MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Deuce2223]

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If you're looking for realism, the Cards would likely be shopping one of Craig/ Holliday like you're thinking, but I'm not so sure it wouldn't be Holliday who would go instead since he's in the platoon and has a bigger contract. Either way, they're both playing relatively well, and I would imagine other competing teams could beat your offer, but for arguments sake lets say they can't.

Outfield is also a position of great depth for the Cardinals, they still should have Stephen Piscotty who is seen as Holliday's replacement in the organizaiton, and Randal Grichuk has already seen the majors this year.

Instead of Wilson, I imagine the asking price would start with Peterson, but you probably don't want to do that, so maybe this works better?

Cards Get:
Brad Miller (organizational depth/ future replacement of Peralta)+ Smith+ some C first baseman so the Cards might not have to get Lind from AC if Adams gets hurt

Mariners get: not broken Allen Craig

(side note, if you do this, put Holliday in left and Taveras in right. To my knowledge, Holliday has never played right field in the majors.

Don't plan on giving up Peterson at least not yet.

I am okay with Holliday over Craig, I just put down Craig because the Cards dealt him in real life.

I didn't really think about SS because of Peralta but I would be okay with Miller going, He did hit 14 HR's and drive in 64 last season for me playing as my everyday SS, but Taylor is hitting .300 in 60 AB's this season in a backup role, so I feel okay about making him my everyday SS.

As far as 1B goes I have Ji-Man Cho who is a 70/C who hit well in AAA last season and is doing okay (.266/.341/.481, with 4 HR 14 RBI in 79 AB's) so far this year, who I could deal now that I signed Mike Carp out of F.A. to be my main 1B at AAA as insurance for DJ Peterson who I have playing 1B at the MLB level.

[Deuce2223]

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If anyone else has a thought on my M's trade back on on Page 651 with the Cards I would love to more feedback.


Also am curious in Mid-May what Matt Wieters would cost. He is hitting .291 with 8 HR and 29 RB so far in 117 AB's this season. Last season he hit .246 with 27 HR and 79 RBI so pretty similar #'s to 2013

So assuming the spreadsheet says High B and Mid B.

Would J. Paxton (77/B) currently 6-1 with a 0.68 ERA in 8 starts, 10-10 with 3.83 ERA last season along with either A. Wilson (70/B) hitting .326 with 6 HR and 23 RBI in AAA get it done?

Baltimore currently has N. Hundley as the backup with Caleb Jospeh in AAA, but to get the deal done I would be willing to include either J. Hicks or T. Marlette (both rated 68/C). In real life Marlette is the higher rated prospect (#13 on the Top-20) Marlette is hitting .272 in 92 AB's at AAA, Hicks is hitting .321 in 53, or I could also include J. Montero (74/B) hitting just .213 with 4 HR and 11 RBI in 80 AB's at the MLB level.

Figure Montero still play a little backup C for the O's, spell Davis at 1B or just be the DH. In my Franchise the O's currently are using D. Lough as their everyday DH and he is hitting just .183 with 2 HR and 8 RBI in 164 AB's.

[hampshirestags]

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If anyone else has a thought on my M's trade back on on Page 651 with the Cards I would love to more feedback.


Also am curious in Mid-May what Matt Wieters would cost. He is hitting .291 with 8 HR and 29 RB so far in 117 AB's this season. Last season he hit .246 with 27 HR and 79 RBI so pretty similar #'s to 2013

So assuming the spreadsheet says High B and Mid B.

Would J. Paxton (77/B) currently 6-1 with a 0.68 ERA in 8 starts, 10-10 with 3.83 ERA last season along with either A. Wilson (70/B) hitting .326 with 6 HR and 23 RBI in AAA get it done?

Baltimore currently has N. Hundley as the backup with Caleb Jospeh in AAA, but to get the deal done I would be willing to include either J. Hicks or T. Marlette (both rated 68/C). In real life Marlette is the higher rated prospect (#13 on the Top-20) Marlette is hitting .272 in 92 AB's at AAA, Hicks is hitting .321 in 53, or I could also include J. Montero (74/B) hitting just .213 with 4 HR and 11 RBI in 80 AB's at the MLB level.

Figure Montero still play a little backup C for the O's, spell Davis at 1B or just be the DH. In my Franchise the O's currently are using D. Lough as their everyday DH and he is hitting just .183 with 2 HR and 8 RBI in 164 AB's.

