or to cover you because he believes there's a good chance you're now infected.

[Simbo Klice]

Their motivating factor is that you've been scanned good, and that your motivating factor to die can now be achieved one of three ways- a mislynch of villager you, a lynch of infected you, or a kill by an infected. The third is unlikely, and the first two both help the bad side. So all your motivations are therefore beneficial to the scum team.

Also, since mau could be thinking down this avenue as well- he "scanned" you good to cover himself and make things look worse for me and/or to cover you because he believes there's a good chance you're now infected.

And I should point out- lynch of an infected you is beneficiary to them now because there are (very likely) multiple infected people to perform a kill, and each day the Transformed survive is beneficial for them and their team.

[EagleFan]

CoT
I EagleFan - Highly Trusted



Other...
II LoneStarGirl
IV Zinto
V Britrock
VII JAG
VIII Narcizo
IX Danny
X CrimsonFox
XI Golden Eagle
XII Mauboy
XIV Kwhit
XV Simbo Klice
XVI Passacaglia
XVII Darth Vilus
XVIII Raiders Army
XIX Cougarfreak
XX The Jackal

[EagleFan]

For what it's worth...

I would recommend night killing either Pass, CF (pick one), Narc or GE for night 4.

For the infection I would go either Danny, LSG, DV, RA or JAG.

Though keep an eye on Z, I think he has a special role.

For today's lynch maybe we should look at either Brit, Jackal, Danny, EF or KWhit.


Thoughts?

Or we go with my original idea of looking at those day one voters that lynched that poor helpless villager.

[britrock88]

Obviously this has less weight after the vote results, but the reason I withheld a vote was that EF's reaction to being targeted was (in my mind) pretty clearly the nonchalance that someone immune to lynch (i.e., the mummy) would have. For today, I think I'll look back to the beginning of yesterday to see what and who got the ball rolling for an EF lynch, especially after his retort.

[britrock88]

Vote Zinto

As soon as bhlloy revealed the scan, Zinto IMMEDIATELY voted EagleFan. When EagleFan responded, "Kill me or cure me," Zinto pressed for EagleFan's lynching, stating that he would have an NK before an opportunity to cure. (He was later corrected on this.) But between that hypervigilance and a possibly deliberate misrepresentation of the rules in order to encourage the thwarted mummy lynch (plus a little more pinging from earlier in the game), that's where my vote lands.

[Simbo Klice]

For what it's worth...

I would recommend night killing either Pass, CF (pick one), Narc or GE for night 4.

For the infection I would go either Danny, LSG, DV, RA or JAG.

Though keep an eye on Z, I think he has a special role.

For today's lynch maybe we should look at either Brit, Jackal, Danny, EF or KWhit.


Thoughts?

Or we go with my original idea of looking at those day one voters that lynched that poor helpless villager.

So, there's something to be gleaned from this. I doubt the Mummy would put Transformed onto the NK list, since it would mean no NK and a simple switchout. I'm not ready to vote yet, but a couple of those names on the infect list are high on my radar.

[Danny]

As a villager youd be better off just ignoring everything ef says and not actually try to read anything. In fact, i just skip pver his posts without even reading them

[Narcizo]

Ok. Looks like you guys were right about Eagle - I didn't really have much time to analyze things yesterday but looks like some of you are more on the ball than I was. Still, knowing that Eagle is the Mummy helps us out a lot and he'll be undead meat in a couple of days so that's still a good result.

[Simbo Klice]

As a villager youd be better off just ignoring everything ef says and not actually try to read anything. In fact, i just skip pver his posts without even reading them

Though he's doing his best to keep us off his scent, he's also trying to quarterback the scum team as well, which he can't do outside the thread.

[Narcizo]

Day Two

#141 05:39 Raiders votes CrimsonFox (1)
#145 07:21 Jackal votes Zinto (1)
#149 09:18 Britrock votes Danny (1)
#150 09:27 Narcizo votes Britrock (1)
#154 09:42 JAG votes Passacaglia (1)
#155 09:45 Bhlloy votes Chief Rum (1)
#178 12:02 EagleFan votes CrimsonFox (2)
#192 12:37 Bhlloy unvotes Chief Rum (0)
#192 12:37 Bhlloy votes Julio (1)

#214 13:14 Zinto votes Narcizo (1)
#228 13:52 CrimsonFox votes Eaglefan (1)
#240 14:09 Darth Vilus votes Zinto (2)
#242 14:23 mauboy votes Darth Vilus (1)
#248 14:59 Chief Rum votes CrimsonFox (3)
#255 15:09 Julio votes Narcizo (2)
#258 15:26 CrimsonFox unvotes EagleFan (0)
#258 15:26 Crimson votes Narcizo (3)

#260 15:41 Simbo Klice votes Danny (2)
#261 15:41 Narcizo unvotes Britrock (0)
#261 15:41 Narcizo votes Julio (2)
#331 18:40 Passacaglia votes Cougarfreak (1)
#354 19:14 Danny votes KWhit (1)
#367 19:35 CrimsonFox unvotes Narcizo (2)
#367 19:35 CrimsonFox votes KWhit (2)
#368 19:44 Mau unvotes Darth Vilus (0)
#368 19:44 Mau votes Julio (3)
#370 19:49 LoneStarGirl votes Zinto (3)

#373 19:15 Cougarfreak votes Danny (3)
#376 19:37 Zinto votes Julio (4)
#380 20:39 JAG unvotes Pass (0)
#384 20:42 GoldenEagle votes Zinto (4)
#389 20:44 Crimson unvotes KWhit (1)

