Official 2016 uniform errors and omissions

[AJGinHBG]

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I know it's just a AA team, but the Harrisburg Senators away jerseys are not even remotely close to what they actually wear. The ones they have in the game haven't been worn in decades.

[SilverBullet1929]

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This has probably been brought up before but I don't think I've ever read it here.... Some have asked for all throwbacks to be gone to allow room for more alternates if they're gonna insist on ten uniform slots per team but some have said they wanna keep the throwbacks.

But wouldn't a smart compromise be to remove one of the two throwbacks and use that for two more alternates?

Tough cuts will have to be made on which throwbacks to cut but I think that's a smarter cut than having to cut currently worn alternates that people clearly are asking for.

I just think having four total alternates is too much when some teams have five, six, and even seven current uniforms to choose from.

And if someone wants to tell me this can't be done "because of the style guide" then there's even more of serious problem with this style guide garbage than we thought.

[dran1984]

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Add the Dodgers to the list of teams of now wearing the matte helmets.

[valex0607]

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miguel cabrera has the wrong body type.

[Sayheykid01]

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Add the Dodgers to the list of teams of now wearing the matte helmets.

Has the show ever patched corrections to uniforms? I know they have to follow the style guide, but I wonder if they could change the team's helmets. It's such a small detail, but I'd love if they could change the Rockies/Dodgers (probably missing more) to the matte helmet.

[dran1984]

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Has the show ever patched corrections to uniforms? I know they have to follow the style guide, but I wonder if they could change the team's helmets. It's such a small detail, but I'd love if they could change the Rockies/Dodgers (probably missing more) to the matte helmet.

The only time they did was last year. When the game was released they had the Brewers home alt with the lettering from the throwback alt as well as the helmets and socks. And they also patched in a new bp hat for the braves as well last year. It would be awesome of they could patch the matte helmets in, but at this point they have too many other issues that need patched first.

[ShowTyme15]

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The Dodgers new Matte helmets have a 3D logo.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/15187003/uni-watch-la-dodgers-unveil-3-d-look-batting-helmet?ex_cid=espnfb

I have a feeling most if not all teams will go to the matte look.

[SilverBullet1929]

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They once patched the Braves warmup caps when the logo was changed from that screaming Indian to the lowercase a ...outside of slightly major and legal things like that, they don't patch much as far as uniforms.

[SilverBullet1929]

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So I think it's fair to complain about uniform coloring being way off. Don't tell me this is a style guide or a lighting issue because you gotta find a way to get the colors correct and there's no way the style guide has the Padres Brown jersey as olive green.... Especially when they got their throwback browns correct why would they get the new browns wrong?
So there's the olive green Padres brown alternate, the gray Pirates alternate, the shockingly baby blue Brewers alternate warmups. Any others I'm leaving out?

[dran1984]

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They once patched the Braves warmup caps when the logo was changed from that screaming Indian to the lowercase a ...outside of slightly major and legal things like that, they don't patch much as far as uniforms.

That really wasn't a legal issue but I was surprised when they did that. It does raise the question, did the Braves make the change in the style guide immediately? Or did SCEA make the change on their own? We obviously have no way of knowing but I think it's an interesting question.

[BlacknBlue]

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That really wasn't a legal issue but I was surprised when they did that. It does raise the question, did the Braves make the change in the style guide immediately? Or did SCEA make the change on their own? We obviously have no way of knowing but I think it's an interesting question.

The MLB and the Braves asked for that not to be used after a leak occurred resulting to much backlash over the logo.




Not everything has to do with the style guide, folks. Things like helmet texture and most throwbacks are not even in the style guide.

A lot of these uniform errors occur because you have art designers and programers that don't know baseball and go off of poor pictures. When the developers come on here and interact with this community, they also are not uniform aficionados. They likely do not even see the style guide, themselves, on a regular basis.

So, while they are "legally" bound to represent what is in a style guide, they aren't likely to face consequences unless they upset a team or the league by misrepresenting what is to actually be in a licensed MLB product.

I am sure some teams send the design team at SCEA samples so that they can model things appropriately, but often the Style guide is wrong, outdated, or doesn't provide a clear enough example of what is actually being worn on the field. Teams are also not required to live up to what is in the style guide and can deviate from what is sent out, prior to the start of the season, so long as it is within league rules.

As for MLB throwbacks, they are almost never in the style guide unless they under the circumstances of being worn regularly; examples- like the Brewers, Pirates, and Mets (to name a few in recent times). One-off throwback uniforms (Negro League throwbacks, Cubs 100th anniversary uniforms) wouldn't be in the Style Guide because they are usually not made by the brand that has the official league contract, Majestic. Teams are allowed to go outside of MLB licensed contract with Majestic for these uniforms and they often deviate from even what was historically worn. As long as all trademarks are appeased with logos and rights are not violated the MLB allows it to be worn on the field.

So, in cases regarding MLB The Show and the uniforms featured within it; Your best bet is to keep this thread updated, with detailed pictures and documentation, and make sure the information is passed along to the developers that can do the most with it. They will most likely do what they can, as long as they can verify what they are seeing is authentic and correct (sometimes that involves reaching out to a team for feedback).

However, a good portion of what we have to deal with as consumers with this product and the limitations of having all current uniforms in the game are do to limitations within the game itself and the slot system. Until a new method is implemented and a workaround for the large data sizes a uniform consumes within the game, we are likely stuck dealing with things as they stand now.

[SilverBullet1929]

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That really wasn't a legal issue but I was surprised when they did that. It does raise the question, did the Braves make the change in the style guide immediately? Or did SCEA make the change on their own? We obviously have no way of knowing but I think it's an interesting question.

I meant legal issue in the sense that it was something they absolutely had to do for some reason. They've never once patched anything with uniforms until a change is made directly concerning one of these native American, Indian, redskin etc controversial topics? That definitely sounds like a patch they were forced to do as opposed to them just one day randomly deciding to update one teams warm up cap. I absolutely believe there's some story like that behind that one.

[SilverBullet1929]

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Well said Blacknblue. I'll never understand how hard it is for them to just check the uniforms for accuracy with someone who actually knows them and gives a damn. It's mind boggling how many uniform errors (outside of style guide issues) get approved year after year... issues that could easily be corrected by just using your eyeballs.

[Pelli16]

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[QUOTE=TripleCrown9;2048088393]Every team except San Diego aren't wearing camo jerseys this year.

This isn't true, the Pirates are wearing their Camo uniforms this year. They actually wore them today. Also, their P logo on the Pirates Black alternates should much larger.

[cherman24]

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So...I'm not going to go into details or risk someone's job, but long story short...I got a screenshot of the Pirates style guide and my argument with them in the video game was the Sunday throwback fonts (this year and previous years) . I explained why I was curious. The style guide shows the old throwback font and not incorrect font like the game uses. In this case, it's not a style guide issue. I can't say that this is the case for every team, but I can say it's not mlb for Pittsburgh. If I was was on my toes, I'd have asked for Seattle...