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  • geisterhome
    MVP
    • Sep 2011
    • 2101

    #76
    Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

    Originally posted by topside
    As much as I love this game there are tons of small things that have started eating away at me more and more. You've named most of them.

    Knuckleballers throw too many strikes.

    When playing the CPU they don't chase often or swing and miss as much as they should.

    I don't understand the low K ratings for nearly every starting pitcher.

    Too many double plays!

    What's up with the pull player off the bag animation from throws in the outfield? The CPU and myself prolly do it 5 times each a game.

    CPU doesn't attempt pickoffs enough on regular leads. When they're on base they never slide back in when you attempt a pickoff. So basically the cat and mouse of the running game is non existent.

    Come backers, dropped third strikes and pops ups behind the plate need to be cut down drastically.

    The lazy throwing animations this year get annoying fast.

    Pitchers deliveries look so weak. Like they're barely trying to throw the ball hard.

    Bunting lol

    Hits down the line seem to just die out so they never lead to doubles. Probably one of the most exciting things to see in a game.

    Every outfielder seems like the same defensive player out there.

    Whoever does the pitcher ratings and repetoires needs to be fired. In what world are change ups 78 and fastballs 95?

    There's probably more I've missed. Still a beautiful game but some of this stuff is starting to get to me recently. The gameplay human vs CPU is the most important thing to me.

    Sorry for the long rant
    This, this this, all of it! If that is fixed The Show will truly be the only sports game i'll ever play, besides OOTP of course!
    Spending time with Jesus!

    -Glad to be an Operation Sports Member!-

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    • capa
      Banned
      • Jul 2002
      • 5321

      #77
      Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

      PLEASE get rid of the pickoff throw that goes into the stands!

      I have been watching baseball since 1960 and I have never seen this. Maybe it has happened...but in the Show it happens a lot!!

      Just change the animation to a low throw that skips by the 1B...or a wide throw. But no way should it go into the stands.

      C

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      • gminnick99
        Just started!
        • Jun 2014
        • 1

        #78
        Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn'...

        Originally posted by P.A.D.
        I'm quoting from my earlier reply because I edited it and think I worded this more clear.

        Put simply, if I aim low and miss the meter early, the pitch should stray down the middle, allowing for more solid contact. Likewise if I aim low and miss the meter late, the pitch should be in the dirt. And if I aim high or down the middle and miss the meter early, the pitch should go higher than I wanted. At least this way I can blame myself for rallies and walks as opposed to relying on random game pitch placement. Less user control = more reason for users to believe that the game is dictating results. I want to feel like my ability to call and execute pitches is what's winning and losing games. Having the game randomly decide where the pitch goes simply adds fuel to the old "comeback logic" debate. I want to decide where my pitches go based on my feedback so I can blame myself for losses and not computer randomness dictating it's time for the computer to generate a rally.
        Obviously you have never picked up a real baseball in your life. According to your logic, you should only miss high or low when you miss the meter. Do you not think that pitchers accidentally leave one over the plate when they are trying to paint the corner. I am sick and tired of people complaining about this game because it doesn't always go their way and they don't finish 162-0 for a season. NEWS FLASH----This is baseball, anything can happen!!

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        • TonyDanzaFan
          Banned
          • Mar 2012
          • 594

          #79
          Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

          The rubber banding is ridiculous this year. I've played every show game (except last year) and I don't ever remember dealing with it this bad. Obviously come backs in baseball happen, but not like this, every single game. The reason I believe it is rubber banding is because it doesn't happen until after I score, usually the next inning. And it's always around the same amount I just scored. If I score one run, next inning they will. Four runs, they'll score five. It's almost comical the way it cheeses. Shrinking strike zone so that you have to throw a more hittable pitch or else you'll just keep walking them. Then an error or two occurs to get them on base and boom home run. I had the most egregious version of this happen the other night. Tied one one the entire game, in the ninth I score three more runs. Bottom inning their runner hits what should be a double to the gap (on 3-0 btw) this is left field so no way he goes to third because I'll throw him out. I throw to my cutoff man and the camera spazzes out ball rolls in to third horizontally while nobody runs to get it, the runner doesn't stop, as if the whole thing was a setup. Inside the park home run because a throw spazzed out. Wasn't even the kind where you just over throw it, this was like the stuff you see online this year. Next batter hits a homer. Suddenly my lead is almost gone. Then they managed to load the bases. Conveniently once the game was tied again I got them out. This happens way too often and it's frustrating.

