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NYG_Meth · 12-07-2003, 10:46 PM

regarding tackles, remember, the NFL is a horrible tackling league

LBzrule · 12-07-2003, 10:50 PM

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NYG_Meth said:
regarding tackles, remember, the NFL is a horrible tackling league

really?? Is that why there are some people who always get 200 or more tackles every year at LB??? And alot more at around 150. And is that why some RB's are afraid of some defenders because it is a horrible tackling league? NFL is not a horrible tackling league. There may be some guys who are horrible at tackling and even a few teams, but the league overall is not a horrible tackling league, which is why most running backs don't average over 4 ypc. Against a team with a bad run D yeah, but against a team with a good run D, forget about it.

wwharton · 12-08-2003, 12:12 PM

Can they be considered horrible or great? What other league is there to compare? The CFL?

Rback21 · 12-08-2003, 12:21 PM

...I just hate tapping the button and would rather NOT have a charge button. I think the controls should be sort of like Madden but keep the shoulder charge button. But that tapping for speed burst-I would like it to go but I would still buy ESPN if they didn't change it...

KingV2k3 · 12-08-2003, 06:21 PM

I like the 'tap'...thought it was goofy at first but after numerous 'chise seasons I came to the conclusion that it maes it more realstic on run after catch b/c you need to maintain your 'momentum' on the tap or the pursuit will catch up...

I've had a few VERY entertaining runs for 6 jumping up off of my barstool (good TV height ) and tappin' like a fool to keep ahead of a DB etc...

Still...

YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING...

Too bad these dipsh*t companies are too...too...I don't know..too comfortable?...arrogant?...to incorporate this and many other fine suggestions offered on this very board...

Maybe that will change..maybe not...

But every year around this time I start to get VERY interested in trying to find some development $$$...hire a few of you guys to consult....

AND FINALLY MAKE THE MOTHER OF ALL SIM FOOTBALL TITLES...

Oh well...

Still...nice work...very provocative...

wwharton · 12-08-2003, 06:56 PM

You're not really getting that you don't have to tap the button. The only time you really should be tapping is if you're off to the races and in front of everybody. You NEVER have to tap before then.

NYG_Meth · 12-08-2003, 11:36 PM

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LBzrule said:

Quote:

NYG_Meth said:
regarding tackles, remember, the NFL is a horrible tackling league

really?? Is that why there are some people who always get 200 or more tackles every year at LB??? And alot more at around 150. And is that why some RB's are afraid of some defenders because it is a horrible tackling league? NFL is not a horrible tackling league. There may be some guys who are horrible at tackling and even a few teams, but the league overall is not a horrible tackling league, which is why most running backs don't average over 4 ypc. Against a team with a bad run D yeah, but against a team with a good run D, forget about it.

I'm just saying, the tackling has gotten worse over the years, especially with defensive backs. Lots of players lead with their shoulders to try for the knock-out and rarely wrap up and tackle, thus... broken tackles. Ask any football analyst, they'll say the same.

--Of course you've still got players with great tackling technique (Ray Lewis, Zach Thomas, Mike Barrow), they're just becoming more of a rarity

12-07-2003, 10:46 PM	#17
NYG_Meth The OS Artist Guy OVR: 24 Join Date: May 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 3,920	Re: Innovative running and defensive idea for ESPN!!!! regarding tackles, remember, the NFL is a horrible tackling league

12-07-2003, 10:50 PM	#18
LBzrule Hall Of Fame OVR: 40 Join Date: Jul 2002 Blog Entries: 8	Re: Innovative running and defensive idea for ESPN!!!! Quote: *NYG_Meth said:* regarding tackles, remember, the NFL is a horrible tackling league really?? Is that why there are some people who always get 200 or more tackles every year at LB??? And alot more at around 150. And is that why some RB's are afraid of some defenders because it is a horrible tackling league? NFL is not a horrible tackling league. There may be some guys who are horrible at tackling and even a few teams, but the league overall is not a horrible tackling league, which is why most running backs don't average over 4 ypc. Against a team with a bad run D yeah, but against a team with a good run D, forget about it.

12-08-2003, 12:12 PM	#19
wwharton ll Str OVR: 28 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 26,978	Re: Innovative running and defensive idea for ESPN!!!! Can they be considered horrible or great? What other league is there to compare? The CFL?

12-08-2003, 12:21 PM	#20
Rback21 MVP OVR: 11 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hampton Roads, VA (for now)	Re: Innovative running and defensive idea for ESPN!!!! ...I just hate tapping the button and would rather NOT have a charge button. I think the controls should be sort of like Madden but keep the shoulder charge button. But that tapping for speed burst-I would like it to go but I would still buy ESPN if they didn't change it...

12-08-2003, 06:21 PM	#21
KingV2k3 Senior Circuit OVR: 21 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 5,893 Blog Entries: 8	Re: Innovative running and defensive idea for ESPN!!!! I like the 'tap'...thought it was goofy at first but after numerous 'chise seasons I came to the conclusion that it maes it more realstic on run after catch b/c you need to maintain your 'momentum' on the tap or the pursuit will catch up... I've had a few VERY entertaining runs for 6 jumping up off of my barstool (good TV height ) and tappin' like a fool to keep ahead of a DB etc... Still... YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING... Too bad these dipsh*t companies are too...too...I don't know..too comfortable?...arrogant?...to incorporate this and many other fine suggestions offered on this very board... Maybe that will change..maybe not... But every year around this time I start to get VERY interested in trying to find some development $$$...hire a few of you guys to consult.... AND FINALLY MAKE THE MOTHER OF ALL SIM FOOTBALL TITLES... Oh well... Still...nice work...very provocative...

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12-08-2003, 06:56 PM	#22
wwharton ll Str OVR: 28 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 26,978	Re: Innovative running and defensive idea for ESPN!!!! You're not really getting that you don't have to tap the button. The only time you really should be tapping is if you're off to the races and in front of everybody. You NEVER have to tap before then.

12-08-2003, 11:36 PM	#23
NYG_Meth The OS Artist Guy OVR: 24 Join Date: May 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 3,920	Re: Innovative running and defensive idea for ESPN!!!! Quote: *LBzrule said:* Quote: *NYG_Meth said:* regarding tackles, remember, the NFL is a horrible tackling league really?? Is that why there are some people who always get 200 or more tackles every year at LB??? And alot more at around 150. And is that why some RB's are afraid of some defenders because it is a horrible tackling league? NFL is not a horrible tackling league. There may be some guys who are horrible at tackling and even a few teams, but the league overall is not a horrible tackling league, which is why most running backs don't average over 4 ypc. Against a team with a bad run D yeah, but against a team with a good run D, forget about it. I'm just saying, the tackling has gotten worse over the years, especially with defensive backs. Lots of players lead with their shoulders to try for the knock-out and rarely wrap up and tackle, thus... broken tackles. Ask any football analyst, they'll say the same. --Of course you've still got players with great tackling technique (Ray Lewis, Zach Thomas, Mike Barrow), they're just becoming more of a rarity

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