MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[kmoser]

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In the year 2015 would it be realistic for Chris Sale to be moved a week before the deadline with 2 years left on his contract? White Sox are the second worse team in MLB and he's 5.60 ERA/ 1.44 WHIP/ .284 BAA/ 10.04 K/9 / 4.16 K/BB.



Division leaders are Yankees, Tigers, Rangers, Marlins Brewers and Dodgers. Other teams in contention are Jays, Indians, Royals, Angels, Mariners, Astros, Orioles, Mets, Rockies, Braves, Nationals and Cardinals.



I've already done a bunch of trades and wanna see if Sale moving would be alright.

Not really realistic but if you trade him you will get a LOT for him. He's young and very good so I would try to build around him.


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[Gagnon39]

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I'm at the trade deadline now and I've been going through the buyers and adding some pieces from the sellers. I'm working on the Cardinals now and they seem to need an infielder. Moving Carpenter to second base and getting a third baseman looks like the best option for St. Louis or possibly adding shortstop and moving Peralta over to second.

The Texas Rangers are way out of contention and there's two players there that would seem to be a good fit.

Adrian Beltre and Elvis Andrus.

Can anyone think of a realistic situation/trade that would result in Texas dealing them to St. Louis?

Please keep in mind this is not real life, in my franchise St. Louis is contending and needs an infielder while Texas is way out of it at this point.

Another possibility is Aaron Hill from Arizona. The Diamondbacks are definitely sellers at this point.

[epikOH]

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Not really realistic but if you trade him you will get a LOT for him. He's young and very good so I would try to build around him.


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I probably won't do it then. Thanks for the quick response.

[Xcavs31x]

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Not really sure how well Either fits in Seattle. He is another left handed hitting OF. Unless we get him cheap. Kemp would make more sense, but also cost more and with his recent injuries not sure I would want the M's to spend the prospects to get him.

Any thoughts on moving him to Tampa bay? I wouldn't hate like zobriest. My 2nd basemen (Gordon and Guerrero are both hitting .220 and below) feel maybe he could be a missing piece. But at the same time the rays aren't way out of contention but they have him on the block.

[ESexton18]

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Reading back the comments about Yelich, I think this guy could be pretty special in real life. I have him in a deep dynasty league I play in and I love watching this guy hit. I think when he puts it all together he could be a 20/20 sweet swinging LF/CF which makes him a pretty damn good player.

[hampshirestags]

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I'm at the trade deadline now and I've been going through the buyers and adding some pieces from the sellers. I'm working on the Cardinals now and they seem to need an infielder. Moving Carpenter to second base and getting a third baseman looks like the best option for St. Louis or possibly adding shortstop and moving Peralta over to second.

The Texas Rangers are way out of contention and there's two players there that would seem to be a good fit.

Adrian Beltre and Elvis Andrus.

Can anyone think of a realistic situation/trade that would result in Texas dealing them to St. Louis?

Please keep in mind this is not real life, in my franchise St. Louis is contending and needs an infielder while Texas is way out of it at this point.

Another possibility is Aaron Hill from Arizona. The Diamondbacks are definitely sellers at this point.

Hill (cheaper) and Beltre (more expensive but with age and contract value) would both be available. I heard the words "great clubhouse guy" again the other day re: Elvis, I don't think he is going to get moved unless it's a blockbuster type of deal.

You could make it easy on STL by including someone like J. Kelly + pieces so they don't have to give away too much of the farm.

[kmoser]

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Hill (cheaper) and Beltre (more expensive but with age and contract value) would both be available. I heard the words "great clubhouse guy" again the other day re: Elvis, I don't think he is going to get moved unless it's a blockbuster type of deal.



You could make it easy on STL by including someone like J. Kelly + pieces so they don't have to give away too much of the farm.

The Rangers would have a high asking price for Beltre and I see Andrus being in a trade for Price if they go after him.


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[AC]

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Joe Kelly+ is not nearly enough for Adrian Beltre unless that + includes names like Piscotty, Martinez or Miller.

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[Legaci3]

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1. Imo a great fit would be Cervelli for Dee Gordon from the Dodgers. Ellis is down and not even that good and Gordon is surplus.

Is this still a good trade to make? Looking for a 2B in my Yankees franchise and i like Dee Gordon

[NaQuinAggie]

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No way that those 3 guys get traded in a 3 way deal that only involves them.

Ray's are not going to give up a Top-10 prospect and Price and only get that return.

and deal #3 Phillies need at least 1 more prospect for Cole unless his stats really suck in your Franchise

in what universe is a prospect more valueable then a top 5 pitcher in baseball?

[kmoser]

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in what universe is a prospect more valueable then a top 5 pitcher in baseball?

Which part are you talking about?


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[hampshirestags]

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Joe Kelly+ is not nearly enough for Adrian Beltre unless that + includes names like Piscotty, Martinez or Miller.

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Giving option for both Hill and Beltre. Using Kelly eats up good value, is a luxury on STL roster and both ARZ and TEX would trip over themselves trying to get him in a deal for either player.

That way, you don't have to give 3 quality farmhands for grandpa Beltre and his contract.

[AC]

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Giving option for both Hill and Beltre. Using Kelly eats up good value, is a luxury on STL roster and both ARZ and TEX would trip over themselves trying to get him in a deal for either player.

That way, you don't have to give 3 quality farmhands for grandpa Beltre and his contract.

Joe Kelly really isn't all that great though. He just puts up a nice ERA. He doesn't strike out many guys and he doesn't have the control to get away with it. That adds up to a career adjusted xFIP 7% worse than average. Plus, his swinging strike percentage has gotten even lower. He just doesn't miss bats or have the control to get away with it. He could be a piece in a Hill trade if Hill is doing as badly as IRL, but for Beltre? No way. Beltre is far and away worth his contract.

