Bunts are such a glaring problem compared to everything else

[BrianU]

Bunts are ridiculous in this game. It seems worse than last year. Last year I was aware that turning pitchers bunt rating to even 0 made little difference and it was annoying but this year it's a bigger problem. No matter who is bunting it feels like they all place the ball perfectly towards the 3rd base line.

Looking at Nomo's CPU v CPU work you can see all of the improvements they have made to make the engine closer than ever before in terms of MLB stats, but bunts remain a PITA to deal with and watch.

[NiteLordz]

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I just played the braves and Eric Young bunted all four times he was up to bat. Was stupid! Needs to be resolved.

[johntait1]

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That's weird it seems like the CPU rarely bunts in my games. And when I do bunt I pretty much have gotten thrown out every time, even with Billy Hamilton.

[NiteLordz]

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I've had the CPU pull a suicide squeeze two out of my last four games. And at least two bunt attempts in each game thus far. And they've all been perfect bunts.

[beantownbruins]

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I've had the CPU pull a suicide squeeze two out of my last four games. And at least two bunt attempts in each game thus far. And they've all been perfect bunts.

This tends to happen more if you are pounding the strike zone all game. The CPU will try the squeeze more often if they think a stike is coming. If you feel it coming try and throw a ball outside of the zone.

[bcruise]

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This tends to happen more if you are pounding the strike zone all game. The CPU will try the squeeze more often if they think a stike is coming. If you feel it coming try and throw a ball outside of the zone.

This is definitely true, I've caught the CPU out on a couple of squeeze attempts with an intentional ball outside the strike zone (not even a pitchout).

Same for hit and runs, it's much more aggressive on the bases in general this year. Maybe a little too aggressive, but I haven't seen it nearly as bad as others have.

[RoyalKC]

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Cpu rarely bunts on me and when they do its always a correct situation to

[nomo17k]

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I am only tracking sacrifice bunts in CPU vs. CPU games so I cannot back up with stats, but my impression is also that bunting (for base hit as well as in squeeze situations) is attempted a little too often.

[NEOPARADIGM]

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What kind of sample size we talking here, OP? I ask because I got this vibe early on too but now 23 or 24 games into my franchise (and probably 50 or 60 games played overall) I don't really see it as an issue anymore. Lots of bad bunts, and really not all that frequent.

[BrianU]

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My issues isn't as much the frequency but more the success rate. That is the bigger problem IMO. You never see bunts popped up, bunts that roll foul... it's like a bunt attempt is always a perfectly placed one down the 3rd base line automatic no matter who is bunting. Every NL pitcher is like Dee Gordon.

[countryboy]

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My issues isn't as much the frequency but more the success rate. That is the bigger problem IMO. You never see bunts popped up, bunts that roll foul... it's like a bunt attempt is always a perfectly placed one down the 3rd base line automatic no matter who is bunting. Every NL pitcher is like Dee Gordon.

Now this I do agree with. Its WAY too easy to execute a sacrifice bunt, even with terrible bunters.

I can an execute a sacrifice bunt with Mark Reynolds as easily as I can with say Kolton Wong.

[RogueHominid]

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I'm not seeing this in my games, and I've probably played 50 or so by now.

The sacrifice issues is a bigger problem, to me.

[bcruise]

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My issues isn't as much the frequency but more the success rate. That is the bigger problem IMO. You never see bunts popped up, bunts that roll foul... it's like a bunt attempt is always a perfectly placed one down the 3rd base line automatic no matter who is bunting. Every NL pitcher is like Dee Gordon.

Always the absolutes....this is not true, I see missed and popped up bunts. Can prove the popped up one as I just had it happen in a game for the CPU.

Do they happen enough? Probably not. Do they happen period? YES.

[Violinguy]

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In RTTS and in AA ball, I had the other team put down no less than 8 bunts in a game once. I've never seen any team anywhere attempt that many.

In MLB ball (franchise) the cpu team puts down a bunt or two in every game. I don't manually adjust my defense ever, so my first thought was maybe if I brought in the corners it wouldn't happen so much.

But now I see that it is happening to almost everyone. There is a place in the game for bunting, and a squeeze every now and then is cool, but this is really out of hand.

[nomo17k]

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In RTTS and in AA ball, I had the other team put down no less than 8 bunts in a game once. I've never seen any team anywhere attempt that many.

In MLB ball (franchise) the cpu team puts down a bunt or two in every game. I don't manually adjust my defense ever, so my first thought was maybe if I brought in the corners it wouldn't happen so much.

But now I see that it is happening to almost everyone. There is a place in the game for bunting, and a squeeze every now and then is cool, but this is really out of hand.

Likely, whether a hitter bunts/squeezes or not is tied to some attributes (even OVR?). That may be why you see way more bunting down in minors. I also have seen too many bunting at lower levels as well.