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  • canes21
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 22893

    #1

    canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

    We're back!

    Yep, wasn't sure I'd ever be making a slider set for a college football game again, but here we are. 11 years in the making. Below I will create a rough outline that gets those unfamiliar with my slider sets a chance to understand what I aim for.

    If it turns out my sliders don't sound like something you're as interested in, fear not, this community is full of excellent slider makers and there are going to be a number of quality sets you can use.

    Everybody plays a bit differently, we all have different skill levels, and this place often has enough slider sets to cover just about everyone out there.

    What My Sliders Aim For
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    What Skill Level Are We Shooting For
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    A Need to Understand the Game's Limitations
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    These Sliders Serve as a Base
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    Do You Use Any House Rules
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    With all that said, once 4pm gets here today, you can bet I will be grinding out play now games all over the country seeing all the different sights and sounds, the different teams, and I will be working very hard to try and get a slider set ready to go as soon as possible.

    As always, whenever an updated set comes out, I will post them in the thread, but the OP will also always have the updated set in it along with all prior versions I've posted. So, if I have released a 1.0 and then 3 subsequent sets and you feel one of the prior sets played better for you, I will always leave them up behind some spoilers so that you always have access to them and can go back to using them.

    I'm not trying to gate keep anyone here. At the end of the day, we're all just looking to have a good time with this game and I am simply hoping my slider sets can help at least one person out there other than myself have an even better time with they might otherwise have.

    LAHC Post Patch - Needed a soft reset on the sliders after all the patches, so this is where we currently are right now as of 10.29.24.

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    Last edited by canes21; 10-29-2024, 11:11 AM. Reason: LAHC 2.0
    “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


    ― Plato
  • jdb7623
    Rookie
    • Jun 2003
    • 186

    #2
    Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

    Would your sliders be applicable to a coach mode setup?

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    • canes21
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 22893

      #3
      Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

      Originally posted by jdb7623
      Would your sliders be applicable to a coach mode setup?
      I honestly don't know. I've never tried my sliders with coach mode. I think they would potentially provide a decent base with some things needing some boosts to it. Like, I expect my USER QB Accuracy and Run Blocking values are going to be pretty low based off how I see the game is tuned in the videos and those are values that are fine lowered for a user controlled team, but may need to be boosted a little for coach mode.

      Things like Pass Coverage and whatnot won't need as many adjustments potentially since I already play No Switch and those are areas that are more CPU player dependent anyways, so they'll already be tuned for CPU control if that makes any sense. Feels like I worded that terribly. Basically, the areas of the game the user has the least impact on I think will work for coach mode, but the other areas that are influenced more by user skill would probably need some adjustments for coach mode.
      “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


      ― Plato

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      • BarfytheOwl
        Pro
        • Sep 2016
        • 608

        #4
        Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

        Can't wait man, your set was my favorite for Madden and I'm on board with using yours as my base again.

        Some things I've already noticed in my test games:

        12min/20 accel may be a little too long for this game, too much scoring in the few games I played with that.

        I've got my speed threshold at 75 and I'm loving the way it's playing, I feel like that's a good place to start if things feel too fast.

        Injuries at default may be a tad too high, most likely to do with the wear and tear system. I love the idea behind it, but in both play now and RTG, the default setting (10 and 25), has produced injuries on like 6 plays in a row, mostly in the late 3rd and 4th quarters, and mostly in the trenches. I don't think it needs a massive adjustment, but it seems too high right now.

        Of course we'll have to see if the release patch fixes any of the above, but I figured I'd give you some info on what I'm seeing so far. Loving the game even with its flaws, I think it's very close to a great game of football out of the box.

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        Buffalo Bills, Toronto Blue Jays, Ottawa Senators, Milwaukee Bucks.

        Currently listening to: Ice Nine Kills

        PSN: Sentient_Ooze

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        • youngdave
          Rookie
          • Oct 2020
          • 6

          #5
          Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

          Loved your madden 24 set, and was very thrilled to see this post. Much appreciation for your efforts brother!!

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          • Kramer5150
            Medicore Mike
            • Dec 2002
            • 7384

            #6
            Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

            Originally posted by BarfytheOwl
            Can't wait man, your set was my favorite for Madden and I'm on board with using yours as my base again.

            Some things I've already noticed in my test games:

            12min/20 accel may be a little too long for this game, too much scoring in the few games I played with that.

            I've got my speed threshold at 75 and I'm loving the way it's playing, I feel like that's a good place to start if things feel too fast.

