NCAA Football 13 Gameplay Trailer

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

Good post as most of yours are RG, I will definitely be hollering at you when Madden gets into full swing. I definitely try to give credit when credit is due, they've just made it so much harder this gen. I think another one of the problems is they think a lot of the stuff they do is "cool" until people tell em like hey, that's not what we want, we want realism. Which is why I'm glad EA is interacting more, because sometimes they honestly really just don't get it.

Let's hope this changes with Cam Weber in charge. Not to take anything away from past leadership, but based on the changes to game play(need to see if they still work), I think and feel it's a step in the right direction.

I've already said earlier in this thread, I don't see animations or physics being worked on till new consoles come out, but I've been wrong before.

[poster]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

One more thing I'd like to add, might get a little hate for this, but idk, seems like EA has a little bit of tunnel vision when developing these games every year. Seems like they focus on a certain aspect and that's it. More info could come out, but it just seems to me like if I were working on the passing game I'd work on every aspect. Penalties, OL/DL, QB styles, WR DB interaction, as well as what they did, then it would be a little but more understandable if the running game wasn't touched on. Just seems to me they choose to work on the game in compartments instead of on a whole. It's just like when they added refs but didn't add the chain gangs. It's like all they see is the one goal they set and don't see anything else. Respect for what they do though, I appreciate the effort they put into getting us information now. The podcasts and interaction is definitely the best thing about this generation coming from EA/Tiburon. Shout out to all those who still get the most out of this game.

I am not a fan of them doing things this way either. EA has always seemed to do things half way, half-baked, etc., seems to have been this way for years. You always end up thinking that they could have done more in a certain area.

I remember last year with Madden and their player introductions. They just showed key players on offense and defense, instead of the whole starting lineup for each unit. After people complained, they said they wanted to do "bite-sized" introductions. It was typical EA Sports in action, not sure how in the world they thought that was "cool" or a welcome feature. Either do it right or don't do it at all. On top of that, it never changed from game to game. The same players every game. It was so poor and frustrating, especially when they claimed they wanted it to be a broadcast presentation.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by poster

I am not a fan of them doing things this way either. EA has always seemed to do things half way, half-baked, etc., seems to have been this way for years. You always end up thinking that they could have done more in a certain area. I remember last year with Madden and their player introductions. They just showed key players on offense and defense, instead of the whole starting lineup for each unit. After people complained, they said they wanted to do "bite-sized" introductions. It was typical EA Sports in action, not sure how in the world they thought that was "cool" or a welcome feature. Either do it right or don't do it at all. On top of that, it never changed from game to game. The same players every game. It was so poor and frustrating, especially when they claimed they wanted it to be a broadcast presentation.

Exactly. Another example of how they think things are fine and should be that way. I just don't get it.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Let's hope this changes with Cam Weber in charge. Not to take anything away from past leadership, but based on the changes to game play(need to see if they still work), I think and feel it's a step in the right direction. I've already said earlier in this thread, I don't see animations or physics being worked on till new consoles come out, but I've been wrong before.

I definitely see the change, as NCAA 11 and 12 have shown a refocus on realism. May be baby steps, but at least they are steps. I truly pray they come out really swinging for next gen. I don't expect the "end all, be all" to be the first next gen football game, but I pray they foundation is there to build something amazing.

[ultralow36]

Quote: Originally Posted by Phobia

Ok maybe the hook line and sinker was a tad childish. But seriously we have this same debate every year. Hell I was on the other side of the fence defending the changes and improvements last year. But the same trend always continues about the game being hyped out of control and then falling far short of what people would like. The same people not wanting to hear about the short comings will be the ones coming here complaining that the game is STILL lack luster and the improvements minor. Mark my words this will happen. You might not agree with my comments now, but you agree more after several months with the game in your hands. @Ramminyou - It is not just the short clips being the point. It is that the game itself, not football that doesn't change. See the problem is everyone talks about the same issues year in and year out. The core game remains the same and has for years. So the same problems continue to carry over year after year after year. Where is the large improvements? I understand there is minor improvements, but the game has bigger issues that need tending to. You would think in 5 years they could improve the animations, the blocking, running animations, hell all the animations to begin with, feeling of weight (less zip zag running).....on and on.

OK fare enough



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[ultralow36]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

I am all for these improvements. Psychic db's was one of the most disgusting things I've seen in football. I'm glad they're gone, but it seems people get offended when you aren't impressed about the improvements EA made. The passing game overhaul was definitely overdue, but things being added like trajectories is just a little idk, it's just funny to me EA thought it was cool to have 2 trajectories. Like they didn't see anything wrong with it for years, lol, and I'm supposed to be excited that they finally realized this? Lol. It's just funny to me. I will enjoy the game for what it is with my limited time with it, but getting excited now is something I just can't do. I've owned every NCAA game, and I guess the excitement from these improvements is so low for me because the base of the engine(s) was so bad to begin with. Here's to next gen and hoping they decide to go with a more sim based foundation. Props to the devs for all the hardwork, shame on EA/Tiburon for such terrible focus and vision for all these years. Look no further than the back of NCAA 10 for evidence of this.

sound like MLB the show 12,NBA 2k12 very minor undated some like some complain I mean MLB the show has a lot of issues and they market ball physics really....same with 2k basketball a lot of issues and they market classic teams really...its not just NCAA its sports games after 6yrs its only so much there going to do.....and yes those games have problems over looked for years.



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[ultralow36]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

LOL. Thanks my dude. Glad we share the same opinion. It's just funny to me how guys get mad or offended like I bash this game just because they enjoy the game as is. I'm a huge fan of NBA 2k, but I don't react like that when guys don't enjoy it like me.

why do u think people get offended I'm.just having a conversation .....I'm 37 I have played every Madden and NCAA made...the thing is I remember the crap they where and I do not pretend they where some God sent....




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[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by ultralow36

sound like MLB the show 12,NBA 2k12 very minor undated some like some complain I mean MLB the show has a lot of issues and they market ball physics really....same with 2k basketball a lot of issues and they market classic teams really...its not just NCAA its sports games after 6yrs its only so much there going to do.....and yes those games have problems over looked for years. Sent from my LG-P925 using Tapatalk

Of course all games have problems, but those games overall represent their sports better than NCAA/Madden. This is clear. Also what's marketed is not all that is worked on in those games. With EA/Tiburon, whatever they market is what you get. 9/10 if it isn't discussed, it hasn't been touched.