MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[hampshirestags]

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Still pondering that Sano acquisition for the Marlins.

I've read, and Sano's in-game ratings would agree, that Sano is likely destined for corner outfield so his arm can be a tool while less overall demands than the hot corner defensively.

Of course, I'd want to teach him 3B (train his defense), but, assuming it would be best to put him in LF - would it make sense to trade Yelich (and Heaney, but I can see dealing Heaney, especially in my franchise)?

I don't know... (looking mostly for fairness and overall sense).

Sano will be just fine at 3b. He will eventually move to the OF but I think we're quite a few years away from that. I know I will get pushback on this but he came up as a SS and if you remove his first year in A ball learning to play the position, his defensive rating are comparable to most young 3b in the league.

There is a logjam of development lefties in the system and with an early draft pick, I can replace one of them. While looking at the MIN roster for a second piece, I've decided I want Rosario too. So here is my latest proposal...

Yelich+Heaney+Nicolino+DeSclafai for Sano+Rosario

Frankly I'm thrilled I don't have to give Moran so, in the end, I may remove Rosario and DeSclafai so I don't appear greedy.

[Godgers12]

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I let this trade go, because it seemed fair, and I got a bit of a chuckle out of it. I was trailing the O's 6-0 in the 8th, when they went to their bull pen, Zunino walked (that's an accomplishment in it self!), followed by an Ackley walk, James Jones infield hit, followed by a Brad Miller grand slam, making it 6-4, then Cano hit a double, followed by a Giancarlo Stanton 2 run HR to tie it. I ended up winning 8-7 in 11, thanks to a Brad Miller 2 run double, he had him self quite the game.

Anyways, literally the next day I check proposed trades, and they want to deal an A potential pitching prospect (not Bundy, forgot his name though) to the Rangers for Tanner Scheppers. I let the trade go through because it seemed fair, and kind of desperate, and everyone in their pen has an ERA over 4.5. As for the Rangers, they're hopelessly out of it already.

Is it a fair realistic trade or should I rethink it? I believe that's the first trade I let go through, other than a swap of two C pot players.

[KBLover]

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Sano will be just fine at 3b. He will eventually move to the OF but I think we're quite a few years away from that. I know I will get pushback on this but he came up as a SS and if you remove his first year in A ball learning to play the position, his defensive rating are comparable to most young 3b in the league.

There is a logjam of development lefties in the system and with an early draft pick, I can replace one of them. While looking at the MIN roster for a second piece, I've decided I want Rosario too. So here is my latest proposal...

Yelich+Heaney+Nicolino+DeSclafai for Sano+Rosario

Frankly I'm thrilled I don't have to give Moran so, in the end, I may remove Rosario and DeSclafai so I don't appear greedy.

Nice - I'll have to check out Rosario. And if I move Desclafani, I could make room for Michael Feliz or Angel Sanchez, who has done pretty well in my franchise so far (as much as I can't wait to play with Kolek, I'll have to resist rushing the 19-year-old LOL). Or Jacob Turner. Or maybe give that scrub Henderson Alvarez (he's sucking hard for me) another chance.

Plus I do like the idea of grooming a slugger to go with Stanton in the coming years. Just have to figure out who'll play LF (is that why you included Rosario?)

[AC]

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Help CIN take on the money. Here is your dance partner on a 3 team with NYY. Reyes to CIN, B. Phillips to NYY, TOR get Stephenson (good arm, you'll like him), Judge, etc. Build the pieces around the value.

1. No. NYY does not get Reyes. They can buy H. Ramirez next year.

2. OAK doesn't have the pieces or budget room. Plus, like you said, you're not getting much back.

3. Eh...All arms in that system. Couple good prospect bats but Reyes to PIT sticks out like a...pick your phrase.

4. Nah. Peter A. is saving his money for C. Davis. They will QO Wieters to get the draft pick back from this year. Plus, who wants a 22mm 2nd base? Now if Manny doesn't get his head screwed on straight,... who throws a bat?!?!?

5. Now there is a possibility. Maybe a 2 year rental and move him later to get out of the money. Hmmm.

What's the Reds' motivation there? It's a lateral move and I already have my own Stephenson in Sanchez.

1. Dodgers have something to say about that. And even then. Reyes SS. Hanley 3B. A-Rod DH.

2. I'd be eating money.

3. @KMac here too. I'd be interested in Bell and Hanson, maybe.

4. Again, I'm eating money.

5. Eh. The Indians' farm isn't all that stellar.

With that being said though, I could see the Royals giving up Jorge Bonifacio and Elier Hernandez to get a deal done.

Ewwwwwwwwww.

