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  • underdog13
    MVP
    • Apr 2012
    • 3222

    #136
    Re: This game feels so scripted at times

    Originally posted by saintjimbo1885
    I seem to remember that in an earlier version of the game you used to be able to switch the CPU comeback on/off.
    Played every show and I don' recall there ever being this option
    PSN: Dalton1985
    Steam: Failure To Communicate

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    • nomo17k
      Permanently Banned
      • Feb 2011
      • 5735

      #137
      Re: This game feels so scripted at times

      Originally posted by P.A.D.
      Giving certain players a boost in ratings in certain situations is exactly that . . . a code to attempt to make games closer.
      There is a difference in that when a game is scripted, situations are forced. That's what a game being scripted means... and rating boost doesn't really force any situation. That may make certain outcomes more likely to happen, but it's still not forced.

      The specific mechanism is no longer in place in the game, anyways.

      But bringing in an inferior reliever is effectively similar to giving hitters a small advantage. It looks all mysterious only because the difference isn't really visible to the gamer.
      The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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      • Padgoi
        Banned
        • Oct 2008
        • 1873

        #138
        Re: This game feels so scripted at times

        Originally posted by nomo17k
        There is a difference in that when a game is scripted, situations are forced. That's what a game being scripted means... and rating boost doesn't really force any situation. That may make certain outcomes more likely to happen, but it's still not forced.

        The specific mechanism is no longer in place in the game, anyways.

        But bringing in an inferior reliever is effectively similar to giving hitters a small advantage. It looks all mysterious only because the difference isn't really visible to the gamer.
        That's my entire argument though (if you did indeed read my previous posts, if not I apologize). I don't think outcomes are scripted. I don't think results are scripted. I think players and situations are affected that boost the potential for an outcome to occur.

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        • kehlis
          Moderator
          • Jul 2008
          • 27738

          #139
          Re: This game feels so scripted at times

          Originally posted by underdog13
          Played every show and I don' recall there ever being this option
          It was a couple years ago.

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          • underdog13
            MVP
            • Apr 2012
            • 3222

            #140
            Re: This game feels so scripted at times

            Originally posted by kehlis
            It was a couple years ago.
            Ahh must not remember it then.
            PSN: Dalton1985
            Steam: Failure To Communicate

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            • MLB14
              Pro
              • May 2014
              • 636

              #141
              Re: This game feels so scripted at times

              Originally posted by P.A.D.
              Everyone has an agenda, my friend. I'm not calling anyone anything. I'm saying everyone on this planet has an agenda of some sort. I don't take anything at face value, especially when someone can and does benefit from it.
              So what exactly is your agenda ?
              Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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              • MLB14
                Pro
                • May 2014
                • 636

                #142
                Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                Originally posted by kehlis
                It was a couple years ago.
                There was no comeback code option in MLB 12 The Show.. or 11.. or 10.. or 9..

                Can someone correct me in case I happened to miss this option in the menus ?
                Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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                • kehlis
                  Moderator
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 27738

                  #143
                  Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                  Originally posted by MLB14
                  There was no comeback code option in MLB 12 The Show.
                  I don't believe I said there was.

                  I just know it was somewhat recently.

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                  • Padgoi
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1873

                    #144
                    Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                    Originally posted by MLB14
                    So what exactly is your agenda ?
                    - To be a great father

                    If you're talking about what's my agenda at OS:

                    - To assist in the betterment of the best baseball game ever created.

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                    • Padgoi
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1873

                      #145
                      Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                      Originally posted by kehlis
                      I don't believe I said there was.

                      I just know it was somewhat recently.
                      It was in MLB The Show '09 and dropped in '10, I believe.

                      Read this - http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/95534...-show/49290395

                      People were questioning the comeback being on when the option was off even back then.

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                      • MLB14
                        Pro
                        • May 2014
                        • 636

                        #146
                        Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                        Originally posted by P.A.D.
                        - To be a great father

                        If you're talking about what's my agenda at OS:

                        - To assist in the betterment of the best baseball game ever created.
                        I'd say the first step in doing that is trusting the people who develop the game.

                        If they say there isn't a comeback script written in the code, then there isn't and like it's been said pages ago in this thread, until someone proves that wrong, the developers' words are official.
                        Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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                        • Heroesandvillains
                          MVP
                          • May 2009
                          • 5974

                          #147
                          Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                          Originally posted by kehlis
                          I don't believe I said there was.

                          I just know it was somewhat recently.
                          I believe it was 09'.

                          Calling it a comeback code option is a stretch though. I think it gave a 3 point ratings boost when the player was up by 3 or more.

                          The option could be toggled off. And even with it on, the ratings boost could easily be overcome with sound strategy.

                          Don't quote me on the year and coding of it. This was a LONG time ago.

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                          • bcruise
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23274

                            #148
                            Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                            Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                            I believe it was 09'.

                            Calling it a comeback code option is a stretch though. I think it gave a 3 point ratings boost when the player was up by 3 or more.

                            The option could be toggled off. And even with it on, the ratings boost could easily be overcome with sound strategy.

                            Don't quote me on the year and coding of it. This was a LONG time ago.
                            Of course, that didn't stop people from claiming the option was broken and always turned on regardless of the setting (I remember that ALL too well...). Probably why they got rid of the option the following year.

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                            • Heroesandvillains
                              MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 5974

                              #149
                              Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                              Originally posted by P.A.D.
                              - To be a great father

                              If you're talking about what's my agenda at OS:

                              - To assist in the betterment of the best baseball game ever created.
                              Though P.A.D. and I disagree on the coding, I'm happy the Mods are leaving this open.

                              We all want the same thing here: For the greatest game in sports gaming history to continue to get better and better.

                              For that I will like your post! Not for the comeback stuff...which....

                              *whispers*

                              ...doesn't exist!

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                              • bcruise
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 23274

                                #150
                                Re: This game feels so scripted at times

                                Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                                Though P.A.D. and I disagree on the coding, I'm happy the Mods are leaving this open.

                                We all want the same thing here: For the greatest game in sports gaming history to continue to get better and better.

                                For that I will like your post! Not for the comeback stuff...which....

                                *whispers*

                                ...doesn't exist!
                                Agree. This is an extreme rarity on OS - a discussion of this topic that has remained mostly civil. I'm pretty sure that's why the mods are letting it go (and even participating in the discussion).

                                Thanks, greens.

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