MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[WaitTilNextYear]

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As a Cubs fan, I would take any of those 3. How exactly do you handle guys who have vastly different contracts in game vs real life when making a trade? What I mean is in real life Edwin's contract is terrible and getting rid of it would be a plus, but in game he has something like a 2.8M AAV which makes him somewhat of a bargain. Do you just make the trade and pretend his 13M AAV is counting against your budget, or do you have a different way of handling it? Just wondering.

Check out Totte's OSFM roster thread in the PS3 roster section. The last part of that thread is all about how he edits players, then starts a chise, then edits the players back to their original ratings.

The reason is because the game interprets what salary to give the player in franchise mode based on how high the ratings and important the position played is. So, if you are really wanting accurate contracts, check it out although it's a bit of work to do the editing.

[k_mac]

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My rosters are coming out soon too.

Guess what I'm working on

Definitely agree with WTNY, we would have to be getting a pitching prospect back in your Jackson deal. I've been one of the biggest advocates of our stockpiling of SS prospects, but I just can't see us really wanting Lugo. Davis is intriguing, but we'd want pitching.

As a Cubs fan, I would take any of those 3. How exactly do you handle guys who have vastly different contracts in game vs real life when making a trade? What I mean is in real life Edwin's contract is terrible and getting rid of it would be a plus, but in game he has something like a 2.8M AAV which makes him somewhat of a bargain. Do you just make the trade and pretend his 13M AAV is counting against your budget, or do you have a different way of handling it? Just wondering.

I just act like their contract is terrible in game as well. Lol, your imagination is key here.

[KBLover]

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For now, I've decided against dealing Yelich. Been reading about how he's expected to make better use of his body to generate more power as he goes, etc.

Decided I will make that my challenge for him (actually, I've already been training his power because I envision a 90 Contact, 70 Power type hitter...and his contact is already 88 vs RHP...)

So, of course, that means no Sano - and the Twins only like Jose Fernandez for him (which...is not happening). So, c'est la vie.

If you guys have other ideas for good infield prospects, though, I'm all ears lol.

Basically, any pitcher not named Michael Feliz, Tyler Kolek or Jose Ferandez - I'd listen about.

[JBearsL]

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Check out Totte's OSFM roster thread in the PS3 roster section. The last part of that thread is all about how he edits players, then starts a chise, then edits the players back to their original ratings.

The reason is because the game interprets what salary to give the player in franchise mode based on how high the ratings and important the position played is. So, if you are really wanting accurate contracts, check it out although it's a bit of work to do the editing.

Yeah, I saw his thread and that is one of the reasons I asked. I actually edited the Cubs players and posted them for his spreadsheet. I plan on editing the Cubs players (as well as some of the more obvious bad contracts like Howard and ARod), but like you said, it is a lot of work so I doubt I will edit all the teams. Was just wondering some of the workarounds as you get deeper into franchise, because it can obviously create quite a difference in value.

[hampshirestags]

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For now, I've decided against dealing Yelich. Been reading about how he's expected to make better use of his body to generate more power as he goes, etc.

Decided I will make that my challenge for him (actually, I've already been training his power because I envision a 90 Contact, 70 Power type hitter...and his contact is already 88 vs RHP...)

So, of course, that means no Sano - and the Twins only like Jose Fernandez for him (which...is not happening). So, c'est la vie.

If you guys have other ideas for good infield prospects, though, I'm all ears lol.

Basically, any pitcher not named Michael Feliz, Tyler Kolek or Jose Ferandez - I'd listen about.

Boooo. Yelich is replaceable. However, I am pursuing Sano more for personal reasons. I follow D.R. baseball a little and know some of the back story of him and G. Poloanco.

All the Marlins need is 3b if you're not dealing Yelich. Moran should eventually move to 1b. Have you thought about M. Olt (he has to hit eventually). Shop around, you have your pick. Stay on that type of level, even somebody who's natural position isn't 3rd. Or, if the Pirates are out, call about P. Alvarez (expensive) or PHI C. Ashe (cheaper).

[AC]

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I wouldn't be so dismissive of Yelich. Very bright future. Are we now assuming he's realistic?

[k_mac]

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I wouldn't be so dismissive of Yelich. Very bright future. Are we now assuming he's realistic?

I wouldn't view Yelich as a realistic trade piece, but I don't know how Miami fans view him.

Very bright future might be a little bit of a stretch, but I definitely think he has some good things ahead of him.

[hampshirestags]

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I wouldn't be so dismissive of Yelich. Very bright future. Are we now assuming he's realistic?

Agreed. He will be a good player. However, with Sano at 3b, Moran at 1b and Stanton in rf, I don't need my lf/cf to go 290/380/420 (my attempt at projecting him). If marisnick develops to 80% of that, I'm good. If not, replacement value minus whatever Sano brings should allow me to sign somebody that will get close. After that, it's just timely hitting and a little luck which is how most playoff series are won (marlins will have the rotation to match up)

I'm sure you have Yelich's breakdown at your fingertips, if I asked are you saying you'd have a tough time replacing his value?