#394 20:47 Zinto unvotes Julio (3)
#406 20:51 CrimsonFox votes Julio (4)
#408 20:52 Zinto votes Julio (5)
#414 20:56 Danny unvotes KWhit (0)
#414 20:56 Danny votes Julio (6)
#428 21:00 Julio unvotes Narcizo (1)
#428 21:00 Julio votes Danny (4)
#429 21:00 JAG votes Crimson (4)


Vote Count

CrimsonFox (4) - raiders army (141), EagleFan (178), Chief Rum (248), JAG (429)
Zinto (4) - the jackal (145), Darth Vilus (240), Lonestargirl (370), GoldenEagle (384)
Danny (4) - Britrock88 (149), Simbo Klice (260), Cougarfreak (373), Julio (428)
Julio Riddols (6) - Bhlloy (192), Narcizo (261), mauboy1 (368), CrimsonFox (406), Zinto (408), Danny (414)
Cougarfreak (1) - passacaglia (331)

No Vote - Kwhit

[Narcizo]

Scans

Bhlloy:
Danny
Chief Rum (evil)
EagleFan (evil)

Mauboy:
Pass
Narcizo
Simbo (evil)
Danny

Simbo Klice:
Bhlloy
Pass
EagleFan (evil)
GoldenEagle

So to sum up we know that Pass and Danny aren't the transformers but either could be infected. Mau is either the professor or the cultist. Hopefully the doctor tried to cure Simbo last night so Simbo is either the professor or a transformer. Going to go back and read Eagle's posts and read both what Simbo and mau had to say yesterday. If I get the time.

[Raiders Army]

I'm going to be out for the rest of today and won't make it back before lynch (if at all today).

VOTE MAUBOY1

I'm underthinking this, I know.

[Narcizo]

So I doubt Crimson was starting evil. Don't see Eagle dropping the second vote on a baddy on day one in this ruleset. Should have put Danny and Pass in blue on day one because they both must have been villagers on day one. In fact I'll redo it all.

Simbo seems to be talking the most sense at the moment while mau's decision of scan is baffling. However having been around for the Red Death II game it sort of rings true to mau's play as a villager (no offence mau :) )

What I come back to is the fact that several people noted Eagle was pushing for his own lynch. Why would he do that if Simbo was the seer - it makes no sense. I wish I had listened to you guys yesterday because if Simbo is transformed then lynching him yesterday would have been fantastic. The infected person would have been upgraded to the transformer and there would be no infection last night and no night kills. I'm sorry I didn't realise that until reading the rules again. So Eagle's play doesn't make any sense if Simbo is the seer while it makes perfect sense if Simbo is transformed.

Having said that I'm still not sure that voting Simbo is the way forward. Still feels like we might want the infecteds sort things out for us. Unfortunately, as has been pointed out, we don't have an awful lot to go off of in narrowing down the village.

[Narcizo]

Day One

#141 05:39 Raiders votes CrimsonFox (1)
#145 07:21 Jackal votes Zinto (1)
#149 09:18 Britrock votes Danny (1)
#150 09:27 Narcizo votes Britrock (1)
#154 09:42 JAG votes Passacaglia (1)
#155 09:45 Bhlloy votes Chief Rum (1)
#178 12:02 EagleFan votes CrimsonFox (2)
#192 12:37 Bhlloy unvotes Chief Rum (0)
#192 12:37 Bhlloy votes Julio (1)

#214 13:14 Zinto votes Narcizo (1)
#228 13:52 CrimsonFox votes Eaglefan (1)
#240 14:09 Darth Vilus votes Zinto (2)
#242 14:23 mauboy votes Darth Vilus (1)
#248 14:59 Chief Rum votes CrimsonFox (3)
#255 15:09 Julio votes Narcizo (2)
#258 15:26 CrimsonFox unvotes EagleFan (0)
#258 15:26 Crimson votes Narcizo (3)

#260 15:41 Simbo Klice votes Danny (2)
#261 15:41 Narcizo unvotes Britrock (0)
#261 15:41 Narcizo votes Julio (2)
#331 18:40 Passacaglia votes Cougarfreak (1)
#354 19:14 Danny votes KWhit (1)
#367 19:35 CrimsonFox unvotes Narcizo (2)
#367 19:35 CrimsonFox votes KWhit (2)
#368 19:44 Mau unvotes Darth Vilus (0)
#368 19:44 Mau votes Julio (3)
#370 19:49 LoneStarGirl votes Zinto (3)

#373 19:15 Cougarfreak votes Danny (3)
#376 19:37 Zinto votes Julio (4)
#380 20:39 JAG unvotes Pass (0)
#384 20:42 GoldenEagle votes Zinto (4)
#389 20:44 Crimson unvotes KWhit (1)

#394 20:47 Zinto unvotes Julio (3)
#406 20:51 CrimsonFox votes Julio (4)
#408 20:52 Zinto votes Julio (5)
#414 20:56 Danny unvotes KWhit (0)
#414 20:56 Danny votes Julio (6)
#428 21:00 Julio unvotes Narcizo (1)
#428 21:00 Julio votes Danny (4)
#429 21:00 JAG votes Crimson (4)


Vote Count

CrimsonFox (4) - raiders army (141), EagleFan (178), Chief Rum (248), JAG (429)
Zinto (4) - the jackal (145), Darth Vilus (240), Lonestargirl (370), GoldenEagle (384)
Danny (4) - Britrock88 (149), Simbo Klice (260), Cougarfreak (373), Julio (428)
Julio Riddols (6) - Bhlloy (192), Narcizo (261), mauboy1 (368), CrimsonFox (406), Zinto (408), Danny (414)
Cougarfreak (1) - passacaglia (331)

No Vote - Kwhit

[Narcizo]

Anyway I've got to go for now. Haven't really had the chance to do much more than read through Eagle's posts and try to come to terms with yesterday's events. Logic says that we should leave mau and Simbo - my gut says that Simbo is scummy (as he quaintly puts it). Last game, logic paid off for me so I'm going to look at other people.

