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VanCitySportsGuy · 07-22-2004, 10:27 PM

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Nocork4u said:
How can anyone really say this is a GREAT game if the franchise mode is broken? Im really mad right now.

Well for the most part it is a great game if you can overlook franchise mode.

The presentation is top notch, AI in general is pretty good so far what I've seen (outside of comp QB's like Vick, McNabb etc.. only running once or twice a game), the price is good.

But if you spend most of your time on franchise mode I can't recommend this game to you.

Nocork4u · 07-22-2004, 10:28 PM

vinny · 07-22-2004, 10:30 PM

Take your team to the superbowl, and if other teams do bad trades, screw them. Honestly I'm still going to play franchise mode and have a good time dumb computer trades or not
Not a gamebreaker

MC_Arab · 07-22-2004, 10:31 PM

I have spent hours in franchise mode and enjoyed every second of it. I never had any ridiculous trades or cuts. The only thing that angers me are injuries. There aren't many, but the ones I had hurt my team bad. Zach Thomas ruptures his Achilles Tendon and was forced into retirement after the 1st season.

Bacardi151 · 07-22-2004, 10:32 PM

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Could you explain how they'd release a patch for a console game?

Xbox games are able to be patches through downloads on Xbox Live. Just not a while back, the developers of Ninja Gaiden released a patch/add-on so drastic that they basically made it an entirely new game.

The hurricane pack has not been released yet, but yes they will be releasing content that will basically make it a whole new game, according to them.

HOWEVER, the developer must have the necessary hooks in place in order to be able to update/patch issues, meaning that they had to have coded to ability to update the game, which only they know if that can happen.

SECONDLY, microsoft frowns upon releasing patches for games unless related to online play or mission critical i beleive. The downloaded content is usually only for adding to the exisiting game..

Guess you will just have to see what happens, if anything.

LOL! I simply read about that Ninja Gaiden update when I was deciding whether to buy an Xbox and it greatly impressed me. Didn't know it wasn't released yet. But thanks for the info about how the patches work as I am still new to the Xbox.

One of the things that make patching difficult is the fact that most of the infomation, if coded that way is taken from the dvd. So something needs to happen to be able to patch a game which does not live on your hard drive but on a dvd. (remember the mvp patches for the pc, yet the xbox version got no love)

the developer must have something that will allow them to access the new information from the "patch" you download. Hence, them needing the hooks (extensibility ) already in place.

Again, microsoft (according to them) are trying to distinguish the PC trend of released rushed products out the door by not allowing games to be patched unless it affect Xbox Live.

This was told to several of us at e3 in conversations we've had with microsoft reps.

Take it for what its worth.

MC_Arab · 07-22-2004, 10:34 PM

They have dowloadable content for 2K5 do it is in place.

Brandwin · 07-22-2004, 10:34 PM

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MC_Arab said:
They have dowloadable content for 2K5 do it is in place.

Thats for rosters though...I doubt we see a patch.

Flyboy · 07-22-2004, 10:36 PM

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vinny said:
Take your team to the superbowl, and if other teams do bad trades, screw them. Honestly I'm still going to play franchise mode and have a good time dumb computer trades or not
Not a gamebreaker

I'm definitely with vinny on this one, but I doubt most people will be as well.

07-22-2004, 10:27 PM	#25
VanCitySportsGuy NYG_Meth OVR: 23 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 9,351	Re: OK, now im mad! Quote: *Nocork4u said:* How can anyone really say this is a GREAT game if the franchise mode is broken? Im really mad right now. Well for the most part it is a great game if you can overlook franchise mode. The presentation is top notch, AI in general is pretty good so far what I've seen (outside of comp QB's like Vick, McNabb etc.. only running once or twice a game), the price is good. But if you spend most of your time on franchise mode I can't recommend this game to you.

07-22-2004, 10:28 PM	#26
Nocork4u Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: May 2004	Re: OK, now im mad!

07-22-2004, 10:30 PM	#27
vinny MVP OVR: 17 Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,738	Re: OK, now im mad! Take your team to the superbowl, and if other teams do bad trades, screw them. Honestly I'm still going to play franchise mode and have a good time dumb computer trades or not Not a gamebreaker

07-22-2004, 10:31 PM	#28
MC_Arab Banned OVR: 2 Join Date: Jul 2004	Re: OK, now im mad! I have spent hours in franchise mode and enjoyed every second of it. I never had any ridiculous trades or cuts. The only thing that angers me are injuries. There aren't many, but the ones I had hurt my team bad. Zach Thomas ruptures his Achilles Tendon and was forced into retirement after the 1st season.

07-22-2004, 10:32 PM	#29
Bacardi151 *t f y*r lmnt Dnny OVR: 19* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL Posts: 3,114	Re: OK, now im mad! Quote: *Aaenuel said:* Quote: *Bacardi151 said:* Quote: *Aaenuel said:* Quote: *ABLCommish said:* Could you explain how they'd release a patch for a console game? Xbox games are able to be patches through downloads on Xbox Live. Just not a while back, the developers of Ninja Gaiden released a patch/add-on so drastic that they basically made it an entirely new game. The hurricane pack has not been released yet, but yes they will be releasing content that will basically make it a whole new game, according to them. HOWEVER, the developer must have the necessary hooks in place in order to be able to update/patch issues, meaning that they had to have coded to ability to update the game, which only they know if that can happen. SECONDLY, microsoft frowns upon releasing patches for games unless related to online play or mission critical i beleive. The downloaded content is usually only for adding to the exisiting game.. Guess you will just have to see what happens, if anything. LOL! I simply read about that Ninja Gaiden update when I was deciding whether to buy an Xbox and it greatly impressed me. Didn't know it wasn't released yet. But thanks for the info about how the patches work as I am still new to the Xbox. One of the things that make patching difficult is the fact that most of the infomation, if coded that way is taken from the dvd. So something needs to happen to be able to patch a game which does not live on your hard drive but on a dvd. (remember the mvp patches for the pc, yet the xbox version got no love) the developer must have something that will allow them to access the new information from the "patch" you download. Hence, them needing the hooks (extensibility ) already in place. Again, microsoft (according to them) are trying to distinguish the PC trend of released rushed products out the door by not allowing games to be patched unless it affect Xbox Live. This was told to several of us at e3 in conversations we've had with microsoft reps. Take it for what its worth.

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07-22-2004, 10:34 PM	#30
MC_Arab Banned OVR: 2 Join Date: Jul 2004	Re: OK, now im mad! They have dowloadable content for 2K5 do it is in place.

07-22-2004, 10:34 PM	#31
Brandwin Hall Of Fame OVR: 50 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 30,643	Re: OK, now im mad! Quote: *MC_Arab said:* They have dowloadable content for 2K5 do it is in place. Thats for rosters though...I doubt we see a patch.

07-22-2004, 10:36 PM	#32
Flyboy Daydream Believer OVR: 26 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sea of Waking Dreams Posts: 11,352	Re: OK, now im mad! Quote: *vinny said:* Take your team to the superbowl, and if other teams do bad trades, screw them. Honestly I'm still going to play franchise mode and have a good time dumb computer trades or not Not a gamebreaker I'm definitely with vinny on this one, but I doubt most people will be as well.

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