MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[HozAndMoose]

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Oh, I didn't know that, I wonder who's manning 3rd when he's at SS


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Well he actually hasn't played SS since June 1st. Johnathan Herrera played 3rd that day. Brock Holt seems to be the guy that plays 3rd when Bogaerts sits now.

[CameRoN0407]

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Dont watch the Sox much so idk if he was moved to 3rd for good or not. But he has played more games at SS this year than he has 3rd.

No way is Xander staying there. He is our SS of the future, and should keep his services there for the mean time.

Oh, I didn't know that, I wonder who's manning 3rd when he's at SS


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Holt, Cecchini, WMB

Brock HOLT and Willie Middlebrooks can both play 3B. Coyle is in the pipeline as well.

Don't forget about Cecchini.

[Gagnon39]

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Almost at the trade deadline and here are some potential deals that I wanted some thoughts on.

Dodgers need a pitcher...

Would the Diamondbacks part with Trevor Cahill or Brandon McCarthy? Both of them are having great years in my game despite the fact that Arizona is having an awful year. Their records aren't fantastic but their ERA's are really good.

Cahill is 3-0 with a 2.45 ERA while McCarthy is 9-7 with a 2.81 ERA.

What might the Diamondbacks want in return?

Also, Max Schrzer is in his last year of his contract and the Tigers are not going to be making the playoffs. Any chance they'd deal him to in my scenario?

[ESexton18]

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So I started a new Phillies franchise not long ago and I've been trying to keep all trades realistic to what has happened this year in MLB.

I'm on July 19th and was going to do the Huston Street trade to the Angels, but the Padres are currently a game up in the AL West and I don't feel like I should trade their closer away when they have a legitimate playoff shot.

How realistic do you guys keep things? I feel like this was a good idea at first, but since the standings don't line up with real life it's kind of tough to do some of the trades that may happen from now to the deadline.

[hampshirestags]

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Almost at the trade deadline and here are some potential deals that I wanted some thoughts on.

Dodgers need a pitcher...

Would the Diamondbacks part with Trevor Cahill or Brandon McCarthy? Both of them are having great years in my game despite the fact that Arizona is having an awful year. Their records aren't fantastic but their ERA's are really good.

Cahill is 3-0 with a 2.45 ERA while McCarthy is 9-7 with a 2.81 ERA.

What might the Diamondbacks want in return?

Also, Max Schrzer is in his last year of his contract and the Tigers are not going to be making the playoffs. Any chance they'd deal him to in my scenario?

McCarthy was dealt to NYY for V. Nuno. Though his numbers were not as good as they are in your sim, I would think M. Magill, R. Patterson or S. Fife could be swapped 1 for 1. I am low on McCarthy though so you might want to add a piece because he is performing well.

I think mad Max signs somewhere else in the off season but couldn't see a team trading for him without a contract in place.

[hampshirestags]

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Damnit, I had my eye on Peterson.

I just honestly don't know. Can you guys think of any Reyes deals? He's a high quality SS, it shouldn't be this hard to deal him.

It's not hard to deal Reyes. It's hard to deal him for the pieces you want. Have you though about teams with short re-load windows (CIN, PHI, ARZ)? Even if you don't get what you want from a team like that, you can get good pieces, package them with a piece of yours and go buy the player(s) you want.

You're not seriously considering solving the Yanks problem at SS are you?! Shame on you.

I looked at Beltre and his contract really isn't that awful if you ignore the 16mm vesting option in '16. He's got approx. 25mm left through '15, a third of that is 8.33 and while that may be attractive to small market teams, he is a legit star and worth that type of money. Sheet has him B+/B+/B-. Close enough that it's not worth the debate. Coming full circle, considering his age, I really don't think the money moves the needle all that much. Now if it's a 3 team, 10 player deal...well, no, not much in that case either.

Has anybody noticed that Beltre is on a career BA pace? At 35.

[hampshirestags]

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So I started a new Phillies franchise not long ago and I've been trying to keep all trades realistic to what has happened this year in MLB.

I'm on July 19th and was going to do the Huston Street trade to the Angels, but the Padres are currently a game up in the AL West and I don't feel like I should trade their closer away when they have a legitimate playoff shot.