At the moment LSG and Zinto are the alternative candidates. I'm tempted to vote Raiders for the sheer bat-shit insanity of voting mauboy but for now I'm a gonna

Vote Britrock

His logic for voting Zinto is pretty much based on Simbo being bad. Eagle would only want people to vote him if he was trying to save Simbo. And if he follows that theory he should really vote Simbo.

[Simbo Klice]

Not sure if I'll be back on before I hit the hay, so to further state the lack of necessity for a vote my way or mauboy's, when EF gets Mummy Hunter'ed Night 5, he'll probably Brutal kill the last seer on the way out. I'd prefer to have one last crack at a scan before I go, and it'll save one of you guys from that fate.

[JAG]

Yes. The statement was already made.

Thanks for reminding me. I think I'll call it a night rather than listen to people berate yet another bad move from me. Too soon to reveal. Bad scan (this one I will admit in hindsight.. I was panicking in the final minutes on who to choose and no longer used logic to decide).

I'll see you guys tomorrow.

Sorry if I came off harsh there (unless you're the cultist).

[mauchow]

This is honestly ridiculous but you guys go ahead and ignore my scans. If I had to guess the doctor got the results back on simbo as not cleared but doesn't want to out themselves yet. If the doctor did get that message is it worth knowing this info for Lynch tonight?

[JAG]

Does that mean that you would see a compelling reason to at a later time? If so, why later but not now?

Right now I'm not sure who to believe. I'm hopeful the infected(s) that have to make the night kill are also uncertain and may screw up or even refuse to kill one and give us additional scans to work with.

[The Jackal]

Doctors aren't informed if their cure was successful, mau, so the remaining doctor definitely shouldn't reveal, as they are an important weapon against the infected later in the game, especially if we've lost both seers

[mauchow]

My understanding of the rules is that the doctor will know the results since the other doctor is dead.

[mauchow]

The nurses scans of the infected I'm talking.

[Autumn]

Vote Kimbo

Does not compute.

[Autumn]

Day 4 vote count

simbo klice - mauboy
LoneStarGirl - JAG
zinto - britrock88
mauboy1 - raiders army
britrock - narcizo

[mauchow]

I guess I understand peoples hesitation now. If you vote simbo and he turns out to be the seer anybody who voted him would look very bad especially if it was a near 50-50 split. I feel bad now that I was unable to create a solid foundation for people to believe me so we could keep moving in the right direction.

[Simbo Klice]

Does not compute.

I knew switching the letters would pay off somewhere down the line.

[Simbo Klice]

I guess I understand peoples hesitation now. If you vote simbo and he turns out to be the seer anybody who voted him would look very bad especially if it was a near 50-50 split. I feel bad now that I was unable to create a solid foundation for people to believe me so we could keep moving in the right direction.

Yeah, yeah... About time for the sympathy play. Let's just agree that the infected and/or the Mummy are probably going to sort this out, and if by some crazy reason we're both alive on Day 6, we'll have a loser-leaves-town wrestling match in a tub of Jell-O.

[The Jackal]

The nurses scans of the infected I'm talking.

Ah I see. I suppose the doctor via the nurses acts as another seer, just for infected. It does benefit the doctor to cure the infected rather than reveal them, though, as we need to take down the transformed. And if they reveal then we lose this ability, even if they can't be sure that their cures worked or not.

It does make sense that one of the nurses would have scanned Simbo, though

[The Jackal]

But then there's the issue of infected turning in to transformed if one of them gets lynched, I guess

[The Jackal]

EF going down will help this situation a lot because we'll know that the transformed can't be replaced. So in my opinion the doctor should definitely not reveal, as he could be vital to winning (either by revealing nurse scanned infected or curing them) once the Mummy is gone and we hopefully take down some transformed

[Simbo Klice]

This is honestly ridiculous but you guys go ahead and ignore my scans. If I had to guess the doctor got the results back on simbo as not cleared but doesn't want to out themselves yet. If the doctor did get that message is it worth knowing this info for Lynch tonight?

He's basically just trying to get other roles to step out or waste their abilities now. I have maintained that I'm Professor Davis all along, and am therefore immune to being infected. Since either I'm lying or he is, and he picked up his "result" on Night 2, and CR was the N1 infection, he's pretty much saying that I was infected on Night 2. I'm betting that a Nurse has checked me out, and if I was infected they'd certainly have stepped up and ended this madness by now. This is just role fishing, plain and simple. All he can really do anymore. At least I can understand the argument that I'd have started as a Transformed.

[mauchow]

My point has always been that you were never infected based on your fake reveal. I voted ef because I knew there was no concrete evidence that we could say with certainty that either of you weren't just infected. Your reveal told me that you were either a mummy or transformed and a nurses scan to confirm you weren't infected would end that thought completely. You're the Guy we should Lynch tonight but your fake reveal put things into a standstill because of my lack of convincing.

[mauchow]

I meant to add that I voted ef before your reveal at which point you revealed so then at that point I was extremely confident you were a transformed or mummy. Now that we know ef if mummy we know you're transformed.

