MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[k_mac]

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I've look at the spreadsheet quite a bit and I still don't exactly understand these calculations.

And I'm taking into account age and the remainder of the contract.

I added the values of Lee + Burnett + Utley? Don't know where the confusion is from, unless you're confused by the spreadsheet.

A healthy Lee by himself could fetch 2/3 of your proposed deal + a lesser prospect. If you throw in Utley and Burnett it's only going to cost more.

The spreadsheet also takes age/contract into account.

[Totte]

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I've look at the spreadsheet quite a bit and I still don't exactly understand these calculations.

What is it with the spreadsheet values that you don't understand? Let us know and we'll explain it for you.

Did you check the second tab of the spreadsheet that explains a bit more about player values?

[KBLover]

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I'm the Marlins and while I don't want to trade Stanton, he is not hitting for me for whatever reason (and I don't understand it since I'm okay with Ortiz and Napoli and the ratings are similar), but I notice his spreadsheet value is sky high.

Are there any teams that could give his value? What would be some probable targets?

[k_mac]

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I'm the Marlins and while I don't want to trade Stanton, he is not hitting for me for whatever reason (and I don't understand it since I'm okay with Ortiz and Napoli and the ratings are similar), but I notice his spreadsheet value is sky high.

Are there any teams that could give his value? What would be some probable targets?

You could get pretty much any prospect you want for Stanton. If you search the thread, we've talked about multiple times.

Off the top of my head, St. Louis, Boston, Pittsburgh, and Kansas City (maybe) could put up something for Stanton. Teams that could do it, but it doesn't make much sense include Chicago, Houston and Minnesota.

[hampshirestags]

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Realistically, I think the Cubs hold off and trade a guy like Soler for a proven pitcher.

If you wanted to do a prospect swap, I agree that Bundy is too much, so that also puts Gausman out of the equation. The next best thing is Hunter Harvey.

Rodriguez + Wright isn't bad, but I think I'd hold on to Soler if I were making the decision.

Harvey + a throw in, however, I would strongly consider doing

I think the Cubs owe us a deal (you're welcome for Jake A.). Now I have to come off Harvey too? ;-) I think I could add something to an "isn't bad" deal, maybe Norris/Gonzalez innings eaters? Harvey is the feather in the cap for Angelos and Dan D., I'd have to get the moon in return.

[PistoleFoley]

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Does Garcia + Reyes + Grichuk sound like something you could do? I figure with Cruz having great production, the Orioles would need a pretty decent package.

I could swing Garcia + Reyes for sure. Would Bourjos instead of Grichuk be acceptable? Bourjos is hitting .340 for me in split time with Jay.

[k_mac]

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I think the Cubs owe us a deal (you're welcome for Jake A.). Now I have to come off Harvey too? ;-) I think I could add something to an "isn't bad" deal, maybe Norris/Gonzalez innings eaters? Harvey is the feather in the cap for Angelos and Dan D., I'd have to get the moon in return.

Add Parker Birdwell to the Rodriguez + Wright deal and I think that's fine.

The Cubs don't need anybody to eat innings, we've got the guys to do that in AAA. Kyle Hendricks, Wada, Beeler, Rusin, Jokisch, and even Grimm can all start for us. I'd rather give those guys a shot to see what they could do.

IMO Rodriguez is not the low to mid A prospect the game has him rated as. I think Harvey is more of a high B, and I prefer Harvey over Rodriguez.

[CameRoN0407]

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If I'm the Mets what would it take to get Castro from the cubs? Cubs are dead last and moving everyone already.

Syndergaard and a high C/low B

As I mentioned in a previous post, the Dodgers are currently in first place in the National League West. However, they have lost Clayton Kershaw for the remainder of the season with an injury. The Phillies are way out and obvious sellers and I'd like to move either Cliff Lee or Cole Hammels to the Dodgers. What do you guys think about this deal?