How realistic do you guys keep things? I feel like this was a good idea at first, but since the standings don't line up with real life it's kind of tough to do some of the trades that may happen from now to the deadline.

How are the Angels doing? If poorly, reverse the trade and have SD buy a RP from them. You could also sub Benoit in place of Street to still get the pieces but make sure SD bullpen can absorb the loss.

[AC]

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It's not hard to deal Reyes. It's hard to deal him for the pieces you want. Have you though about teams with short re-load windows (CIN, PHI, ARZ)? Even if you don't get what you want from a team like that, you can get good pieces, package them with a piece of yours and go buy the player(s) you want.

You're not seriously considering solving the Yanks problem at SS are you?! Shame on you.

I looked at Beltre and his contract really isn't that awful if you ignore the 16mm vesting option in '16. He's got approx. 25mm left through '15, a third of that is 8.33 and while that may be attractive to small market teams, he is a legit star and worth that type of money. Sheet has him B+/B+/B-. Close enough that it's not worth the debate. Coming full circle, considering his age, I really don't think the money moves the needle all that much. Now if it's a 3 team, 10 player deal...well, no, not much in that case either.

Has anybody noticed that Beltre is on a career BA pace? At 35.

That's the thing. I'd love to deal him to Cincy, but they likely wouldn't take on the money. I'd love to deal him to Philly (actually no I wouldn't their farm sucks) but they're rebuilding and they have Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. I'd love to deal him to Arizona (kinda) but they have Chris Owings and Aaron Hill and Martin Prado AND they're selling.

The Yankees have many more problems, lol. Plus they're losing most of their prospect ammo in this deal.

Right now I'm thinking of a few options.

1. Yankees get Reyes. Jays get Aaron Judge and Arismendy Alcantara. Cubs get Luis Severino. I'd think the Cubs would deal Arismendy for an easy top 50 pitching prospect. Severino is so good. I'm actually a little tempted to keep him. But this fits my needs pretty decently.

2. Oakland gets Reyes+cash??? This is the tricky one. I love Daniel Robertson. A lot. Probably an unhealthy amount. Thing is, I dunno who else the A's would deal besides that and if I'm eating cash I want something good back. Robertson + Olson + Nunez, maybe, but that seems a little underwhelming. No real headliner. Not even a top 100 spect and I'm eating salary.

3. What would sending him to Pittsburgh + *some* cash get me? That's a tricky thing, cause I'm avoiding pitching prospects.

4. As much as I hate doing this, what do you think the Orioles would send? They could put Reyes at 2nd.

5. I'd ask on the Indians but we'd get that guy with 27 accounts in here.

It just seems like no one with a really good prospect needs a MIF.

[CKW11]

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Can I get any value for BJ Upton batting .240/.291/.346?

[k_mac]

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That's the thing. I'd love to deal him to Cincy, but they likely wouldn't take on the money. I'd love to deal him to Philly (actually no I wouldn't their farm sucks) but they're rebuilding and they have Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. I'd love to deal him to Arizona (kinda) but they have Chris Owings and Aaron Hill and Martin Prado AND they're selling.



The Yankees have many more problems, lol. Plus they're losing most of their prospect ammo in this deal.



Right now I'm thinking of a few options.



1. Yankees get Reyes. Jays get Aaron Judge and Arismendy Alcantara. Cubs get Luis Severino. I'd think the Cubs would deal Arismendy for an easy top 50 pitching prospect. Severino is so good. I'm actually a little tempted to keep him. But this fits my needs pretty decently.



2. Oakland gets Reyes+cash??? This is the tricky one. I love Daniel Robertson. A lot. Probably an unhealthy amount. Thing is, I dunno who else the A's would deal besides that and if I'm eating cash I want something good back. Robertson + Olson + Nunez, maybe, but that seems a little underwhelming. No real headliner. Not even a top 100 spect and I'm eating salary.



3. What would sending him to Pittsburgh + *some* cash get me? That's a tricky thing, cause I'm avoiding pitching prospects.



4. As much as I hate doing this, what do you think the Orioles would send? They could put Reyes at 2nd.



5. I'd ask on the Indians but we'd get that guy with 27 accounts in here.



It just seems like no one with a really good prospect needs a MIF.

I think you could easily get Bell or Hanson and another piece from PIT for Reyes + cash. If that interests you.