[Simbo Klice]

I meant to add that I voted ef before your reveal at which point you revealed so then at that point I was extremely confident you were a transformed or mummy. Now that we know ef if mummy we know you're transformed.

So why are you trying to get Doctors and Nurses, who have no ability to find or cure Transformed, to come out then? You're overplaying your position.

[JAG]

My point has always been that you were never infected based on your fake reveal. I voted ef because I knew there was no concrete evidence that we could say with certainty that either of you weren't just infected. Your reveal told me that you were either a mummy or transformed and a nurses scan to confirm you weren't infected would end that thought completely. You're the Guy we should Lynch tonight but your fake reveal put things into a standstill because of my lack of convincing.

I'm not sure I understand, why would an infected not fake reveal in that position?

[Simbo Klice]

Alright, unfortunately it's bedtime. I'll make every effort to get back on before Nightfall and see what's going on then. Hoping some discussion extends beyond myself and mauboy today.

[mauchow]

I'm not sure I understand, why would an infected not fake reveal in that position?

Because they can be saved. If they are targeted as a true infected id think they'd say they're infected would they not? Much like we saw with CR. Ef didn't need to create any drama as he knew he couldn't be lynched and it would have been way overboard to fake reveal when I came out and called out simbo who in turn fake revealed. He would have been drawing bad attantion to a fellow wolf possibly.

[mauchow]

Maybe I'm thinking too simple minded I'm not sure but its frustrating nonetheless.

[mauchow]

I love my phone now.. when I start typing a forum users name it knows who I'm typing about after a few letters. LOL

[britrock88]

Logic says that we should leave mau and Simbo - my gut says that Simbo is scummy (as he quaintly puts it).

At the moment LSG and Zinto are the alternative candidates.

Vote Britrock

His logic for voting Zinto is pretty much based on Simbo being bad. Eagle would only want people to vote him if he was trying to save Simbo. And if he follows that theory he should really vote Simbo.

So despite the fact that I follow your logic to a T, I deserve a vote?

[Zinto]

Assuming that the doctor did the right play and cured simbo last night then if he is a wolf then he has to be a transformed. Knowing this we should leave him alone until eagle is take care of so that we can be down to one transformed

[LoneStarGirl]

Okay, who is ready to analyze the game? How can I help?

I feel like I've been totally out of it this game. It sucks to have to read three or f our pages in one sitting nd truly understand what's being said in a game this elaborate. So even though I have a feeling this comment is laced with sarcasm, I am ready to sift through these posts and analyze away.

[GoldenEagle]

Britrock is playing in this game? Damn, he has been under the radar.

[cougarfreak]

I'm just checking in, I've got training to do until 7 or so tonight, so I won't be around until after then. I'll try and sift through this mind boggling stuff then.

[CrimsonFox]

Assuming that the doctor did the right play and cured simbo last night then if he is a wolf then he has to be a transformed. Knowing this we should leave him alone until eagle is take care of so that we can be down to one transformed

I missed that the doctor was going to scan simbo to eliminate him as an infected. So if the doctor scanned him, then he'd be cured and today would not be claiming to the seer since he'd be on the good side and Drs can't be infected anyway. And below he's still claiming it. So this talk of infectedness is invalid right? Or rather that it is definite he is not infected and this kinda proves that.

He's basically just trying to get other roles to step out or waste their abilities now. I have maintained that I'm Professor Davis all along, and am therefore immune to being infected. Since either I'm lying or he is, and he picked up his "result" on Night 2, and CR was the N1 infection, he's pretty much saying that I was infected on Night 2. I'm betting that a Nurse has checked me out, and if I was infected they'd certainly have stepped up and ended this madness by now. This is just role fishing, plain and simple. All he can really do anymore. At least I can understand the argument that I'd have started as a Transformed.

Yes I think that's what I'm saying, except that nurses can't end the madness by curing infected. Only doctors. They themselves don't even know the results I thought. They'd have to out themselves too. Er wait. they don't know the results so they wouldn't know. So why would a nurse be able to "end the madness" at all?

[EagleFan]

As a villager youd be better off just ignoring everything ef says and not actually try to read anything. In fact, i just skip pver his posts without even reading them

I'm hurt.... :( Are you still mourning Chief, and that's making you so mean? After I posted Kings stuff for you...


So, there's something to be gleaned from this. I doubt the Mummy would put Transformed onto the NK list, since it would mean no NK and a simple switchout. I'm not ready to vote yet, but a couple of those names on the infect list are high on my radar.

Sorry, but this made me laugh.


Though he's doing his best to keep us off his scent, he's also trying to quarterback the scum team as well, which he can't do outside the thread.

This also made me laugh. You like that word scum?


EF going down will help this situation a lot because we'll know that the transformed can't be replaced. So in my opinion the doctor should definitely not reveal, as he could be vital to winning (either by revealing nurse scanned infected or curing them) once the Mummy is gone and we hopefully take down some transformed

No! The doctor SHOULD absolutely reveal. We need to know who to trust! We know Danny will be infected tonight and can't be reasoned with after that. We need a new leader after his fall!!!


I feel like I've been totally out of it this game. It sucks to have to read three or f our pages in one sitting nd truly understand what's being said in a game this elaborate. So even though I have a feeling this comment is laced with sarcasm, I am ready to sift through these posts and analyze away.

Why are you posting with Danny's phone?!?!


Britrock is playing in this game? Damn, he has been under the radar.

While this is true, you may want to see why someone is posting with Danny's phone...

[EagleFan]

I just received a message that I have been cured!!!! All praise the Werewolf gods!!!! I'm a villager again!!!!!