Dodgers receive:

LHP Cliff Lee (contract runs through 2015)

RHP A.J. Burnett (contract expires at the end of 2014)

2B Chase Utley (contract runs through 2015)



Phillies Receive:



LHP Julio Urias

3B Corey Seager

LF Joc Pederson

LAD not giving up enough. those three are good for Hamels.

[pimpinpidgeon8]

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Totte's spreadsheet is saved on my favorites so I can find it easily, but after the first year of a franchise, isn't it kind of null and void? What I mean by that is wouldn't the trade value of players change from year to year and the spreadsheet doesn't account for that. If I'm mistaken, someone feel free to correct me.

[Jr.]

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Totte's spreadsheet is saved on my favorites so I can find it easily, but after the first year of a franchise, isn't it kind of null and void? What I mean by that is wouldn't the trade value of players change from year to year and the spreadsheet doesn't account for that. If I'm mistaken, someone feel free to correct me.

They do. You just re-evaluate based on the previous season's production. If a player has a down year, lessen their value a bit, and vice versa.

I posted a situation with Castro and Rizzo in my Cubs franchise a bit ago. In 2017 and they're both in the middle of consecutive subpar seasons.

Still looking for some feedback on that, btw

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Ok, so the Yankees need pitchers. Would the Twins trade Kevin Corriea? and if so for who?

Bag of balls.

I could swing Garcia + Reyes for sure. Would Bourjos instead of Grichuk be acceptable? Bourjos is hitting .340 for me in split time with Jay.

That would work. BAL could move Adam Jones to a corner spot or make Bourjos the best defensive LF in the game.

Totte's spreadsheet is saved on my favorites so I can find it easily, but after the first year of a franchise, isn't it kind of null and void? What I mean by that is wouldn't the trade value of players change from year to year and the spreadsheet doesn't account for that. If I'm mistaken, someone feel free to correct me.

It depends. If players are doing much different than normal, then that would affect their value. That's why we always quote stats. You can always adjust spreadsheet values as you go deeper into a chise. Most gamers don't even get past 1 season unless they are sim-happy, so the spreadsheet should be fine for most.

[AUcpa]

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Is Giancarlo for Heyward fair? Would the Braves do it if Stanton had a long term deal in place and the Marlins threw in a prospect for good measure?

[moth to a flame]

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Totte's spreadsheet is saved on my favorites so I can find it easily, but after the first year of a franchise, isn't it kind of null and void? What I mean by that is wouldn't the trade value of players change from year to year and the spreadsheet doesn't account for that. If I'm mistaken, someone feel free to correct me.

You could take players and look for comparisons. Like for 2015, take that 2015 player and look for similar OVR and POT for a 2014 and go by that. Just an option.

[KBLover]

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Totte's spreadsheet is saved on my favorites so I can find it easily, but after the first year of a franchise, isn't it kind of null and void? What I mean by that is wouldn't the trade value of players change from year to year and the spreadsheet doesn't account for that. If I'm mistaken, someone feel free to correct me.

I wouldn't say null and void - that's going too far after just a year. I'd say it's pretty much the same second year. Third year, maybe, depending on who it is and how the vagaries of the game play out.

Some guys aren't going to change a whole lot, especially if not giving performance a high weight (since the sim engine and "play engine" are different, you controlling the players will make it different, etc), but even if they are very different (progression/decline, already traded, on a new team with a lesser role, teams rise and fall, etc), I'd use the spreadsheet as a guide, not the final and only say on valuation/realism.

After all, who can definitively say what's "realistic" in 2019, let alone predict what may have happened to guys in 5 MLB:TS seasons? Take the spreadsheet as a valuable data point and go from there based on what's happened in your universe and maybe even real life if you're so inclined (if an 'unrealistic' deal happened in 2015 in real life and you're using this year's sheet on your carry over save, revalue him, etc).

[moth to a flame]

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Is Giancarlo for Heyward fair? Would the Braves do it if Stanton had a long term deal in place and the Marlins threw in a prospect for good measure?

I think Stanton is better than Heyward. They Braves would have to be the ones to sweeten the deal.