MLB 15 trade discussion thread

[1andonly]

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Why would the Dodgers, or anyone else for that matter, give up that kind of value for what could amount to a rental? Just doesn't make any sense when they can break open the bank for him for Christmas.

The Reds are in a bit of a Catch-22.

Because if the Dodgers don't want to, someone else will. The Reds don't care if he resigns with whatever team they trade him too. Teams will pay what he's worth, and if your team won't, another team will.

[AussieGiantsFan]

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Just starting my Giants franchise, I want to address the starting pitching. Outside of Bumgarner the pitching is average and old! I'm not sure if Cain will get back to the Cain we need him to be, so he could be on the block.

I'm just wondering what value I'd get in return for Cain and/or Peavy.

I know it seems odd trading a starter for a starter but I want to get a bit younger in the rotation or I'm going to struggle.


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[QuestGAV]

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Ok fellas, I need help. I'm the Dodgers, Ryu and my 4, 5 starters are ice cold right now. I need to find a right handed pitcher to come in and try to turn it around for the bottom of my rotation. Any suggestions? I'm looking at Kris Medlen as a possible target.

Jon Niese if the Mets are out of it and young guys are performing reasonably. They'd probably want a position prospect but it wouldn't need to be Pederson/Seager. Alex Verdugo?

[QuestGAV]

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Just starting my Giants franchise, I want to address the starting pitching. Outside of Bumgarner the pitching is average and old! I'm not sure if Cain will get back to the Cain we need him to be, so he could be on the block.

I'm just wondering what value I'd get in return for Cain and/or Peavy.

I know it seems odd trading a starter for a starter but I want to get a bit younger in the rotation or I'm going to struggle.

Not sure trading old average pitching for young good pitching is really something you can expect. Peavy came pretty cheap to the Giants last year, I don't know that you can expect anything projectable in return for him a year later. Cain has been well below average last two years and has $60M+ tied to him. I could see someone being willing to give him a chance but I have a hard time seeing them giving up real prospects for the right to take that risk.

[AussieGiantsFan]

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Not sure trading old average pitching for young good pitching is really something you can expect. Peavy came pretty cheap to the Giants last year, I don't know that you can expect anything projectable in return for him a year later. Cain has been well below average last two years and has $60M+ tied to him. I could see someone being willing to give him a chance but I have a hard time seeing them giving up real prospects for the right to take that risk.

Thanks for the reply mate.

Well for Peavy I'd just like someone a little younger and cheaper. Doesn't need to be nor do I expect to get a world beater in return.

I would be happy to accept someone a little worse than Cain but I'm not sure what's a fair trade return for him.


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[1andonly]

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Maybe. Depends on how bad a team wants to end up in a situation like Oakland was last year. The fact is Cueto is going to command a mint, which means there are a limited number of teams that can even seriously entertain the notion of signing him. Unless the Cubs inexplicably come calling, or if the Reds really want to bank on another Oakland type situation to arise, meaning a small market/low budget team with Series ambitions and an offer that can beat the Dodgers (Urias and Seager aren't the only top 50 or 100 ranked prospects in the Dodgers system), then hey, more power to 'em. But I reckon the braintrust in L.A. would be just fine sitting back and outbidding everyone for him later on.

Samardzija commanded Russell. I don't see Cueto going without Seager or Urias.

[jb12780]

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I use the Yankees and I wanna unload some of their massive contracts and look towards the youth, but these contracts are just too damn big.

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[chisox100]

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Looking for another SP for the White Sox. What is the value of Bauer of the Indians? I know they wouldn't trade in the same Division I just want fairness maybe Quintana?

[1andonly]

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Because Billy Beane is a nutcase with room to operate with near impunity, who made a bad move in the hopes it would bring a championship. There's a reason why it was, and is, seen as a fairly unprecedented move. There's no other franchise in the league under the same set of circumstances.

Well then do what you want, but it's not very realistic without one of them.

[redsox4evur]

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Because Billy Beane is a nutcase with room to operate with near impunity, who made a bad move in the hopes it would bring a championship. There's a reason why it was, and is, seen as a fairly unprecedented move. There's no other franchise in the league under the same set of circumstances.

But hey, lets go over the facts so we don't have to keep going around in circles. When Oakland got Samardzija, they had the best record in baseball at 55-33. At the time, Russell was a consensus top 5-10 prospect. Keith Law had him ranked 3rd at the time of the trade, which also netted the A's Jason Hammel.

Currently, Law has Seager as the 5th overall prospect in baseball, and Urias as the 9th. Here are the other teams with a top ten prospect: Cubs (Bryant and Russell), Twins (Buxton), Astros (Correa), Indians (Lindor), Phillies (Crawford), Nationals (Golito), and the Red Sox (Swihart). Now, of those seven other teams, how many have a realistic shot of being in a position even remotely similar to the one Oakland found themselves in last year?

If anything, Cincinnati would be the ones who would have to give up something else if they wanted Seager, if we're using the A's/Cubs trade as the template. They'll be lucky to still get Holmes come July.

You can't post the stuff in bold. Because it is ESPN insider content and it's against the TOS to post Insider information. Just figured I would let you know.

And for Cueto it depends on his numbers whether he warrants a top 10 prospect or not. Because he is a rental and teams won't commit a to giving up a top 10 prospect without knowing he will resign with their team. The only reason Beane was willing to move Russell was Samardzija because he had a a year and a half left on his contract.

[mvp05]

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I decided to start with the rockies..
I plan on moving blackmon or cargo any thoughts on which?

Rockies clearly need pitching what ace could i get?
i also want kelvin herrera from royals as my closer

[redsox4evur]

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I decided to start with the rockies..
I plan on moving blackmon or cargo any thoughts on which?

Rockies clearly need pitching what ace could i get?
i also want kelvin herrera from royals as my closer

I would think Cargo and Scott Oberg for Herrera could work. Because closers don't hold that much value and Cargo has injury issues but when healthy is good and could either play in RF and then if they don't resign Gordon, Cargo could move back to LF. And I included Oberg in the trade as a throw in pretty much because you can't trade cash in the game.

I can't think of an ace that Rockies would go out and get an ace. They are not in position to deal off prospects for these guys. You are better off developing Jon Gray or Eddie Butler. The top 2 prospects in their system. And according to MLB's list they are both projected to reach the MLB this season.

[1andonly]

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I just laid out all the reasons why it would be. You're just ignoring them.



Oh I had no idea it was even subscription material. I got it from a simple google search. Whoopsy.

Well you seem pretty set in your ways, so if you like it then do it.

I don't see the Reds unloading him for so little. I think this season if they do it they will get a lot. I honestly don't think he gets traded at all.

[1andonly]

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You can't post the stuff in bold. Because it is ESPN insider content and it's against the TOS to post Insider information. Just figured I would let you know.

And for Cueto it depends on his numbers whether he warrants a top 10 prospect or not. Because he is a rental and teams won't commit a to giving up a top 10 prospect without knowing he will resign with their team. The only reason Beane was willing to move Russell was Samardzija because he had a a year and a half left on his contract.

Teams won't pay for him but the Reds will still ask for it. This is why he probably won't get dealt. Look at Hamels.

Year after year there are players who don't get traded because the team wants more than people will give.

[1andonly]

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I decided to start with the rockies..
I plan on moving blackmon or cargo any thoughts on which?

Rockies clearly need pitching what ace could i get?
i also want kelvin herrera from royals as my closer

I think Cargo will get you more in return. You can trade him for some pretty decent young pitching.

You could always trade Tulo and CarGo to the Mets together. Not very realistic but it can happen.