Follow me to victory!!! Who is with me?!?!?!?!

[EagleFan]

Really, I just wanted my new sig to show up more times in the thread...

;)

[EagleFan]

vote mau

[EagleFan]

Come on troops; it's a big day today. We need to be active. We can eradicate those wolves starting today!!!!


(a bit much? ;))

[CrimsonFox]

Britrock is playing in this game? Damn, he has been under the radar.

heh I keep forgetting that too except for the low-post list I posted before.

(post)

[GoldenEagle]

Vote LoneStarGirl

I don't see a compelling reason to accept either mauboy or Simbo at this time, so I'm pulling in a Zinto voter. No real rhyme or reason with her over the other ones (other than I feel somewhat ok with Jackak by vibe). I don't see the value in looking at RA, CF, or the others who voted Julio for now.

This post strikes me as a bit odd. All indications are that voting is going to be either mauboy or sumbo and you pull a candidate out of left field. I am not sure what that means.

[CrimsonFox]

I just received a message that I have been cured!!!! All praise the Werewolf gods!!!! I'm a villager again!!!!!

Follow me to victory!!! Who is with me?!?!?!?!

okay funny man, so I'll follow you. what would you do if I did this, then?

vote mauboy

[Danny]

unvote simbo
vote simbo

Just in case it was missed

[CrimsonFox]

yeah Danny. autumn's being nitpicky (aka bitchy :) )and wouldn't accept the Kimbo thing. Simbo did you choose that name just to avoid lycnhing in any possible ww games you might find?

[mauchow]

Its laughable if I'm considered today. Which makes you suspect if you're trying to get that started.

[Danny]

Oh and we're on day 4 and Kwhit has 7 total posts in the whole thread.

1. Signing up
2. Comment about Le Michele
3. Complaint about me switching votes
4. Apology for missing day 1 vote
5. vote of chief rum with no explanation
6. night fall vote with no explanation
7. vote of eagle last night with no explanation

[CrimsonFox]

in and out today. GOing to the doctor as the heated pool, while nice, hasn't really been helping. Will be on various times definitely try to be on before deadline.

[britrock88]

Let's remember to be wary of EF's vote-boosting power. His vote is on mau, but he may have chosen one of the transformed's votes to boost today.

[mauchow]

And I see we've got ourselves a princess bride showdown.

[Danny]

A mau vote is ridiculous. The odds are heavily in favor of him being the one telling the truth. If you are choosing between the two, Simbo is the right vote. If you think we should go elsewhere and let the wolves clear it up, I can understand that.

[CrimsonFox]

And I see we've got ourselves a princess bride showdown.

i don't remember what that is but it probably ended in failure.

[JAG]

A mau vote is ridiculous.

+1. He's either the seer or cultist, neither of whom we want to vote.

[mauchow]

YouTube iocane powder battle o wits. I can't link easily from phone.

[Zinto]

I changed my mind on keeping Simbo alive if you think he is bad. Another of the infected can just bite him to change him back to just an infected. Honestly, if you think that he is the one who is bad you have to vote for him today so that whoever is infected cannot take his powers and hide.

[Zinto]

And it would make sense why Simbo is pushing for us to let it play out, he knows that if Mau is nightkilled then he accomplished getting the seer lynched if one of the infected try to kill him they just take his power making him more expendable.

[Danny]

So the odds right now is that we have a mummy, two transformed and two infected. Plus a cultist.

Simbo can only be transformed if the doctor was paying attention. Mau can only be cultist if evil.

The mummy will be dead fairly soon which means there will be no new transformed at that point.

I am thinking we roll the dice on lynching Simbo because then two things will happen if we are correct. #1, one of the infected become transformed making it one mummy, two transformed and one infected (and that's if the two pervious bites were both successful). Then tonight's bite will fail. If we lynch a non transformed / infected today then we are likely left with one mummy, two transformed and three infected and things are not looking good.

[mauchow]

My votes on him. Not sure who you're talking to.

[Danny]

AND EVEN IF SIMBO IS TELLING THE TRUTH, LYNCHING MAU DOES NOT HELP US

[Zinto]

If you were responding to me Mau, I was speaking in the general you of the whoever reads my post.

[Danny]

My votes on him. Not sure who you're talking to.

Uh, everyone

[Danny]

Just again, even if Mau is the cultist, lynching him still will leave us with a mummy, two transformed and three infected after tonight. There is no upside in lynching Mau. There is significant upside in lynching Simbo

[Zinto]

There is a chance that Danny is infected, and knows he is. He then gets cleared by Mau today(which is not a bad moved if he is fake revealing) and knows that Mau is lying, so he pushed hard for Simbo to be lynched.

[Zinto]

I am not sure how likely that is but it is a possibility.

[Zinto]

Just based on how reveals and counter-reveals work, I will probably vote for Simbo. It makes more sense then probably anyone else that you could vote for based on three days of really no voting records.

[Narcizo]

Yeah, I can't believe that there's still talk about lynching mau. I obviously ought to have pointed out why I thought Raiders voting mau was "bat-shit insane". I just kind of thought that it was obvious.

[Danny]

There is a chance that Danny is infected, and knows he is. He then gets cleared by Mau today(which is not a bad moved if he is fake revealing) and knows that Mau is lying, so he pushed hard for Simbo to be lynched.

This post is illogical captain.

1. If Mau is lying and the cultist, he would have no idea if I was infected or not.

2. If Mau is lying the cultist, I would not know this. Whether or not I am infected, I do not have more information than any villager.

