MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Starting a Royals franchise. I'm planning some possible moves to make at the deadline ahead of time. Does anyone think the Royals have enough to make a move for CarGo?

Possibly. What are you willing to deal? What are you not willing to trade? Your odds go up if you'd be willing to deal from the group of Ventura, Bonifacio, Mondesi, Manaea, Zimmer, Dozier, Colon etc...

[Dienerbird55]

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Possibly. What are you willing to deal? What are you not willing to trade? Your odds go up if you'd be willing to deal from the group of Ventura, Bonifacio, Mondesi, Manaea, Zimmer, Dozier, Colon etc...

I'm pretty open to trading just about anyone. I'm just looking to see what a fair and realistic trade would look like is KC is in the playoff hunt and needs an outfielder while COL is out of it in July.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I'm pretty open to trading just about anyone. I'm just looking to see what a fair and realistic trade would look like is KC is in the playoff hunt and needs an outfielder while COL is out of it in July.

Assuming KC is a buyer and COL is a seller, it could work. It's a good idea to check out the spreadsheet (see link in OP) to start scheming for what it would take to net CarGo.

[nl15]

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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/bryce-harper-puts-washington-nationals-manager-matt-williams-in-tough-position-070214

Thoughts?

[moth to a flame]

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Honestly, for the realism, I don't care how bad the Rockies get, I don't see them trading either Tulo or CarGo. Their contracts are REALLY team friendly. SCEA made Tulo's not so in the game, though.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/b...osition-070214

Thoughts?

Initial thoughts after reading are that this probably belongs in the Off Topic thread rather than in the Trade Discussion thread. Aside from that, it does not make Bryce Harper a realistic trade target if that was why this was posted here.

[Bard]

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Huh??? Your post simply asked if Montero could be dealt and you provided no specifics on how anyone was doing or any stats. Not sure what more you could've wanted. It could be realistic in the right scenario although I have no idea if it would work (no details given) in your chise.



No chance. Other teams could and would beat the Dodgers in bidding for CarGo/Tulo. It's just not realistic to deal a star within the division so you can face him 18-20 times per season. If you don't care about realism though, go for it.

Was just looking for a yes or a no then I would give out stats and such. Possibly is like maybe, not a clear answer. Wasn't being rude so hopefully wasn't taken like that, was just searching for more of a clear answer. Also it is simple to answer in the context I asked, I asked if the D-Backs were out of contention (rebuilding) would they trade him. That off the bat didn't need stats or standings. Just doing some clarification, doesn't matter now


Anyway, back on topic and off that... Jays are 51-39, the Sox are 49-41 (Sox may be a few more games less), the D-Backs are 12 GB from WC, and Dodgers are running away with it. Jays have Navarro as their starter who is at a .220 AVG and under .300 OBP, while both Sox C are actually near that as well with Ross hitting below .200 and OBP round .260. Just wanted some insight on a far offer from both clubs for Montero.

[CameRoN0407]

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Honestly, for the realism, I don't care how bad the Rockies get, I don't see them trading either Tulo or CarGo. Their contracts are REALLY team friendly. SCEA made Tulo's not so in the game, though.

Realistically, if Colorado is way out, and they have the opportunity to get the best farm in baseball by trading them, Dan O'Dowd would get fired for not pulling the trigger.

Initial thoughts after reading are that this probably belongs in the Off Topic thread rather than in the Trade Discussion thread. Aside from that, it does not make Bryce Harper a realistic trade target if that was why this was posted here.

Figured I let someone else tell him it was off-topic, did it yesterday so I paid my dues.

[moth to a flame]

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Realistically, if Colorado is way out, and they have the opportunity to get the best farm in baseball by trading them, Dan O'Dowd would get fired for not pulling the trigger.

They were way out of it last year, and this year, and have the best SS and a great OF, its hard to imagine that that trigger isn't there to pull for at least one of them. Their offense is already set, they just need pitching. No way they blow up that offense and reset. I only see them tinkering around with the pitching and trying to make it work.

[CameRoN0407]

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They were way out of it last year, and this year, and have the best SS and a great OF, its hard to imagine that that trigger isn't there to pull for at least one of them. Their offense is already set, they just need pitching. No way they blow up that offense and reset. I only see them tinkering around with the pitching and trying to make it work.

That adds to my side. They've been out of it for a while, and obviously should sell to add to the pitching crop of Jon Gray, and Eddie Butler and the positional crop of David Dahl, and Rosell Herrera. Just imagine having a whole new crop, who alone could be a top 5 farm if you trade Tulo and CarGo. If I was O'Dowd, my mouth would be watering...

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I agree that COL will take a look at trading CarGo. Tulo is a guy they probably hold onto.

[Gagnon39]

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I know not everyone will be into this idea, but some of my fellow role-playing gamers might. I've been thinking about trades that I'd like to make and while it is very nice to have everyone on here talking about what they think might or might not ever happen, the truth is, none of us are real general managers. While there's some obvious deals that would never go through there's always some that surprise us. For me, the more I read about the Samardzija deal, that might be one of those. Honestly, if I proposed that how many people on here would have said that one would have gone through and been "realistic."

Most people would have said, "The A's are not looking for two starting pitchers," or, "there's no way the A's would trade their two top prospects, Addison Russell is not going to be traded," etc.

Well, it happened. And again, this might not be the best example, but you get the point.

What I'm considering, and again, maybe not for everyone. Is when we have a deal that's questionable, we could put it to a dice roll. If it's a reasonable trade it could be that you have to roll a 6-sided die 3 or higher. If it's a trade that you don't think would be very likely, make it where you have to roll a six or it doesn't go through.

The reason for this is simple, at least in my mind. As it stands right now, I don't really "trade" in the game with any team. There's no part that thinks, "man, I wonder if they'll accept this deal." That element is missing because the trading logic is so flawed. Incorporating a system like this would at least add a little bit to the process of trading a player.

Just a though, and a small aspect of my nerdyness.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Definitely not on board with the dice roll thing. The whole point of the spreadsheet, this thread, and everyone in it is to bring a rational approach to an irrational game. Adding dice roll elements completely ruins any realism not to mention fairness and opens up anyone feeling justified with any ridiculous deal they propose if only they can roll a six.

If people start coming in here saying "I'm gonna trade Luis Valbuena for Stanton straight up because I rolled a 6 so it's fair" I might just move to another country, have a stroke, or both. At the very least, I would never answer a post by anyone who did this and hope the 6-7 people in here actively helping in here would follow suit.

Sorry to come down so hard opposed to this, but it really is contrary to the entire spirit of this thread. And if you analyze the Samardzija for Russell deal, I'm not too sure you'll find the spreadsheet was way off anyway...so not seeing the impetus for this approach.

[Totte]

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I agree with WTNY. With all the knowledge lurking in this thread and these boards, I'd rather see the spreadsheet tweaked if there's something that comes on as off value wise (or under the notes section).

I'm constantly making minor tweaks to it and hopefully there will be a new and improved version out after the deadline with each organizations Top 30 BA prospects in it

[AC]

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Most people would have said, "The A's are not looking for two starting pitchers," or, "there's no way the A's would trade their two top prospects, Addison Russell is not going to be traded," etc.

Strongly incorrect assumption.