*** Big Brother: Season 12 ***

[jake44np]

Quote: Originally Posted by NC State-31 UNC-27

Enzo definitely wasn't the best player and all of the "social game" talk was stupid. So what, he was nice to everybody? The whole idea of social game is stupid, but if you want to use it as a term it should be how they made alliances with others and things. And sure there was the Brigade, but that included Hayden and Lane too...so I don't see any advantage Enzo had over them. Plus Enzo flat out sucked in the competitions and rode Matt and Hayden's coattails to the finals. I loved Enzo, but he didn't do anything to deserve to win other than lucking into being in the HOH room on day 2 with the other good players in the house. Hayden was definitely the most deserving and Rachel and Brendon's votes were pathetic. Britney I can understand, from her perspective Lane played a great game...and he did, really. Just not good enough to beat Hayden. I thought when they showed Lane talking about how he would have taken Britney to the final to everyone was great. Hayden 500,000 plus some prizes from a veto comp like a hawaii trip or something Lane 50,000 Britney 30,000? 20,000 from the final and 10,000 from the hide n seek challenge right? Ragan 20,000 Monet 10,000? from the first HOH comp I think Rachel 5,000 from a veto comp I think not sure if I'm missing anything

No way, your wrong.
The other 3 are lucky they were in the HOH room when he put the BRA-GADE together.
How was he lucky to be there when he was the one to put it together?

[NC State-31 UNC-27]

Enzo would have made that alliance with anyone. I got the impression he was just itching to make a secret alliance. He already had the name for it LOL. He's lucky in the sense that Matt and Hayden turned out to be really good players. I just don't think there was anything mastermind-like about putting the Brigade together. The whole thing was a joke to me at first. They kind of lucked into everyone hating Brendon and Rachel too...which made it easy to form their side alliances (which I don't think was ever really their intention...they didn't want Hayden and Kristen getting too close, Matt and Ragan too close, or Lane and Britney too close......but it did work really well for them). And then at that point they just had numbers on their side. I mean the alliance was put together on day 2...thats too early and pretty freakin lucky

Nothing brilliant about it IMO. Enzo needed those guys a lot more than they needed him...except for about 2 minutes on day 2. Enzo was a great guy, everyone loved him, he flew totally under the radar, never made anyone mad...I'll give him props for that. But he sucked so bad at challenges.

I also question the intelligence of the other house members for not figuring out the Brigade. They just figured there were no alliances in the house all season? Didn't ever wonder why Lane/Hayden/Enzo all seemed to be really good buddies? Never wondered why all the votes were always unanimous? Come on....

I just think the Brigade got every single break they needed the whole season...plus a couple of key challenge wins.

[jake44np]

Quote: Originally Posted by NC State-31 UNC-27

Enzo would have made that alliance with anyone. I got the impression he was just itching to make a secret alliance. He already had the name for it LOL. He's lucky in the sense that Matt and Hayden turned out to be really good players. I just don't think there was anything mastermind-like about putting the Brigade together. The whole thing was a joke to me at first. They kind of lucked into everyone hating Brendon and Rachel too...which made it easy to form their side alliances (which I don't think was ever really their intention...they didn't want Hayden and Kristen getting too close, Matt and Ragan too close, or Lane and Britney too close......but it did work really well for them). And then at that point they just had numbers on their side. I mean the alliance was put together on day 2...thats too early and pretty freakin lucky Nothing brilliant about it IMO. Enzo needed those guys a lot more than they needed him...except for about 2 minutes on day 2. Enzo was a great guy, everyone loved him, he flew totally under the radar, never made anyone mad...I'll give him props for that. But he sucked so bad at challenges. I also question the intelligence of the other house members for not figuring out the Brigade. They just figured there were no alliances in the house all season? Didn't ever wonder why Lane/Hayden/Enzo all seemed to be really good buddies? Never wondered why all the votes were always unanimous? Come on.... I just think the Brigade got every single break they needed the whole season...plus a couple of key challenge wins.

There was nothing lucky or a joke about their alliance, they made the final 3. I watched the house guest on the today show everyone of them said Enzo ran the house. The thing is we dont see 99% of what really goes on in the house, they only show 3 hours per week on TV. He was able to put a alliance together and no one expected it at all. They were all amazed once they were in the jury house and saw Enzo was part of and started the Bragade. Take Britney, she was the last one in the house with them and she was shocked that they had an alliance. She was in the house with them for 2 months and had no idea!
And you are right they used Matt and once they thought he was "too big" for the bragade Enzo decided to get rid of him, brilliant move!
Also after the game was over Hayden was asked why he took Lane to the finals and not Enzo. His answer was because Enzo ran the house and he didnt think he could beat him in the finals. How brilliant is it that you cant win anything in the house at all yet you make it to the final 3 and neither of the other two want you in the finals with them???