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  • nyqu1st
    Rookie
    • Apr 2015
    • 153

    #136
    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by redsox4evur
    And he is on a 3+ year contract that is very cheap.
    I made note of that prior to your post, but thanks.
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    • AC
      Win the East
      • Sep 2010
      • 14951

      #137
      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by redsox4evur
      Correa, Springer +
      I sincerely hope you mean Correa OR Springer+. Jesus

      Originally posted by MrSerendipity
      I mean I'm not going to call you crazy. But pitchers value higher than other positions. We're talking about a Top 3 pitcher in the MLB. Some would consider him the best. That requires a lot of value.
      Yeah I give up hope on the pitching myth being dispelled. If there was ONE good thing going to come out of Kansas winning, it should've been that people would realize you can have Jeremy Guthrie as an integral part of your rotation and still win a world series.

      Pitchers are worth less than hitters. They explode frequently and are more plentiful. The Astros would be insane to deal either, much less both Correa and Springer, for Sale. And literally no one would consider Sale the best. He's not even alone in a tier when you discount his value for the insane injury risk. His contract isn't even a huge bonus when you're talking about dealing him for 6 years of Carlos Correa.
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      • MrSerendipity
        MVP
        • Jun 2013
        • 1397

        #138
        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by nyqu1st
        I wouldn't call him the best.. still a little off from Kersh but he's in the argument for top 5. MadBum, Jose, Keuchel, Arrieta, Darvish, Tanaka, Gray, Gerrit Cole, Price, Greinke, Cueto, Felix, Lester etc.

        But you're asking for a 21 year old generational player who is still years away from his prime. He didn't even play a full season and was a top-2 shortstop in the league. You're also asking to package one of the best young stars in the league along with Springer who has fairly good trade value considering he was a top prospect and still could turn out to be a good power hitting OF if he ever finds his mark. Injuries have not helped his cause. Then.. you want another one of the Astro's young pieces (Reed, Bregman, Cameron?). I don't see how it makes sense.
        Eff. I should clarify, I misread and thought the original reply meant Correa or Springer. Not both. That's my bad.

        Correa or Springer + 2-3 good prospects. I don't see you getting it done in with just three players is what I meant. Sorry, new parent this past week, not sleeping much.
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        • MrSerendipity
          MVP
          • Jun 2013
          • 1397

          #139
          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by AC
          I sincerely hope you mean Correa OR Springer+. Jesus



          Yeah I give up hope on the pitching myth being dispelled. If there was ONE good thing going to come out of Kansas winning, it should've been that people would realize you can have Jeremy Guthrie as an integral part of your rotation and still win a world series.

          Pitchers are worth less than hitters. They explode frequently and are more plentiful. The Astros would be insane to deal either, much less both Correa and Springer, for Sale. And literally no one would consider Sale the best. He's not even alone in a tier when you discount his value for the insane injury risk. His contract isn't even a huge bonus when you're talking about dealing him for 6 years of Carlos Correa.
          I just think pitching is invaluable. The same thing you talk about in regards to injury risk is just as prevalent and important in regards to position players. A torn meniscus and a guy never runs quite as fast. A dislocated shoulder and a guy never swings as hard as he did before. Injury is injury. Is their risk? Yes. But Sale is a Top 5 (at the least) pitcher right now. You're not getting him for cheap. That said, I did clear up my post because my eyes must have been glazing over when I was reading through the conversation earlier. Correa, Springer+ is too much. Correa+ or Springer+ however is what it would take in my opinion.
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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
            • 14951

            #140
            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by MrSerendipity
            I just think pitching is invaluable. The same thing you talk about in regards to injury risk is just as prevalent and important in regards to position players. A torn meniscus and a guy never runs quite as fast. A dislocated shoulder and a guy never swings as hard as he did before. Injury is injury. Is their risk? Yes. But Sale is a Top 5 (at the least) pitcher right now. You're not getting him for cheap. That said, I did clear up my post because my eyes must have been glazing over when I was reading through the conversation earlier. Correa, Springer+ is too much. Correa+ or Springer+ however is what it would take in my opinion.
            I promise you that pitchers miss more time than hitters do and their effects are worse than hitters' injuries. Elbow and shoulder injuries are an epidemic in the MLB right now. I really wasn't aware that this wasn't consensus opinion.

            I would admittedly do Springer and a little something. But I'd hate myself for it. I think Reed and some other good stuff is closer to Sale's value. But I'm probably higher on Reed than most in here too.

