MLB 15 trade discussion thread

[mvp05]

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for my rockies franchise What do you guys think about

charlie blackmon and michael mckenry for
James paxton and danny farquhar from mariners

or

Cargo and kyle parker for
Alex cobb and brad boxberger from rays

[AC]

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Philly in a landslide. Seriously, it's not even close. Longo has seen 6 & 7 WAR in the last couple of years and Hamels has never seen a 5. And the contract...and a position player vs. a pitcher...

I'm a little worried this type of trade would be considered, why do you think it's fair?

Oh, and a few pages back you suggested a good value for Schoop would be Gordon and a piece from the Royals. I strongly feel that you are way over valuing Schoop and even further under valuing Gordon.

Sums it up perfectly

[mvp05]

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We're talking about the same Evan Longoria who posted career lows in BB%, OBP/SLG/OPS, ISO, wOBA, HR/FB last year, right? There's a legitimate chance he's not going to trend back upward, too. That's very troubling. Whereas Hamels is on a pretty friendly deal considering the production; good for 200+ innings, right around 200 k's, all with an xFIP under 3.50 and a WHIP under 1.20, and worth about 4.5-5 WAR. This is still an elite ace, and Longoria may not be able to justify a top ten ranking at his own position by the end of the season.

Have you seen hamels last 3 games?

[mvp05]

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Just against the Nats on Saturday, and he looked sharp then. The numbers suggest he's not getting help on either side of the ball, which isn't particularly surprising. Longoria's numbers suggest he won't sustain his hot start. The .400 OBP is great and all, but he's still striking out roughly 17% of the time, and he's yet to show any signs that would suggest his decline in BABIP and ISO are simply a fluke.

This is why decisions aren't made based on two weeks of baseball.

Just like hamels isnt getting any help..can you name another hitter on the rays? Longoria has no help around him.
none of the three starts hamels has had show is an "elite ace"... Longoria still an elite player defensively and offensively

[AussieGiantsFan]

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Not for Cleveland. The best P prospect you could get would be Brown (#12 prospect) and he just isnt enough for Peavy.



SF is in a tough spot with their staff but Crick is coming and Beebe is right around the corner. Peavy might have one more run in him?

Thanks mate.

Yeah you're right about being in a tough spot. Not the youngest team that's for sure!

I'll see how Peavy goes, hopefully he can do a job while waiting for the other guys to develop.


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[TheBallGuru]

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As a lifelong Red Sox fan I obviously love some of their players but I don't want to start with them because I feel it's pretty easy of a team to have dominating the league with their budget and current offensive juggernaut of a lineup lol.

As a season ticket holder I follow the team closely so I know Betts, and Bogaerts are untouchable in any realistic trades as they are both 22 and many peg them as future studs especially Bogaerts who has been raved about for years by scouts.

My question is there any team I could start with to send them a solid deal based around an elite veteran pitcher to snag both? Maybe not in realism terms more fairness cause I know the Sox are extremely unlikely to deal either in real life.

Thanks

[Bat]

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Starting a franchise with Atlanta. I know it is unrealistic the Rockies trade Arenado, but I can live with that. I do however want to make it fair or even over pay alittle for the sake of some realism. I am using the O.S. rosters. Thoughts? Thanks!

Atl- (Me)
Shelby Miller 80 B
Matt Wisler 75 overall 21 year old A potential.
and?

Col-
Nolan Arenado

[Bat]

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As a lifelong Red Sox fan I obviously love some of their players but I don't want to start with them because I feel it's pretty easy of a team to have dominating the league with their budget and current offensive juggernaut of a lineup lol.

As a season ticket holder I follow the team closely so I know Betts, and Bogaerts are untouchable in any realistic trades as they are both 22 and many peg them as future studs especially Bogaerts who has been raved about for years by scouts.

My question is there any team I could start with to send them a solid deal based around an elite veteran pitcher to snag both? Maybe not in realism terms more fairness cause I know the Sox are extremely unlikely to deal either in real life.

Thanks

I think Sonny Gray could be an idea. Also, maybe I am just crazy but since the Nationals have so much pitching including Lucas Giolito, Maybe a Strasburg deal could be swung.

Just my two cents.

[TheBallGuru]

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I think Sonny Gray could be an idea. Also, maybe I am just crazy but since the Nationals have so much pitching including Lucas Giolito, Maybe a Strasburg deal could be swung.



Just my two cents.

Appreciate the help I don't care about overpaying to be honest I just want to have those 2 as part of my core but not be the Red Sox cause I find it too easy.

[jb12780]

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Got my first win last night. I play 1, sim 5, and yesterday was the first game I won that I played. Beats the Mets 2-1 on a walkoff double from Brendan Ryan.

[AC]

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We're talking about the same Evan Longoria who posted career lows in BB%, OBP/SLG/OPS, ISO, wOBA, HR/FB last year, right? There's a legitimate chance he's not going to trend back upward, too. That's very troubling. Whereas Hamels is on a pretty friendly deal considering the production; good for 200+ innings, right around 200 k's, all with an xFIP under 3.50 and a WHIP under 1.20, and worth about 4.5-5 WAR. This is still an elite ace, and Longoria may not be able to justify a top ten ranking at his own position by the end of the season.
-EDIT-
Hamels posted a 4.9 WAR in 2011, per Fangraphs. It's being excessively picky to say, "he's never seen 5."

Lol, what? HR/FB isn't a skill. He also posted a near-career low in BABIP. Career low in BABIP, HR/FB, very troubling alright, couldn't be variance at all. His swinging strikes cut down by nearly 4%. He still put up 3.5 WAR in spite of all of that. He's projected for 4.5 fWAR, he's under control until 2022, he's 29, and making $11m.

Hamels is projected for 3.2 fWAR, is 31, making $22.5M, and he's a pitcher. There is no realm in which that's even remotely fair. I have no idea how you can POSSIBLY say that Longoria "might not even be top 10 at his position by the end of the year."

I'll do the value math if I need to but it isn't close. Longoria >>> Hamels.

[djhums]

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In my redsox franchise, I'm thinking of trading Shane Victorino. I'm looking to trade him for a SP/ SP prospect. I was also thinking of trading one of my 4th of 5th SP for an outfield prospect. I have way too many outfields to use. I dont want to make any trade until everything is worked out. Thoughts?

[Bard]

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In my redsox franchise, I'm thinking of trading Shane Victorino. I'm looking to trade him for a SP/ SP prospect. I was also thinking of trading one of my 4th of 5th SP for an outfield prospect. I have way too many outfields to use. I dont want to make any trade until everything is worked out. Thoughts?

I think it is a bit much, but Cam has talked me into the potential Shane for Ryan Cook (OAK) deal. RP, but best thing you can get and Cook is pretty good.

Then which SP do you want to deal off? Be easier that way to get a deal going.

[old dirty mak]

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Are any team open in the league. Would like to join.

[Totte]

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Are any team open in the league. Would like to join.

This thread is used to discuss potential trades in everyone's individual offline franchises.