Giants and Blue Jays:

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Giants send Pablo Sandoval for Aaron Sanchez(A) and Dalton Pompey(C)
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Dalton Pompey is a C? Can you edit him to a high B? For some reason, AA has made him untouchable in trade talks. Swap Pompey out for a guy like Davis or Smith Jr and it's really good if you move Lawrie to second.

[blackninja]

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Around break, Cards 2.5 out of division, 1.5 out of WC.

Mark Ellis is on the 60 day DL, replacement is struggling and prospects are not ready. Ellis was playing well before injury hitting around .260. He could be back around mid of August but looking to get some help for them.

The twins, stros, rangers, red sox, are out of it. TB has been sliding last couple weeks and could go either way buyer or seller with deadline fast approaching. In the NL the reds, giants, Phillies, padres, mets, cubs are all out of contention.

Any ideas on a decent 2 month rental. I thought about Zobrist but I wasn't sure how much sense that would make given Ellis is back in time for the post season.

[AC]

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Zobrist, Altuve, Dozier, Drew, Murphy, Barney could all work. Zobrist and Barney are my favorite options.

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[blackninja]

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Zobrist, Altuve, Dozier, Drew, Murphy, Barney could all work. Zobrist and Barney are my favorite options.

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What do you think those packages would look like. Barney something like...

STL gets Barney
CHC get Boone Whiting + another minor piece

Zobrist is killing it hitting .315, 11hr / 38 RBI. With those numbers what type of deal would it take. Barney isn't hitting great only .215 / .248 / .313. I would assume both the Cubs and Rays would want some pitching going back to them.

[AC]

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That's fine for Barney. For Zobrist, one of their good SP prospects or piscotty.

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[hampshirestags]

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AC - I would ask the same question of TOR. What's the motivation to move him? If your competitive, makes little sense. If you're out of it then I think I should concede and have him moved to the Yankees. It's the most logical and I seem to be the only one jumping up and down about it. A. Rodriquez doesn't get to play my game again. Ever.

esexton18 - I don't see anything that jumps out and bites me other than the Phillies have C depth and you've got 2 legit C prospects coming back.

KBlover - J. Marisnick/R. Johnson or grab your glove. It doesn't matter this year, we're building for 2-3 years to make a run.

Side note: would somebody come in here and ask for help for the O's to win? Every franchise I see come through has the O's losing. They are leading the division, you'd think 1 chise has them winning!!

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Around break, Cards 2.5 out of division, 1.5 out of WC.

Mark Ellis is on the 60 day DL, replacement is struggling and prospects are not ready. Ellis was playing well before injury hitting around .260. He could be back around mid of August but looking to get some help for them.

The twins, stros, rangers, red sox, are out of it. TB has been sliding last couple weeks and could go either way buyer or seller with deadline fast approaching. In the NL the reds, giants, Phillies, padres, mets, cubs are all out of contention.

Any ideas on a decent 2 month rental. I thought about Zobrist but I wasn't sure how much sense that would make given Ellis is back in time for the post season.

A lot of those guys above aren't really rentals, but are long-term options.

If you are just looking for a rental and paying rental prices, Barney is fine. Scutaro in SF comes to mind.

AC - I would ask the same question of TOR. What's the motivation to move him? If your competitive, makes little sense. If you're out of it then I think I should concede and have him moved to the Yankees. It's the most logical and I seem to be the only one jumping up and down about it. A. Rodriquez doesn't get to play my game again. Ever.

esexton18 - I don't see anything that jumps out and bites me other than the Phillies have C depth and you've got 2 legit C prospects coming back.

KBlover - J. Marisnick/R. Johnson or grab your glove. It doesn't matter this year, we're building for 2-3 years to make a run.

Side note: would somebody come in here and ask for help for the O's to win? Every franchise I see come through has the O's losing. They are leading the division, you'd think 1 chise has them winning!!

Not that people can't understand what you're saying, but you can also use the multi-quote function to reply to more than 1 post at a time (like I am doing here). If you hover over the buttons in the bottom-right corner of a post, you'll be able to tell which is multi-quote. And to properly do it, you push multi-quote on each post you want to quote, but on the final post you want to quote (out of however many you are responding to), you push the regular quote button instead of the multi-quote and that brings you to where you can write you responses in a post.

[AC]

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AC - I would ask the same question of TOR. What's the motivation to move him? If your competitive, makes little sense. If you're out of it then I think I should concede and have him moved to the Yankees. It's the most logical and I seem to be the only one jumping up and down about it. A. Rodriquez doesn't get to play my game again. Ever.

My motivation is clear up salary and spend it in more efficient/useful ways. Also to destroy any remnants of the Marlins trade.

