MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Totte]

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OK. I Won't do that one. What kind of packages could I get for Stanton?

Look at the spreadsheet in the first post. Taijuan will be involved, same with Zunino.

Also, if you do a search for Stanton in this thread, you'll find several drawn up ready to go trade scenarios for him

[Deuce2223]

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Hey guys. Have been thinking over the deal where I give Rasmus to the Ms for Saunders, Maurer, Medina. I played a couple games while I thought and now Saunders is on the DL. After looking at stats Saunders (rated 79) was batting .282 with 7 HR and 39 RBI and batting everyday for the Ms so maybe he would be better off staying put. Jones however has been back and forth AAA all year and has batted .216 with 3 steals and barely anything else.

I signed Soriano at the beginning of the year to mainly bat LHP but the last month he has been great against both right and left and is batting .270 with 12 homers and 27 RBI in a platoon+ situation so I wouldn't mind getting him more time.

I was thinking about sending Rasmus for Jones, Maurer and Medina is that fair?

Also my rotation consists now of Stroman, Morrow, Maholm (traded), Marcum (signed) and sighhhh Ricky Romero. My DL now consists of dickey, buehrle, hutch, Sanchez and happ.

I know for a fact I want Medina and Maurer, but maybe I could get a third team involved where I could get another starter or a 2B/SS (backup type). Lawrie has been playing 2nd and he and Reyes are on the DL for another 20 days and I'm rocking Izturis and Barney (trade) ATM. Iz has been good but Barney has batted .213 with no other numbers and goins/kawa have been pitiful in AAA so maybe I could snag a backup MIF in this deal.

Any suggestions?

I have to be completely honest but just looking at stats, I just don't see what Rasmus has to offer. He is a career .246 hitter and his 20 HR avg would likely be 15 at Safeco and he doesn't steal bases. Again I assume he must play pretty good D, but I think Saunders/Jones in CF give that as well and they wouldn't have to give up 2 hard throwing bullpen arms.

That to me says he is basically a older version of Saunders, so I can't see why the M's would want to trade 3 players for a guy making 7 million on a 1 year deal.

[AC]

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"and his 20 HR avg would likely be 15 at Safeco"

wRC+ adjusts for that

[Deuce2223]

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OK. I Won't do that one. What kind of packages could I get for Stanton?

Stanton to the M's trade would only happen if you just want fair and not realism.

The M's have discussed Stanton in the past, but they are not willing to give up Walker or Zunino to get it done. I am not saying you couldn't put together a fair offer and it would obviously take those guy's to get it done, but I just don't see the M' trading away anything from the farm, until a new GM is in place. Point case this season. Jack Z talked alot about making deals but when it came down to it, he traded Franklin who had lost his spot with the Cano signing and with Taylor and Miller jumping him in the future SS role, for Jackson and then dealt of injury prone Pryor and a couple of AAA non-Top-20 prospects to San Diego.

However it's your Franchise so you can play it any way you want. Just make up a story that the M's did finally get a new GM and he has no problem trading away the farm and future for 1 bat.

[Totte]

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Hey guys. Have been thinking over the deal where I give Rasmus to the Ms for Saunders, Maurer, Medina. I played a couple games while I thought and now Saunders is on the DL. After looking at stats Saunders (rated 79) was batting .282 with 7 HR and 39 RBI and batting everyday for the Ms so maybe he would be better off staying put. Jones however has been back and forth AAA all year and has batted .216 with 3 steals and barely anything else.

I signed Soriano at the beginning of the year to mainly bat LHP but the last month he has been great against both right and left and is batting .270 with 12 homers and 27 RBI in a platoon+ situation so I wouldn't mind getting him more time.

I was thinking about sending Rasmus for Jones, Maurer and Medina is that fair?

Also my rotation consists now of Stroman, Morrow, Maholm (traded), Marcum (signed) and sighhhh Ricky Romero. My DL now consists of dickey, buehrle, hutch, Sanchez and happ.

I know for a fact I want Medina and Maurer, but maybe I could get a third team involved where I could get another starter or a 2B/SS (backup type). Lawrie has been playing 2nd and he and Reyes are on the DL for another 20 days and I'm rocking Izturis and Barney (trade) ATM. Iz has been good but Barney has batted .213 with no other numbers and goins/kawa have been pitiful in AAA so maybe I could snag a backup MIF in this deal.

Any suggestions?

Jones/Maurer/Medina for Rasmus is fair on paper. One could argue that you'd want more pop in return (Saunders) than Jones as he's a similar type of player to what you already have in Gose. Agree that Saunders might be better off staying in Seattle though with those numbers he put up so far.

Is Nick Franklin still with the M's? He'd be a nice target to acquire in a larger deal

[Deuce2223]

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"and his 20 HR avg would likely be 15 at Safeco"

wRC+ adjusts for that

Okay but I still am having a hard time seeing how he is that much better then a healthy Saunders and one thing Saunders does much better then Rasmus is stealing (21 SB's in 12 again when healthy) and speed is something the M's need not another OF that will bat .240 with 15 HR's we have enough of those.