[The Jackal]

I have to agree with Danny/others, there is no sense in lynching mau here. I tend to think it would be best to leave Simbo alive too and force the wolves into a game of chicken to let them see how long they want to leave the seer alive before attacking one of them, but if we're going to vote for one of those two it has to be the one that might be transformed

[The Jackal]

And I believe someone said this as well, if Simbo is transformed, leaving him alive until after EF is dead is actually better for the village, since an infected wouldn't replace him

[Danny]

Remember, infected do not know the roles of anyone. And cultist sure as heck doesn't know who becomes infected

[Danny]

I have to agree with Danny/others, there is no sense in lynching mau here. I tend to think it would be best to leave Simbo alive too and force the wolves into a game of chicken to let them see how long they want to leave the seer alive before attacking one of them, but if we're going to vote for one of those two it has to be the one that might be transformed

nking the cultist isnt so bad. If we leave them both alive, wolves guess on the correct person, likely killing Mau, doesn't hurt them much at all as he is still a villager for win conditions purposes. Additionally we are then left with two extra infected tomorrow.

The current infected would actually be stupid to not try and kill the seer. But in this particular game, there is risk in waiting because it mean more infected.

[Danny]

My vote is not changing

[The Jackal]

Taking out a transformed is always good, this is true

[Zinto]

This post is illogical captain.

1. If Mau is lying and the cultist, he would have no idea if I was infected or not.

2. If Mau is lying the cultist, I would not know this. Whether or not I am infected, I do not have more information than any villager.


I am not saying that he would know that you are infected, I was saying that if he picked you to scan or fake scan and said you were a villager and you were actually infected you could push to lynch Simbo because you would know that he was the seer. I was trying to play devil's advocate but I realized that Mau could just say anyone was a villager and it would not really matter because if he is wrong then the baddies just know he is the cultist.

[Danny]

Also, at BEST we would get one more scan in even if the wolves guess wrong. Because tomorrow night the mummy hunter kills EF and he brutals the seer.

Additionally, if we go to lynch others, yes we will get more vote information, but we will also potentially be lynching the mummy hunter or the doctor. The mummy hunter especially we can not afford to lynch before he takes his night action tonight. Lynching Simbo is the safe and correct call today

[Danny]

I am not saying that he would know that you are infected, I was saying that if he picked you to scan or fake scan and said you were a villager and you were actually infected you could push to lynch Simbo because you would know that he was the seer. I was trying to play devil's advocate but I realized that Mau could just say anyone was a villager and it would not really matter because if he is wrong then the baddies just know he is the cultist.

Ok, this is true. If I was infected, I would know Mau was the cultist then

[Zinto]

I have to agree with Danny/others, there is no sense in lynching mau here. I tend to think it would be best to leave Simbo alive too and force the wolves into a game of chicken to let them see how long they want to leave the seer alive before attacking one of them, but if we're going to vote for one of those two it has to be the one that might be transformed


I changed my mind on keeping him alive till Eagle is gone. The infected would just be smart to nighkill him to switch places with him and make him an incurable infected and them the new transformed.

[The Jackal]

I think Danny is right here, EF will know if Simbo is transformed or not and would be taking out the seer when he dies anyways.

VOTE SIMBO

[JAG]

There is a chance that Danny is infected, and knows he is. He then gets cleared by Mau today(which is not a bad moved if he is fake revealing) and knows that Mau is lying, so he pushed hard for Simbo to be lynched.

That thought went through my head too. Mau has to pick a scan target and chooses Danny. Danny realized mau is the cultist because he cleared him, this he knows Simbo is seer and pushes for his lynch. Remember, yesterday Danny was talking about letting them sort themselves out, today it's different.

The downside of that play is that he becomes an obvious cure target for the doctor, but taking out the seer in a lynch isn't a terrible trade-off.

I'm not saying this is for sure what happened, but I do have some level of uncertainty.

[The Jackal]

I changed my mind on keeping him alive till Eagle is gone. The infected would just be smart to nighkill him to switch places with him and make him an incurable infected and them the new transformed.

Yeah. I guess the seer is boned either today or tomorrow anyways

[Danny]

Remember, yesterday Danny was talking about letting them sort themselves out, today it's different.


Yes, I was discussing that thought, but as I work through the possibilities, that does not seem smart anymore. I am always someone willing and wanting to further work out things in thread and in my head and potentially change my mind

[Zinto]

Ok, so this can really go only a couple of ways:

1. We lynch Simbo. He is the seer, and we find out that his scans were good scans and that Mau is the cultist.

2. We lynch Simbo. He is a transformed and Mau more than likely bites the dust tonight.

3. We lynch someone not named Simbo. We get another day of scans but we take the chance of Simbo being a transformed instead of an infected and becoming an incurable infected. Or he is just and infected so it doesn't matter.

I say that the least risk is lynching Simbo either way we are going to lose our seer before we get another scan in.

[Danny]

I say that the least risk is lynching Simbo either way we are going to lose our seer before we get another scan in.

I agree, plus it guarentees we don't put the mummy hunter in danger tonight

[Danny]

Killing the mummy is of utmost important, probably more so then anything else actually.

[Zinto]

Unless there is enough people that think that extra scan is really valuable then maybe we should take it. I do not think it is worth the extra day of having to have the same discussions tomorrow.

[Danny]

Autumn, if the mummy hunter scans the mummy tonight, but then somehow is killed before tomorrow night, will the mummy still die????

[Danny]

Anyone else get the feeling that CrimsonFox may be the cultist?

