will this new tackle engine give

[ultralow36]

us that live fill where anything can happen?Kind of like what backbreaker was tring to give us..what do you think it will impact the most...

[PaperBoyx703]

No not like BB. But it will take away the bs suction on tackles, blocking, and receiver sliding into position to make a catch. The tackle animations will be more fluid and make more sense.

[mikehud]

BB's physics were nice, but i think they were a little over played. i had too many instances of some really wild tackles if i just brushed into some dudes leg running through the hole. but i cut them cats some slack, they are brits and that was their 1st game.

[canes21]

Quote: Originally Posted by mikehud

BB's physics were nice, but i think they were a little over played. i had too many instances of some really wild tackles if i just brushed into some dudes leg running through the hole. but i cut them cats some slack, they are brits and that was their 1st game.

Being British has nothing to do with how they can produce a game, even one about an American sport.

The tackling was sensitive and over the top in Backbreaker, but it also offered some realism other games have failed to give us. The main problems with Backbreaker were the players were floaty, the player's body parts didn't restrict from bending awkwardly, and the animations were a bit robotic like Madden on next gen.

If Backbreaker had joints, muscles, and bones behave properly and made players have a lot more weight to them, then I think tackles and everything else would look a lot more realistic and the game would be what most of us had imagined at the start.

[mikehud]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

Being British has nothing to do with how they can produce a game, even one about an American sport. The tackling was sensitive and over the top in Backbreaker, but it also offered some realism other games have failed to give us. The main problems with Backbreaker were the players were floaty, the player's body parts didn't restrict from bending awkwardly, and the animations were a bit robotic like Madden on next gen. If Backbreaker had joints, muscles, and bones behave properly and made players have a lot more weight to them, then I think tackles and everything else would look a lot more realistic and the game would be what most of us had imagined at the start.

good stuff. that's where my thoughts were headed, but work interrupted

[Hova57]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

Being British has nothing to do with how they can produce a game, even one about an American sport. The tackling was sensitive and over the top in Backbreaker, but it also offered some realism other games have failed to give us. The main problems with Backbreaker were the players were floaty, the player's body parts didn't restrict from bending awkwardly, and the animations were a bit robotic like Madden on next gen. If Backbreaker had joints, muscles, and bones behave properly and made players have a lot more weight to them, then I think tackles and everything else would look a lot more realistic and the game would be what most of us had imagined at the start.

The only reason why it looked like that was the ragdoll animations they had to use in order for the tackling to work right. something EA is trying to avoid.

[blkrptnt819]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hova57

The only reason why it looked like that was the ragdoll animations they had to use in order for the tackling to work right. something EA is trying to avoid.

I noticed a little bit of this in the NCAA 12 videos though. I did not like it at all. The ragdoll effect that bb gives players is the only thing I don't like about it's euphoria system.

[berad88]

Backbreaker did nothing but give ragdoll animations which is not something new. Backbreaker is way over rated when it comes to its physics. I think thats probably why they made their players look so futuristic looking. They knew the ragdoll animations would be over the top. That game is a complete bore to me and the stuff EA is doing looks more authentic in my opinion. Backbreaker had a nice idea but that technology is not ready for a major game yet.