MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[KingFry]

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Yeah sorry, contribute probably wasn't the smartest word choice, but yeah like you said I don't think they move Bubba if he got things going again in the minors. Add much as it could help my team I want to do everything I can to hold into Utley, dealt him last year in my franchise and I didn't like doing it. I don't really think I want jorge bonifacio just a name I threw out, so I think with the royals I'll just do a Burnett for colon and maybe another low c prospect, but I might wait a bit to do it to see if the royals hang in contention longer.
Still not really sure what to do with Byrd, but I definitely want to move him.

Totally agree with you on Bubba... sucks but it's reality(lol). Although it's not like Colon is bad . For Byrd, I would just flip through teams and see who either needs a DH improvement or an OF improvement. Thats what I did.

[k_mac]

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Thanks for the response.

then though, Walker is pretty available now.

Nova instead of Clarkin perhaps? He has an ERA above 4.50 I believe.

Hamels doesn't really HAVE to move, just would have been an interesting move.

What I was thinking on Shark as well actually, just couldn't come up with much more. Have a deal with Detroit I could do?

Both the Lee deal and the Rollins deals look fair to me.

Walker stays at 2B with Rollins playing SS for the Pirates, I'd assume. If Pittsburgh is going to trade for a reliever, I'd think they're wanting to win, so getting rid of Walker doesn't make sense. I'm assuming that Walker/Rollins are both rated higher than Jordy Mercer, I'm not on the game to know.

I don't think a rebuilding team would rather have Nova, as he's 27. He would just eat innings. I was thinking someone along the lines of Severino or Ramirez. If it's after the draft, just go ahead and do Clarkin if all you're looking for is fairness.

I don't see the Tigers as a fit for Shark, as they have one of the worst systems in the league. Here's my best shot though:

Samardzija for Smyly + Ray + Crawford

They just got Ray for Fister, and drafted Crawford last year. Realistic, not really, but that's what it would take. I think the Cubs could get a better deal somewhere else. If the Dodgers need a pitcher, send him out there. Same goes for the Blue Jays. Just look back through here. Both Lee and Samardzija deals have been discussed time and time again.

[bwoodring9]

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Totally agree with you on Bubba... sucks but it's reality(lol). Although it's not like Colon is bad . For Byrd, I would just flip through teams and see who either needs a DH improvement or an OF improvement. Thats what I did.

Yeah, I'm very excited about Colon! Probably going to plug him into a utility infielder role for the rest of the year once I get him! I'll look for a potential fit for Byrd as well.

[k_mac]

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Man, I really like Cliff Lee as much as the next, but that is a lot to give up for him. I still don't think they trade Gallo at all. Also, with Andrus locked up at SS, and Odor playing really good at 2B, I am starting to think that Profar might just be the odd man out in the middle infield. I think if I were a Rangers Owner that I would look to package Profar+ (at SS, as opposed to 2B, where is value is higher) for a controllable pitcher.

It's not that I don't think Lee is very, very good, and worth top prospects. It would just be hard to swallow shipping out 2 top pitchers, and 2 top hitters - 2 of which are already in the Show, and 2 which are very close. I would be more inclined to trading a lot of younger, 18 or 19 year olds - like Brinson, Guzman, and/or Demeritte.

Gallo isn't "very close." He's going to have to 1.) prove himself outside of A ball, and 2.) stop striking out so much. (He did so 172 times last year). He's a boom or bust guy, and he could easily flame out if his approach doesn't improve. He looks to be playing better this year, and has crazy power. Still nowhere near the majors.

I'm sure the general consensus is that while Odor is a fine player, Profar has more upside. Don't forget that Profar was one of the top prospects in baseball. Profar and Andrus block Odor and Sardinas, so moving one or both of them makes sense.

All four of those guys may be a little much, but Lee isn't cheap. None of those guys are A prospects. They're all in the B range (both pitchers low B's). One of Jackson or Martinez would have to be included. It's that, or give up Alfaro.

[RyanMan82]

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I'd think Cobb would be enough, especially if they struggled last year and wanted to continue adding young pieces for their rebuild.

They didn't bite on it, and before it sent it said, "one or more teams cannot take on the contract", as I signed Cobb to a 4 year 5 mil per deal. Any ideas on who else I could move for him?

