PES 2016 and the Idea of Unmitigated Joy

[dubcity]

Quote: Originally Posted by RonMexico1992

game blows on console mate. I will admit.

So basically it sucks without massive editing and gameplay modding? Not the biggest endorsement ever. I actually love the game on PS4. Graphics on PC and last-gen are rough by comparison.

[Jaayt]

For me once they fix the fouls, improve defensive AI especially to not allow my CB to run from one end to the other on superstar and also allow the CPU AI to shoot from long range and also shoot hi with variety, then yes this game will be amazing and the king is back,as for now, it's repetitive and boring seeing the AI always scoring low shots,defenders running away from player creating unrealistic space, if these problems aren't rectified in the next patch im selling the game and will wait till 2017, tired of konami always making a game 80% complete. Also getting tired of konami deleting modes especially community mode off/online, and master league even tho improvements are made, getting tired of my players always saying this is the best club for me whilst I'm in a relegation battle and everyone is always flattered if transfer rumors are true but when I cancel the transfer they don't say anything. As I said 80% complete.

[RonMexico1992]

Quote: Originally Posted by stocksy

Why does everyone make this conversations about PES or FIFA about each other. My orignal post doesn't mention FIFA. It's all about PES. "A rainy Tuesday night in Stoke" is a famous quote. Often used to judge the quality of a player... For example - "yeah he can score 60 goals in 40 games in la liga but can he do it on a rainy Tuesday night in Stoke" pundits use it, fans in pubs use it.... I was using it to highlight the fact that people keep saying "Barca play like Barca in PES" but for me the lesser teams don't play like lesser teams they still play like a team with worse stats. I am a avid watcher of the Premier league and the beauty of that league is that is not predictable. Even if the top four has become a little predictable come the end of the season everything else is very hard to predict. FIFAs shortcomings have nothing to do with PES. My issue with lack of depth of modes/realism/licenses and options off the pitch is only part of the issue. The fact that it no way replicates football like many claim is. It's cool. I think if others enjoy it. Superb. I enjoy plenty of games that others hate. I even liked last years NHL. My point still stands the "teams play really different" thing I don't think gets anywhere near real life. One season exhibition modes don't do it for me. I like to pick a team and manage them like I would in real life (badly mostly) that Pompey back to the glory days... Signing over priced players that refuse to leave....

You're a PES expert, how many seasons you complete PES 2016? One season mode? PES Master League last 30 years I'm pretty sure. I'm 1 game finished from completing my first season. Every team plays exactly how I want them to because I edit each team according to Whoscored. So every teams tactics are completely different. If you actually played the game, followed the community, you would know that.

[Ettnollbajen]

Quote: Originally Posted by RonMexico1992

game blows on console mate. I will admit.

Thanx mate,just pissed and envious of you and your shiny PC lifestyle

[RonMexico1992]

Quote: Originally Posted by dubcity

So basically it sucks without massive editing and gameplay modding? Not the biggest endorsement ever. I actually love the game on PS4. Graphics on PC and last-gen are rough by comparison.

Lmao I have to be honest man. I'm just defending the game against his points, but I can't lie about other stuff.

I just had a gaming PC, I had a PS4. Seen I could get PES on PC and play with all the extra stuff including Orlando City and just switched to PC.

[RonMexico1992]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jaayt

For me once they fix the fouls, improve defensive AI especially to not allow my CB to run from one end to the other on superstar and also allow the CPU AI to shoot from long range and also shoot hi with variety, then yes this game will be amazing and the king is back,as for now, it's repetitive and boring seeing the AI always scoring low shots,defenders running away from player creating unrealistic space, if these problems aren't rectified in the next patch im selling the game and will wait till 2017, tired of konami always making a game 80% complete. Also getting tired of konami deleting modes especially community mode off/online, and master league even tho improvements are made, getting tired of my players always saying this is the best club for me whilst I'm in a relegation battle and everyone is always flattered if transfer rumors are true but when I cancel the transfer they don't say anything. As I said 80% complete.

80% game and 60% better then FIFA. I made the 60% part up. lol

[stocksy]

Quote: Originally Posted by dubcity

So basically it sucks without massive editing and gameplay modding? Not the biggest endorsement ever. I actually love the game on PS4. Graphics on PC and last-gen are rough by comparison.

Exactly and even then I still do t believe that it will be anywhere near its claimed.

Will the AI manager bring on his 6'4 striker on with 10 mins left and change from a passing game to lumping it up to the big man up top?? Will players adapt their performance depending on position.

I still don't see how a master league can ever be used In the same reply as arguing realism.

If I have to edit every team using a database to get them playing the way they should how is that a claim of greatness.

I'm all for roster edits and sliders and where licenses are missing edit modes.

But if the teams don't ship with their own style and I have to edit it in I just don't get it.

If we are saying a game is realistic and teams play like they would in real life it goes a lot deeper than tweaking a few stats.

Would Man City bring on their reserve keeper for an outfield player and put their first choice keeper up front in an attempt to win the game??? If not it's not realistic (true story) obviously that last bit I'm kidding... Only Stuart Pearce would think that's a good idea!

[stocksy]

Quote: Originally Posted by RonMexico1992

80% game and 60% better then FIFA. I made the 60% part up. lol

Hats off to you for editing the game to make it that way and being a PC guy. I was referring to the console version and playing in out of the box.

I believe my points still stand.

It doesn't replicate they real world of football (on or off the pitch) anywhere near its claimed.

FIFA may or may not do better or worse. Sensible world of soccer rules supreme