You also seem dead-set on getting Arismendy. Lol and I don't blame you. Right now, I don't see him going anywhere, especially not for a pitching prospect. Trust me, I know that is the one thing we lack. If we deal prospects, it's going to be for a guy who is proven, or extremely close to being in the bigs.

[ESexton18]

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How are the Angels doing? If poorly, reverse the trade and have SD buy a RP from them. You could also sub Benoit in place of Street to still get the pieces but make sure SD bullpen can absorb the loss.

The Angels are in 3rd place so it doesn't make much sense to do the real life trade haha... I think I'll just treat the deadline in the game separate from the trades that have happened in real life. Otherwise I'll have teams who are out of it in the game being buyers when they should be sellers and vice versa.

[hampshirestags]

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That's the thing. I'd love to deal him to Cincy, but they likely wouldn't take on the money. I'd love to deal him to Philly (actually no I wouldn't their farm sucks) but they're rebuilding and they have Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. I'd love to deal him to Arizona (kinda) but they have Chris Owings and Aaron Hill and Martin Prado AND they're selling.

The Yankees have many more problems, lol. Plus they're losing most of their prospect ammo in this deal.

Right now I'm thinking of a few options.

1. Yankees get Reyes. Jays get Aaron Judge and Arismendy Alcantara. Cubs get Luis Severino. I'd think the Cubs would deal Arismendy for an easy top 50 pitching prospect. Severino is so good. I'm actually a little tempted to keep him. But this fits my needs pretty decently.

2. Oakland gets Reyes+cash??? This is the tricky one. I love Daniel Robertson. A lot. Probably an unhealthy amount. Thing is, I dunno who else the A's would deal besides that and if I'm eating cash I want something good back. Robertson + Olson + Nunez, maybe, but that seems a little underwhelming. No real headliner. Not even a top 100 spect and I'm eating salary.

3. What would sending him to Pittsburgh + *some* cash get me? That's a tricky thing, cause I'm avoiding pitching prospects.

4. As much as I hate doing this, what do you think the Orioles would send? They could put Reyes at 2nd.

5. I'd ask on the Indians but we'd get that guy with 27 accounts in here.

It just seems like no one with a really good prospect needs a MIF.

Help CIN take on the money. Here is your dance partner on a 3 team with NYY. Reyes to CIN, B. Phillips to NYY, TOR get Stephenson (good arm, you'll like him), Judge, etc. Build the pieces around the value.

1. No. NYY does not get Reyes. They can buy H. Ramirez next year.

2. OAK doesn't have the pieces or budget room. Plus, like you said, you're not getting much back.

3. Eh...All arms in that system. Couple good prospect bats but Reyes to PIT sticks out like a...pick your phrase.

4. Nah. Peter A. is saving his money for C. Davis. They will QO Wieters to get the draft pick back from this year. Plus, who wants a 22mm 2nd base? Now if Manny doesn't get his head screwed on straight,... who throws a bat?!?!?

5. Now there is a possibility. Maybe a 2 year rental and move him later to get out of the money. Hmmm.

[KBLover]

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Still pondering that Sano acquisition for the Marlins.

I've read, and Sano's in-game ratings would agree, that Sano is likely destined for corner outfield so his arm can be a tool while less overall demands than the hot corner defensively.

Of course, I'd want to teach him 3B (train his defense), but, assuming it would be best to put him in LF - would it make sense to trade Yelich (and Heaney, but I can see dealing Heaney, especially in my franchise)?

I don't know... (looking mostly for fairness and overall sense).

[royals19]

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AC, I suppose you could theoretically trade Reyes to the Royals if you wanted to. They need a decent leadoff hitter and an upgrade at shortstop. I've pretty much jumped the Royals fan ship this year because I'm getting sick of the roller coaster and for a host of other reasons I don't really want to get into in this thread.

With that being said though, I could see the Royals giving up Jorge Bonifacio and Elier Hernandez to get a deal done. Bonfiacio is probably a .280 hitter with 20 home run power in his prime. Hernandez is the prospect you want though. The Royals think he has a higher ceiling than Bubba Starling. He's also 2-3 years younger and his tools, IMO, are more refined than Starling's. In any deal though, you'd probably have to take back Escobar as well... something to consider.