I like Paxton + Wilson.

Take it with a grain of salt, I might be 'homering' up on Weiters (though I see little chance of an extension with the O's). I also have a bit of a bro-crush on Paxton.

Marlette is good but with Cisco coming and Olhman in front of him (might be a future 1b though) and Joseph and Hundley... O's are set at C.

Lough wasn't brought over for his bat so I'm not sure why Buck has him at DH but we were losers before he showed up so I trust he knows what he is doing.

[Deuce2223]

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Sorry to bug you guys again, as I don't mean to beg, just bumping this up a bit since it's two pages back and people likely skipped. Don't need a right away, reply, just a little bump up... :P

With all your scandals I am not sure what you are looking for out of Danks. MLB talent in return or rebuild the farm system.

Not sure how good of fit he would be in Colorado, but they do have some nice OF depth with (Dahl,Wheeler,B. Barnes,Blackmon,Stubbs,Dickerson) and in my Franchise in the off-season they make a run at every SP available. If they are truly contending right now in your's it would make sense for them to want to add a SP.

Angels could be a good fit, but what do they have to offer. Their farm system is pretty bare, especially if you are doing any of the real life trades of 2014 they made.

Seems to me that the Padres and Rangers have alot of internal SP's unless you are duplicating real life injuries with the Rangers.

Blue Jays-I will leave that up to AC

Indians- Could be a good fit but again what do you want. Spreadsheet says High C for Danks. With Davidson your future 3B, not sure you would want to block him with someone like Chisenhall and don't what the Tribes rotation currently looks like.

For me I like to see current stats of the said player wanting to trade and where they would fit in with the team they are going too, in order to make a good suggestion.

[Deuce2223]

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I like Paxton + Wilson.

Take it with a grain of salt, I might be 'homering' up on Weiters (though I see little chance of an extension with the O's). I also have a bit of a bro-crush on Paxton.

Marlette is good but with Cisco coming and Olhman in front of him (might be a future 1b though) and Joseph and Hundley... O's are set at C.

Lough wasn't brought over for his bat so I'm not sure why Buck has him at DH but we were losers before he showed up so I trust he knows what he is doing.

I am assuming they have Lough at DH, because Cruz signed with Minnesota in the Off-season, and D. Young is playing LF fulltime. S. Pearce is in AAA playing 1B and is only rated a 60/D now in my Franchise so Lough is the better option at DH I guess.

What do you think the O's would give up for Montero as a DH option allowing Lough to go back to being a backup OF or in this case back to AAA with as bad as he is playing.

I have plenty of depth in the OF so losing Wilson would sting, but I have younger guy's who could replace him, but with all my injuries to my current AAA rotation, I could use someone to plug into the rotation there to replace whoever I call up to replace Paxton in my MLB rotation.

[hampshirestags]

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I am assuming they have Lough at DH, because Cruz signed with Minnesota in the Off-season, and D. Young is playing LF fulltime. S. Pearce is in AAA playing 1B and is only rated a 60/D now in my Franchise so Lough is the better option at DH I guess.

What do you think the O's would give up for Montero as a DH option allowing Lough to go back to being a backup OF or in this case back to AAA with as bad as he is playing.

I have plenty of depth in the OF so losing Wilson would sting, but I have younger guy's who could replace him, but with all my injuries to my current AAA rotation, I could use someone to plug into the rotation there to replace whoever I call up to replace Paxton in my MLB rotation.

Paxton+Wilson+Montero
for
Weiters+E. Rodriguez (in '15 he should be ready for AAA)

And on the STL deal if you decide to go cheaper, Wilson+Smith works for Craig.

[KingFry]

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What are you looking for in return? Just prospects?

With all your scandals I am not sure what you are looking for out of Danks. MLB talent in return or rebuild the farm system.

Not sure how good of fit he would be in Colorado, but they do have some nice OF depth with (Dahl,Wheeler,B. Barnes,Blackmon,Stubbs,Dickerson) and in my Franchise in the off-season they make a run at every SP available. If they are truly contending right now in your's it would make sense for them to want to add a SP.

Angels could be a good fit, but what do they have to offer. Their farm system is pretty bare, especially if you are doing any of the real life trades of 2014 they made.