A-Rod gets to play in my game. So that he can ride the bench and **** the Yankees' payroll.

[hampshirestags]

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A lot of those guys above aren't really rentals, but are long-term options.

If you are just looking for a rental and paying rental prices, Barney is fine. Scutaro in SF comes to mind.



Not that people can't understand what you're saying, but you can also use the multi-quote function to reply to more than 1 post at a time (like I am doing here). If you hover over the buttons in the bottom-right corner of a post, you'll be able to tell which is multi-quote. And to properly do it, you push multi-quote on each post you want to quote, but on the final post you want to quote (out of however many you are responding to), you push the regular quote button instead of the multi-quote and that brings you to where you can write you responses in a post.

You got a personal note, thank you for the tips. I probably should have read the guide on how to post on the board before I jumped in. Btw, is there a guide? If not, you should write one! Thanks again.

My motivation is clear up salary and spend it in more efficient/useful ways. Also to destroy any remnants of the Marlins trade.

A-Rod gets to play in my game. So that he can ride the bench and **** the Yankees' payroll.

I meant A. Rodriguez doesn't get to play baseball again but it seems my bid for commissioner has fallen short so it's not up to me. AA daughter goes to the local high school here, maybe I could put in a good word and get Reyes moved IRL ;-)

[AC]

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I meant A. Rodriguez doesn't get to play baseball again but it seems my bid for commissioner has fallen short so it's not up to me. AA daughter goes to the local high school here, maybe I could put in a good word and get Reyes moved IRL ;-)

I'm sure AA has plenty of ideas as is. Heh.

Honestly, I may do this and then make a deal for Beltre. I'm not trying to sell. Just reallocate salary.

[blackninja]

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AC - I would ask the same question of TOR. What's the motivation to move him? If your competitive, makes little sense. If you're out of it then I think I should concede and have him moved to the Yankees. It's the most logical and I seem to be the only one jumping up and down about it. A. Rodriquez doesn't get to play my game again. Ever.

esexton18 - I don't see anything that jumps out and bites me other than the Phillies have C depth and you've got 2 legit C prospects coming back.

KBlover - J. Marisnick/R. Johnson or grab your glove. It doesn't matter this year, we're building for 2-3 years to make a run.

Side note: would somebody come in here and ask for help for the O's to win? Every franchise I see come through has the O's losing. They are leading the division, you'd think 1 chise has them winning!!

Playing as the O's in my chose we are also in 1st. There's not a ton of moves I could see making. Schoop is hitting pretty terrible but he's been gold glove caliber for me in the field. The staff is the real weak point but Gausmen is a beast in game (I'm also very high on him irl). By Sept Bundy is usually mlb ready and rated in the lower 80s, Tillman has solid stats both in the chose I play and the 1 where I just gm so there isn't a huge need to make a move for pitching. I suppose pssibly look for another lefty for the rotation as Chen is hit or miss in his starts but he isn't so bad I would move any of the arms in the minors (Harvey has been really good in both chises same with Rodriguez being decent developing well. Irl obviously a different story as Bundy had TJ and has been lit up his last couple starts in minors. But I would assume that's why there isn't a ton of questions to make moves to put them over the hump in game.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Don't forget about Cecchini.

Indeed. I did forget to mention him.

So I started a new Phillies franchise not long ago and I've been trying to keep all trades realistic to what has happened this year in MLB.

I'm on July 19th and was going to do the Huston Street trade to the Angels, but the Padres are currently a game up in the AL West and I don't feel like I should trade their closer away when they have a legitimate playoff shot.

How realistic do you guys keep things? I feel like this was a good idea at first, but since the standings don't line up with real life it's kind of tough to do some of the trades that may happen from now to the deadline.

Realistic IRL does not necessarily equate to realistic in your chise. If there's a major deal that happens in real life and it still makes sense in my chise, I will do it. Otherwise I will hold off.

That's the thing. I'd love to deal him to Cincy, but they likely wouldn't take on the money. I'd love to deal him to Philly (actually no I wouldn't their farm sucks) but they're rebuilding and they have Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. I'd love to deal him to Arizona (kinda) but they have Chris Owings and Aaron Hill and Martin Prado AND they're selling.

The Yankees have many more problems, lol. Plus they're losing most of their prospect ammo in this deal.

Right now I'm thinking of a few options.

1. Yankees get Reyes. Jays get Aaron Judge and Arismendy Alcantara. Cubs get Luis Severino. I'd think the Cubs would deal Arismendy for an easy top 50 pitching prospect. Severino is so good. I'm actually a little tempted to keep him. But this fits my needs pretty decently.