[JAG]

Also, at BEST we would get one more scan in even if the wolves guess wrong. Because tomorrow night the mummy hunter kills EF and he brutals the seer.

Additionally, if we go to lynch others, yes we will get more vote information, but we will also potentially be lynching the mummy hunter or the doctor. The mummy hunter especially we can not afford to lynch before he takes his night action tonight. Lynching Simbo is the safe and correct call today

These are pretty hard to argue with points. Worst case we lynch our seer but can start working using his info, best case we prevent an infection tonight and give the doctor / nurses that much more time to find the other infected. Either case we don't accidentally lynch our mummy hunter or doctor (or force them to reveal, which is a likely death sentence).

Unvote LoneStarGirl
Vote Simbo

[Autumn]

Autumn, if the mummy hunter scans the mummy tonight, but then somehow is killed before tomorrow night, will the mummy still die????

No, the Mummy Hunter must be alive to kill the Mummy. There's no time bombs involved.

[EagleFan]

Hi Danny!!!!!

Please keep your vote right where it is.

[EagleFan]

Darth is here!!!!

Welcome Darth. Wow, both Darth and mau are here. This thread is full of wolves now!!!

[GoldenEagle]

I am assuming the mummy hunter already knows who he is.

[EagleFan]

It's been fun watching Danny's paranoia start to get the best of him.

[Narcizo]

1. We lynch Simbo. He is the seer, and we find out that his scans were good scans and that Mau is the cultist.

2. We lynch Simbo. He is a transformed and Mau more than likely bites the dust tonight.

3. We lynch someone not named Simbo. We get another day of scans but we take the chance of Simbo being a transformed instead of an infected and becoming an incurable infected. Or he is just and infected so it doesn't matter.


Yeah it's starting to dawn on me that this isn't like a normal game where sorceror vs seer should be left alone, I'm still only really starting to get my head round the rules.

I'm pretty sure that if he's bad then Simbo is currently a transformer. If an infected tries to night kill him then that person becomes the transformer and Simbo becomes incurably infected. That is bad news for us as we're back at square one with no help to be expected from the seers. If we lynch him then an infected gets "promoted" to being the transformer but the baddies lose their conversion tonight. We would still have to deal with Simbo if we don't lynch him.

Worst case scenario is that we're currently 2 transformed and 2 infected.

1) Say Simbo is evil
a) We lynch him - mau gets night killed and tomorrow we face 2 transformed and 1 infected with no seer left
b) we don't lynch him
i) Simbo is "nightkilled". We face 2 transformed and 3 infected (one of whom is Simbo). Mau gets another scan in.
ii) mau is nightkilled. We face 2 transformed (one of whom is Simbo) and 3 infected. Infected can night kill Simbo tomorrow.

2) Simbo is good
a) we lynch him - tomorrow we face 2 transformed and 3 infected. No seer left. Mau gets to gloat at us.
b)
i) we don't lynch him and he's night killed. Tomorrow we face 2 transformed and 3 infected. No scan.
ii) mau is night killed - Simbo gets an extra scan in. Tomorrow we face 2 transformed and 3 infected

Looking at it that way it comes down to how much faith we have in Simbo being good. Because if we think he's bad then we should lynch him.

Personally I just can't see why Eagle plays the way he did yesterday if Simbo isn't bad. It makes no sense to me. I get more of a blundering villager vibe from mau than anything else.

Unvote Britrock
Vote Simbo

[EagleFan]

Will the mummy hunter please stand up? We need to know who we can trust!

[GoldenEagle]

Simbo "scanned" me as good, which is correct. But that really does mean much at this point, I don't suppose.

[EagleFan]

Yeah it's starting to dawn on me that this isn't like a normal game where sorceror vs seer should be left alone, I'm still only really starting to get my head round the rules.

I'm pretty sure that if he's bad then Simbo is currently a transformer. If an infected tries to night kill him then that person becomes the transformer and Simbo becomes incurably infected. That is bad news for us as we're back at square one with no help to be expected from the seers. If we lynch him then an infected gets "promoted" to being the transformer but the baddies lose their conversion tonight. We would still have to deal with Simbo if we don't lynch him.

Worst case scenario is that we're currently 2 transformed and 2 infected.

1) Say Simbo is evil
a) We lynch him - mau gets night killed and tomorrow we face 2 transformed and 1 infected with no seer left
b) we don't lynch him
i) Simbo is "nightkilled". We face 2 transformed and 3 infected (one of whom is Simbo). Mau gets another scan in.
ii) mau is nightkilled. We face 2 transformed (one of whom is Simbo) and 3 infected. Infected can night kill Simbo tomorrow.

2) Simbo is good
a) we lynch him - tomorrow we face 2 transformed and 3 infected. No seer left. Mau gets to gloat at us.
b)
i) we don't lynch him and he's night killed. Tomorrow we face 2 transformed and 3 infected. No scan.
ii) mau is night killed - Simbo gets an extra scan in. Tomorrow we face 2 transformed and 3 infected

Looking at it that way it comes down to how much faith we have in Simbo being good. Because if we think he's bad then we should lynch him.

Personally I just can't see why Eagle plays the way he did yesterday if Simbo isn't bad. It makes no sense to me. I get more of a blundering villager vibe from mau than anything else.

Unvote Britrock
Vote Simbo

No No No!!!!

That time zone difference has warped your brain.

Don't make that vote!

Maybe we should all vote Danny. That way we strike first before he can be infected! Unless he has already.... Never mind, forget I said to vote Danny.

[Narcizo]

Simbo "scanned" me as good, which is correct. But that really does mean much at this point, I don't suppose.