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          • jb12780
            Hall of Fame
            • Oct 2008
            • 10665

            #80
            Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

            What's the clutch rating of your late inning guys? Control? H/9? HR/9?

            As for the umpiring, umps miss calls .

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            • thaSLAB
              [Player 1]
              • Feb 2008
              • 4495

              #81
              Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

              Originally posted by TonyDanzaFan
              The rubber banding is ridiculous this year. I've played every show game (except last year) and I don't ever remember dealing with it this bad. Obviously come backs in baseball happen, but not like this, every single game. The reason I believe it is rubber banding is because it doesn't happen until after I score, usually the next inning. And it's always around the same amount I just scored. If I score one run, next inning they will. Four runs, they'll score five. It's almost comical the way it cheeses. Shrinking strike zone so that you have to throw a more hittable pitch or else you'll just keep walking them. Then an error or two occurs to get them on base and boom home run. I had the most egregious version of this happen the other night. Tied one one the entire game, in the ninth I score three more runs. Bottom inning their runner hits what should be a double to the gap (on 3-0 btw) this is left field so no way he goes to third because I'll throw him out. I throw to my cutoff man and the camera spazzes out ball rolls in to third horizontally while nobody runs to get it, the runner doesn't stop, as if the whole thing was a setup. Inside the park home run because a throw spazzed out. Wasn't even the kind where you just over throw it, this was like the stuff you see online this year. Next batter hits a homer. Suddenly my lead is almost gone. Then they managed to load the bases. Conveniently once the game was tied again I got them out. This happens way too often and it's frustrating.
              Take any given day, and look at the box scores for real life MLB games, and I guarantee you'll see that trend 3-4 times out of the 15 or so games. Use today's games, since none have been played yet, and see what it yields at the end of the day.

              Look no further than the Pirates at Cubs box score from last night, to illustrate how teams score in bunches, after the opponent scores, late in games, and on fluke plays.

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              • TonyDanzaFan
                Banned
                • Mar 2012
                • 594

                #82
                Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

                Originally posted by jb12780
                What's the clutch rating of your late inning guys? Control? H/9? HR/9?

                As for the umpiring, umps miss calls .

                Sent from my LG-LS980 using Tapatalk
                Yes, I know umps miss calls, I know how baseball works. This is deliberately calling strikes, in the zone, balls to facilitate a come back.

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                • MLB14
                  Pro
                  • May 2014
                  • 636

                  #83
                  Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

                  To all the people claiming there's "rubber banding" AI code. It's called a comeback and it happens.
                  Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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                  • Padgoi
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1873

                    #84
                    Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

                    Originally posted by MLB14
                    To all the people claiming there's "rubber banding" AI code. It's called a comeback and it happens.

                    Not every game.

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                    • Padgoi
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1873

                      #85
                      Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn'...

                      Originally posted by gminnick99
                      Obviously you have never picked up a real baseball in your life. According to your logic, you should only miss high or low when you miss the meter. Do you not think that pitchers accidentally leave one over the plate when they are trying to paint the corner. I am sick and tired of people complaining about this game because it doesn't always go their way and they don't finish 162-0 for a season. NEWS FLASH----This is baseball, anything can happen!!

                      I played baseball for 16 years. But a valiant effort at belittling my judgment nonetheless.

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                      • MLB14
                        Pro
                        • May 2014
                        • 636

                        #86
                        Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

                        Originally posted by P.A.D.
                        Not every game.
                        Are you actually claiming the AI comes back every game?
                        Do it. (Release The Show for PC)

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52732

                          #87
                          Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

                          Originally posted by P.A.D.
                          Not every game.
                          There are not comebacks in every game in MLB The Show either.
                          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                          Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                          • PsychoBulk
                            Hoping for change...
                            • May 2006
                            • 4191

                            #88
                            Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            There are not comebacks in every game in MLB The Show either.
                            Not even close to it.

                            The paranoia of some people never ceases to amaze.

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                            • ARMORALLL
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 413

                              #89
                              Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

                              Do those singles still happen where the ball passes right beside the infielder but he makes a pathetic effort to get the ball by flapping his arm? Those were an eye sore.

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                              • Padgoi
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1873

                                #90
                                Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

                                Originally posted by PsychoBulk
                                Not even close to it.



                                The paranoia of some people never ceases to amaze.

                                Perhaps we can keep this constructive instead of allowing every single topic like this to go the exact same direction they all have gone in the past. Constructive answers lead to constructive topics. Insults don't.

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