Seems to me that the Padres and Rangers have alot of internal SP's unless you are duplicating real life injuries with the Rangers.

Blue Jays-I will leave that up to AC

Indians- Could be a good fit but again what do you want. Spreadsheet says High C for Danks. With Davidson your future 3B, not sure you would want to block him with someone like Chisenhall and don't what the Tribes rotation currently looks like.

For me I like to see current stats of the said player wanting to trade and where they would fit in with the team they are going too, in order to make a good suggestion.

Ideally I'm looking for prospects but I'd taken someone who could fit in at the MLB level...

Anyways, I've gotten some trades that could go down thinking I could do Danks for Dahl, who is batting .230 in AA with an even worse .253 OBP.. maybe a change of scenery?

I was also thinking Danks for Rymer Liriano.. by Liriano rose to a low A and is hitting .290 with 11 HRs.

Danks for one of Lindsey (.272) or Cowart (.282) could be a possibility.

EDIT: Didn't do the Lindsey trade IRL since the Padres are competing and Street has been fantastic... didn't see why they would do it in my 'chise.

[Totte]

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Ideally I'm looking for prospects but I'd taken someone who could fit in at the MLB level...

Anyways, I've gotten some trades that could go down thinking I could do Danks for Dahl, who is batting .230 in AA with an even worse .253 OBP.. maybe a change of scenery?

I was also thinking Danks for Rymer Liriano.. by Liriano rose to a low A and is hitting .290 with 11 HRs.

Danks for one of Lindsey (.272) or Cowart (.282) could be a possibility.

EDIT: Didn't do the Lindsey trade IRL since the Padres are competing and Street has been fantastic... didn't see why they would do it in my 'chise.

Dahl, Lindsey or Cowart is fine. Liriano is worth too much if he's progressed like you mentioned

[Deuce2223]

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Ideally I'm looking for prospects but I'd taken someone who could fit in at the MLB level...

Anyways, I've gotten some trades that could go down thinking I could do Danks for Dahl, who is batting .230 in AA with an even worse .253 OBP.. maybe a change of scenery?

I was also thinking Danks for Rymer Liriano.. by Liriano rose to a low A and is hitting .290 with 11 HRs.

Danks for one of Lindsey (.272) or Cowart (.282) could be a possibility.

EDIT: Didn't do the Lindsey trade IRL since the Padres are competing and Street has been fantastic... didn't see why they would do it in my 'chise.

With the MIF depth you have I am not what you do with Lindsey and same with Cowart, unless you plan to DH him with Davidson and Abreu.

I agree with Totte I think Liriano is to much but because of Colorado's OF depth they could step up with Dahl, even though I think they would rather part with Wheeler, Stubbs or even Blackmon first.

[KingFry]

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With the MIF depth you have I am not what you do with Lindsey and same with Cowart, unless you plan to DH him with Davidson and Abreu.

I agree with Totte I think Liriano is to much but because of Colorado's OF depth they could step up with Dahl, even though I think they would rather part with Wheeler, Stubbs or even Blackmon first.

Dahl, Lindsey or Cowart is fine. Liriano is worth too much if he's progressed like you mentioned

Thanks for the help. As Duece said I have a lot of MIF depth. (Davidson, Anderson, Johnson gonna be the IF hopefully in a few years...) so I went with Danks for Dahl. Hopefully Dahl can step it up with a change of scenery.

[Deuce2223]

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Paxton+Wilson+Montero
for
Weiters+E. Rodriguez (in '15 he should be ready for AAA)

And on the STL deal if you decide to go cheaper, Wilson+Smith works for Craig.

I might try and go with both, if I can fit them in the budget. I would just have to rework the Craig deal maybe something like Smith+B. Miller+ Morgan/Guerrero.


Craig could play RF against LHP and DH vs RHP, with Morrison playing vs RHP instead of every day, then Wieters could DH vs LHP with Zunino behind the plate. Then against tougher RHP, Wieters can slide behind the plate giving "Z" the day off.

I am curious though because the Cards still have Craig playing fulltime and Holliday playing in the platoon, do you think I would be better off trading for Holliday. That way the Cards still have insurance for 1B if Adams get hurt in Craig and they could put Piscotty in RF.