Tomorrow it might. Or it might not. Hopefully not.

[Darth Vilus]

Darth is here!!!!

Welcome Darth. Wow, both Darth and mau are here. This thread is full of wolves now!!!

You're going down Dirty Rags

[Narcizo]

Well, sorry I haven't contributed as much as I would have liked today. Things got hectic at work and then I spent about half an hour making that post up there and trying to run through the possibilities. Hopefully we will enter tomorrow with the knowledge that there's only one, possibly none, infected out there.

[KWhit]

Posting from my phone, so I can't contribute much from work. But I want to make sure I get a vote in. Looks like Simbo makes the most sense right now, though I kind of hate to do it. If I have time later I may dig through the thread to see if anyone.else jumps out at me, but for now:

Vote Simbo

[Zinto]

Well there is not much debate going on so I will


Vote Simbo

[Darth Vilus]

There's a very disturbing idea that I think we should consider before we jump the gun on anything....

[Zinto]

What is your idea, Darth?

[Darth Vilus]

EF has been locked in a sarcophagus for a few thousand years so....what has he done to entertain himself all that time?

YELCH!!!

[LoneStarGirl]

Oh and we're on day 4 and Kwhit has 7 total posts in the whole thread.

1. Signing up
2. Comment about Le Michele
3. Complaint about me switching votes
4. Apology for missing day 1 vote
5. vote of chief rum with no explanation
6. night fall vote with no explanation
7. vote of eagle last night with no explanation

That means he's probably a boring vanilla.... or this game is too intricate for him. But I am down for lynching him either way :D

[LoneStarGirl]

There is a chance that Danny is infected, and knows he is.

I thought everyone who got infected knew when they were infected?

[GoldenEagle]

Are we going to have another run away vote today where the wolves can just hide all their votes on the likely cultist?

VOTE JAG

I don't really like his random vote on LSG and he is already moved off of her to the popular candidate at the moment. I am not a big fan of that.

[Danny]

Are we going to have another run away vote today where the wolves can just hide all their votes on the likely cultist?

VOTE JAG

I don't really like his random vote on LSG and he is already moved off of her to the popular candidate at the moment. I am not a big fan of that.

Here's another cultist.

[Autumn]

Day 4 Vote Count

simbo klice (7) - mauboy, danny, the jackal, JAG, narcizo, kwhit, zinto
zinto (1) - britrock88
mauboy (3) - raiders army, EagleFan, crimsonfox
JAG (1) - goldeneagle

[EagleFan]

Bad lynch vote today. Vote mau. Or go with the Danny vote. That would be an epic move. A preemptive strike to confuse the wolves!

[EagleFan]

unvote mau

Vote Danny

[EagleFan]

This will give you one chance to tell the wolves. That they may take your lives, but they will never take your Danny!!!

[JAG]

Are we going to have another run away vote today where the wolves can just hide all their votes on the likely cultist?

VOTE JAG

I don't really like his random vote on LSG and he is already moved off of her to the popular candidate at the moment. I am not a big fan of that.

Read post 1016. I've been consistent with my thoughts since mid yesterday and just selected a different target based on thinking about posts from Danny and Zinto.

[Simbo Klice]

Eh, I can't even deny that Risk/Reward I'm the safest play. Won't hit the Mummy Hunter, not just the cultist, marked for death anyway... Still, I can't believe you would compare my post content to mauboy's and come up with me as the bad guy.

vote mauboy

Hate doing it, but literally anyone else can just claim they're the mummy hunter for the next two days and you'll just have to leave them be until Day 6.

[EagleFan]

Jackal!!!

Join me in my crusade brother!

[The Jackal]

Jackal!!!

Join me in my crusade brother!

Hmm, when you put it that way...

no.

[The Jackal]

Although everyone knows I enjoy medieval references.

[Darth Vilus]

Vote Simbo Klice

Forgot to do that earlier

[CrimsonFox]

heh I wasn't serious. Just wanted to play chicken with EF and see what he and his cronies would do. He's very amusing.

unvote mauboy

[CrimsonFox]

Back from my back crack and omg it hurts.

[CrimsonFox]

and btw the way seattle FUCK YOU! dumped rain on me when I was 5 blocks from home.

[The Jackal]

Hey now, it's Chief Seattle day!

[The Jackal]

Hope your back heals quickly CF

[CrimsonFox]

Between that and my tooth I'm kind of a mess.

[Passacaglia]

Not sure if I'll get a better vote in later, so I'll just vote this way to 'make it a race' which I usually hate.

VOTE MAUBOY1

[LoneStarGirl]

45 minutes left?

vote simbo klice

[The Jackal]

Just an FYI I will be out most of the day tomorrow, as I said before the game started. Wedding, fuuuun. Will check in on my phone when I can!

[mauchow]

It shouldn't be me vs Simbo. Should be simbo vs another possible transformed/infected. Neither of which has come up. What gives?

[mauchow]

I'd a count check but kid in arms...

[Autumn]

simbo klice (9) - mauboy, danny, the jackal, JAG, narcizo, kwhit, zinto, darth vilus, lonestargirl
zinto (1) - britrock88
mauboy (3) - raiders army, simbo klice, passacaglia
JAG (1) - goldeneagle
Danny (1) - EagleFan

[mauchow]

Down to what is likely to be my final hour and 7 minutes of the game.

[CrimsonFox]

No real point in another on the pile. But I figured there'd be more even things today.

[CrimsonFox]

I did wanna vote simbo earlier. I still could I guess.

[mauchow]

Looks like you guys never really faced off like the Princess Bride after all...