NCAA Football 11: "Useless Plays" now Useful?

[AuburnAlumni]

I think most NCAA gamers would agree that many of the plays in a given playbook were essentially useless either via horrid run blocking or horrid pass blocking.

Shotgun-HB Draw, QB Read Option

Bubble Screens

Many pass patterns as well were useless due to super human AI at LB or took too long to develop.

Draw plays have been useless for years because defenders would absolutely destroy the CPU blockers and drop you for a loss 9 times out of 10.

Read option was useless because the blocking logic was so out of whack.

And Bubble screens stunk because of a combination of many factors. Horrid blocking, and super human DBs who stuck to the Receiver like glue.

Combine those with many plays that don't even exist in NCAA 10 and are critical parts of certain offenses....the middle WR screen for example which is a base play in the Texas Tech offense and Reverses...which are used by everybody.

I'm anxious to see if we will actually have a playbook full of effective plays as opposed to utilizing only 30-40% of a playbook because the rest of the plays are worthless in a game situation.

The new AI logic vid gets me excited about running a Spread offense at Auburn again, but I'm anxious to see if they added Reverses and many more screen plays.

[matthodgeto]

I've always felt that screen plays, whether to running backs or receivers, were just awkward and incorrect. Plus, they needed a bigger variety of screen passes.

Now, I don't know that they have improved the variety, but I hope the existing screen plays feel much more accurate now.

Oh, and as you mentioned, where are reverses (or for that matter, double or triple reverses)? Sure, they have end-arounds, but they don't have true reverses for some reason.

[Dr Death]

Quote: Originally Posted by matthodgeto

I've always felt that screen plays, whether to running backs or receivers, were just awkward and incorrect. Plus, they needed a bigger variety of screen passes. Now, I don't know that they have improved the variety, but I hope the existing screen plays feel much more accurate now. Oh, and as you mentioned, where are reverses (or for that matter, double or triple reverses)? Sure, they have end-arounds, but they don't have true reverses for some reason.

In the video they released titled Offensive Styles they show about as true a Bubble Screen as they've ever had in EA. It's the Clemson Tigers they show do it. You see the play diagrammed on the field and then the far left WR {X} runs down the line toward the LT and catches the ball and heads upfield w/ blockers in front.

That's the best I've seen in an EA game... hoping they have this and several more, including... ahem... SHOVEL PASSES... in 11...

[Hova57]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Death

In the video they released titled Offensive Styles they show about as true a Bubble Screen as they've ever had in EA. It's the Clemson Tigers they show do it. You see the play diagrammed on the field and then the far left WR {X} runs down the line toward the LT and catches the ball and heads upfield w/ blockers in front. That's the best I've seen in an EA game... hoping they have this and several more, including... ahem... SHOVEL PASSES... in 11...

i second the shovel pass

[DonkeyJote]

Qb Read wasn't useless in NCAA 10. I used it all the time with Oregon. You just made your read off the strong side linebacker instead of the end. It wasn't run the way it was supposed to, but it was far from useless. I broke a lot of big runs with it. It should be more fun to run this year, however.

[NikB13]

I also noticed that in the QB read you had to make the read off the linebacker. I used Oregon's play book and it worked for me as well. not as effective as real life, but still worked.

Also I dont think any play bothers me more than the screen passes. I cant list the countless times iv thrown it to a receiver who was running backwards after he caught it or something where the animation would trigger and he would like juke really slowly to try to start running when there is wide open field in front of him and would get stopped for a loss like every time.

Please fix the screen passes EA PLEASE!!!

[Palo20]

Locomotion will really be put to the test with the read option. If a user controlled DE has true momentum, he will have to make a decision on QB or RB. I wonder how it will work. Also wonder how well the CPU reads the DE?

[str8artist]

"Useless plays"? I disagree. You can run any of those plays according to what the defense gives you. I run the SHOTGUN HB draw and the bubble screen. Learn how to setup plays and have some type of strat and they will work.