            Injuries at default may be a tad too high, most likely to do with the wear and tear system. I love the idea behind it, but in both play now and RTG, the default setting (10 and 25), has produced injuries on like 6 plays in a row, mostly in the late 3rd and 4th quarters, and mostly in the trenches. I don't think it needs a massive adjustment, but it seems too high right now.

            Of course we'll have to see if the release patch fixes any of the above, but I figured I'd give you some info on what I'm seeing so far. Loving the game even with its flaws, I think it's very close to a great game of football out of the box.

            Sent from my SM-S127DL using Operation Sports mobile app
            In my (so far) game and a half, I have had completely different results..

            1-playing with 15 min and runoff to 12 was perfect for what I was looking for.

            2-Speed thresh- I always have put it on 95, and for this game is no different, and yes there still is separation and no LB's don't catch up to WR's

            3-Injuries- I raised to 50 and have not witnessed anything that drew a "red flag"...

            I also went in and zeroed out hum rb, and while the running felt a bit more difficult it was no where what I witnessed in Madden...which was WAY too easy.

            I'm sure Canes will come up with a great set, just mentioning what I've witnessed so far.
            People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
            “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
            “Quarterbacks should wear dresses.” Jack Lambert

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            • BarfytheOwl
              Pro
              • Sep 2016
              • 608

              #7
              Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

              Originally posted by Kramer5150
              In my (so far) game and a half, I have had completely different results..

              1-playing with 15 min and runoff to 12 was perfect for what I was looking for.

              2-Speed thresh- I always have put it on 95, and for this game is no different, and yes there still is separation and no LB's don't catch up to WR's

              3-Injuries- I raised to 50 and have not witnessed anything that drew a "red flag"...

              I also went in and zeroed out hum rb, and while the running felt a bit more difficult it was no where what I witnessed in Madden...which was WAY too easy.

              I'm sure Canes will come up with a great set, just mentioning what I've witnessed so far.
              Fwiw, I'm seeing the injuries mostly in RTG, in play now they happened too but in RTG its been nuts. But like I said above it's mostly in the late 3rd and into the 4th it starts happening, that's why I think it's tied to wear and tear.

              Sent from my SM-S127DL using Operation Sports mobile app
              Buffalo Bills, Toronto Blue Jays, Ottawa Senators, Milwaukee Bucks.

              Currently listening to: Ice Nine Kills

              PSN: Sentient_Ooze

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              • Kramer5150
                Medicore Mike
                • Dec 2002
                • 7384

                #8
                Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                Originally posted by BarfytheOwl
                Fwiw, I'm seeing the injuries mostly in RTG, in play now they happened too but in RTG its been nuts. But like I said above it's mostly in the late 3rd and into the 4th it starts happening, that's why I think it's tied to wear and tear.

                Sent from my SM-S127DL using Operation Sports mobile app
                Oh okay, gotcha.
                People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
                “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
                “Quarterbacks should wear dresses.” Jack Lambert

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                • canes21
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 22893

                  #9
                  Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                  After playing too much and staying up way too late, I've got a set that I have played a good amount of games on. I've had a wide variety of games with these and the box scores have all looked good. Unfortunately, I'm an idiot and didn't save my spreadsheet tracking my stats, so I can't provide them this go around.

                  I still think we'll be making updates to this set as I think some areas of the game can be made better with more tweaks, but I feel good enough to put these on here as a rough 1.0 set. I haven't played much today yet, so I honestly don't know if the update today messed with gameplay and will make these any better/worse, but we'll be able to find that out pretty quickly. I'm hoping to get around 10 games in between today and tomorrow, and I will save the spreadsheet this time, so I can have a decent sample size to look at so I can see what the stats say needs to be fixed.

                  v1.0

                  Game Settings
                  Difficulty: Heisman
                  Quarter Length: 12 Minutes
                  Accelerated Clock: On
                  Minimum Play Clock Time: 20 Seconds
                  Defensive Ball Hawk: Off
                  Defensive Heat Seeker Assist: Off
                  Injuries: 42
                  Fatigue: 72
                  Player Speed parity Scale: 95

                  Penalties
                  Offside: 60
                  False State: 65
                  Offensive Holding: 65
                  Facemask: 65
                  Illegal Block in the Back: 65
                  Roughing the Passer: 50
                  Defensive Pass Interference: 95

                  *I'm assuming like Madden that once we're in Dynasty mode we can change these values by 1-point increments. We're stuck with 5-point increments in the main menu for whatever reason.