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            • redsox4evur
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2013
              • 18169

              #141
              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

              It was OR not and. I should've used a slash instead of a comma.
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              • Shamhat1915
                Rookie
                • Jul 2012
                • 476

                #142
                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by nyqu1st
                Realistically, Castellanos will not be dealt anytime soon. His deal is team friendly and the Tigers think he still has potential. A lot of ML 3B tend to blossom later in their careers (moustakas, josh d, frazier, etc.) The idea you want to swap player for player of the same position does not occur often and to get an upgrade over Nick you'd have to add a few pieces into the trade which would create holes elsewhere considering the Tiger's farm is barren.
                I know it's not realistic, but it's also not too farfetched. There was talk last year of then acquiring a new third baseman, and even some talks during the offseason before he started to turn it around. And he has looked a lot better in Spring Training this year. Its also just more of a personal preference. I just struggle with him more than I would like. It would take a lot, and our system is pretty barren at the moment. I was just curious what could seem plausible.
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                • BlueJays09
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 2553

                  #143
                  Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Mysterious
                  Running with the Blue Jays....



                  Would like to get rid of Dickey... hate him as a player in real life... don't want to play with him in game... another pitcher of equal or better talent with prospects maybe going as leverage. And or upgrade LF...



                  Dunno, anyone traded him yet?


                  I can't seem to use him in the game either. One game he pitches a 5 hit CG shutout, then the next 3 starts he allows 7 ER and like 3 homers per game. He's currently sitting 3-2 with a 4.29 ERA on my team and steadily declines attribute wise throughout the season.

                  If he continues to struggle I think I would just release him or send him to AAA. Doubt you will get much for him at this point.

                  You could move him to a team looking for bottom of the rotation starter and take back a bench player or someone who is an older minor league C player and maybe a bad contract back from that team as well.

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                  • Yshank946
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 31

                    #144
                    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                    I just started a franchise with Houston. And for what I could see I could send Dallas keuchel and wandy Rodriguez for Noah syndergard. What you guys think?


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                    • Yshank946
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 31

                      #145
                      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Wow just landed Thor and Matz for KEUCHEL , Rodrigues and Fiers. Thor went from 89 in the mets to 92 in Houseton


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                      • Mysterious
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 129

                        #146
                        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by BlueJays09
                        I can't seem to use him in the game either. One game he pitches a 5 hit CG shutout, then the next 3 starts he allows 7 ER and like 3 homers per game. He's currently sitting 3-2 with a 4.29 ERA on my team and steadily declines attribute wise throughout the season.

                        If he continues to struggle I think I would just release him or send him to AAA. Doubt you will get much for him at this point.

                        You could move him to a team looking for bottom of the rotation starter and take back a bench player or someone who is an older minor league C player and maybe a bad contract back from that team as well.


                        Sadly that sounds about how he pitches in real life LOL

                        I think I am going to move him before the season starts if possible for whatever I can get ... We'll see

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                        • TitoFranc
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 114

                          #147
                          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Is a tolleson+Gallo for Bauer far off?

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                          • redsox4evur
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 18169

                            #148
                            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by TitoFranc
                            Is a tolleson+Gallo for Bauer far off?
                            I take it your the Indians by your username. But you're the sun and that trade offer is Pluto. If you want Gallo you are moving a guy like Carrasco or Kluber. Not a #6 starter.
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                            • TitoFranc
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 114

                              #149
                              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by redsox4evur
                              I take it your the Indians by your username. But you're the sun and that trade offer is Pluto. If you want Gallo you are moving a guy like Carrasco or Kluber. Not a #6 starter.
                              Probably the funniest think I think I've seen in a while is that Gallo can bring back Kluber or Carrasco. He might bring back their left sock. In almost 400 minor league games he's been around a .260 hitter and he'll be 23 this year. Below average contact hitters with high power return #4-5-6 starters not some of the best pitchers in baseball types.

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                              • redsox4evur
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 18169

                                #150
                                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by TitoFranc
                                Probably the funniest think I think I've seen in a while is that Gallo can bring back Kluber or Carrasco. He might bring back their left sock. In almost 400 minor league games he's been around a .260 hitter and he'll be 23 this year. Below average contact hitters with high power return #4-5-6 starters not some of the best pitchers in baseball types.
                                I meant as a headliner in a package of prospects.
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