2. Oakland gets Reyes+cash??? This is the tricky one. I love Daniel Robertson. A lot. Probably an unhealthy amount. Thing is, I dunno who else the A's would deal besides that and if I'm eating cash I want something good back. Robertson + Olson + Nunez, maybe, but that seems a little underwhelming. No real headliner. Not even a top 100 spect and I'm eating salary.

3. What would sending him to Pittsburgh + *some* cash get me? That's a tricky thing, cause I'm avoiding pitching prospects.

4. As much as I hate doing this, what do you think the Orioles would send? They could put Reyes at 2nd.

5. I'd ask on the Indians but we'd get that guy with 27 accounts in here.

It just seems like no one with a really good prospect needs a MIF.

1. I don't see 1 happening. Not saying Severino is not good, it's just that Arismendy is better and more advanced. Like kmac mentioned above, looks like you are trying to get Arismendy come hell or high water. I'd just suggest going for a 2-team deal and not overcomplicating with 3 teams. It's not impossible to get him with Blue Jays spects, but prospect-prospect trades are less common and you might be holding out on the spects that you would need to give up.

2. If you do the Russell deal, it would be highly unrealistic for the A's to deal Robertson also. He's the reason they felt they could deal Addison. Plus, I would really like an explanation of this "I will eat cash" scenario since I don't see how you can do that without the ability to edit contracts. How you plan to do dat?

3. A pitching prospect or Alen Hanson

4. I don't see this as an option with Machado/Hardy/Schoop

5. Any prospect other than Lindor.

Can I get any value for BJ Upton batting .240/.291/.346?

Not really. He's still overpaid. Something like a low C seems ok.

Still pondering that Sano acquisition for the Marlins.

I've read, and Sano's in-game ratings would agree, that Sano is likely destined for corner outfield so his arm can be a tool while less overall demands than the hot corner defensively.

Of course, I'd want to teach him 3B (train his defense), but, assuming it would be best to put him in LF - would it make sense to trade Yelich (and Heaney, but I can see dealing Heaney, especially in my franchise)?

I don't know... (looking mostly for fairness and overall sense).

As long as you're ok with 100% unrealistic. No chance the Twins trade Sano away for prospects in a realistic sense. You can probably scrape together enough value to make a relatively fair deal. But, it reeks of unrealism imo.

I'm approaching the deadline in my franchise as mentioned, now that I figured out I won't be going along with the real life MLB deadline here's some ideas I'm thinking of for trades. Apologize for the long post I'm about to put but I do value your guys opinions to keep things realistic and fair.

Standings July 20th:

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NL East:
WAS - 62-33
ATL - 52-44 10.5 GB
NYM 47-48 15 GB
PHI 41-55 21.5 GB
MIA 36-59 26 GB

NL Central:
MIL 56-40
STL 48-49 8.5 GB
PIT 46-49 9.5 GB
CIN 46-49 9.5 GB
CHC 38-57 17.5 GB

NL West:
LAD 58-39
ARI 53-43 4.5 GB
SD 52-43 5 GB
COL 31-55 16.5 GB
39-57 18.5 GB

NL Wild Card (only teams with a realistic chance listed):
ARI
SD
ATL .5 GB
STL 5 GB
NYM 5 GB
PIT 6 GB

AL East:
TOR 57-39
BOS 56-39 1 GB
NYY 52-43 4.5 GB
TB 51-46 6.5 GB
BAL 42-53 14.5 GB

AL Central:
DET 47-47
CLE 46-50 2.0 GB
MIN 44-51 3.5 GB
KC 43-52 4.5 GB
CWS 36-61 12.5 GB

AL West:
SEA 55-40
TEX 50-45 5.0 GB
HOU 48-48 7.5 GB
OAK 47-48 8.0 GB
LAA 44-51 11 GB

AL Wild Card:
BOS
NYY
TB 2 GB
TEX 2 GB
HOU 4.5 GB
OAK 5 GB

I've identified clear sellers in the Phillies, Marlins, Cubs, Rockies, Giants Orioles, and White Sox. There are clear buyers like the Dodgers and other big market teams and teams that are in the race but I don't feel comfortable making big moves with like Houston and Minnesota. All trades up until this weekend in real life have been made. Here are my big trade ideas I'd appreciate feedback on:

Phillies and Dodgers:

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Phillies send Cole Hamels and Carlos Ruiz for Julio Urias(A), Joc Pederson(B), and Zach Lee(B).

Hamels is 8-5 with a 2.65 ERA, the Dodgers have a solid rotation but this deal solidifies their rotation for a world series push. Ruiz is being added as AJ Ellis is out 2 months and Tim Fedorowicz is hitting .179 in his absence.

