MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[kmoser]

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In my Marlins franchise, I'm thinking about trying to find some good hitting prospects to trade for (going for fair possibilities over "perfect" realism since this all becomes fantasy after a while) instead of dealing the one should-be-awesome hitter we have (Stanton).

I have a LOT of good-performing pitching prospects in the system with B potential with Feliz climbing to an "A" and some of the others getting those good reports from the Farm Director which mean potential increases. Some of the notables that I'm looking at shopping (I don't think any of these guys are on the spreadsheet that I have):

-SP Adam Conley (AAA, 70/B, 23 years old, 87 Velocity, already near/at MLB quality in HR/9 and H/9).

-SP Anthony Desclafani (just up to MLB, 69/B, 23, plus MLB level velocity and movement, solid at H/9)

-SP Michael Feliz (AAA, flying up the system, 65/A, 20, 91 velocity - hits 98 when I tried him in a MiLB game, 67 K/9, mid 50's in other /9's, has work to do but has done nothing but succeed and potential is at "A" now, part of me doesn't want to deal him as he looks like Guerrieri for me last year, a kid that shot up and never looked back)

-SP Trevor Williams (AA, 63/B with potential increases, 21, solid pitches, 60/76/63 pitch ratings, 57 H/9)

-SP Jose Urena (AA, 64/B another that's gotten a potential increase, 22, coming out of nowhere, velocity starting to climb into the 80's along with his BB/9 at 60. Still has rough edges, though)


Any thoughts one some young hitting prospects/major leaguers that would be fair, or any idea on how to value these guys in terms of what's on the spreadsheet and then I can do my own work? (I just have no idea how the values are determined)

Since Michael Feliz and Jose Urena are doing well and increasing in potential you could package them together and get a good hitter.


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[AC]

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Any thoughts one some young hitting prospects/major leaguers that would be fair, or any idea on how to value these guys in terms of what's on the spreadsheet and then I can do my own work? (I just have no idea how the values are determined)

If I were you I'd just be drafting pitching prospects and packaging them for young hitters at positions of need. So your infield. But don't deal Feliz unless it's super worth it, love him. I'd also be targeting fly ball pitchers with good periphs like Phil Hughes before the year. I'm gonna split them into buckets of guys with high FB% and good periphs.

****ty cheap scrubs:
Zach McAllister
Eric Stults
Kyle Kendrick

Decent affordable guys playing badly:
R.A. Dickey
Marco Estrada
Chris Tillman
Travis Wood

Good guys who won't cost much but have high salaries:
Edwin Jackson
Charlie Morton

I'd be looking at guys like that to make up your pitching staff and trading your pitching "prospects" (TNSTAAPP) for young hitters.

That was just in addition to what I believed at first. Glasnow has not only risen (which, again, is not my main reason)

Cool, but:

It's not what I believe should be a rise in stock.

So far it has been, hasn't been, and is kinda your reasoning. I just disagree with your valuation in general, but here I'm just kinda trying to help you not talk yourself into a million different directions, all of which are mutually exclusive.

[CameRoN0407]

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Cool, but:



So far it has been, hasn't been, and is kinda your reasoning. I just disagree with your valuation in general, but here I'm just kinda trying to help you not talk yourself into a million different directions, all of which are mutually exclusive.

Well now it's been pointed out that I should think before I post. But anyway, my general idea is that he is a top prospect, was before the season, and is now. I was using his stock rise as one of my reason. I said that with the interpretation of it not being just limited to the stock rise. It is one reason, but not the whole reason.

[AC]

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Well now it's been pointed out that I should think before I post. But anyway, my general idea is that he is a top prospect, was before the season, and is now. I was using his stock rise as one of my reason. I said that with the interpretation of it not being just limited to the stock rise. It is one reason, but not the whole reason.

Just make sure form a singular opinion and stick with it. lol


Anywho, I feel like Glasnow's probably Kyle Crick on a different team with worse stuff but maybe better control. Similar HR limiting abilities, similar K's per 9, but Crick is walking more. They're actually pretty solid comparables. Although Crick is in AA and Glasnow in A+ so Crick is more valuable. Crick is a Mid B and Low B. I'd probably bump that up a bit to a high B and then have Glasnow as a Mid B, Low B, high C.

