The poor animation system really holds this game back from being great!

[Factzzz]

Re: The poor animation system really holds this game back from being great!

Great videos, they really capture a few of the issues with the game. I don't care if you have Madison Bumgarner playing in right field, if he's under the ball, he's going to catch it 99.9% of the time. If you want to show a disparity in fielder ratings, then maybe the outfielders can be slower getting to the ball or not make clean pick-ups on grounders in the outfield, but dropping routine fly balls to attempt to simulate realism is actually ANTI-realism and not simulation at all.

Exactly, and this was Ryan Braun in RF, not some slouch.

[mrsaito]

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After one of the patches all of the sudden my outfielders couldn't hang onto the ball, they were beyond 'shaky'. I knocked the outfield error slider down a couple of clicks and things became balanced.

I think this year's outfield fielding for fly balls is much improved, prior to this year it was too easy. As long as you got to a ball catching it was automatic. Now it feels just right to me, it's not too sloppy but you have to pay attention.

The plays near the fences are another matter, I agree with folks who say that you can't throw the ball back in as quickly as you should be able to.

[GSW]

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I hope they don't go back to the way it was last year. I don't see anything near what some have claimed about an abundance of dropped/missed fly balls with outfielders. If you take the proper angle and get settled, the chances of you missing the fly ball are slim at best.

And the passed balls or wild pitches? Again, its something that I just don't see an abundance of. I haven't seen anything that would raise flags or cause worrisome. Half the curveballs with people on base being a wild pitch? You see that many?

I've played at least 400+ games easily (every pitch, every inning, every out) and I can say that in all those games, there isn't a single animation, missed fly balls, missed ground balls, wild pitches, or anything out of the ordinary that I would say is a concern that I hope is addressed next year.

I agree with this 100%

Taking a proper route to a fly ball is important, in a lot of cases it isnt in your best interest to try and rush over the to the spot and "wait" for the ball to drop into your glove.

You can just feather the stick and it will trigger a catch animation.

I actually like the system.

[countryboy]

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Great videos, they really capture a few of the issues with the game. I don't care if you have Madison Bumgarner playing in right field, if he's under the ball, he's going to catch it 99.9% of the time. If you want to show a disparity in fielder ratings, then maybe the outfielders can be slower getting to the ball or not make clean pick-ups on grounders in the outfield, but dropping routine fly balls to attempt to simulate realism is actually ANTI-realism and not simulation at all.

Question are you playing online or offline.

Its been noted that online has poor fielding this year. I don't play online so I wouldn't know.

[Padgoi]

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Question are you playing online or offline.



Its been noted that online has poor fielding this year. I don't play online so I wouldn't know.

I play offline exclusively.


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[countryboy]

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I play offline exclusively.


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OK

Just curious

[KBLover]

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I had to look up my fielder stats after reading this thread.

My OF'ers have made hardly any errors. I have Outfield Errors slider on 7 - still a low amount.

If anything, I see too many GREAT plays being made and guys with too much range (or maybe the trajectories on flyballs are too poor).

Most of the animations I don't like are on the infield - the line drive one that was mention (where the guy either ducks or just hits his glove instead of catching the liner that he could have). Of course, if they did catch those, the BABIP on line drives would be even worse...and it doesn't need to get worse...

Outfield, I actually like outfielder play for the most part this year.

I don't think the system overall is poor, so I disagree with the title. I agree there's issues that need to be addressed, but that doesn't automatically mean poor.

Something can be good or even average but still have room for improvement.

I also have to say I don't see curves/pitches in the dirt being WP 50% of the time. I play on Classic so it's not like I have control via the meter or anything.

[Bullit]

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I personally dont see a problem with any of these errors. I like that they are in the game and that they happen. For me it makes the game so much better and realistic. I really like the fact that you have to pay attention, make a good approach on the ball, shift you defense and even with everything right where it is supposed to be the baseball gods just say "Nope not this time"


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[Padgoi]

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Here's another one that happened today. Fly ball to left. Animation kicks in and Gardner drops it. But it doesn't end there. It's followed up by the runner being out at third by 5 feet easily but called safe. I guess this one can be explained too.

https://vimeo.com/137662641

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[thaSLAB]

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I agree with this 100%

Taking a proper route to a fly ball is important, in a lot of cases it isnt in your best interest to try and rush over the to the spot and "wait" for the ball to drop into your glove.

You can just feather the stick and it will trigger a catch animation.

I actually like the system.

I was just coming to post this piece of advice. Makes a world of difference. I'd suggest anyone having issues, try this. I guarantee you'll see a difference.

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[Jr.]

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I personally dont see a problem with any of these errors. I like that they are in the game and that they happen. For me it makes the game so much better and realistic. I really like the fact that you have to pay attention, make a good approach on the ball, shift you defense and even with everything right where it is supposed to be the baseball gods just say "Nope not this time"

I agree that they should be in the game. I just wish the errors/misplays looked better and more realistic. I would love to see OF lose the ball in the sun and have animations play it out. I would love to see miscommunication between players on defense and a ball drop in between them. Unfortunately, those things aren't in the game, and I would venture to guess they probably never will be.

[Steven78]

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^ The outfield play online is not very good this year. Errors on dropped average flyballs is through the roof.

I play 99% online and just am not seeing this.

[decga]

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I love this game. This product. Its my baseball fix.... I play franchise. Eric Young has 6 errors mostly because hits his glove and he doesn't catch the ball. It has lead to many unearned runs for my pitching staff. His fielding rating is probably not great I take. On the other hand Jason Heyward's fielding rating is pretty darn good. I had a ball hit him on the head in RF. It knock him out the game and out for 2-3 weeks. I do wish some of these balls that hit the pitcher directly would result in some injuries from time to time.

Now I do think they should work on the hot corner positions @ 1B & 3B.

[Factzzz]

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I personally dont see a problem with any of these errors. I like that they are in the game and that they happen. For me it makes the game so much better and realistic. I really like the fact that you have to pay attention, make a good approach on the ball, shift you defense and even with everything right where it is supposed to be the baseball gods just say "Nope not this time"


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https://youtu.be/TBsK_H5VlOA

Find a video of an outfielder just straight up letting a ball bounce off their glove when they're already underneath the ball.

Once i can understand but not frequently, definitely not once a game, online or not.

[rjackson]

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Find a video of an outfielder just straight up letting a ball bounce off their glove when they're already underneath the ball.

Once i can understand but not frequently, definitely not once a game, online or not.

Is a photo good enough? Only took a sec.

Spoiler

Not quite camped under it but still an easy catch when he is in position:

http://m.mlb.com/video/v34603793/baloak-cespedes-recovers-after-dropping-the-ball

Okay, camped under it:

http://fat.gfycat.com/UnsteadyImpartialHarvestmouse.mp4

Easy one but Werth has poor OF ratings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mr1irRhO6s

Check out #1, if that was in the game y'all be mad bro!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QISzRM7EkWY

And a pretty famous one that was an easy catch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbIHRGUesZQ

Easy but no

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/570BE83A091202130838184206336_3c5d85bf8fa.2.1.4166307453234290850.mp4?versionId=Ys41nvcY8wzLAuSkBaeuuBIkfISVGhJc

This was in the webbing and dropped - he was in AAA the next day but back and doing well enough

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CHWO-WMUcAAH6a2.mp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvHbqqrWlQY

All this proves is that it does happen but I cannot dispute that it might appear to be too often due to a lack of animations. Things that do happen commonly out there that could use anis: sun in eyes, lost view of the ball, slipped, who called for it and fall between. Any more come to mind? I use Nomo's error sliders for accuracy on errors by the way.