[bwoodring9]

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They didn't bite on it, and before it sent it said, "one or more teams cannot take on the contract", as I signed Cobb to a 4 year 5 mil per deal. Any ideas on who else I could move for him?

Mike Montgomery + Enny Romero? Depends if they want more pitching than anything else. Not sure how Enny Romero projects in real life but in the game he looks like a mid C on the rosters I'm using.

[RyanMan82]

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Mike Montgomery + Enny Romero? Depends if they want more pitching than anything else. Not sure how Enny Romero projects in real life but in the game he looks like a mid C on the rosters I'm using.

Montgomery isn't in my game for some reason, but Romero is a C in my game. I'm in a game right now but after words I'll post my RPs and Cs to try swinging this deal.

[bwoodring9]

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After looking at it, I'm not sure TOR in my franchise trade Jimenez and use Kendrick in the rotation. His overall is a 73 and their lowest OVR pitcher in their rotation is a 74, so they might just stick Kendrick in the bullpen, despite his 2.63 ERA and good season thus far. Everyone in their rotation also has sub 4 ERA's other than Drew Hutchison, who's at 4.85. Also, Royals can't take on more expenses from Burnett's contract at the moment... My trades are starting to get messed up haha

[Coper3000]

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Gallo isn't "very close." He's going to have to 1.) prove himself outside of A ball, and 2.) stop striking out so much. (He did so 172 times last year). He's a boom or bust guy, and he could easily flame out if his approach doesn't improve. He looks to be playing better this year, and has crazy power. Still nowhere near the majors.

I'm sure the general consensus is that while Odor is a fine player, Profar has more upside. Don't forget that Profar was one of the top prospects in baseball. Profar and Andrus block Odor and Sardinas, so moving one or both of them makes sense.

All four of those guys may be a little much, but Lee isn't cheap. None of those guys are A prospects. They're all in the B range (both pitchers low B's). One of Jackson or Martinez would have to be included. It's that, or give up Alfaro.

Maybe my point is being missed. I am not arguing with you. What I meant is, if I were on the Rangers side, I would be more inclined to deal Profar+ - whom I believe to be very good - as the main focal point of any trade, so you aren't draining the farm system - which is pretty young, raw, and toolsy.

Of course, Odor is no slouch. He is an elite prospect at 2B. He has a very good hit tool, speed, some pop, and is still very young. He is a very High B. Profar though, as noted, has higher upside, so he should net you a better return, especially considering he is a SS who can play 2B, among other positions. He reminds me of Simmons in ATL.

In regards to Gallo's ETA, I simply meant in the 2017 timeframe. Not some-sort of "video game time" where he's a 2014 September call up. So my wording was poor. He has enormous power, is having an incredible season, has cut down his K rate while upping his BB rate. But, as noted, he still has some kinks to work out - including defense.

I actually think it's a fair trade, and hopefully Profar proves to be good at 2B - otherwise the Rangers dealt Kinsler and Odor away in hopes he reaches his potential (Odor in this trade, of course).

[UTAllTheWay]

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Ok guys, it's about that time. I'm desperately in need of another big bat. Chris Carter is giving me very little. My platooning LFers are starting to pick it up a little bit, but I honestly can't count on them to keep it up for long.

So, my two earlier options are back on the table. I want Alex Gordon or Mike Morse.

Now, I honestly can't choose between the two. Morse is a better bat, but Alex Gordon is a good hitter with excellent fielding ability. So, I'm going to throw these two deals out there. Let me know what you guys think.

Option 1 (Alex Gordon Trade):

I get:
Alex Gordon

Royals get:
Lance McCullers
Domingo Santana

or

Option 2 (Mike Morse Trade):

I get:
Mike Morse

Giants get:
Brad Peacock

Now, for some further details... The Giants are currently 10 games out in their division with a 27-34 record. Brad Peacock's value fits Mike Morse's value to a T in the spreadsheet. Looking at the Giants roster, their top 4 pitchers are pretty dang solid (Bumgarner, Cain, Lincecum, and Andrew Chafin who they picked up in the Rule 5 draft). Tim Hudson has been DREADFUL for them. Now, they have Kyle Crick in their minors, but after him, their young pitching talent falls off considerably. I think Peacock could be a pretty decent young potential guy that can also fill in now for them.