[CameRoN0407]

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Just make sure form a singular opinion and stick with it. lol


Anywho, I feel like Glasnow's probably Kyle Crick on a different team with worse stuff but maybe better control. Similar HR limiting abilities, similar K's per 9, but Crick is walking more. They're actually pretty solid comparables. Although Crick is in AA and Glasnow in A+ so Crick is more valuable. Crick is a Mid B and Low B. I'd probably bump that up a bit to a high B and then have Glasnow as a Mid B, Low B, high C.

Well I did, but contradicted my reasons.

I like that, as Pittsburgh will get 2 B prospects, in addition of a High C. This is a case of quantity over quality, but that's what baseball is sometimes.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Just make sure form a singular opinion and stick with it. lol


Anywho, I feel like Glasnow's probably Kyle Crick on a different team with worse stuff but maybe better control. Similar HR limiting abilities, similar K's per 9, but Crick is walking more. They're actually pretty solid comparables. Although Crick is in AA and Glasnow in A+ so Crick is more valuable. Crick is a Mid B and Low B. I'd probably bump that up a bit to a high B and then have Glasnow as a Mid B, Low B, high C.

Eerie...In my earlier post about Glasnow being a low A (according to me), I had a sentence comparing him to Crick just off the cuff, and I deleted it because I didn't feel like fishing for stats. But then you also pull out Crick, lol

I feel that both Crick and Glasnow are high B at minimum for their first value. I'd actually like to see each one a low A with no secondary values, but that's just my take (which of course is correct tho).

[AC]

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WTNY, we probably value their talent exactly the same as each other. I just apply a fair significant discount to pitching prospects because pitchers. Arm explosions. Boom.

[CJ10]

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Has anyone been able to get the A's to take the real life trade of giving straily and russell for shark and hammel? If so what 3rd player did you throw in for the cubs to make it happen? Im in 2014 of a chise and trying to get it done.

[CameRoN0407]

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Has anyone been able to get the A's to take the real life trade of giving straily and russell for shark and hammel? If so what 3rd player did you throw in for the cubs to make it happen? Im in 2014 of a chise and trying to get it done.

"30-Team Control. Learn it. Live it. Love it." -AC

[kmoser]

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Has anyone been able to get the A's to take the real life trade of giving straily and russell for shark and hammel? If so what 3rd player did you throw in for the cubs to make it happen? Im in 2014 of a chise and trying to get it done.

Lower Russell's potential to like 30 and they will accept. Then after you get him just fix his potential to where it was.
Also like the above post 30 team control helps out a lot too


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[CJ10]

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Lower Russell's potential to like 30 and they will accept. Then after you get him just fix his potential to where it was.
Also like the above post 30 team control helps out a lot too


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Thanks Ill lower the potential. I hate 30 team control lol, I barely have time to run one organization.

[CameRoN0407]

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Thanks Ill lower the potential. I hate 30 team control lol, I barely have time to run one organization.

You only have to run your team. It's a combination of a few settings that let you control your own team, while the CPU controls theirs. I don't want to clog the thread, so I recommend looking into it on the forums somewhere if your interested.

[kmoser]

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Thanks Ill lower the potential. I hate 30 team control lol, I barely have time to run one organization.

This was my first year to do 30 team control and I have given up a few times because it was time consuming but every bad trade I saw when I was controlling just one team persuaded me to try one more time and I am now getting used to it. Takes some time though


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[WaitTilNextYear]

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From MLBTR:


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JULY 15, 6:35pm: The concern regarding Aiken involves his ulnar collateral ligament (UCL), a source tells Evan Drellich of the Houston Chronicle. “He may have some [of the ligament], but not much,” the source said, apparently referring to the natural size — rather than any tearing — of Aiken’s UCL. A hypothetical Tommy John procedure would not be a straightforward solution in Aiken’s case, the source adds.

Should we add UCL size as a new column in the spreadsheet?looool

[Legaci3]

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Any way possible for the yankees to trade for Matt Kemp + Dee Gordon or Elvis Andrus?