Fed up with FIFA devs

[BSDShoes]

Madden NFL is developed in Orlando, Fla. while NHL, FIFA and UFC (and formally NFS) are developed in Vancouver, BC. Completely different groups of developers and managers, the Vancouver HQ IMO has some people that don't know what they're doing.

[jjw90]

When talking about simulating other leagues and matches you must remember there are ~30 leagues and ~600 teams. The loading times would be VERY VERY long even on a powerful PC. Even now with minimal simulation people are complaining about loading times and laggy menus on consoles. Its not likely any detailed simulation of other leagues will come anytime soon.

[triplechin]

Madden franchise is only better than FIFAs because FIFA's is terrible. Madden franchise is still poor with terrible AI, terrible decisions by computer controlled teams, and a poor progression system among other things. I am a franchise player but really thinking about playing FUT this year because manager mode is still no good.

[kwebbvols4423]

Will be purchasing PES next week for PS4 and will wait for FIFA to hit the EA Access vault.

[bad_philanthropy]

I just wish FIFA devs would give us a few presets for Sim, Arcade, Harcore sim, etc... like the NHL team does.

[Resurrection403]

Quote: Originally Posted by triplechin

Madden franchise is only better than FIFAs because FIFA's is terrible. Madden franchise is still poor with terrible AI, terrible decisions by computer controlled teams, and a poor progression system among other things. I am a franchise player but really thinking about playing FUT this year because manager mode is still no good.

Comparing the two is laughable. Madden is a great career mode.

[brs2305]

Quote: Originally Posted by flo182

I'm 99% sure they don't really sim the games and keep some kind of stats for it. At least during the last 4-5 FIFA games there were always some weird league tables. For example if you play Premier League and then check one of the other leagues tables a team might have played 10 games with 7-1-2 Win/Draw/Loose. If you sim ahead for 1-2 weeks and check the same table, this team might have played 12 games with 11 Wins - 0 Remis - 1 Loss. So there are some inconsistencies there and I think there is a lot of randomness in there as well. Would it take longer loading times? I guess so. But is it really that hard to keep some of these stats? If I compare it to NBA, Madden or even the last NHL I played (which was 2002 I think) they all have much better and deeper stats tracking than FIFA. If FIFA Manager 2006 was able to sim 50 leagues and keep stats of these players, then FIFA 16 should be able to at least give us consistent league tables and mayber top-scorers/assist leaders.

Hey guys,

sorry to chime in like that. But this career talking got me excited

Well first off. Loading times? Guys, let's be serious. 2k has to simulate 1230 Games a season + up to 105 Playoff games with probably 10+ times as many stats, tendencies and many more. I don't see significant differences between the loading times of the both. With this in mind, FIFA could easily simulate 40 leagues (and I am not talking about the superficial crap they are doing).

I don't know about the Madden Career Mode. But ultimately I don't remember any EA Titel supporting a decent career mode, which is flat out a shame. I remember a Football Manager called Bundesliga Manager from the 90s coming around the corner, with a total demand of 2.3mb space on your hard drive, being deeper than you average EA career. Ok, maybe a little overboard, but not by much.

It is really sad, that the most obvious features are missing. Historic data i.e., stuff you can look back on, being proud what your fantasy ridden digital Ego has accomplished over the past years. Anything, that gets you immersed into the story. There is never anything surprising, something you might think of a couple years later, thinking "yeah, great times, great moment". I am not even talking about the gameplay part of the game, the ever same feeling a game has. I am not even talking about the fact, that it is often harder to play a terrible 2nd tier basement-dweller, than the big time star ensemble Real or the like.

I don't think anything will change. First of all, these guys developing FIFA aren't slightly as enthusiastic about their game than 2k's (or Madden's, I guess?!) are. Second of all, they are just about money (well, who can blame them. It's a sad world nowadays ). I mean there are 12 year old kids telling their mommys to hand out a Benjamin for a couple of digital currency. That's where real money is sitting, not the "few" 60 bucks you spend on the game. It's crazy but understandable. The dilemma is, have the two of them combined and you get FIFA.

The only reason for me to buy FIFA is actually our online league. But I am about to give that up, just because I really want to refuse spending money on this. I actually liked the demo a lot, but I know the demo never plays like the actual game. It never did. And after a couple of weeks I end up being mad, because even winning in this game leaves you being outrages bout the flaws of the game. So tough choice I guess

[Shizz420]

I just hate that the game sucks when its comes out of the box and we have to wait a month for the bullcrap to be patched.