Holliday is more expensive but he only has 2 years left on his deal which might work better for me in that Alex Jackson should be ready by then

[hampshirestags]

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I might try and go with both, if I can fit them in the budget. I would just have to rework the Craig deal maybe something like Smith+B. Miller+ Morgan/Guerrero.


Craig could play RF against LHP and DH vs RHP, with Morrison playing vs RHP instead of every day, then Wieters could DH vs LHP with Zunino behind the plate. Then against tougher RHP, Wieters can slide behind the plate giving "Z" the day off.

I am curious though because the Cards still have Craig playing fulltime and Holliday playing in the platoon, do you think I would be better off trading for Holliday. That way the Cards still have insurance for 1B if Adams get hurt in Craig and they could put Piscotty in RF.

Holliday is more expensive but he only has 2 years left on his deal which might work better for me in that Alex Jackson should be ready by then

I think if you looked at their numbers from '11-'13, then looked at the contract value and age, you might not want Holliday. Were their '14 numbers comparable? (Sorry if you posted it earlier)

[Deuce2223]

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I think if you looked at their numbers from '11-'13, then looked at the contract value and age, you might not want Holliday. Were their '14 numbers comparable? (Sorry if you posted it earlier)

Craig's power #'s dropped in 14 (hit 14), Holliday's 14 #'s were .276 with 23 HR 76 RBI

[BGPurples3]

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Hey guys, I am looking to build some power and fill some some areas of need that I will have in the future with my STL Cardinals franchise. I am also looking to rid myself of older OF players as Taveras is a bench player and Piscotty is tearing up AAA ball right now. We are only through mid-May, but I have a few prospects that I am searching through and trying to identify if I have the pieces to pull the trigger...

I am looking to add a young 3B prospect with some pop to his bat:

Joey Gallo (3B) - Texas Rangers (19-10, 3.0GA Seattle)
Maikel Franco (3B) - Philadelphia Phillies (18-11, tied with Nats)

I am also looking for a young defensive minded SS prospect. I have Jhonny Peralta right now, and he is playing very well, but I do not have a long-term solution at SS:

Corey Seager (SS) - LA Dodgers (13-17, 5GB)
Raul Adalberto Mondesi (SS) - KC Royals (17-12, 1.5GB of Indians)

I have a few deals in order, just to see what you guys think of them:

STL sends Jaime Garcia(3-1, 1.80ERA), Rob Kaminsky (high-B pot)
TEX sends Gallo, relief pitcher

(STL gets young hard-hitting 3B and a relief pitcher and Texas gets a #2/#3 pitcher to fall in behind Darvish and they get a good young pitching prospect)

Another trade idea I have is a huge, groundbreaking trade, which doesn't seem that unrealistic (in my opinion) if the standings stay about the same as they are now... a 3-Team Trade:

Cleveland receives Elvis Andrus (from TEX); Ramsey (from STL)

Texas receives Matt Holliday, possible PTBNL

STL receives Francisco Lindor (CLE)

I know that trade isn't perfect, but is it plausible? I understand that Lindor is a very big piece in the CLE farm system, but I believe that Andrus is young enough and good enough to step in that role. He is also a better "now" player because he can step in and play now and help them win now. Texas receives a good OF and may need something else in return and gets to open SS for Profar, and STL can get that SS prospect they will need in future years.

Just trying to get input on my franchise movements. Thanks for any help.

[obrienthejew]

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Hey guys I'm doing a Marlins Franchise and am looking to deal Giancarlo away. Here are some of my ideas, and some of the trades I have already made.


Dodgers Receive:
C Jarrod Saltalamacchia 80 OVR B Potential
RP Octavio Dotel 72 OVR B Potential
Marlins Receive:
3B Corey Seager 65 OVR B Potential
SP Julio Urias 67 OVR B Potential


Indians Receive:
RP Michael Dunn 76 OVR C Potential/A.J. Ramos 79 OVR B Potential
Marlins Receive:
3B Carlos Santana 83 OVR B Potential (This I will only do because Cleveland traded for Pablo Sandoval already and Casey McGehee is not getting it done)


Finally,
Mariners Receive:
OF Giancarlo Stanton 86 OVR A Potential
1B Garrett Jones 72 OVR C Potential
Marlins Receive:
SP Taijuan Walker 81 OVR A Potential
C Mike Zunino 76 OVR B Potential
1B Jesus Montero 76 OVR B Potential


Thanks in Advance