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Old 04-28-2009, 12:36 PM   #73
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Lighting looks AMAZING! I'm stoked
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:44 PM   #74
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gameplay is almost idenitcal to 2009.
Admittedly the gameplay looks a lot better. dline/oline interaction looks great. Tebow made a horribly underthrown pass, I'd assume on default sliders, which really bodes well for how realistic the passing game will be.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:27 PM   #75
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Im not to fond of the turning on a dime either but I think that the game LOOKS the way a college football atmosphere should, player models look realistic (they actually look like athletic people) just look at demps and tebow in their stances. As i've discovered in the past tho, these videos EA puts out are often misleading. This is coming from someone that still plays 09 so it's not like I hated the game I just think some things needed to be fixed and I hope they were.
OL/DL interaction BIG step up!
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:29 PM   #76
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He gets +2 at one point for stopping an option.

Now, I'm not as familiar with Florida's IRL playbook as I am with some other teams, but I'm trying to figure it out.

There's Jet motion from the left slot receiver and Tebow's apparantly meshing with this guy on an option.

The tackles both block the defensive ends, so Tebow's not reading either of those guys.
The LG and C double on the DT on the left (and it looks pretty cool - they get some movement on him).

The RG pulls and wraps around the LT and leaves the DT unblocked and the TE and RB go block at the second level (which gets in the backfield insanely fast).

So presumably Tebow's optioning the DT. Is this midline?
If so, Tebow would be looking to run outside of the guy he's meshing with, not to the opposite side (where the LG is pulling to), as he looks like he's trying to.

Some sort of middle zone-read?
Just a continuation of the dumb, unrealistic blocking schemes from the last few years?

Someone help me out here.

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Old 04-28-2009, 01:30 PM   #77
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seems the same gameplay wise. No change in my eyes. The cut on the dime and running animation all seems soooooooo fast and arcade.
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He gets +2 at one point for stopping an option.

Now, I'm not as familiar with Florida's IRL playbook as I am with some other teams, but I'm trying to figure it out.

There's Jet motion from the left slot receiver and Tebow's apparantly meshing with this guy on an option.

The tackles both block the defensive ends, so Tebow's not reading either of those guys.
The LG and C double on the DT on the left (and it looks pretty cool - they get some movement on him).

The RG pulls and wraps around the LT and leaves the DT unblocked and the TE and RB go block at the second level (which gets in the backfield insanely fast).

So presumably Tebow's optioning the DT. Is this midline?
If so, Tebow would be looking to run outside of the guy he's meshing with, not to the opposite side (where the LG is pulling to), as he looks like he's trying to.

Some sort of middle zone-read?
Just a continuation of the dumb, unrealistic blocking schemes from the last few years?

Someone help me out here.
Finally someone who speaks real football!
I'm not sure if it's midline or a zone read because i've never seen midline done with a motioning WR but I would assume that it's a zone read because the blocking leaves one tackle go free therefore leaving tebow the option to take it if the DT focuses more on the WR...or just EAs bad knowledge of actual football plays.
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Finally someone who speaks real football!
I'm not sure if it's midline or a zone read because i've never seen midline done with a motioning WR but I would assume that it's a zone read because the blocking leaves one tackle go free therefore leaving tebow the option to take it if the DT focuses more on the WR...or just EAs bad knowledge of actual football plays.

Yeah, it's hard to do midline from the Shotgun in the first place

(I think Tony Demeo from Charleston does it, however ----- everyone should look his offense up on youtube, it's amazing)

and even tougher with a guy having to slow down to take that angle into the line of scrimmage.

It looks like a zone read but the traditional ZR has the QB read the BACKSIDE defensive end, the side where there would someone pulling FROM

So:

S S

CB LB LB LB CB
DE T T DE
X------------LT-LG-C-RG-RT---------------Z
------Y----------------H--------------------
--------------------Q-RB--------------------

This is the set we're looking at, right?

A regular zone read with Y as the potential ball carrier would have the LT pull to the right, leaving the defensive end over the LT unblocked. If he follows Y across the formation, the QB would pull the ball and take off to the left. If that defensive end stayed at home, the QB would give the ball and they would have numbers blocking on the right side.

That's ONE way to do it, and I'm sure there are other, better ways. The disadvantage of this way is that with the slot being the guy the QB meshes with, the OLB on that side is now unblocked too, and not because he's being optioned off of. So, there is probably a better way.

But what we're looking at is not the ZR and I'd honestly like to know what it is. I'm not super-knowledgable about Florida's playbook, so this could well be a well-executed play that's actually in their playbook.
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to me it looks like Tebow is supposed to run left and follow his blockers there or hand off to the motion man for a sort of speed sweep run. The TE looks to get a piece of the DT then goes for right middle backer and #2 is supposed to get a piece of the right DT which would allow the speed sweep back to get to the outside if he got the ball, but it looks like the RB misses the block and just goes to the MLB instead. But it def looks like Tebow should have ran to the outside on the left which is why the RG pulls left. Because 90% of the time the guard is going to take you to the play, he's not going to pull somewhere as a decoy or for no reason. The only other thought would be if it was never designed to go to the motion man and he was supposed to pick up the DT but missed, but that would be a terrible play design. But the only 2 options appear to be hand off to the motion man or QB keep.
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