[ESexton18]

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I'm approaching the deadline in my franchise as mentioned, now that I figured out I won't be going along with the real life MLB deadline here's some ideas I'm thinking of for trades. Apologize for the long post I'm about to put but I do value your guys opinions to keep things realistic and fair.

Standings July 20th:

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NL East:
WAS - 62-33
ATL - 52-44 10.5 GB
NYM 47-48 15 GB
PHI 41-55 21.5 GB
MIA 36-59 26 GB

NL Central:
MIL 56-40
STL 48-49 8.5 GB
PIT 46-49 9.5 GB
CIN 46-49 9.5 GB
CHC 38-57 17.5 GB

NL West:
LAD 58-39
ARI 53-43 4.5 GB
SD 52-43 5 GB
COL 31-55 16.5 GB
39-57 18.5 GB

NL Wild Card (only teams with a realistic chance listed):
ARI
SD
ATL .5 GB
STL 5 GB
NYM 5 GB
PIT 6 GB

AL East:
TOR 57-39
BOS 56-39 1 GB
NYY 52-43 4.5 GB
TB 51-46 6.5 GB
BAL 42-53 14.5 GB

AL Central:
DET 47-47
CLE 46-50 2.0 GB
MIN 44-51 3.5 GB
KC 43-52 4.5 GB
CWS 36-61 12.5 GB

AL West:
SEA 55-40
TEX 50-45 5.0 GB
HOU 48-48 7.5 GB
OAK 47-48 8.0 GB
LAA 44-51 11 GB

AL Wild Card:
BOS
NYY
TB 2 GB
TEX 2 GB
HOU 4.5 GB
OAK 5 GB

I've identified clear sellers in the Phillies, Marlins, Cubs, Rockies, Giants Orioles, and White Sox. There are clear buyers like the Dodgers and other big market teams and teams that are in the race but I don't feel comfortable making big moves with like Houston and Minnesota. All trades up until this weekend in real life have been made. Here are my big trade ideas I'd appreciate feedback on:

Phillies and Dodgers:

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Phillies send Cole Hamels and Carlos Ruiz for Julio Urias(A), Joc Pederson(B), and Zach Lee(B).

Hamels is 8-5 with a 2.65 ERA, the Dodgers have a solid rotation but this deal solidifies their rotation for a world series push. Ruiz is being added as AJ Ellis is out 2 months and Tim Fedorowicz is hitting .179 in his absence.

Phillies and Red Sox

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Phillies send Cliff Lee for Henry Ownes (A) and Blake Swihart (B)

Lee is 6-9 but with a 2.67 ERA. Lester is on the DL for a month and the Sox currently have only 1 pitcher with a sub 4 ERA.

Giants and Blue Jays:

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Giants send Pablo Sandoval for Aaron Sanchez(A) and Dalton Pompey(C)

Sanodval is killing the ball in his walk year with a .290 avg, 20 HR, and 64 RBI on a team out of the race. Brett Lowrie is hitting .217 but could move to second base where Ryan Goins is hitting .201 as the starter. If Sanchez is too much for a rental player I could add Norris or Osuna who are both B potential.

Orioles and Tigers:

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Baltimore sends JJ Hardy for Corey Knebel (B)

Hardy is only hitting .248 but he has 16 HR and 40 RBI. Jose Iglesias is hitting .221 with 2 HR's for Detroit.

Orioles and Mariners:

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Orioles send Nelson Cruz for Gabby Guerrero(B) and Patrick Kiviehan(B)

Cruz is hitting .264 with 22 HR and 52 RBI. Endy Chavez is hitting .197 as the starting CF for SEA, but Dustin Ackley will move to CF from LF

Phillies and Yankees:

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Phillies send Jonathan Papelbon for Gary Sanchez(B)

David Robertson has a 5.64 ERA as the closer for the Yanks. Papelbon has a 1.82 ERA with 22 saves for the Phillies.

I'm also considering dealing CarGo because the Rockies are in dire straits financial in the OSFM roster with him and Tulo's salary. I would think CarGo more likely to be dealt than Tulo. The Padres could use a top of the rotation starter as well.

There's some smaller deals I'll make on my own, but I would love feedback on these bigger deals from anyone who is willing to read through all that haha. Thanks guys.