I also find it interesting that every Blue Jay Franchise I see or read about has the player running it wanting to get rid of Rasmus. Obviously they don't want him either, so I really struggle why the M's would want to give up 3 guy's for him.

[Deuce2223]

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"and his 20 HR avg would likely be 15 at Safeco"

wRC+ adjusts for that

I will be the first to say I don't totally understand advance hitting stats like WRC+ but just looking up the #'s from 2009 to 2014, Rasmus WRC+ is a 94 and Saunders is a 90

So I guess again I need help seening how 4 points higher is really worth 2 bullpen arms especially Maurer who has been clocked over 100 mph and has really started to excel out of the bullpen since moving from the rotation.

[Totte]

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...bullpen arms especially Maurer who has been clocked over 100 mph and has really started to excel out of the bullpen since moving from the rotation.

Sorry for being a bit off track here but as you follow the M's: Is moving Maurer to the pen a permanent move for 2014 and beyond? Have they given up on the idea of having him in the rotation given how well he's pitched from the pen?

[AC]

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I will be the first to say I don't totally understand advance hitting stats like WRC+ but just looking up the #'s from 2009 to 2014, Rasmus WRC+ is a 94 and Saunders is a 90

So I guess again I need help seening how 4 points higher is really worth 2 bullpen arms especially Maurer who has been clocked over 100 mph and has really started to excel out of the bullpen since moving from the rotation.

i'll bite my tongue a bit here but I'll at least say there's literally no point in moving Saunders for Rasmus for either team

[Deuce2223]

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Sorry for being a bit off track here but as you follow the M's: Is moving Maurer to the pen a permanent move for 2014 and beyond? Have they given up on the idea of having him in the rotation given how well he's pitched from the pen?

With as well as he has pitched so far in the pen and as horrible as he has been as a starter, it appears to be a permanent move. The M's have alot of depth at SP especially with Elias coming out of no where and pitching decent as the #5 for part of the season.

In 18 IP as a RP, Maurer has posted a ERA of 0.50. However being how several guys are advance stats here are those #'s as well. 1.36 FIP, and 2.48 xFIP. His SIERA, using batted ball results, is a mere 2.01. He's only walking 2 batters per nine innings, and he's striking out 11 batters per nine innings.

His fastball is averaging 96 and his slider is hitting 90 which are the 2 pitches he pretty much sticks with now. He use to throw a sinker and a curve and will occasionally still throw the curve.

He does tend to have some mental breakdowns in high pressure situations so I doubt they will ever make him the CP, but he should be a pretty solid 7/8 IP guy who could maybe get some spot saves here and there.

[BlueJays09]

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Jones/Maurer/Medina for Rasmus is fair on paper. One could argue that you'd want more pop in return (Saunders) than Jones as he's a similar type of player to what you already have in Gose. Agree that Saunders might be better off staying in Seattle though with those numbers he put up so far.

Is Nick Franklin still with the M's? He'd be a nice target to acquire in a larger deal

I have to be completely honest but just looking at stats, I just don't see what Rasmus has to offer. He is a career .246 hitter and his 20 HR avg would likely be 15 at Safeco and he doesn't steal bases. Again I assume he must play pretty good D, but I think Saunders/Jones in CF give that as well and they wouldn't have to give up 2 hard throwing bullpen arms.



That to me says he is basically a older version of Saunders, so I can't see why the M's would want to trade 3 players for a guy making 7 million on a 1 year deal.

Thanks for the input guys. Okay so help me fill in the blanks, and yes franklin is with the Ms in AAA batting .269.

Rasmus+______ for franklin, medina, Maurer.

[Totte]

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Thanks for the input guys. Okay so help me fill in the blanks, and yes franklin is with the Ms in AAA batting .269.

Rasmus+______ for franklin, medina, Maurer.

Sergio Santos as the blank? Opens up a spot in your pen for Medina and you get out of his contract that runs for 14/15?

I suggest a bullpen arm coming back to Seattle to provide some depth now that Medina/Maurer leaves. Anyone comes to kind for you?

[BlueJays09]

MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Well just lost marcum as well which I figured was soon. My rotation is a mess so I wouldn't mind giving bullpen arms. Was about to trade loup for a starter as well. I could add santos he hasn't been with my team but has put up 3.60 era and 2.30 whip in AAA. I could move santos, loup, Wagner, and maybe Delabar/Redmond from my bullpen. Maybe I'll do santos and Rasmus for the 3 and then trade loup for a fringe starter.

[Totte]

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Well just lost marcum as well which I figured was soon. My rotation is a mess so I wouldn't mind giving bullpen arms. Was about to trade loup for a starter as well. I could add santos he hasn't been with my team but has put up 3.60 era and 2.30 whip in AAA. I could move santos, loup, Wagner, and maybe Delabar/Redmond from my bullpen. Maybe I'll do santos and Rasmus for the 3 and then trade loup for a fringe starter.

Sounds like a plan to me. Atlanta has pitching depth and I'm sure they wouldn't mind Loup in their pen

[AUcpa]

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Is there an updated value spreadsheet in the thread? Just curious because some of the "franchise cornerstones" etc were actually dealt...i.e. Allen Craig.