                  Player Skill
                  QB Accuracy: 36
                  Pass Blocking: 42
                  WR Catching: 49

                  Run Blocking: 30
                  Ball Security: 45

                  Reaction Time: 76
                  Interceptions: 13
                  Pass Coverage: 72

                  Tackling: 49

                  Special Teams all at 50

                  CPU Skill
                  QB Accuracy: 21
                  Pass Blocking: 10
                  WR Catching: 49

                  Run Blocking: 100
                  Ball Security: 45

                  Reaction Time: 76
                  Interceptions: 13
                  Pass Coverage: 72

                  Tackling: 51

                  Special Teams all at 50
                  “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                  ― Plato

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                  • BarfytheOwl
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 608

                    #10
                    Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                    Originally posted by canes21
                    After playing too much and staying up way too late, I've got a set that I have played a good amount of games on. I've had a wide variety of games with these and the box scores have all looked good. Unfortunately, I'm an idiot and didn't save my spreadsheet tracking my stats, so I can't provide them this go around.

                    I still think we'll be making updates to this set as I think some areas of the game can be made better with more tweaks, but I feel good enough to put these on here as a rough 1.0 set. I haven't played much today yet, so I honestly don't know if the update today messed with gameplay and will make these any better/worse, but we'll be able to find that out pretty quickly. I'm hoping to get around 10 games in between today and tomorrow, and I will save the spreadsheet this time, so I can have a decent sample size to look at so I can see what the stats say needs to be fixed.

                    v1.0

                    Game Settings
                    Difficulty: Heisman
                    Quarter Length: 12 Minutes
                    Accelerated Clock: On
                    Minimum Play Clock Time: 20 Seconds
                    Defensive Ball Hawk: Off
                    Defensive Heat Seeker Assist: Off
                    Injuries: 42
                    Fatigue: 72
                    Player Speed parity Scale: 95

                    Penalties
                    Offside: 60
                    False State: 65
                    Offensive Holding: 65
                    Facemask: 65
                    Illegal Block in the Back: 65
                    Roughing the Passer: 50
                    Defensive Pass Interference: 95

                    *I'm assuming like Madden that once we're in Dynasty mode we can change these values by 1-point increments. We're stuck with 5-point increments in the main menu for whatever reason.

                    Player Skill
                    QB Accuracy: 36
                    Pass Blocking: 42
                    WR Catching: 49

                    Run Blocking: 30
                    Ball Security: 45

                    Reaction Time: 76
                    Interceptions: 13
                    Pass Coverage: 72

                    Tackling: 49

                    Special Teams all at 50

                    CPU Skill
                    QB Accuracy: 21
                    Pass Blocking: 10
                    WR Catching: 49

                    Run Blocking: 100
                    Ball Security: 45

                    Reaction Time: 76
                    Interceptions: 13
                    Pass Coverage: 72

                    Tackling: 51

                    Special Teams all at 50
                    Perfect timing, I was just about to hop on and play. I'll run some play now games since I'm having issues connecting to dynasty

                    Sent from my SM-S127DL using Operation Sports mobile app
                    Buffalo Bills, Toronto Blue Jays, Ottawa Senators, Milwaukee Bucks.

                    Currently listening to: Ice Nine Kills

                    PSN: Sentient_Ooze

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                    • canes21
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 22893

                      #11
                      Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                      Originally posted by BarfytheOwl
                      Perfect timing, I was just about to hop on and play. I'll run some play now games since I'm having issues connecting to dynasty

                      Sent from my SM-S127DL using Operation Sports mobile app
                      Let me know how it goes. Just started my 2nd game today, so a tiny sample size I won't make any decisions based off, but CPU QB's feel more accurate today than they were last night before the update. We'll need more games to see if that's actually the case or coincidence right now.
                      “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                      ― Plato

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                      • Playmakers
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 15340

                        #12
                        Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                        Are you seeing any running by the CPU QB'S that have the field general archetype?
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                        • DOOM1990
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 14

                          #13
                          Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                          Originally posted by Playmakers
                          Are you seeing any running by the CPU QB'S that have the field general archetype?
                          I have, but only with QB’s who have the “Scrambling” attribute, not balanced or pocket. This kind of sucks because I do not believe we have the ability to go in and change these attributes in this game as you would in Madden.

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                          • canes21
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 22893

                            #14
                            Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                            Originally posted by Playmakers
                            Are you seeing any running by the CPU QB'S that have the field general archetype?
                            I haven't seen much QB running in general. I've also played Improviser and Scrambling QB's only to this point, no Field Generals. I think QB's overall could stand to look to run a little more. They are suffering from the issue that plagued Madden a year or so ago where they drift back too much when nobody is open instead of looking to run.
                            “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                            ― Plato

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                            • D Tom
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2023
                              • 93

                              #15
                              Re: canes21 College Football 25 Sliders

                              Do you mess with auto subs at all? Or is the fatigue slider made with default values in mind?

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