NHL 15 Achievement List Has No Trace of EASHL or GM Connected (Xbox One)

[JsMcbain]

Quote: Originally Posted by BrianVM29

On top of that, I don't think it make sense paying for the same ($) value when we only have a few (2-3) features added in PS3, but more in PS4. (which I understand due to the new high-end console).

But the box is BLUE!

[BrianVM29]

Quote: Originally Posted by JsMcbain

But the box is BLUE!

Could you kindly elaborate on that?

[messngretz]

Quote: Originally Posted by ricky24

Yes I'm not going to play it if if is not next gen. I'll find another next gen game to play. Only time I fire up my 360 is for gta right now. Plus the AI was junk in NHL 14. NHL 15 will be an exact copy of that game last gen. I was hoping for eashl with improved AI.

Gotcha...I still have the Xbox 360, I never made the jump to the Xbox One because I had zero reason to do so - NHL 14 and GTA 5 both came out for the 360 last year and those are basically the only 2 games that I've played.

If I had already made the jump to the XBox One, maybe I'd feel the same way that you guys do.

[JsMcbain]

Quote: Originally Posted by BrianVM29

Could you kindly elaborate on that?

Even though I also understand the fact that it is a next gen console game so the price will be a bit higher, I honestly think that because some of the features are removed they should bring the price back down...You do not charge more for less... but I simply went with EA's kind of reasoning... therefore the ''But the box is Blue'' reply as the boxes of ps4 games are blue and the boxes of the ps3 games have no color and EA probably sees it as another upgrade. Elaboration complete.

[bigwill33]

Quote: Originally Posted by messngretz

I'm not being a dick here, honest - but if EASHL is all that you played, why would you just stop playing it? Because EA didn't put it in the next gen versions? They didn't even make it for the next gen systems last year and yet I never had a problem with a shortage of EASHL teams/players to play against. I understand it's a principle thing, but it sounds like you're spiting yourself.

Answering honestly here; I cannot go back to older gens and buy new games when something newer is out. It is a mindset thing that I am not getting the best experience.

NHL is 75% of what I play any more in terms of video games. And EASHL/OTP is 95% of what I play in NHL. And the only reason that I am still playing that game is because of the people I play with. They have become close friends to me and some of them are spread out across the North Americas and I have never actually met them in person. But from playing together for the last 5 years we have developed a closeness.

It sounds dumb and if you haven't had it happen you may not understand and that is alright. But I love hockey and so do they and they are funny, quick witted guys. We get on late at night after the wives and girlfriends go to bed and we are home from a long day at work and we b.s. and play hockey. And we literally make people look foolish.

At least 3 of those guys I play with regularly are buying a next gen system solely for this reason. Sure we try other games to change up the pace, but we always come back to hockey because that is our common bond. We have all played the sport in real life and know the game inside and out. We also are stat junkies and love making the extra pass to create that rare, pretty play.

With each passing year the gameplay has been a letdown to us. Club especially. If you do not have a full squad and are relying on the AI it can become very annoying to lose a game where you are by far the better team and dominate all categories only to have the CPU decide that you are not going to win by giving the boost to the lesser rated team. (this is in the game, by the way)

So to invest $400-600 on a new console and game you kind of want to be wowed. You want to know you are playing the best. You want shiny and new. And I think that is what people are upset about here, or at the very least let down.

What you are suggesting would make sense, in a vacuum. But some of us in my group are trading in or selling their old system to update to a new one. And I know at least a few of us might not even get NHL if there is no online team options because that is pretty much all they do with the console anyway.

As strange as it may be NHL is a system seller for Sony and Microsoft to a lot of diehard hockey fans. The lack of communication and less than stellar games over the past few releases has left a bitter taste in a lot of our mouthes though. And I cannot blame any of those people that say they are willing to sit out a year if the game is not fully featured.

It might not even be a spite thing for some people, but more of a logistical reasoning, if you will.

[messngretz]

Quote: Originally Posted by JsMcbain

Even though I also understand the fact that it is a next gen console game so the price will be a bit higher, I honestly think that because some of the features are removed they should bring the price back down...You do not charge more for less... but I simply went with EA's kind of reasoning... therefore the ''But the box is Blue'' reply as the boxes of ps4 games are blue and the boxes of the ps3 games have no color and EA probably sees it as another upgrade. Elaboration complete.

I agree, no way they should be expecting people to pay $60 for a game that has a some features removed that they've offered in their game over the last 5 years...

[bigwill33]

They will certainly charge $60 or whatever full price is right off of the release. They have to for many, many reasons. But sales of the game, or a lack there of, might determine how soon the price will drop for it. If the sales are really struggling you could see a price drop by the holiday season.

I have no idea how the sales will be though. I think a lot of people will be picking it up just because it is the new hockey game. A lot will buy it because they saw the new graphics and fast gameplay and don't realize the flaws because they are not diehard hockey fans or simulation players. Some will buy it because the library for sports games are limited and they like sports games. Some will even buy it not realizing it is not fully featured. And a good bit will buy it and love it, just as a good bit will buy it and hate it and perhaps trade it in relatively soon.

But all of the aforementioned scenarios are purchases and help the bottom line. So for those reasons you likely won't see a price reduction anytime soon. The only way a company knows they have not reached their intended goals is by the bottom line. If people try this game with early access or the demo and it is a flop and is not fully featured, and then the word gets out about it... well that is about the only chance the game will "flop".

Just the same, word of mouth has helped to sale games before, too. That could easily be the case if the game is great. Time will tell. EA isn't doing much to spread that word of mouth themselves this time around, which is frightening though.

[MrYaz]

I suspect my pre order of NHL 15 may go towards GTA 5 now.

I don't know how you remove a cornerstone feature of the previous 3 + titles.