Is the SEC really that dominant or overrated???

[seasprite]

Quote: Originally Posted by Amoo316

At least now we know why you have been so bitter for a while now

Numb would be a better word...........................



Back to conference pride, I forgot to go get my Alabama Championship T-shirt to show off my conference pride.

[Amoo316]

In all seriousness I think in his last point he makes legitimate points. We all know I'm a coaches and coordinators guy, so outside of my few main teams I root for different teams from year to year, but I think a lot of SEC fans feel the same way he describes.

[seasprite]

Quote: Originally Posted by Amoo316

In all seriousness I think in his last point he makes legitimate points. We all know I'm a coaches and coordinators guy, so outside of my few main teams I root for different teams from year to year, but I think a lot of SEC fans feel the same way he describes.

I as well, but Bama, LSU, and Florida winning championships does not do anything positive for my team, anymore than a team in the PAC-12 winning it. But, while bottom-tier SEC team fans are chanting S...E....C...., they are getting further behind in recruiting and losing ground while their higher classed SEC bretheren are winning 'ships. I just dont get it

[lonewolf371]

Quote: Originally Posted by Amoo316

I only brought up bowl records because dude was using rankings which determine bowl seeding. Either way did you just argue and say my bowl records were garbage, then say use this instead but you're still right?

Yup. However, the site I posted reveals a few problems with the AP Poll:

Ohio State and Notre Dame were too high
Florida was too low
Louisville wasn't ranked properly
Clemson barely belonged in the top 25
Kansas State and Oklahoma were really underrated
Vanderbilt was really overrated due to the SEC effect

I think this also confirms how top-heavy the SEC was last year. The bottom of the conference really wasn't all that great. There is a lot of evidence that says the SEC is on top, but bowl games by themselves are a very poor measuring stick. The fact that some SEC fan made a web page on how to interpret the results in different ways shows how poor it is.

[football200414]

Quote: Originally Posted by seasprite

Numb would be a better word........................... Back to conference pride, I forgot to go get my Alabama Championship T-shirt to show off my conference pride.

Now, I'm not going so far as buying another team's shirt but I do have conference pride. I know it may look like I'm trying to ride coattails being a Kentucky fan, but it's not just football either. Kentucky is hands-down the most dominant basketball program in the SEC almost every year, but I would like to see the rest of the SEC get better so we can rival the ACC better.

[Amoo316]

Quote: Originally Posted by lonewolf371

Yup. However, the site I posted reveals a few problems with the AP Poll: Ohio State and Notre Dame were too high Florida was too low Louisville wasn't ranked properly Clemson barely belonged in the top 25 Kansas State and Oklahoma were really underrated Vanderbilt was really overrated due to the SEC effect I think this also confirms how top-heavy the SEC was last year. The bottom of the conference really wasn't all that great. There is a lot of evidence that says the SEC is on top, but bowl games by themselves are a very poor measuring stick.

As a Florida fan, we're just going to have to agree to disagree, there is no way Florida was the #5 team in the country last year. Sure they beat A&M, but A&M had them on the ropes after the first half and if it wasn't Johnny's first big SEC game I think they win that game. Bama, LSU, UGA, Oregon, Stanford were all definitely better then UF and by the end of the year, A&M was and ND deserved to be based on wins/losses.

[football200414]

Quote: Originally Posted by seasprite

I as well, but Bama, LSU, and Florida winning championships does not do anything positive for my team, anymore than a team in the PAC-12 winning it. But, while bottom-tier SEC team fans are chanting S...E....C...., they are getting further behind in recruiting and losing ground while their higher classed SEC bretheren are winning 'ships. I just dont get it

You might want to check the 2014 recruiting class rankings. Kentucky currently has the #5 class in the nation with Stoops at the helm. We're chanting SEC but we're finally doing something to make some noise and that should translate to more success on the field as well.

[jonpt]

Quote: Originally Posted by Amoo316

This has been the recent argument people have been using, and sadly, everytime bowl season happens, it has shown that the majority of the time, those rankings were warranted.

Another interesting question for me is the converse. Why do people hate so much against an entire conference? Would like to get some outsider opinions. I quote your post because you say sadly like your rooting for the conference to lose. So many fans outside say it's pathetic to root for a conference but IMO it's just as pathetic or worse to root against one. Same logic as far as I can tell. And I know lot of the hate goes to people pulling for the conference like it's their own team. But also the reverse applies. Many fans in the SEC pull for SEC team out of conference because of the hate.