[xbox] 9-28 roster [Irondudez]

[irondudez]

Quote: Originally Posted by julfpenet

LOL I knew he only rushed for 100 yards once in four years because I did the research. BTW - Why do you think he was splitting time in the first place...LOL...and as far as the 50-yarder goes...I'd chock it up to poor tackling by the Giants "D", not his speed.

i am just gonna stop this argument know as i am dealing with uneducated bums...

[irondudez]

BTW: if anyone wants a good example of his breakaway speed, look at films of his 2 punt return TD's last year.

[julfpenet]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ant718

What I dont get is how ANYONE can rip a guy who puts all this work into the rosters for the better of the game. He does not get paid & he certianly does NOT have to do this so maybe you all need to chill. Worst case just restore the ratings w/ Finns editor.

To answer your question:

He artifically "Juiced" his favorite player based on an opinion that he cannot backup with factual evidence...just because he watches Eagles football games doesn't make him any more of an authority than anyone else who visits these forums.

For most part , it really didn't bother me so much the he juiced Westbrooks speed, but he then posted his rosters without clearly notifying potential users of that fact and I find that deceitful.

...So I spoke my mind...which, last time I checked, I was still alowed to do in this country. So I hold no ill will towards him or anyone else here, of course I'll never use his rosters again, but that's a personal choice. Your free to do so.

Have a wonder ESPN football day!

Cheers

[julfpenet]

Quote: Originally Posted by irondudez

i am just gonna stop this argument know as i am dealing with uneducated bums...

Again...with the name calling.

I served my country with distinction in the U.S. Navy and have supported the United States military via the private sector for the better part of 20 years. I assure you, I am neither uneducated or a bum.

You'll find as you go through life that not everyone is going to agree with you. I choose to disagree with you...so what. We debated the topic and we agree to disagree...nothing more, nothing less.

You only get the respect you earn...give none, get none.

Now go and have a wonderful ESPN football day!

Cheers

[irondudez]

Quote: Originally Posted by julfpenet

To answer your question: He artifically "Juiced" his favorite player based on an opinion that he cannot backup with factual evidence...just because he watches Eagles football games doesn't make him any more of an authority than anyone else who visits these forums. For most part , it really didn't bother me so much the he juiced Westbrooks speed, but he then posted his rosters without clearly notifying potential users of that fact and I find that deceitful. ...So I spoke my mind...which, last time I checked, I was still alowed to do in this country. So I hold no ill will towards him or anyone else here, of course I'll never use his rosters again, but that's a personal choice. Your free to do so. Have a wonder ESPN football day! Cheers

i JUICED his speed!?!? i used the same exact chart for EVERY player and i'll show it to you to prove it. if anything i tried to make the Eagles worse (defense wise) so dont accuse me of juicing my team.

CHART:
5.45 = 37
5.43 = 38
5.41 = 39
5.39 = 40
5.37 = 41
5.35 = 42
5.33 = 43
5.31 = 44
5.29 = 45
5.27 = 46
5.25 = 47
5.23 = 48
5.21 = 49
5.19 = 50
5.17 = 51
5.15 = 52
5.13 = 53
5.11 = 54
5.10 = 55
5.08 = 56
5.06 = 57
5.04 = 58
5.02 = 59
5.00 = 60
4.98 = 61
4.96 = 62
4.94 = 63
4.92 = 64
4.90 = 65
4.88 = 66
4.86 = 67
4.84 = 68
4.82 = 69
4.80 = 70
4.78 = 71
4.76 = 72
4.75 = 73
4.73 = 74
4.71 = 75
4.69 = 76
4.67 = 77
4.65 = 78
4.63 = 79
4.61 = 80
4.60 = 81
4.59 = 81
4.57 = 82
4.55 = 83
4.53 = 84
4.51 = 85
4.49 = 86
4.47 = 87
4.45 = 88
4.43 = 89
4.42 = 90
4.40 = 91
4.38 = 92
4.36 = 93
4.34 = 94
4.32 = 95
4.30 = 96
4.28 = 97
4.26 = 98
4.24 = 99

if a time isnt listed ex. 4.44, roound up to 4.43

[Waxen]

I wanted to see if this supposed "juicing" of Westbrook's speed would cause him to be a so called 1300-1400 yard back. I imagine if you played the eagles that would no doubt be the case but if you get good at this game you can turn most starting HB's into that kind of yardage producer. I took Irondudez roster from 9/18 with the 92 speed Westbrook that I have also added Twism's edits to from the Aggressiveness = bad thread and simulated several seasons. Not one of those seasons saw westbrook gain over 1000 yard nor did he gain over 4.0 ypc. Changing his speed did not make him overwhelming and it certainly didn't boost him over 1300 yards in a season. The 92 rating for speed is consistent with his 40 time and doesn't seem to "juice" him at all IMO. I think Irondudez is great for putting forth all this time to make these good roster updates. If you don't like what he does then don't use his rosters. Nuff Said.

[Ant718]

Quote: Originally Posted by julfpenet

To answer your question: He artifically "Juiced" his favorite player based on an opinion that he cannot backup with factual evidence...just because he watches Eagles football games doesn't make him any more of an authority than anyone else who visits these forums. For most part , it really didn't bother me so much the he juiced Westbrooks speed, but he then posted his rosters without clearly notifying potential users of that fact and I find that deceitful. ...So I spoke my mind...which, last time I checked, I was still alowed to do in this country. So I hold no ill will towards him or anyone else here, of course I'll never use his rosters again, but that's a personal choice. Your free to do so. Have a wonder ESPN football day! Cheers

Well he has stated "when asked" that he altred the spd ratings but either way I see your point. You can still revert w/ Finns editor. Ill still use them w/ the mods he made, I enjoy them.

[adriano]

Quote: Originally Posted by ChicagoChris

Agreed. I appreciate everyone doing roster updates but i hate when guys edit their team based on opinion. Why can we not leave the ratings alone? Make a roster with correct depth and player charts only. There is no way T.O. should have a catch rating of 95. I am seeing the Lions with Kevin Jones with a speed rating of 87 and Shawn Bryson at 93? I am confused by this. Isn't Jones one of the fastest players comng out this year?

Jones ran a 4.6 fourty time at the combine.. but If no one told you that.. youd think he was faster.. BECAUSE WITH PADS ON hes fast..lol I really hate fourty times,.. In gym shorts and track shoes some guys can fly.. Put some pads on the and equipment and they cant run as fast.. Westbrook has football speed.. but his track time is 83..4.57 Fourty thats why hes a 83.. But for the game I'd give him a 86 with a 88 agility..



That site for 40times isnt accurate.. TO isnt a 4.3 wideout.. hes big.. has a burst.. a bully.. but isnt built on speed.. Moss is a speed demon.. Owens is a beast.. but not that fast.. these must be stats given by assistant coaches or whatnot..