I don't see a Cole Hamels deal coming this year no matter what Philly's record is. I also think that's a slight underpay from LAD.

Phillies and Red Sox

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Phillies send Cliff Lee for Henry Ownes (A) and Blake Swihart (B)

Lee is 6-9 but with a 2.67 ERA. Lester is on the DL for a month and the Sox currently have only 1 pitcher with a sub 4 ERA.

It's conceivable, but I bet most Red Sox fans tell you they would not be interested in dealing both Owens and Swihart short of a G. Stanton package.

Giants and Blue Jays:

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Giants send Pablo Sandoval for Aaron Sanchez(A) and Dalton Pompey(C)

Sanodval is killing the ball in his walk year with a .290 avg, 20 HR, and 64 RBI on a team out of the race. Brett Lowrie is hitting .217 but could move to second base where Ryan Goins is hitting .201 as the starter. If Sanchez is too much for a rental player I could add Norris or Osuna who are both B potential.

Panda means too much to go in a package for an overrated SP with no command and a rising, but now slightly overrated OF, in Pompey. I don't see them trading the Panda until 2-3+ years from now.

Orioles and Tigers:

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Baltimore sends JJ Hardy for Corey Knebel (B)

Hardy is only hitting .248 but he has 16 HR and 40 RBI. Jose Iglesias is hitting .221 with 2 HR's for Detroit.

I don't think a reliever prospect is worth J.J. Hardy, though I like Knebel. Hardy would need quite a bit more to get, even hitting .240 like that.

Orioles and Mariners:

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Orioles send Nelson Cruz for Gabby Guerrero(B) and Patrick Kiviehan(B)

Cruz is hitting .264 with 22 HR and 52 RBI. Endy Chavez is hitting .197 as the starting CF for SEA, but Dustin Ackley will move to CF from LF

This one is interesting. The Ms could use a masher and Cruz is nothing if not that. Surprising that BAL is out of it, but they might want a pitching spect (Hultzen/Paxton/Sanchez) in place of Kivlehan.

Phillies and Yankees:

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Phillies send Jonathan Papelbon for Gary Sanchez(B)

David Robertson has a 5.64 ERA as the closer for the Yanks. Papelbon has a 1.82 ERA with 22 saves for the Phillies.

This one I can actually see happening because the Yankees are one of the 2-3 teams that wouldn't care that much about an overpaid Papelbon. They also usually deal their spects away and undervalue them. Sanchez > Papelbon even though I am very low on Sanchez, but this seems to be a Yankee type of move.

I'm also considering dealing CarGo because the Rockies are in dire straits financial in the OSFM roster with him and Tulo's salary. I would think CarGo more likely to be dealt than Tulo. The Padres could use a top of the rotation starter as well.

There's some smaller deals I'll make on my own, but I would love feedback on these bigger deals from anyone who is willing to read through all that haha. Thanks guys.

One thing I would suggest if you are looking for realism is not dealing everybody just because their teams are out of it. It's not realistic for everyone that's been mentioned in trade rumors to actually get dealt.

I let this trade go, because it seemed fair, and I got a bit of a chuckle out of it. I was trailing the O's 6-0 in the 8th, when they went to their bull pen, Zunino walked (that's an accomplishment in it self!), followed by an Ackley walk, James Jones infield hit, followed by a Brad Miller grand slam, making it 6-4, then Cano hit a double, followed by a Giancarlo Stanton 2 run HR to tie it. I ended up winning 8-7 in 11, thanks to a Brad Miller 2 run double, he had him self quite the game.

Anyways, literally the next day I check proposed trades, and they want to deal an A potential pitching prospect (not Bundy, forgot his name though) to the Rangers for Tanner Scheppers. I let the trade go through because it seemed fair, and kind of desperate, and everyone in their pen has an ERA over 4.5. As for the Rangers, they're hopelessly out of it already.

Is it a fair realistic trade or should I rethink it? I believe that's the first trade I let go through, other than a swap of two C pot players.

An A-POT starter for Tanner Scheppers?? lol, no thank you. That's a horrible trade for the other team. No one trades a prized young A-POT arm for middle relief bullpen help.

What's the Reds' motivation there? It's a lateral move and I already have my own Stephenson in Sanchez.

1. Dodgers have something to say about that. And even then. Reyes SS. Hanley 3B. A-Rod DH.

2. I'd be eating money.

3. @KMac here too. I'd be interested in Bell and Hanson, maybe.

4. Again, I'm eating money.

5. Eh. The Indians' farm isn't all that stellar.

Again, eating money...like, how? I would love to know how to do this if it is possible.