NHL 15 Video and Screenshots - Next-Gen Hockey Player

[Jattbreed]

NHL 15: Jelly Edition...seriously the ways the jerseys move it looks like they are all made of jelly. Never seen a jersey react like that when a puck hits a goaltender.

[giantsharks]

Quote: Originally Posted by SpectralThundr

I hope you do wait for PS8, you'll likely still be disappointed. And like many have NO idea about the perils of software development at all, on a 10 month yearly cycle vs hardware and what can be realistically done with the limitations of said hardware. Things like expecting different fabric for numbers vs the jerseys themselves IS nitpicky, I hate to burst your bubble. They were up against it last gen spec wise. Period. 256 megs is NOTHING to play with. That they even got the skating engine to the point they did last gen was actually amazing given the circumstances. But no, it's so much better to be a group of negative sallys year in year out and then wonder why EA doesn't bother to engage on OS anymore in regards to NHL.

The PERILS of software development? thats being a little dramatic. i said before i dont expect a ton done year to year but after four or five years i expect a little more. I agree the skating engine is the one thing i do like about the game. And i guess i will just bow down to you and your superior knowledge of operating systems, i guess ea was dealing with a different operationg system then other people because i played a lot of quality games on ps3. We are all a bunch of negative nancys and you know everything and we should just expect crap from ea and be happy with what they give us.

[SpectralThundr]

Quote: Originally Posted by giantsharks

The PERILS of software development? thats being a little dramatic. i said before i dont expect a ton done year to year but after four or five years i expect a little more. I agree the skating engine is the one thing i do like about the game. And i guess i will just bow down to you and your superior knowledge of operating systems, i guess ea was dealing with a different operationg system then other people because i played a lot of quality games on ps3. We are all a bunch of negative nancys and you know everything and we should just expect crap from ea and be happy with what they give us.

If you only knew, seriously. Software development is NOT a cakewalk anything you do or change can affect everything else. And given the budget and yearly cycle that compacts the whole process.

[Money99]

I'm kind of hoping the jersey flapping will be toned down by release.
It's nothing that's going to prevent me from buying the game or enjoying it, but it reminds of MLB2K8(?) which had the jersey's flapping so much that it was like the game is being played in the middle of a hurricane.

I recall the first Fight Night Beta having extreme giggling as well. James Toney's moobs jiggled and bounced so much, I was hoping there was a 'manzier' reward.
By release, it was really toned down to the point it barely was recognizable.
So perhaps the same thing will happen with NHL15 as well.

[SpectralThundr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Money99

I'm kind of hoping the jersey flapping will be toned down by release. It's nothing that's going to prevent me from buying the game or enjoying it, but it reminds of MLB2K8(?) which had the jersey's flapping so much that it was like the game is being played in the middle of a hurricane. I recall the first Fight Night Beta having extreme giggling as well. James Toney's moobs jiggled and bounced so much, I was hoping there was a 'manzier' reward. By release, it was really toned down to the point it barely was recognizable. So perhaps the same thing will happen with NHL15 as well.

It will be no doubt. We're looking at a build that's at least 2+ months from being the gold master. They'll tweak before then.

[CaptainSuperman]

Did someone say 10 is no different from 14?

After playing the 14 demo I couldn't even go back to playing 13 it was so different.

More authenticity? From a goalie net? That has absolutely 0 impact on gameplay? If it goes in, it goes in, there is nothing a net can to do impact gameplay. You try getting a goalie net to act the way it really should. There are so many more things in hockey to bring over into the game world than there are in baseball (The Show) and basketball (NBA2K). Contact from equipment, the puck, other players, the net, and the boards. Physics for a flat puck, which I'm sure is a lot harder than for a round baseball or basketball.

