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Old 10-17-2011, 11:57 AM   #81
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That premiere was horrific - and not in a good way.
90 minutes of watching them look for a little girl? No story advancement, a number of plot holes and dialogue that made no sense.

So deputy Dan tries to rape sheriff's wife, she tells him to leave her alone, and now wife is mad that Deputy won't spend time with her kid?

Mom's daughter is lost in woods with zombies and she stays by the road without helping to look?

The whole thing with the gun and the blonde, was horrible too.

This was a really bad episode. I really hope they pick things up in show #2.
That entire show could have been done in 5 minutes, not 90.
Very disappointing.

But on a positive note, "Hell on Wheels" looks awesome!
That part I didn't understand either that Lori was so upset with Shane about how he was being cold to her and the kid. I guess she looks at it from the point that her son doesn't fully know about what is going on with this love triangle and Shane is taking it out on an innocent kid that he was so hard trying to replace Rick in those first few episodes as a father figure. What gets me is that Shane can't let it go with Lori, fully understanding that he lied to her about Rick.

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I agree this didn't advance the story much, but it was quite the intense thrill ride that first 25 minutes created. Plus, the one big thing with zombie films is the injection of human conflict. I think this show has done quite a bit of that. Yes it is about a zombie apocalypse and how the hell did it happen, but there is always the notion about the conflicts at center stage and how us as humans are not the perfect species and would still take ourselves out even with all these bad things going on around us.

Unlike many of those upset with this episode and series in general, which has been in creative hell since its release, I am more upset by some of those stupid zombie commercials. LOL! Glad we only have to deal with them during this show. Only good commercial was the one with the zombie texting about eating an actor.

I did like the zombies sitting in the church going through as if it were routine. That was a nice touch. I hope that this series begins to explore the evolution of the zombie as not just mindless creatures. Romero started a bit of this, but his movies have fallen off quality wise.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:07 PM   #82
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The series is definitely centered around human conflict. It reminds me of early Romero movies in the sense that the chunk of the story is built on the characters and their interactions with one another with that nice, looming threat of a zombie attack at practically any minute.

With that said, the non-zombie drama is just bland right now. There is nothing going on that is very interesting or not melodramatic. The gun/suicide thing just felt over-handed to me and as I said earlier, the Shane and Lori relationship is spinning in circles. Considering the size of the cast I would think there would be more than two on-going side-stories, but there is really nothing outside those two and the rest of the cast just comes off as being flat.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:22 PM   #83
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I really didn't have too many problems with last night's episode. Them hiding under the cars from the zombie herd might have been some of the most tense moments I have seen on TV or film in a while. It might have just been an emotional high with my excitement for the show being back, but it was still a good example of something I love about this show.

The Shane and Lori thing is odd. Sometimes I hate both of them, but then I kind of understand how things go sometimes. I assume the majority of viewers don't like Shane, so I can see why they would keep him around instead of killing him so the show has a very real antagonist aside from the countless zombies they encounter.

Seeing that the farm is coming up should give the people who want some side stories a little bit of hope. Just seeing the farm for that brief moment was enough to get me excited. Granted, I'm not sure how much of the farm story will come to the TV side of things, but it still should provide a little more "meat" for the viewers to chew on.

Outside of the major plot points we all know about, I think I'm most interested in the evolution of the zombies. From what seems to be nomadic herding of the zombies to the zombies sitting in a church. I hope that we get a little bit of backstory on this.

Overall, I'm still very happy with the show. Even with the transgressions from the comic series and the sometimes slow nature of the plot. I do have a concern that Carl is going to get the "Walt" treatment and get too old too fast for the role. I guess we'll see what happens though.
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The series is definitely centered around human conflict. It reminds me of early Romero movies in the sense that the chunk of the story is built on the characters and their interactions with one another with that nice, looming threat of a zombie attack at practically any minute.

With that said, the non-zombie drama is just bland right now. There is nothing going on that is very interesting or not melodramatic. The gun/suicide thing just felt over-handed to me and as I said earlier, the Shane and Lori relationship is spinning in circles. Considering the size of the cast I would think there would be more than two on-going side-stories, but there is really nothing outside those two and the rest of the cast just comes off as being flat.
Those are my thoughts as well.
I fully realize that this show is going to run on human conflicts, in a crazy scenario, but my main beef is that I've lost a tonne of interest in these characters and their conflicts.

If you haven't checked out the episode 2 preview, it looks like they're creating another conflict out of thin air when the black guy starts to turn crazy.
He just had his life saved by Daryl, but he thinks he's out to get him.

They need to throw a few new characters in there. Put someone in the group that's hellbent on world domination. Maybe this person feels that since there are no more laws or rules, they can take what they want and possibly build their own army of marauders.

But watching Lori get ticked at Shane for not taking her son fishing or playing tiddly-winks is out of order. The dude tried to rape her and she told him to stay away and now she's mad that he's keeping his distance???

I hope they kill off everyone but Sheriff, Daryl and Shane and then bring in some more hardcases or weirdo's.
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IMO, and IMO only, they need to stick to the comics a little closer.

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I do feel the episode was good though, very surprised they carried over Carl getting shot but I like what that means.
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I don't think I spoiled anything really. The 2nd-episode trailer is available to anyone, and mentioning Daryl helping him wasn't a huge plot-twist of any kind either.


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IMO, and IMO only, they need to stick to the comics a little closer.

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Maybe that's what I'm looking for too. I want to see a few more butt-kickers in this group instead of a bunch of whining nancy's.

They also spoke briefly about the behavior of the zombies they encountered.
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I wish they had expanded on that a bit more.

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I really didn't have too many problems with last night's episode. Them hiding under the cars from the zombie herd might have been some of the most tense moments I have seen on TV or film in a while. It might have just been an emotional high with my excitement for the show being back, but it was still a good example of something I love about this show.

The Shane and Lori thing is odd. Sometimes I hate both of them, but then I kind of understand how things go sometimes. I assume the majority of viewers don't like Shane, so I can see why they would keep him around instead of killing him so the show has a very real antagonist aside from the countless zombies they encounter.

Seeing that the farm is coming up should give the people who want some side stories a little bit of hope. Just seeing the farm for that brief moment was enough to get me excited. Granted, I'm not sure how much of the farm story will come to the TV side of things, but it still should provide a little more "meat" for the viewers to chew on.

Outside of the major plot points we all know about, I think I'm most interested in the evolution of the zombies. From what seems to be nomadic herding of the zombies to the zombies sitting in a church. I hope that we get a little bit of backstory on this.

Overall, I'm still very happy with the show. Even with the transgressions from the comic series and the sometimes slow nature of the plot. I do have a concern that Carl is going to get the "Walt" treatment and get too old too fast for the role. I guess we'll see what happens though.
I keep reading about the farm and saw it in the previews. Is the farm something big in the comics? If it is, please use spoilers not to ruin anything for anyone. I am intrigued that the farm has that "Night of the Living Dead" look to it, so should be interesting.

I just hope they do not spend the whole season trying to find Sofia/Sophia. Through all the conflict, it might be the one thing that keeps this group together and from killing each other, to save a little girls life.
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