[ESexton18]

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Even with Beltre getting older he's still a top 3rd Baseman. He's killing the ball again this year and provides pretty good defense at the hot corner. I would have a hard time seeing Joe Kelly as the main piece in a deal to get him. He could be thrown in but I gotta agree with AC and say a top prospect or young player would need to be the focal point in acquiring him.

[ESexton18]

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Sorry for the double post, just read this article Jim Bowden wrote for ESPN with proposed deals for the Phillies: http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/the-...e/post?id=9903

For those of you without insider:

Spoiler

1. Hamels to the Los Angeles Dodgers in exchange for center fielder Joc Pederson and left-handed pitcher Julio Urias

The Dodgers have been linked to both David Price of the Tampa Bay Rays and Hamels. According to sources, the Dodgers are willing to part with one of their top-tier prospects but not two. But the reality is that with the real chance of the Dodgers winning a World Series either this year or next -- and the benefits that a pitcher of Hamels ilk would provide to that cause -- it’s hard to envision the Dodgers letting a teenager stand in the way of a deal.

In return, the Phillies will get their long-term solution in center field with Pederson. Pederson profiles out to a 25-homer, 25-steals type of player who has the potential of joining the 30/30 club, especially if he plays half of his games at Citizens Bank Park. He has a lifetime .305/.404/.515 slash line in five minor league seasons and is major league ready. Urias has a chance to be a top-of-the-rotation starter, and he should be ready for the big leagues by September 2015. This deal would be a game-changer for the Phillies' future and a possible legacy-changer for Amaro in the long term.

2. Lee to the New York Yankees in exchange for outfielder Aaron Judge and right-handed starter Luis Severino

The Yankees might be the only team willing to absorb most of Lee’s contract and take the risk of his elbow. The Phillies would get a legitimate impact bat in Judge, who would hit in the middle of their lineup by 2016 and provide an impact with both on-base percentage and power. Severino would give them a powerful arm for either the back of their rotation or in their bullpen.

3. Utley to the Oakland Athletics in exchange for third baseman Renato Nunez and second baseman Chad Pinder

Utley deserves the opportunity to play in another World Series, and it’s not going to happen in Philadelphia. He needs to keep an open mind and accept a deal to Oakland if given an opportunity. I know he'd prefer to stay in Philadelphia and finish his career there, but it really doesn't make sense for him or the Phillies.

The A’s have only one glaring area to upgrade, and that’s second base. Utley would be the final piece to give Billy Beane his first legitimate shot at a title. In return, the Phillies pick up a legitimate bat and power prospect in Nunez, who I just saw at the Futures Game in Minnesota. His bat is legit. His defense is not. But with hard work, he can become adequate. The question will be where to play him. Nunez has a chance to impact the Phillies' lineup in time.

Pinder is a real sleeper second baseman, and although he’s a few years away, he profiles out to an above-average overall player.

4. Right-hander A.J. Burnett and Papelbon to the Baltimore Orioles in exchange for right-handed pitcher Hunter Harvey, left-handed pitcher Tim Berry and right-handed hurler Parker Bridwell

This deal would make the Orioles the favorites to win the AL East (if they’re not already). It would allow them to move Zach Britton to the setup role, where he can pitch multiple innings, and add a veteran starter in Burnett, who would give them added stability in the rotation.

The Phillies would get a legitimate future starter in Harvey, just 19 years old, who profiles out to be a No. 2 type of starting pitcher with the potential of 15 wins, an ERA under three and a WHIP near 1.00. Berry, 23, is 4-5 this year with a 3.89 ERA and 1.298 WHIP at Bowie of the Eastern League (Double-A), while Bridwell is 4-7 with a 4.27 ERA in 18 starts at Frederick of the Carolina League (high A), with 94 strikeouts in 99 innings, yielding 88 hits.

5. Right fielder Marlon Byrd to the Seattle Mariners in exchange for outfielder Gabby Guerrero

The Mariners have to improve their offense, and Byrd would do just that. The Phillies might have to be willing to pay half of Byrd’s vesting option, but it would be worth it if they can get Guerrero back. Guerrero doesn’t come with the top-prospect hype, but he’s a real sleeper. He looks like a clone of his uncle Vladimir Guerrero in almost every aspect. He walks like him, talks like him and even swings at bad pitches like him.

The physical talent is there, the blood lines are there and this would be a solid deal for both sides. Guerrero is not expected to be the same type of player as Vladimir, but even if he ends up just north of Byrd’s talent level, then the deal is worth it just to get younger and cheaper.

6. Rollins to the Detroit Tigers in exchange for right-handed reliever Corey Knebel and middle infielder Hernan Perez

The Tigers seem happy with the play of rookie shortstop Eugenio Suarez, both offensively and defensively. However, Rollins' leadership, high energy and postseason success would fit nicely down the stretch and in the postseason. Knebel has a good arm and should be a solid setup reliever in time.

The Phillies know that J.P. Crawford, their top shortstop prospect, isn’t ready yet. But stockpiling young players and reducing future payroll now is far too important in rebuilding a franchise. The Phillies would have to pay a significant amount of Rollins’ remaining contract to make any deal work.

7. Bastardo to the Atlanta Braves in exchange for right-handed pitcher David Hale and infielder/outfielder Edward Salcedo

The Braves want another impact left-handed reliever to bolster their bullpen, and with Bastardo a free agent after next season, the time for the Phillies to move him is now. Hale should develop into a solid starting pitcher in time. Salcedo needs some development with the bat, but he does have 15- to 20-homer power if the bat comes.

That would be awesome if they could pull that off haha... I don't see much of that, if anything, happening though.