People constantly and yearly complain about everything, and it's not like it goes unheard. They are trying to make skating as great as they can, or have you not noticed the changes over the past 2-3 years? The hitting is still being worked on and fine tuned, but they are going in the right direction. You can't expect it to be perfect just because they said it was something they were adding that year. They seem to be trying to get puck physics right this year with the hire of that physicist or scientist, whatever. They are taking a step in the right direction with the 3 separate layers for players. But no, everyone dismisses all of it simply cause it's not perfect out the gate and year 1 into the next gen.

So yes, the lot of gamers seem to have become entitled. I'd rather them work on and fix gameplay before working on pointless graphics, but because so many people complain year after year, we get new commentary and crowd, more player faces, and the like before gameplay improvements. And the likes of those who have complained about the graphics who are complaining yet again this year, will also, in time, complain that they didn't also work on the gameplay. Well, EA hears all the bitching and tries it's best, but it seems more people care about aesthetics than real gameplay.

[pm83]

Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainSuperman

So yes, the lot of gamers seem to have become entitled. I'd rather them work on and fix gameplay before working on pointless graphics, but because so many people complain year after year, we get new commentary and crowd, more player faces, and the like before gameplay improvements. And the likes of those who have complained about the graphics who are complaining yet again this year, will also, in time, complain that they didn't also work on the gameplay. Well, EA hears all the bitching and tries it's best, but it seems more people care about aesthetics than real gameplay.

I'm pretty sure a lot of gamers have been asking EA to fix retreating AI because it's been one of their biggest problems of the series when talking about gameplay and they haven't delivered. A lot of gamers have been asking about replacing robotic and they-are-all-the-same goalies (which been there for ages) but they haven't delivered. Instead they've been focusing on aspects that look good but have no effect on gameplay itself.

One thing that bothers me year after year is the "it's authentic" talk. When they say that jersey will move like real one and give authentic experience then I'm assuming it will do that. When they say that arenas look authentic I'm assuming that they will be really close to real ones. But what we've seen so far is not authentic. You have to understand that fans will notice stuff like benches on the wrong side, banners at the wrong place, printed logos on a jersey, wrong colour hair on a certain player etc. If EA markets their game with "it's authentic" then it should be no surprise if they have complaints about things that are not authentic as promised.

To be honest I think it's a little bit naive to say that EA is trying it's best. EA is a big company that wants to sell as many products as possible with certain sum of money to been put for the work. I'm sure that team will try to do good work with resources that have been given to them though. And yes there are some really good ones along this year like lifelike-broadcast, updated arenas, improved puck physics and seperation between upper and lower body. I'm personally happy for the improvements but will still continue to point out errors (with my own style) if I see one. Because critic drives for changes.

[CupCrazyManiac]

Quote: Originally Posted by pm83

I'm pretty sure a lot of gamers have been asking EA to fix retreating AI because it's been one of their biggest problems of the series when talking about gameplay and they haven't delivered. A lot of gamers have been asking about replacing robotic and they-are-all-the-same goalies (which been there for ages) but they haven't delivered. Instead they've been focusing on aspects that look good but have no effect on gameplay itself. One thing that bothers me year after year is the "it's authentic" talk. When they say that jersey will move like real one and give authentic experience then I'm assuming it will do that. When they say that arenas look authentic I'm assuming that they will be really close to real ones. But what we've seen so far is not authentic. You have to understand that fans will notice stuff like benches on the wrong side, banners at the wrong place, printed logos on a jersey, wrong colour hair on a certain player etc. If EA markets their game with "it's authentic" then it should be no surprise if they have complaints about things that are not authentic as promised. To be honest I think it's a little bit naive to say that EA is trying it's best. EA is a big company that wants to sell as many products as possible with certain sum of money to been put for the work. I'm sure that team will try to do good work with resources that have been given to them though. And yes there are some really good ones along this year like lifelike-broadcast, updated arenas, improved puck physics and seperation between upper and lower body. I'm personally happy for the improvements but will still continue to point out errors (with my own style) if I see one. Because critic drives for changes.

I absolutly AGREE!!!!!!!!!