For the Royals, they are 4 games out of their division lead with a 27-31 record. They have a lot of young pitching arms, though. I'm trying to match Alex Gordon's value. McCullers + Santana pretty much fits it perfectly, but I feel like I would need to give up more, honestly. Maybe throw in somebody like Robbie Grossman or Alex Presley? That way they get a Major League now talent back in return as well.

What do you guys think?

[guayo10]

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Samardzija to the Giants. Is Crick a possibility since they don't have anyone else (I mean they do but eh)? The Giants have shown in recent years that they're not scare to trade for someone who will help them win a tittle. No matter the price.

[TheKT]

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Is there any deal the Marlins could swing to pick up a struggling Mike Moustakas without trading any players on the 25 man roster?

[BravesBoy]

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Twins 3B Travis Harrison (B potential, 21 yrs) SS Eduadro Nunez (77 ovr) for Phillies RP Antonio Bastardo (B potential, 78 ovr)?

[bwoodring9]

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Ok guys, it's about that time. I'm desperately in need of another big bat. Chris Carter is giving me very little. My platooning LFers are starting to pick it up a little bit, but I honestly can't count on them to keep it up for long.

So, my two earlier options are back on the table. I want Alex Gordon or Mike Morse.

Now, I honestly can't choose between the two. Morse is a better bat, but Alex Gordon is a good hitter with excellent fielding ability. So, I'm going to throw these two deals out there. Let me know what you guys think.

Option 1 (Alex Gordon Trade):

I get:
Alex Gordon

Royals get:
Lance McCullers
Domingo Santana

or

Option 2 (Mike Morse Trade):

I get:
Mike Morse

Giants get:
Brad Peacock

Now, for some further details... The Giants are currently 10 games out in their division with a 27-34 record. Brad Peacock's value fits Mike Morse's value to a T in the spreadsheet. Looking at the Giants roster, their top 4 pitchers are pretty dang solid (Bumgarner, Cain, Lincecum, and Andrew Chafin who they picked up in the Rule 5 draft). Tim Hudson has been DREADFUL for them. Now, they have Kyle Crick in their minors, but after him, their young pitching talent falls off considerably. I think Peacock could be a pretty decent young potential guy that can also fill in now for them.

For the Royals, they are 4 games out of their division lead with a 27-31 record. They have a lot of young pitching arms, though. I'm trying to match Alex Gordon's value. McCullers + Santana pretty much fits it perfectly, but I feel like I would need to give up more, honestly. Maybe throw in somebody like Robbie Grossman or Alex Presley? That way they get a Major League now talent back in return as well.

What do you guys think?

Morse deal seems ok to me. If Hudson is struggling that badly they can use Peacock as their fill in for him, plus Peacock can contribute right away and he looks to be a pretty solid back end of the rotation guy based on his attributes. For Gordon, I'd think you would need to give up some more. If they are only 4 games out I don't see them moving Gordon, but it could happen if they fall further out of contention within the next few weeks. I like the idea of sending Domingo Santana to them as his power potential is pretty nice. I also like McCullers going to them but he still appears to be a few years away. The way I see it the Royals have been waiting to start contending for a while now and if they did fall out of contention this year and be willing to deal Gordon they'd probably want MLB ready talent to help contribute right away so they can contend next year, although they do kinda have 2 guys in Zimmer and Ventura who are either ready or close to ready so they may not want another near ready guy who might be blocked by those two now that I think about it. With all that being said, I've been thinking about it and McCullers could be a nice package for them along with Grossman, and maybe Santana... or maybe replace McCullers with Foltynewicz or something. Looking at it that looks like a lot to give up but I'm not sure KC would part with Gordon very quickly.

[bwoodring9]

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Twins 3B Travis Harrison (B potential, 21 yrs) SS Eduadro Nunez (77 ovr) for Phillies RP Antonio Bastardo (B potential, 78 ovr)?

Too much for Bastardo in my opinion. I'd pick whichever one you want to deal and do a 1 for 1 trade instead of both of them.