[AC]

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Agreed. He will be a good player. However, with Sano at 3b, Moran at 1b and Stanton in rf, I don't need my lf/cf to go 290/380/420 (my attempt at projecting him). If marisnick develops to 80% of that, I'm good. If not, replacement value minus whatever Sano brings should allow me to sign somebody that will get close. After that, it's just timely hitting and a little luck which is how most playoff series are won (marlins will have the rotation to match up)

I'm sure you have Yelich's breakdown at your fingertips, if I asked are you saying you'd have a tough time replacing his value?

I'd say .290/.370/.450. That's an incredible player. And I'm not confident in Marisnick to develop into much more than a 4OF. Also, I'd personally have Moran at 3B and Sano at 1B.

I think it'd be difficult to replace a guy like Yelich. Yeah, Sano is a pretty friggin solid guy to replace him with, but he's a high risk guy.

[hampshirestags]

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I'd say .290/.370/.450. That's an incredible player. And I'm not confident in Marisnick to develop into much more than a 4OF. Also, I'd personally have Moran at 3B and Sano at 1B.

I think it'd be difficult to replace a guy like Yelich. Yeah, Sano is a pretty friggin solid guy to replace him with, but he's a high risk guy.

An incredible player with an OPS less than .850? Ok, considering he's young and hits lefty I might be able to buy that. He, along with Heaney and Nicolino buys me a generation impact bat,... done deal every day.

[AC]

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An incredible player with an OPS less than .850? Ok, considering he's young and hits lefty I might be able to buy that. He, along with Heaney and Nicolino buys me a generation impact bat,... done deal every day.

Young, cheap lefties in CF with an .820 OPS are very valuable imo. I don't think Sano is a generation bat. That should be reserved for Harper, Trout, etc.

[CBoller1331]

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Do you guys think this is a good trade:

Cubs: LF Kyle Parker (.200 thru 35 big league AB), LHP Tyler Anderson (2-5, 5.19 in AA)

Rockies: RHP Edwin Jackson (2-4, 3.98), OF Brett Jackson (.306/.390/.586, 11 HR in AAA)

I realize trading edwin is a little unrealistic cause of his big contract, but do you think this is reasonable?

[KBLover]

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I'm sure you have Yelich's breakdown at your fingertips, if I asked are you saying you'd have a tough time replacing his value?

Well, from a ratings perspective, the only other 90/70 player I know off the top of my head is Carlos Gonzalez, so, assuming I could get Yelich there, that would be pretty strong, I'd think.

But, if all the Marlins need is a 3B - could just wait for/use Moran. Then I need to find a 1B (since I've dealt Garrett Jones), which probably won't be hard (actually, there's hardly any 1B prospects listed ).

I'll check out Olt. I like D.J. Patterson. Cecchini isn't too bad...though I'd be working on his raw speed. He could be pretty decent for hitting in Marlins Park. If I branch out to middle infield, N. Franklin and C. Seager seem interesting at first glance. (None of these are listed as unrealistic).

[hampshirestags]

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Well, from a ratings perspective, the only other 90/70 player I know off the top of my head is Carlos Gonzalez, so, assuming I could get Yelich there, that would be pretty strong, I'd think.

But, if all the Marlins need is a 3B - could just wait for/use Moran. Then I need to find a 1B (since I've dealt Garrett Jones), which probably won't be hard (actually, there's hardly any 1B prospects listed ).

I'll check out Olt. I like D.J. Patterson. Cecchini isn't too bad...though I'd be working on his raw speed. He could be pretty decent for hitting in Marlins Park. If I branch out to middle infield, N. Franklin and C. Seager seem interesting at first glance. (None of these are listed as unrealistic).

No GM wants to be the one that dealt away the future of the club. That is a large reason why prospects are rarely dealt for prospects. Hogwash, I say. Prospects are grown to be traded. Find someone you want on the corner and package quality players/prospects for him in return. The % of prospects that bust vs the ones that make the MLB is astronomical. Scout well and trade even better, that will put you in the playoffs.

[AC]

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Do you guys think this is a good trade:

Cubs: LF Kyle Parker (.200 thru 35 big league AB), LHP Tyler Anderson (2-5, 5.19 in AA)

Rockies: RHP Edwin Jackson (2-4, 3.98), OF Brett Jackson (.306/.390/.586, 11 HR in AAA)

I realize trading edwin is a little unrealistic cause of his big contract, but do you think this is reasonable?

for one of them, sure. not both.

The % of prospects that make MLB versus the ones that bust is astronomical.

I think you have it backwards, unless you mean more prospects make the MLB than bust.